Channeled Messages from Deep Space _ Tracy Farquhar _ UFO HUB Webcast #10

Hey everyone, welcome to Geo4hub webcast. Today's guest is going to be Tracy Farquhar. She's a psychic medium and a channel and she co-authored a book called Channeled Messages from Deep Space with Mike Dooley and I'm going to talk to her about it today. As always, I'm going to let the guests get into their background information so let's get to it. Hi Tracy, thanks for being on. How are you? I'm great, thanks for having me. Well, it took a long time for me to finally connect with you but thanks to Mike, finally he sent me the book and I got done with whatever I needed to do so I wanted to get in touch with you and talk about the book you two have written together. So if you could maybe tell me a little bit first about yourself and then I'd like to get into the book with you. Sure, so I have a business as a professional psychic medium. I've been doing that full-time for about seven or eight years. I've been doing it in general for about 15 years. It's not something I ever really had in mind to do with my life. In fact, I can't say that I had psychic experiences all my life but I was always extremely sensitive. So, you know, I was told that I was too sensitive most of my life as though it were a fault. And then I, just out of curiosity, I took a course in psychic development. I grew up in a family that was very open to all of these things and had sisters who were pretty psychic as well. So I had an interest in it but really no clue that I had any abilities until I took this course and started practicing some things and started to realize that my sensitivities were actually a gift and that I could connect with energy. So I started to do readings for people and I still worked full-time in a regular nine-to-five job. But after a while the universe kind of shifted my life in such a way that this became my full-time work. I was doing psychic readings for people which is connecting with their energy to give them some life guidance. Doing mediumship readings which are connecting with spirit, usually for people who want to speak with loved ones who have passed. And so I was doing that for quite a while and had an experience of channeling which I had never expected, never intended. But it was just a series of events. My sister was visiting me. We had a series of events where we started to feel like something wanted to contact us. My sister used to use the Ouija board all the time, you know, to connect the spirit. So we did that and it immediately started to spell F-R-A-N-K, Frank. Neither of us knew anybody named Frank. But it turned out that it was a collective of beings that wanted to connect through me with automatic writing which I had never done before. But they gave me instructions, I tried it, and I started getting all kinds of really uplifting, amazing information from this collective who call themselves Frank. At that time it was mostly personal to me but I also felt that there was also universal messages of hope and love that were important. And I asked them at that time if they wanted to write a book and they said no, not at that time. So I actually put it aside for a couple of years, didn't channel for a couple of years after that. But then I started to feel that they were trying to get in touch with me again. I started channeling again through the automatic writing and then they did start to write a book. And so my first book was Frank Talk, this is what it looks like. And this was a self-published book that was just all whatever I got from them. So they talk about their lives, their planet, and they impart a lot of wisdom and give a lot of advice for us in what we're going through. In the meantime I had become a certified possibilities trainer with Mike Dooley and I knew that he was interested in channeling so I made sure he got a copy of my book. He enjoyed it a lot and we started to talk and we wound up doing a webinar together. He would send me some questions and I would channel the answers and then we did an online live webinar together with the channeling. And from there then we decided to write the next book which was originally called From Deep Space with Love and then when it was published in paperback, Hay House changed the title so it was a clearer sense of it being channeled to channel messages from deep space. So that's how that all came about. Well that worked out great. So was there any particular process in which we two got together to work on it? Would you write a little bit or at least was it transcribed I should say then based on the questions he had or how did that work? Yeah so what happened was when you know when he got so excited about the first book he said do you think that Frank would answer some questions for me and I said sure. So he sent me I remember it was 24 questions and you know from Mike Dooley these are not going to be simple questions. These were very deep questions and I remember sitting up when I would do the writing it would normally be late at night and I feel like it was because my waking consciousness was kind of sleepy and out of the way. So I wasn't really listening to my mind saying what are you crazy? You think you're channeling aliens? What's wrong with you? You know so the mind was kind of out of the way and I could connect with the higher consciousness a little better. So I did half of those questions late into the night and then the next half the next morning and I sent the answers to him and I remember getting this email back from him with this huge like 96 point font that said oh my god. So he you know we kind of knew