Ceramic Review: Masterclass with Daphne Carnegy

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So I'm Daphne Carnegie and I'm a Majolica potter and I've been potting professionally since 1980,
so it's quite a long time, but I came to pottery via a rather circuitous route
in that I did a degree in French at Nottingham and then worked in publishing for a bit
and while I was working in publishing my boss, Mary Flint, she was doing a pottery evening class
and she said it's great you know you should come along and so I went along and very quickly got
hooked. Anyway some years later I got a job in France, I moved to France. While I was in France,
this is down in Aix-en-Provence, I met a potter who needed some help so I used to go along and
help her load the kiln and watch her and fire some things and then everywhere I went in France,
when we went on trips, I would always look out the potteries and in the Ardèche
there was a pottery called Salavas and there was a potter there called Gilles. He said if
you're interested in pottery you should go to this potter in Burgundy called Jean-Paul Betton
because every year he takes on a stagiaire like an apprentice and it's in this tiny little village in
the Maconais and very beautiful and so on. So that's exactly what I did and I ended up staying
a year in this little village watching Jean-Paul throw. I learned to throw almost uniquely through
watching him. He never once watched me throw but I learned through watching him and I could throw in
my spare time. But I learned so much about kiln packing and workshop practice and it was the most
amazing time and after that, after that year, I did a sort of mini tour de France working in various
potteries as a thrower. So I felt quite pleased that I got to that stage and then I felt the need
to have more of an art training because I'd learned a lot of the practicalities.
So I'd heard about harrow and how famous harrow was for particularly for throwing and for pottery
in general. So I came back to England and I got onto the harrow course and that was really you
know, that really convinced me that I was that was what I wanted to do. So during my time in France
I fell in love with European earthenware techniques, notably slipware and tin glazed earthenware
known in France as faience, in Italy as maiolica. But these are classic earthenware techniques
and I love the freshness of earthenware. Tin glazed earthenware is fraught with
potential problems because you're painting directly on the unfired surface of the glaze.
So the process basically is that you make the pieces, you throw the pieces, add handles, whatever
then the pieces are biscuit fired and then they are waxed, the feet are waxed and so on
and then dipped in this quite thick white glaze. If the glaze is too thin it looks very mean
and a lot of the body shows through, although that's another look which you know some people
might like. If it's too thick it tends to crawl so it's because it's a very viscous glaze so it's
not mobile so it's very susceptible to pinholing and crawling. The oxides or underglaze colours or
mixtures of both are applied directly onto the raw glaze. So in a way it's a bit like painting
on blotting paper. So you can't hang about, you have to get a flow with the brush. The more you
hang about, the thicker the colour gets and again that can produce blistering and other
sorts of problems. So when you're using oxides in particular, that's things like cobalt oxide,
copper oxide, manganese dioxide, the natural oxides, it's very difficult to know what your,
exactly the thickness or the colour of what you're painting because the colour value changes
so completely with the firing. So cobalt which looks black or grey when you paint it on will come
out bright blue. Copper is the same, it will go black and then fire green. Manganese will look
black, they all look black, most of them look black and will fire to a soft purple. But the
thickness again is crucial, the thickness of the oxide. So that really is trial and error and just
get familiarising yourself with the qualities of the oxides. So at the moment I'm using a mixture
of blue, cobalt blue and a black stain to which I add quite a lot of clear glaze
because again the black can be quite refractory so the clear glaze just helps it blend in better.
So then the pieces go back into the kiln for the glaze firing which is, I fire to,
on the pyrometer it's about 1080 but in actual fact if you're using cones it's equivalent to
about 1120. Then it's a total surprise opening the kiln, it's always a surprise. However well
you know things, you're never quite sure how thick or intense the colours are going to be.
William Newland who was a great potter in the 50s,
he once likened earthenware to Mozart and stoneware to Beethoven.
So I liked the liveliness and the freshness of the earthenware.
