One woman fell from a ditch, and the other fell from grace,
all in the pursuit of the perfect selfie, David.
This happened in China, and it is going viral across the globe.
Yeah, it's going viral in China.
People are shaming this Jiangsu woman
for taking a smiling selfie
with the other woman who got knocked unconscious.
This is going lightly viral in the West, Andrew,
but basically because it gives people an opportunity
to say that China's everything that I thought it was.
Have you ever seen them at a buffet with the crab legs?
They're selfish. They're greedy.
They don't value human life.
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First of all, I do believe the woman
who is unconscious in this photo is okay.
She is getting medical help.
She just fell from a ditch
while trying to take a selfie herself,
so then other people are taking a selfie of her
as she's lying there about to get help.
And then while they're taking a photo with her,
they're taking photos of other people taking selfies.
Anyways, guys, I mean, is this just modern culture
or is it particularly Chinese culture?
People want to blame it on China,
but I don't know, maybe it's just human culture.
Andrew, people were debating.
Some people were like, man,
they're just like us, falling victim to clout.
The whole world is doomed with social media,
whether it's America or China.
And somebody said, no, they are not like us moral Americans.
They're clearly evil people
who have underdeveloped sense of empathy.
They lack the human angle.
They are just robot working machines.
Other people said, yeah, this does make them seem like us,
but don't humanize them.
We need to stay vigilant in case we go to war against them.
Oh, man.
Other people were like, yeah, yeah, yeah.
Do not think us Taiwanese or overseas Chinese are like this.
Only the mainland, okay?
And other people are like, hey, guys,
we are not all like this.
This is just a few bad apples.
It is your xenophobia and hatred for China
that makes you want to say we're all this way.
So Andrew, let's get into the comments section
and of course our own takeaways.
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Andrew, somebody said, so the person fell
because they were taking a video and not paying attention.
Then another person videos another person taking a selfie
and then somebody else writes a bunch of articles about it.
Everybody involved seems obsessed with just using their phone
instead of using nature through their own eyes
and just trying to get as much clout
as they can out of this situation.
Yo, this reminds me of that one depressing animation
made by this guy named Steve Cutts
where it's the little baby that's walking around the city
and then everybody's on their phone
and then this girl's about to jump from the building
and then everybody just films her
and that was not made about China.
That was made actually about modern Western society.
So obviously, guys, I think that this
is something that could happen anywhere.
I've seen people take some selfies
with knocked out people before.
Maybe she knew that woman was still alive
and was about to get help.
Not saying she should have done it, but I'm just saying.
And the truth is, Andrew, it depends, right?
If you're in a really nice, idyllic suburb of America,
I'm sure this is not gonna happen.
People are gonna rush over.
But other people said,
yeah, this is just what happens in any big city.
Where does she think she is, New York City?
This would just be another slow news day in Chicago.
And someone said, yeah, except the big difference is
whoever they're taking a selfie with
is probably overdosed on drugs
or maybe got shot the night before
and it's just a dead body laying there.
So somebody was saying,
oh, why are we trying to fault China for it
when we got to look at our own cities
and people are ODing every day,
people are shooting each other,
which is true, Andrew.
Those things do not happen in China
because they have really strict gun and drug laws.
Yeah, I mean, I think that there are horrific things
that happen in America all the time.
The murder rate is higher than China.
The sexual assault rate is higher than China.
The gun violence rate is higher than China.
But because people,
because I think Americans would like to think
that they wouldn't do this.
Yeah, or they would show more like empathy, right?
It's true.
This type of incident,
specifically the way it happened this way,
is more likely to happen in China than in America.
Not saying that it wouldn't happen in America.
Somebody said, why should some clumsy oaf's ineptitude
ruin my great day at the park?
I mean, is that kind of true, Andrew?
Like, is that big city thinking,
like, wait, why would that lady,
like, that lady can't impact the situation.
There was already somebody descending
to help the person who got knocked out.
So maybe she was just smiling.
She goes, yeah, I got to see something interesting today.
Yeah, yo, I see, dude.
I don't know.
I mean, I'm just saying it was a bad moment caught on tape.
I don't think she should be doing that.
Obviously, the first and foremost,
you need to make sure that person is getting help.
But maybe that lady knew that she was getting help.
She's like, yeah, look, there's a man that is going to help her.
They said that the medics are on their way.
So why can't I just take a photo in the meantime?
I am actually smiling because I am happy
this man is descending down to the ditch to help.
Everybody misinterpreted my smile.
I think people are ODing on the idea that it's Chinese, though,
and blaming it on Chinese culture.
