Exposing Magic. Discussion and Giveaway Results

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I'm going to find out the winner of the quantum deck and you have to just put too late now
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I'm going to paste the right thing, I think. There we go. I've got two, this is riveting, isn't it?
I've got to do a little capture, nine, 13, and then get my comments, amount of comments, 32. So look,
32 comments. So if you, these giveaways, you've got a good chance of winning one out of 32.
It's not like something on the telly where it's one out of millions. I'm going to pick the random
winner. Who is it? Okay. So I've got it. Brilliant. All right. So I know that is now, and you're going
to find out at the end to make you watch me ramble on for the next 50 hours. I'm not going to.
So a little bit on the comments here and then we'll come back to them. Thanks for saying hello
everybody. ZQ, Drake, how you doing? Stephen Murdoch, coffee and ready. Good. Anthony, how you doing?
Good to see you. Check out Anthony's Instagram as well. Anthony Crapela, C-A-R-A-P-E-L-A. He's got some
lovely stuff. Gary. Oh yeah. Gary says, let's not celebrate 8K subscribers. I didn't know.
And I'm not like really, it's not like I never look at my views. I do obsessively sometimes,
but I didn't know we'd reached 8K today. So thank you. That's great. I'm really chuffed.
Imagine when I started the channel, I thought 10,000, that'd be incredible. And now it's looking
like it might be possible. So, you know, you can help me with that probably. So ZQ, Stuart,
good to see you. Hope to see you on the live. Tony Walker has got a comment about exposure.
Exposure, okay for simple tricks to hook people into magic. It's then up to individuals to buy
resource, further knowledge. Good afternoon, Terry from South Carolina. Man, I'm so desperate to go
to the States. Gary, how you doing? You've been putting some great stuff on the Discord for the
course. It's very funny. Tom, how you doing? Tom, I sent you the link. Imagine Man Pete,
the real Winslet fan, great name. Just loads of people saying hello and I really,
really appreciate it. Del Wolfensparger, it's Steve Ford, it is, it is him. Thank you,
JWD3003, I love your channel. That's really, really nice of you. Lice Whiskers, I know I
should have had, it's just getting so gray, isn't it? It's starting to look like Father Christmas.
Right. Exposure. What, I've just hit a wall by the way, just before we start this,
it goes all over the place. I just did that thing of like doing stuff all day and go,
I'm fine. And then realizing I didn't sleep very much and just went outside to run outside
and get a load of food and fuel stuff, a load of food in my face. So I should get a second wind in
a minute. That might not translate. So exposure. The reason I'm talking about this now is because
it's becoming, well, a couple of reasons. It's becoming really an important thing to talk about
because the landscape of magic is changing so drastically and it has arguably for a very long
time now, but as is or has probably my opinions on it. So I, the reason my opinions changed is I
really, really always try to go with the, well, two things, go to going with the stoic view,
really, which is a sort of stoic value of kind of working with the reality of what you've got,
really looking at what's going on, not what you want to be happening, but what's going on
and working with that and understanding what you can influence and can't influence,
which we'll go back to in a minute. The second thing is, of course, as I said, the reason I'm,
my, what I try and do is look at, look at the changing landscape and being flexible.