that this was going to be a fun adventure with him asking these deep questions and seeing what Frank had to say. So we did that for a while and then that was the way the webinar went as well. So we were doing it live for an audience and then we decided that it worked so well that that's the way we would do the book as well. I usually find you know I'm very glad that people do that because then they gather their work their thoughts together in one cohesive way and so that way then it can be kind of dissected and consumed in this organized way instead of kind of telling a story and being all over the place. So I always personally appreciated books and now it kind of translates nowadays into video you know to have to watch something that's nice and cohesive that way. So I'm glad you guys did that meaning writing a book together. So would you like to share some of the some of the general information that Frank started out to channel first kind of was there kind of a general message of why specifically reaching out to you? Well first you know when I first started getting things from them first I wasn't sure how that was going to work. I didn't know how automatic writing worked. I had been doing psychic and mediumship work but I had never tried that so I didn't know if my hand was just going to be writing independent of me but what it turned out to be was more like I would get a word just kind of come into my consciousness and write it down so it was like taking dictation you know and I had been a secretary for many years so I could do that it was easy. But it was a much different process from having a thought and then turning it into a sentence or a paragraph. It was a word and then a word and I wasn't even sure what the meaning was until I would read it back. So in the beginning I just wanted to know who they were where they were from and what was this all about. Then they were you know they let me know right away that they were eight beings. It was a group you know the name Frank is just the name that they they used for me to call them. I'm sure that's not what they're really called. That they're from a planet in the universe in this dimension and that they have discovered a way to project their consciousness to connect in a sort of telepathic way so that they didn't need to travel you know it was an energetic consciousness connection and that they wanted to help us because they had a lot of empathy for what we're going through since they had gone through some similar things on their planet and that they had turned it around. They were on the brink of disaster and they turned it around through you know raising their consciousness, connecting in a conscious way, becoming more compassionate, taking better care of each other and their world. And so they can see our potential and they you know everything that they have said always feels very loving. They always say how much they admire us and how much beauty we have in our world and so they see what we can become you know and they see what we are as well and how we can expand that. So it's always felt extremely positive and compassionate and everything that they've always said resonates with me deeply. You know I don't think I would be able to channel it if it didn't. So for example was there something that they just picked up the energy of humans, particularly of you, that they then needed to convey something to you or what was the reasoning for them reaching out? Well what they have said is that they have made it a practice for themselves to seek out other beings, planets that need help. So it wasn't just us. They've helped others out or they have tried to. They've also talked about having abandoned some of those attempts to help. But when they found us and they just became very enamored of us and the beauty of our planet and you know I think that they can again resonate with a lot of what we're going through. I think because they're a higher consciousness they can sense those who are particularly sensitive and would be able to pick up their energy you know. So I don't think I'm the only one that they're working with. Oh I see you mean currently? Yes. Oh I see. But I did have an experience probably a couple of years before they appeared which at the time I thought may have just been a dream but I don't think now that it was where I was in my bed at night and was woken up by a voice and got this amazing bright light coming in through my window and I had this sensation of being scanned. It's very difficult to describe but it was like a pulse of energy that ran across me physically like three times. It was a really strong sensation. It wasn't painful and I wasn't scared but it was very unusual. And this bright light coming through the window I just you know when Frank then appeared and when I started channeling them I started to think hmm I wonder if that was them you know checking me out to see if I was in the right energetic space to receive them. And I'm kind of feeling like it was. So I think that again because they're highly evolved consciously that they can sense you know those who are going to resonate with message who are going to be open to it and be willing to convey it. And again I don't think it's just me. So what was one of the first profound messages that they basically told you about? Well I think it was just them telling their story which was that you know their planet was on the brink of disaster and things were falling apart and a lot of it was due to greed and mismanagement of resources and so many things that were so similar to us. And even though they described themselves as being