I think this could happen anywhere on Earth.
But, of course, you know, she's smiling.
She's a Chinese lady. It's going viral.
And Chinese do have a little bit of a reputation.
I'm not going to lie.
I mean, I remember there was an old lady
who got punched in Chinatown, Andrew,
and, like, nobody initially moves.
Nobody initially rushes to, like, you know,
everybody's, like, frozen.
That is a kind of a Chinese characteristic,
depending on what class you come from.
Somebody said the Chinese are completely devoid
of sense of danger and self-preservation.
You cannot be a communist
and broadly care about individuals.
The two simply cannot coexist.
Do you think it's true, Andrew,
that this has anything to do with the stereotype,
especially of, you know, to be honest,
a certain class, income class or education class of Chinese,
that they're very NPC-like?
Yeah, I mean, that's what people say.
I know what they mean.
There's sometimes it feels like that.
I feel like that Chinese people are not bad people.
I don't think inherently.
I don't think a lot of groups are,
but I definitely think they...
They're very within themselves, too,
almost an extreme level.
They withhold a lot of emotion and stuff.
Yeah. Somebody said, just welcome to the real world, man.
The U.S. is no different.
If you go to certain neighborhoods,
what's all the bellyaching about?
You can come to my city and see people laughing
at homeless people that may or may not be dead
in the subway platform or down on the tracks all the time.
You know what's actually, I think,
one of the reasons why this is going viral?
It's because it's a woman taking a selfie of another woman
where usually if it's like a dude on a dude,
you wouldn't think that much of it
because you'd be like, oh, that guy is like dead.
He's a crackhead. He's homeless, whatever.
You're saying that that's just what dudes do.
Yeah, and I think that the fact
that the two people are women,
then it's more striking because they're like, what?
Women are supposed to be more compassionate
and more empathetic.
What is this woman doing?
Doesn't she have kids? She's probably a mother.
There's something that seems a little odd
or I guess like Stepford Wife weird about the scene,
to be fair, when you play it back.
It looks a little detached.
Oh, this one comment went in on Chinese society.
This is a tweet.
Chinese society is selfish and compassionless.
This is a society without religion,
detached from Chinese traditional culture.
They are used to being abused.
The only permitted thoughts are she's thoughts.
They only know how to gather wealth
and indulge themselves for however long.
Yeah, I'm not going to lie.
This is not the first time that I've heard this before,
and I'm not saying there's like 0% truth to this,
but it's definitely not nearly as true
as this person is saying, to be honest.
Somebody said, well, what's the alternative for everybody, huh?
Are we supposed to just feel sad all day, every day?
These are really big countries, America and China.
You see really rich things every day,
and you see really poor things every day.
Seriously, I mean, listen guys, what are we supposed to do?
Just feel bad every time we see something bad?
Is it true, Andrew?
Like in these big cities and big countries,
it kind of conditions you to go, look, listen,
what do you want me to do?
Like that's something bad that happened to somebody else.
I'm moving on with my day.
I mean, I think that in New York City,
what I notice is that if something happens,
people still check on the person real quick.
I think New York and the big city,
what it should be is you try to get help,
but you do it quickly.
You know, that's generally like you do what you can,
but quickly, and so if someone,
I've seen people get hit by the bike,
hit by a car while on a bike multiple times,
and I'm very far away from it,
but part of me still is like, yo, are you okay?
You good?
And they're like getting up, and they're like, I'm good.
And then, you know, I'm just like, oh, well, you know,
not that I saved that person's life,
but at least I did something to check up on him.
But yeah, but it's true.
It even matters what neighborhood in New York you're in, right?
In a BX in Chelsea, it's going to be different.
That's how it should be, is what I'm saying.
Somebody said, have lived there for a few years.
There is not a lot of empathy for others,
unless they are family.
This is somebody referring to somebody who's living in China.
I do think that there were some policies in place
where, you know, you had to pay for the medical expenses
of somebody that you hurt.
So sometimes, someone would try to frame you
and get hurt by you, even though you didn't do anything.
Yeah, they didn't have good Samaritan protection laws,
I believe, until, I want to say, four or five years ago.
Yeah, yeah, it's tough.
I mean, it runs by different rules,
but I don't think that this woman represents China,
is what I'm saying.
This woman does not represent all Chinese people.
Or she might represent the most stereotypical behavior
from an era of China that is, you know,
they're trying to move beyond, to be honest.
Somebody said, throughout their long history,
Chinese have been subservient sheep,
not as socially developed, intellectually,
or socially as Caucasians.