Now, when I do leadership training, which I do less of now, I'm doing nearly all the time on
the course now, but when I run leadership courses, one of the main sort of qualities of a good leader,
I'm not saying I'm a leader and we're going to be leaders, this is just, it translates,
is flexibility. It's understanding you need to change with the landscape, with the times,
or if you don't, you have a good reason why. So there's that. So going back to the stoic thing,
I started my course in 2013, it was called Card Magic Course then, and my main motivation to do
that was, of course, it would have been nice to have some passive income, which it didn't become,
and you know, all that, but it was also, I did this stoic exercise and it wasn't,
I didn't know it was that at the time, and I did a course, and on the course it was this idea of
understanding what you can influence and not wasting your time on the things you can't,
and this is relevant, so bear with me. It's out of Stephen Covey's Seven Habits of Highly
Effective People, he calls about, he talks about being proactive, and obviously we know what
proactivity means, it's being cause, causing things rather than just being reactive to things
and making things happen, but it takes energy to do that, and the problem a lot of us have as humans,
just being human, a human condition, is that we often spend a lot of energy worrying and focusing
on the things we can do nothing about, which is fine, it's a human thing, and you know,
conversations at the pub, moaning and stuff is good fun, I love it, but when it comes to kind of,
you know, day-to-day work, you know, trying to function in the world, I think we spend so much
energy on that, and the argument is that leaves us no energy to actually work on the things we
can do something about, so the exercise is basically, and it's a great, I do it about
every month, right, this thing, I just do it on a bit of paper, and you do a big circle, and you
write down all the things that are bothering you at the moment, you just write everything,
it can be like a creaky door, it can be like something really heavy, like, you know, some
sort of national situation, it could be anything, you just write it all down, which in itself is
completely cathartic, it's really, really therapeutic, and then you look at everything,
and you circle everything, and then you decide whether you can, or will, or are going to do
something about it. If you decide no, there's nothing you can do about it, you draw an arrow,
and the arrow goes out of the circle, the circle of influence, I can't do anything about it, I'm not
going to worry about it. Now it doesn't mean you're not going to care, that's a very different thing,
but actually put time into worrying, and stressing, and moaning, and complaining about it.
All right, so if, and if you do find something that you can do something about, or you want to
do something about, you put the arrow in. Now it could be something national, where you might think
I can't do anything about that, but you could, you could protest, you could write, you could do
something that may sort of influence in some tiny way the situation. So that's that, and I did that
when I created my course, and one of the things that was annoying me at the moment was exposure.
YouTube was not in its infancy, but it was wasn't what it is now, it's 10 years ago, right, nearly,
so there wasn't as much exposure on it, it wasn't as prevalent, but it was there, and it was really
annoying me. So I created the course to put the stuff behind a paywall, to teach the classics,
so all, you know, as a musician, as a music teacher teaches the classics, you know, really important to
go back to those building blocks, all the moves from Erdnase, you know, very heavily influenced by
Card College, things like that, and I created that course with that value of, I want to create somewhere
where people can learn properly, and put time into how I teach this, how would I like to be taught,
empathizing with the learner, doing it properly, and justifying the fee for doing it. So I got the
film, put it out there, and that was great. And the ethos at the time, which I think is still
one of the values, is that it's not exposure if it's paid for. That was the big thing I was always
told, and I know there's more to it which we're going to, but the big thing, if you're paying for
it, it's not exposure. You've got a magic shop, buy the books, not exposure, fine. But then I,
you know, you've got to think of all the people who, the classic magicians that I love, who have
said they, you know, they've learned their first trick by going to the library, and this isn't
arguing against a paywall thing, bear with me. So you go to the library, you're not paying for it,
but you're learning it, you're getting a book out, and you're learning it. So, which I totally agree
with, absolutely fine, no problem with that, but it's free. So it kind of, you look at the pay,
and it starts becoming a little bit less black and white. So what's happening there? Why is that
okay? Well that's okay because of effort, right? So we put effort into going to a library, sitting
down and learning something. It takes a considerable amount of effort, and we feel as magicians that
that justifies someone learning, as does teaching someone a trick. So we all know people as well,
and it's happened to me, where somebody taught me something, and when they could see I was putting
the effort in, and I was genuinely interested, and it wasn't just about me wanting to know how
it was done, they would teach me something else. They could see that there was something there to
work with, and that mentorship is something that I value, and has changed my life incredibly.
People knowing that I'm not just going to, I just want to know how it's done, but I want to learn
this thing, which I find beautiful, lovely, and fulfilling, and all that thing. So you've got
these two things going on. You've got the money thing, and effort. And of course, back in the day,
whenever that was, pre-internet, money kind of meant effort. Because yes, there was the commitment
of money, but to actually go and buy something, you had to go to a bricks and mortar magic shop.