very different in a lot of ways and the planet being very different the circumstances and situations that they were in were similar. And that there was a core group that saw that in order for them to survive they were going to have to make drastic changes in the way they treated each other and in their level of consciousness. They had to move into that realm of understanding and working with consciousness instead of just the material world. And once they started to do that they started to integrate science and spirituality you know that things everything changed. And it just feels so strongly that that's where we're heading as well. So that to me is the whole reason that they're here and the you know the way that they are encouraging us in that direction feels very profound and really almost essential for our survival as well. So how's their general look? Have they ever revealed to you how did it look? Or are we talking about let's say they're formed like you know I don't mean to I don't know how to say this that doesn't sound silly let's say they're looking like spiders but having a society like us. Do you know what I mean? Yeah they did avoid that for a while but then there was I had an incident where I was participating in a meditation on a retreat and it was a very very deep meditation. And in the meditative state I had a vision and they showed themselves to me very briefly. So I got a brief look at them. A couple days later after that happened I happened to be at a psychic fair where someone was displaying paintings that she had made intuitively. She was intuitive artist and one of the paintings was almost exactly what I had seen. And it actually is the cover of my first book. So they look similar to that. Oh I see okay. Not exactly right but and this the woman who painted this painting said that she felt like it had been channeled to her. So it was an amazing synchronicity. I mean I was floored when I stood in front of that painting and realized it was exactly what I had seen almost exactly that I had seen in that meditation. So do they solely simply reach out sort of in this metaphysical spiritual way where I believe if I'm not mistaken Mike was mentioning something that they don't have ships or the ability to actually travel this far out. Yeah I'm under the impression that they don't do that. Because they have discovered that they can telepathically communicate there's no need for them to physically travel. But they do say that other worlds other beings do travel and have been here and are continuing to come here. So they have verified that just not them. Would they have the ability to actually materialize enough to where they could kind of appear to us at least in apparition form or is it solely through kind of this psychic way? Yeah I haven't had that experience but I have been in audiences because I have done live channeling events with audiences where people have not seen like a full-bodied apparition or something but they have seen lights they've seen streaks of lights like orbs. So people have had some visual sense of them just not really like it's not like a hologram you know it's more like it's almost like spirit energy appears sometimes as as orbs or lights or mist or something like that. So but I haven't actually had that experience with them of seeing them. And so could you maybe please continue sharing some of the other information they've given if you don't mind? Sure so they talk a lot about you know all the changes that they had to make and are continuing to make and the resistance to those changes and you know how difficult it was for them to continue on in the midst of such opposition and resistance to change. And again it's something else that seems very resonant with what we're going through right now. It seems kind of a universal thing that beings just don't like change and they get caught in ways of doing things even when they're harmful they don't want to change them. But they persisted to the degree that you know they really created a whole new way of doing things. It doesn't mean that all the all their beings on their planet are still happy about it you know. But one of the things they changed was that they no longer have a monetary system. So they did at one time have some kind of monetary exchange. They don't call it money. I really you know I think it's a little complicated to understand. But they have more of a barter system now where it's more of an equal energy exchange. So releasing themselves from that need to accumulate wealth and material things completely changed everything. You know it freed people up to do the things that they love to do. It made people you know have different motivations for wanting to share their gifts and talents. You know it took away the desire to accumulate. And so people put their energy into more useful things, more helpful things, more compassionate things. They take care of each other better. And it's very difficult for us to imagine that you know a world without money. But they do see us heading in that direction. They don't ever predict the future for us. But they can have a sense of the potential for us. And they see that as one of the potentials, even though it's something that we have a hard time imagining. How would that work? But I think that was one of the most profound things that they did. But again it was more about understanding themselves as that spirit energy. You know they brought a sense of spirituality into their everyday life. And they operate from that place more now. And again I feel like this is one of the things that we're starting to shift towards. It's