Man.
And then, out of all Asiatic countries,
the people in China are the rudest by far.
This does not surprise me at all.
They are not known for their affection or sympathy.
Have you seen them when they go to a buffet
when a tour group brings a busload of them?
Sit back and watch the show.
You're not getting any crab legs for a while.
Damn.
And then, of course, somebody tried to come in and say,
hey, listen, have you ever been to an ice cream shop
when a little league team gets out?
Or when a group of cyclists go into a coffee shop?
You're going to be fighting for a spot, too.
I mean, listen, I would say that it's,
there's both truth to those crazy incidents
when the tour group is, like, destroying a buffet,
and also, like, that's a very specific segment
of the population, too.
Do you think it is true, though, Andrew,
that maybe, possibly, some of these anecdotal behaviors
are more possible from someone from mainland China,
statistically, that's 60, 70, 80 years old,
than, like, somebody 60, 70, 80 from America,
Japan, or Taiwan, or something like that?
Yeah, I mean, I think they grow up in different cultures,
and they grow up with different training
and different kind of social awareness
and things like that, and...
They went through the Cultural Revolution.
Let's be honest, I think that that was a pretty huge incident.
Yeah, what I mean by it's true is, like,
I don't want to say that this woman represents
a large part of Chinese people,
but it's true that stuff like this does happen in China.
Now, does it happen in other countries, too?
I think so.
And do possibly worse things happen in America?
So, it depends on what you're rating it on, man.
Are you rating it a homicide rate, gun violence rate,
sexual assault rate?
Those are all lower in China, but then in America,
we also have, you know, we also have a lot of mass killings
and stuff like that.
So, what's worse, guys?
It's so difficult to compare because it's like,
yes, do I think an older lady
who almost looks like Meryl Streep is going to smile
and take this photo in 2023?
Unlikely, or less likely,
but then there's a whole bunch of other stuff
that is way more likely that's way worse.
You know what's this weird thing about America?
It's like America would rather have somebody
who like shot three people and is like,
yeah, well, he was just angry at his girlfriend.
So, obviously, he should go to prison for a long time,
but I kind of understand where he's coming from.
She did cheat on him or something.
Yeah, and then they're just like,
oh, but he shot three people.
And then in China, it's like this woman takes
a insensitive, detached, emotionally detached selfie
of a girl who's like knocked out
and everybody's like, oh my gosh, China's evil.
They got no souls.
That's just how it is in 2023, guys.
I'd rather have somebody have a soul and emotion
and do something horrendous than people not have a soul
and just do something extremely insensitive.
Yeah, and I do think that,
I don't know if Chinese people want to address,
like a lot of the Western world,
they do care about facts, but they care almost more
if as much if not more about the feeling.
Yeah.
Whereas Chinese are more about the facts.
Like I literally think this lady would be like,
yeah, there was somebody already going to help her.
I'm just glad I caught something interesting today.
No, she's probably like for my followers
or like my Weibo or.
Listen, I already did the math.
I did not hurt her.
It is not my fault.
I cannot help her.
Somebody is going to help her and she is still alive.
So I've got to take this picture.
The mess, the only messed up situation I can imagine.
She's like, yeah, that was my greatest rival
for my age group of followers, influencers on Douyin.
That is one less KOL.
I will have to worry about for my contents.
Anyway, Andrew, let's get into the takeaways.
Of course, everybody in China would not act like this,
but I will say this, you know, some of the older generation,
they saw a lot of crazy things.
Cultural Revolution, economics, like I said,
it is lagging behind Taiwan, Hong Kong, South Korea,
Singapore, Japan in terms of economic development.
I do think there's some correlation.
Anytime there's a large culture like mainland China
that's lagging behind in economic development.
They're almost having some behaviors that seem like
from a bygone era.
Sometimes literally you see it.
Yeah.
But again, remember guys, China is like three and a half
times larger than America population wise.
So, of course, you're going to get a bunch of goofy
and crazy stories from China, which if America was three
times the size, there'd be even more crazier stuff.
Oh my goodness.
This country would be would like destroy itself.
It was three times the size.
So I'm just saying what is your perspective?
You let me know in the comments down below.
How wrong is this woman?
Is there any context to why she took this photo?
Maybe she knew the woman was getting help.
Maybe she didn't.
Maybe she's maybe she's off the rails this woman mentally,
but maybe also she's just logical, you know, let us know
what you guys think in the comment section below.
Keep it civil.
Like we said, man viral in the East viral in the West,
but for completely different reasons until next time
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