Yes, you could get stuff through mail order, but there was a process to that that was more than
it is now. So again, there was effort in that, which justified that thing of, it's behind the paywall,
you know, you've got to pay for it, you can have it. Now, what I think has happened now is that
things have shifted. It's not the same thing. And we have to look at, maybe instead of, I think,
going for, it's a paywall thing, going for, what effort is required for someone to learn this,
and does that justify the exposure? And I'd love to know your thoughts on this. And this is where
I've got to, it's very, very difficult for me, because I'm someone who is so easily influenced
by opinions. I read a book, I believe it, I read a book, so I have to be very careful. And it's all
part of my kind of ADHD, RSD thing, rejection sensitivity, I want to be liked, I want people,
so I've really thought about this and gone, no, what do I actually think? Not what should I think,
or what would make me look good, what do I think? And I think this is where I am now, I hope.
For me, the money thing is kind of, it's still part of it, but it's not the whole story. And it's
actually, I think, a small fraction of the story. I want magic to be available for those willing
to put the effort into learning magic. It is now, if I really think about it, and I want you to
think about the effort it takes for you to practice. Most people that I say, I have a
newsletter go out, I've got a couple of thousand people on my mailing list, and they all get a
thing saying, what's your biggest challenge in magic? I would say 80% of people come back and
I've got loads of stuff in the drawer, but I never find time to practice. It's not I haven't
got enough stuff, and it's not I can't afford to buy anything. Now, I know that there are people
that can't afford to buy anything, which is again, kind of where I'm going with this. I have very few
people saying to me, I haven't got enough stuff. It's the other way around. I've got the stuff,
I can't find time to practice. So what that does to me is highlight the difficulty and the
commitment. And I go through weeks of not having time to practice because we have stuff in our
lives, like our kids and families and work and things like that, that have to, you know, come
first. So the effort it takes to actually sit down, and not only watch something, but learn
something properly is huge. Put on top of that, in the current climate, you know, the statistics say,
and the studies say that as human beings, because of social media, and the fact that our focus is
being bought by different companies, it's even more difficult to do than it used to be. There
is so many things vying for our attention. The fact that someone can sit down for an extended
period of time and learn something that's skilled, even a self-working trick is skilled, you've got
to learn it to the point where they can do it. And I'm talking from first-hand experience takes me,
someone who's practiced for years, a huge amount of effort not to be distracted. So that for me
is the commitment. It's not what it used to be going to a shop. Now the money thing is basically
a click, and you've got the trick, and not only have you got the trick instantly, you've usually
got a little summary of how to do the trick before the learning kicks in. So it'll be a little thing,
and I'm not taking the side here, but it's like I've clicked that, within seconds I can see how
this trick's done. So there's a bit of shift now, actually the money thing is the easy way to do it,
the learning thing is the hard way to do it. So who's to say that the people that, I mean,
then what happens, it becomes the more money you've got, the more you can find out how magic
tricks are done. Well, what about the people that are really passionate that haven't got the money?
And again, I'm someone that has an online course. You buy my course, and you get it straight away.
So I'm not saying it doesn't work to a certain level, but we're just looking at the objective
facts here of looking at exposure. So, in a way, if someone can spend some downloads, a couple of
quid, three quid, on a download, find out how a trick's done, now it might not be, it could be
someone's trick, but it'll have classic concepts in it, like a card thing, or card to pocket,
something like that, you can buy that for three quid, do that, or you can sit down and learn it
for free on the internet, which will require you to take that time and put it aside. I think the
thing about taking the time is what's actually keeping this from ruining magic, because there
aren't that many people. I meet very few people that say, I've been on YouTube and learned how a
load of magic tricks are done. Very few. I have met a lot of people that have said to me, remember
that masked magician bloke that gave away all the secrets, but it still didn't ruin magic. It was
horrible, and it was hideous, but it still didn't completely ruin magic. People can't really remember
some of the details, and it's not really in the zeitgeist, and people still love magic, and it
hasn't ruined magic. So the thing is, for me, is that it's out there. Going back to this exercise
of working with the reality of what's going on. The reality of what's going on is that you can
find anything on YouTube and find out how a trick's done. Is that an entertaining thing for a lot of
people to do? I believe not. I think most people think they want to know, and then they get a bit
bored. It's actually not, and then they want to watch the next video of something that is genuinely
interesting that's buying for their attention. I'm not saying it never happens. I'm kind of
generalizing a little bit, but as a professional performer, I've never really
had a massive problem with it. Does it annoy me? Yes. If someone Googles a trick, I hate it, but
it hasn't had a really negative consequence. So I go back to the exercise and go, what can
we do about it? Cat's out the bag. It's happening now. If we just complain about it and say that
something is wrong and don't do anything about it, we go back to the point of that exercise.