a very slow shift. But we are starting to be more aware of ourselves spiritually. And I think there's more of an interest in studying consciousness. And quantum physics is looking at us differently. And there is starting to be more disclosure around UFOs and other beings, a little bit more openness around that. So there is a shift happening. And I think that they've come right at the time where we need that motivation, that sense of seeing a light at the end of the tunnel. They actually kind of disappeared for a few months during 2020. And I wasn't sure if they were coming back. I sometimes do live channeling events online. And at the end of one event, I think it was right around the time when the pandemic was starting, at the end I'm kind of an observer as well as being the channel. But I heard them saying goodbye at the end and I felt them leave. And I knew they were gone. And I didn't have any contact with them for several months. And I thought maybe they were gone forever. I didn't know why. But then they did show up again. And again, I think it was a deliberate thing. It's almost like we had to go through what we were going through during this pandemic and whatever that's offering to us. And now they're coming back in a little bit of a different way. What I'm doing now with them is I have a Facebook group and I have people asking questions. And then I channel the answers to some of those questions. I haven't done a live session since they left last year, but I may get back into that at some point. Okay. So are they entirely planet bound or do they have some sort of vehicles at least while they're on their surface? Or what does the surface even look like if they've given that info to you? The information they've given me is that their planet is pretty harsh. They have double suns. They have two stars that are suns. So at certain times of their year, it's not possible for them to be on the surface because it's too intense. So they seem to have a lot of underground dwellings. But then there are other times in the year where they can come out for short periods of time and be on the surface. It does feel, and sometimes when they're talking about these things, I can see them in my mind too while they're speaking. So it does seem the surface is not very interesting. It's kind of barren, it's kind of desolate. But there are times where things grow. These things do grow. But their underground dwellings feel very communal. So they live in kind of groups, family groups or whatever. They seem to be much more, I don't know what other word to use other than communal. They assist with the raising of children and they work together in these dwellings underground. And they seem to have devised ways to grow their own food and develop different plant life that helps them to survive underground. They talk about mostly plants that they eat. I'm not sure if they ever mentioned any of the things that they eat, but mostly it seems to be plants that they turn into lots of different kinds of food like we do. But I think one of the reasons that they're so drawn to us, and they mention it a lot, is how beautiful our planet is. The huge diversity of life, they don't have that there. They don't have this huge diversity of plant life and animal life and they're just amazed by it. So it gives me a new appreciation for what we have here. So I guess it balances itself out by what everyone on their planet doing everything they can that's best suited to their skills and just offering it up and then everyone else doing the same thing. So they kind of make it work in that way. Am I understanding that correctly? Yeah, it seems to be that somehow there is some kind of checks and balances. So you provide a service or a product for someone and there's some kind of record kept that that person now needs to owe that back in some way. So whatever that person is good at, like you said, whatever their skills, their gifts, their talents are, that's what they provide. And then that helps them to then get what they need. So it's a barter system for the most part. I think it's a little more complicated than that, but I think they simplify some of these things so that I can understand them and communicate them. Sometimes I feel like our thinking and our words, our language is limited, so they kind of simplify things because it's still coming through my brain. And if my brain can't understand it, I'm not going to be able to say it. So sometimes I think it's more complicated and I feel that it's more complicated than what they're giving me. But this is the best way they can describe it. I was just wondering because, you know, by having a more of a detailed explanation, anyone watching could could potentially have their imaginations, you know, be spurred and maybe try to seek something like that. Because I know I'm sure you're familiar with, you know, the different communes that were started in the 60s and 70s. And and I know some have tried to make it work. Some didn't last this long. But I guess that's also part of, you know, how much baggage we all bring to the community, I guess, for lack of a better word. Yeah. And I think, you know, we're so influenced by our culture and what's expected of us. And I don't think we have any idea of how how much we're influenced by that. You know, we might think that we can live off the land and, you know, and and live like the hippies and the communes. But we're, you know, we're influenced that that's that we should want something more. You know, we're so pushed into this idea of acquiring more and accumulating wealth and accumulating material things. And it's very hard to to detach ourselves from those expectations from our culture and our society. So, you know, again, it wasn't easy for them because I think they had some of those similar situations there where things were being, you know, governed by greed and, you know, wealth and accumulation in whatever way that was for them. So they really had to change their whole mindset in the way that they lived. And it was huge. You know, it was not a simple thing to do. Well, it seems like sometimes some of us kind of fall into a new new rhythm or a new change of something new happening. Sometimes we're pushed into it. And, you know, it's I don't know, it's it's I I can see where it would be difficult having all of us trying to kind of do things together to say, OK, let's let's go this direction, because then there's so many different interests, so many different fears, you know, because all of the sudden, you know, if you if you told someone, jump off this cliff, trust me, you're going to be OK. It's going to be so beneficial. But it's to them. It's all they see is that cliff. I'm going to fall and die. But I was saying, you know, we kind of feel that way where it's just this debilitating fear to change, because if all of the sudden can you trust your neighbor that, OK, well, I did something for you. I didn't charge you. Will you do something for me now when I need it and then to expand that to two, three, four or five people and so on and then to expand to community? I'm just kind of as I'm talking, trying to break it down, how it could potentially work here, because otherwise people would say, I just want to go to work, get my paycheck and I'll be OK. Well, again, it's it's not just about changing what we do. It's changing how we think. It's expanding our consciousness to see the bigger picture, you know, and we're not used to that. We're used to having to just do what has to be done. You know, we're running that hamster wheel all the time of what's expected of us and how we're going to make money and how we're going to pay our bills. And, you know, we don't have much time for it to expand our consciousness, you know. So that had to be the foundation of all the other change. They had to be able to see themselves as more than just these physical beings. They had to see that the results of what they were wanting to do were part of a bigger picture. That it was also a sense of them being more aware of themselves as spirit beings, you know, being consciousness beings, not just physical beings. And so that the difficulties that you've just talked about can only be overcome by seeing the bigger picture and saying, you know, we're all in this together. We're all connected. We're all the same on a spiritual level. And we're all individuals who can contribute in a very powerful, meaningful way, you know. And so having that feeling of cooperation from a place of compassion, you know, it has to come from that place. As soon as it starts to come into the ego, you know, in this kind of self-aggrandizing place, it's not going to work, you know. So it's not abolishing the ego. We have to be individuals. But it's seeing it as a gift and something that we can contribute as an individual. So it's just that expanded consciousness has to happen first. And it's difficult to get people to that place, because we are so caught up in what we have to do to survive, right? So do they generally kind of tell you about the struggle that they went through and then have you kind of listen to the story and relate, and then have you kind of pick up on what to do? Or do they specifically say, okay, you know, if you want to get out of this situation, whether individually or overall on the planet, do A, B, C, or D? Or how do they go about doing that? Yeah, they actually haven't spent a lot of time on their story. They don't want to make it all about them. You know, when the questions have been raised about them, they will generally answer. But they're more interested in helping us to get a different perspective on what we're experiencing. You know, and so, you know, a lot of Mike's questions were geared less about them. He did have questions about them, but it was more about what, you know, what Frank is able to perceive that we can't, about our situation here and the challenges and the issues that we face, both as a collective and as individuals. So yes, there are some things like, you know, I'm experiencing this in my own life. Some people ask very personal questions, you know, how can I best deal with this conflict or this struggle? Or how can I think differently about this? And then some people also ask more global questions, you know, how do we shift the consciousness around politics and, you know, worldview? So they answer, they're very forthright, they're very to the point. If there's something they can't answer, they will say they can't answer. Again, it's not about them. They don't want to make it about them. They want to give us just enough about them so that we can understand that they have empathy for us, right? So it's more about the message than the messenger. So do they kind of just kind of go about their own plan or what they feel like they need to do or say? Or do they kind of collaborate with other beings that they might be aware of that are also here? Or what is their point of view? I mean, so a lot of us here is the understanding that there's a lot of different beings visiting Earth. Did they talk about that from their point of view at all? Well, as far as what they give to me, I think it's just from them. So what they've said is that there's eight beings. And I