We're using energy on something we're not doing anything about. And one of the other points of
the exercise, and we all know people like this, that if you are someone that just complains about
stuff and is doing nothing to try and change the landscape, even in a tiny way, if you're
complaining all the time, people just stop listening. And that's why it's called the circle
of influence. If you want to influence people, which I believe on some level we all do, and
influence, I do not mean manipulate, influence people, be role models, influence people and
teach them, coach them, help them, then if we want to do that, we have to not spend all our
time complaining about the stuff we can't do anything about. I'm not on about conversations
in the pub and all that kind of stuff. I mean, generally, if you want something to change
and look at what can I do? Now, it may be that you look at it and go, I can't do anything about
it and I'm not going to put the time into doing anything about it. Fine. Absolutely fine.
But I went back to what do I want now, right? I want people to know and to know what a healthy
and understand what a healthy magic art form is, what it means, the respect for the secrecy,
the thing that if you learn this, fine, learn it, but please do me a favour, understand that if you
tell everybody how this is done, it's not going to just belittle the trick, it's going to belittle
you as a performer and they're not going to be as interested. And why shouldn't I tell them?
No, it's not just you shouldn't tell them just because it's wrong. It's actually gone. Well,
if you do this, there will be consequence for yourself, for the trick itself and for the
community. And what will happen over time is that magic will become diluted and it won't be as
wondrous as it is now. Now, for me, how can I do that? Well, I can do that through my course,
which I think as a paid thing is really, really important. It's still, I think, to be taught
properly, you should pay for it in the way that I know I can learn loads of marketing techniques
free on YouTube. But if I buy a course, I know that I'm going to be taken through a process
by the end of it. I'm going to be able to do that job, do that marketing better.
It's the same with magic. So someone is spending their life dedicated to teaching magic. I think
they should be paid for it only so they can do a good job. And that's up to other people that
they pay for it or not. But if you want to dedicate your time to it. So that's what I can
do. And I can also try my best to educate. And I'm not saying that puts me on a higher level.
We can all educate. We're all role models for each other, but educate people free. So people
can't afford it through this channel. And maybe you could see this as it. And by educating,
I don't mean you have to agree with what I say, but it creates a discussion. It creates awareness
and it creates a thought process and understand as well that what is healthy for the magic community
in any community isn't just the whether people are exposing magic or not. I think we've kind
of taken our eye off the big thing. What is really important is that we, we understand each other.
We respect each other's differences with compassion and we let each other make mistakes.
And, you know, you get someone exposing a trick and they get jumped on with the most vicious
attacks. And it's like, look, just maybe they're a young kid. Maybe they just didn't quite understand.
And that, you know, maybe that's our fault for just moaning and complaining about exposure and
actually not doing the things we should do to explain, you know, yes, you could expose that,
but it'd be great because it would affect this person, this person. And what we want to do is
create something really amazing that actually drew you to this art form in the first place.
So my view is this. I'm not going to complain about people exposing magic tricks. I will
to my friends and have a bitch and a moan about it. I'm not going to make a big deal of it. What
I'm going to do is try and create something that will make the magic community a healthier place.
And people talk about making magic healthy. Magic doesn't exist without magicians. It's
magicians. It's the community. It's about how we exist. And I think that's the thing that maybe
needs a bit of work. It's a wonderful, lovely community, but when I read the pages in the
forums, it needs work. People need to understand that compassion and acceptance and empathy,
even for those that disagree with us, is way more important than just jumping on people for saying
the wrong thing and maybe exposing the wrong trick. And there is my sermon. Have I forgotten
to say anything? Let's have a look. No, I remembered all the things I wrote down.