do feel sometimes while I'm channeling, I sometimes feel a shift, like there's a different one speaking, you know, but sometimes it just feels like there's one that's speaking. But I think they're collaborative within that group, you know. And yes, they have talked about there being other beings that have and continue to visit us in a physical way. They've talked about how there are, you know, a huge variety of different forms of consciousness among the beings in the universe. Again, they're solely talking about this dimensional space. They also say, you know, there's the whole, you know, lots of other dimensional spaces as well, but they're not from a different dimensional space, they're from this one. So they're talking about beings within our own 3D universe here. And they have talked about how some of them, while they are more advanced in their intellect, they may not be more advanced emotionally. So because the question has been raised about people have been abducted and not had very pleasant experiences with that. And what they've said was, those beings, they don't understand that that's upsetting. They don't have that empathy. It's just not part of who they are. They're not trying to hurt anybody, or scare them. They're just curious. Did they talk about, well, if anyone that's been in any amount of time into this, you know, the UFO phenomena immediately is aware of and knows about the abduction stories, as you mentioned, but recently, and I know within just for me in the past five, six years, it's been a lot more more information coming out. And especially Dolores Cannon was talking about this, that there is, do they talk about this potential agreement, and sometimes even pre-birth agreement for this to happen? Or what do you know about this? If you know anything at all regarding that, and if you don't, wouldn't mind sharing. Regarding visitations? Regarding to where from our point of view, it would look at an abduction and it's upsetting and horrible. And sometimes the miscommunication, what's happening while this is occurring, but then on a different level, that there's an agreement between them and whatever human they happen to deal with at that time. Do you know anything about that? We haven't had that conversation. I don't remember anybody ever asking that question, or them really focusing on that. I think the only thing that I've gotten is what I just shared, the idea that when there are unpleasant experiences, that it is a form of being that's almost like scientists that come here who just want to study us. Just very clinical. Yeah, so they're not really thinking of us as emotional beings because they don't have that level of emotion. But they do also, there is a spiritual aspect to them where they do, because they are connecting in a form of higher consciousness, they're also much more spiritually advanced. So there is an aspect of what you're talking about, the sense that we have kind of laid the plans for certain events and experiences in our lives for the potential they hold in the evolution of our own soul. So it could be that when we were in spirit form and we decided to incarnate here, we thought, well, let's see how I respond to an alien abduction. Let's see what that offers me. As Mike Dooley has talked about, I don't believe in soul contracts, but I do believe that we make choices for some of the experiences that we want to have because our soul wants to have that experience. So I'm sure that kind of experience is no different from any other. So I know often people always want to know, how does one get into channeling? How does one get started? I know personally, it's kind of like, for me, it's always been very simple. I mean, if you wanted to be a runner, then go out and run. If you want to be a painter, then pick up a brush and start painting, that sort of thing. Is there a similar process that you would recommend to somebody who wants to get into channeling? Well, as I said, it wasn't something that I had on my radar in my practices. I had been a practicing psychic medium, so I was doing psychic and mediumship readings. So I already had some practices of relaxation, meditation, just intention-setting. I had a very, very strong intention to only connect with beings in the light, only connect with positive energy, never had a negative experience. I think that's very important. You never want to go into any of this work with fear, and so it's really important that you deal with any fear you have, or don't do it, because I believe that a lot of the negative experiences that people have may not actually have been negative experiences, but they're being filtered through fear. Our brain is making sense of everything that happens to us, and if something happens to us that's unusual, your brain goes into a place of fear. That experience is going to come through as a negative one. It's like if you're walking down a dark street, and you're nervous, and you're on edge, and a cat runs in front of you, you might jump and scream because you think something bad is happening. So along with the state of, basically saying, so along with the intention, it would be basically to be in a state of relaxation. Relaxation, openness, also again, a clear intention about why are you doing this, what is it that you want from this. So we would come through then as some sort of just like an urge to do something different that doesn't seem like yourself? Is that how you know that this is possibly channeled, or what does it feel like? Well, since I had been doing the psychic and mediumship work, I knew the difference between my own thoughts and something coming in, and it's hard to describe. Our language doesn't have the words for that, but it is just a feeling that this isn't coming from my normal thinking mind. This is coming from a different place. It feels like I'm receiving it. There's a sense that it is coming from somewhere else, and it's hard to describe it in any other way. So when I, like I said, when I started the channeling, they gave me instructions. My sister and I had done the Ouija board, and they said, okay, we want you to do automatic writing. They wanted me to do it, and they said, and this was just their, how I was going to channel with them, so I don't know if this is a universal thing, but they said for me to sit at dusk as the sun was going down with a candle and a paper and a pen and just relax and be open to the experience. So I did. I did exactly what they said, and as I said, I just started to get a word and then a word and a word. And again, it's a very different sense of that clearly coming from somewhere else, because it's not my thought with an idea that I want to now put on paper. It was just taking each word and writing it down and then looking at it and saying, oh, that's a sentence. Oh, that makes sense. The problem with doing it by hand, and now they did instruct me to do it by hand first with a pen and paper, was that whenever I do any of this work, I have my eyes closed because it helps me focus inward. I'm not distracted by what I'm seeing. Sometimes my handwriting was illegible. I couldn't figure out some of the words, and so eventually I graduated to a keyboard and a computer. So at least if I have a typo, I can still read what it was. But it's the same practice. It's just I'm getting the words and I'm just transcribing them. Do you feel more energy or different kind of energy, or are you just still being yourself with just these intense thoughts? So when Frank wants to come in, I get a very physical sensation of pressure on my right arm. It's as though somebody has their hand on my arm, and I feel them come in from the right. It's just a sense of energy coming in from the right, and my energy moves to the left. So I don't go into a typical idea of trance where I'm not conscious of what's going on. I feel like I'm right here, kind of just a little bit detached, but I'm conscious and I'm aware of what's going on. I'm kind of witnessing it. Again, sometimes when they're talking, I'm seeing things in my mind that they're describing, so I'm still engaged in the process. There is a whole different sense of energy. The way that I speak changes. My body movements change. I look a little strange when I'm channeling. There are some YouTube videos, if anybody wants to look them up to see what I look like when I'm channeling. I don't ever watch the videos. It's very uncomfortable. People who have witnessed it know that it's definitely not me. It's just a very different personality coming through. And then when they exit, there's this feeling of coming back. In the beginning, when I first started doing it, the verbal channeling, it took me a long time to recover. So I would have to sit for at least a half hour just to come back. It doesn't take as long anymore, but I'm still a little off for a few minutes until I'm fully back. Like I said before, there are people who have witnessed this who have seen things and experienced their energy in different ways. If there are sensitive people in the audience, because they have very strange and unusual and powerful energy, so there are people who have sensed that and felt it in different ways. So have they always just channeled of something that can be done right here, right now? Do they have any kind of prophetic ability to see what's going to happen in the future to where they might say, hey, if you don't change what you're doing, this could occur? Has anything like that happened? Oh, yeah. I mean, in that way, as far as, again, basing it on their experience, it's not really prophetic or predictive. They don't claim to be psychic and fortune tellers. They will avoid questions that will say, what is going to happen? They'll say, well, here's the potential, or this is what could happen. This is what we've experienced. So in that way, they have that sense of looking forward, but they will never say, well, this is what's going to happen in a prophetic way. So, Tracy, is there anything else you would like to discuss and cover that I might not know to ask you? Well, I think one of the things about their appearance here, you know, it's a very challenging concept for people to accept that these are alien beings being channeled and that they're communicating with us. And I'm sure you've discussed this a lot in your show, but it really is a shame that we're so close-minded to that idea, that there's so much fear and ridicule around the idea of other beings. I really feel like the ones that are visiting, whether through channeling, whether through a physical visitation, I think they want to help us, you know, and I think that there's some really beautiful spiritual aspect to their being here, that if we would open our minds to it and stop making fun of it, you know, and stop seeing it as something to ridicule or make fun of or, you know, think that people have these experiences are crazy, that it could really help us. It could help us shift our consciousness. It could help us feel loved and supported by other beings. You know, I think they have a lot to offer us. And it's a shame that our culture supports the idea that this is just nonsense. I hope that part of the shift that we're experiencing is taking us to the place where we can be more open-minded about it. Well, I think, I don't know if you'll agree, I think that, you know, a lot of times talking about taking responsibility by you doing what you do. And years back when I started doing this, it's almost like it is creating these different communities to where the way you and I talk, maybe, I don't know, a normal person would just be like, what in the world are they talking about right now? You know, and so we're listening for my immediate family and, you know, maybe for you as well and your friends, you know, this is normal. You know, this is something that we experience all the time, all these metaphysical things, ghosts, aliens, all these energies, shifts, and all of that. And so I'm thinking maybe by just kind of being yourself and just keep living your life the way you live it, that you just kind of keep expanding your bubble, having more and more people around you in that way, and maybe that way there'll be enough communities kind of happening to where all of a sudden you realize, well, now it's a large part of your country that talks and thinks this way. I don't know, what do you think about that? Yeah, I love that idea, yeah. And actually it's, you know, I'm the one who's disappointed in the small audience that we get, you know. I'm the one who gets disappointed that we haven't been able to reach more people. Frank is not disappointed by that, you know. They will say to me, you know, that you don't, it doesn't matter how many people we're reaching because you have no idea of the ripple effect that this information is having, you know. So you reach five people, you know, and they're walking around with that energy, and they're talking about it, and it's shifting the way they're thinking. That's how you create change, you know. It's not necessarily the thousands and thousands of people who are coming to these events, you know. But again, for me, it's disappointing and frustrating because that's my ego, you know. It's not that I want to be famous, it's I want to get the word out there and, you know, the beautiful things that they have to say. I wish that more people would be open to it, but I just keep doing it. I think we all want to be comfortable because I know, especially, you know, when I'm amongst other crowds and they go into a lot of details about the latest score about a sport. I'm just using something very general. It's such an overused cliche, but it happens all the time. It's always weather, sports, and, you know, house family, which is fine. There's nothing wrong with that, but I just noticed for me, personally, how different world it is because already how I've been living, and at least that's kind of like I use that as a measurement of how much I've changed because you don't notice it when you live your life, you just live it. You don't really have a measure going, ah, today I've changed 50% more than I did yesterday, you know, and the next day I changed, you know, and so on. And so that's how I kind of measure to go like, I don't know how much more I can be around people like that because in a not in a pushy way, but somehow my other friends that are kind of also right down the verge always made fun of me too. They're like, how is it that somehow if we're always going to the party, we're playing cards and you managed to turn this conversation about aliens visiting from other planets, you know, and I'm just like, well, it wouldn't have gone anywhere if you and you and you and you haven't kept asking me questions, you know, that's how it turned into. Otherwise, you would have just shut me down and we would have went on with our card game, you know, so anyway, but being an introvert, you know, I don't deal with small talk very well. I was pretty socially awkward myself and but I can talk about this stuff for hours and in front of as many people as you want to put in front of me, but forget about small talk in a social situation. I can't do it. Well, Tracy, well, thank you. Thank you very much for being on. If there's something else you would like to tell me about, we can keep going. Otherwise, I really sometimes I just don't know, you know, other other than covering the bigger pictures, you know, because I always want to go picture wise overall in general generalities to cover those so that it covers a vast amount of audience that could potentially be watching this. And then, you know, that's when I would recommend them they get in your book or watching more or going to your website and watching you more to get the nitty gritty details that they're searching, you know, because the first book actually gives more information about Frank. And, you know, so if you're interested in learning a little bit more about them, it's more of an introduction, you know, because this was their first book. And even in the in the introduction of this book is how they actually first came about. But then this book with Mike Dooley gets a little deeper into what they want to say to us. And so this is more question and answer divided by different topics. So this gets goes more deeply into how they want to help us. So, you know, if people are interested in finding out more about Frank, start with the first one. But if you just want to dive right into the question and answers with Mike, then it's this one. Well, as always, I will have Tracy's link and link to the books in the description below. And so please check it out. Find out whatever you would like to find out. And Tracy, thank you again. I really appreciate it. And I hope we can maybe do this again sometime. Absolutely. Thank you. It was a delight. Take care. Take care.