So, that was a ramble, wasn't it? I'm not going to be able to read all this. I'm going to try
to, but you read them. Make sure you all read them. Take the argument away from magic. I lend
DIY jobs off YouTube. Am I wrong for doing it myself and not paying a bill or whatever?
Yep, good point. Allow magic to go into the library. Yep, which is what we absolutely talked
about. Going to the library is not free. It requires some effort. Absolutely, mate, which is
my point and my point about seeing and learning something. Years ago, I started a website,
Magician, to upload videos pre-YouTube. Great. It was private membership with comments, etc. I
shut it down because I did not want exposure. Yeah, and because it's a difficult one. I mean,
I think putting your email in and being part of a community without having to pay
the effort is arguably, would non-magicians go there? It depends on what that wall is like,
isn't it? They would have to find it and take the argument away. Oh, sorry. Marty,
Google have been granted access to instance sequences exposure. Simple password protected
post or video is a way to allow people to prove that they're not simply secret hunters. Absolutely.
I think he's talking about exposure on YouTube and TikTok, not tutorials. Well,
I'm talking about exposure on everything. The things that people tend to complain about are
someone on YouTube is doing a tutorial of something they haven't got the right or something
that exposes magic. Now, by the way, it's a completely different thing isn't about taking
someone's work and ripping the work off. Someone's released a piece of work and you teach people how
to do that. That's wrong, wrong, wrong, because that's their thing. There may be an argument
against that, but that's my belief, is that this is all about, I'm talking about the classic
things of magic, the false accounts, all those sort of things that expose how magic's done.
So far, nothing I've learned didn't require significant effort. I have more stuff in the
drawer and on the bookshelf yet to look at that I'll ever manage to fit in my remaining lifespan.
I completely agree. The real wins look bad. How do I do this again? There you go.
Secrets should be hidden from laypeople to protect the magic. Discovering the secret
destroys the mystery. I don't mind giving tutorials away for free to dedicated students.
And that's, I suppose, the, I mean, and it's a really good point. And I suppose there's that
line of where if someone sits down and learns something, you know, I always think it's nice
to have an intro before you give the secret of the thing away, because then there's even
more commitment. Because I know it doesn't sound like much, but you know, if someone sits there
for two minutes, I've had complaints on air saying, oh, you've been talking for three and
a half minutes. And it's like, so for that, there are things we can do to make people go,
I'm not watching this, it's just too technical. And there are little things we can do to avoid
that. What is public domain and what should it be? Absolutely. However, I don't want the
curious to stumble upon secrets. Yes. If you call a trick by it's published name,
some people Google it and name the trick. Yeah, which is why I didn't do with things like glyphs.
When I think that you put a trick on, not that you're exposing it, but I've performed it and
just called it something else. And then I only call it glyphs on here. And even on the short,
I'm not saying, Hey, do what I do. I'm right. But again, there are things we can do if we
perform tricks. I don't mind kind of crediting someone if it's a, it's a routine because people
aren't, you know, people will just find the routine. They'll tend to find it hard to find
the tutorial that, uh, fun tips. Absolutely. Well, that's a great point. Um, Pete thumbtips
have been widely exposed and you, and I could argue that, you know, maybe the, the, the classic
trick with a hanky and it's gone, but still, you know, people, so many people don't know how
they've done because, you know, let's be honest. I know some people here might be different,
but most kids that get magic sets don't, they pretty much don't learn most of them because
again, unless they're really into it. So no, I never met a kid that's actually learned. I have
actually, but then became a hobbyist magician, but they actually got the magic set and actually
got the ropes and got the, the sort of the cards that were in this picture and stuff.
They just went straight for the kind of the vase and ball cause you could do it straight away.
And the little coin in the slidey thing, when it disappears, everything else kind of gets left
and maybe the cups and balls, but not really. Um, fundamentally fundamental talk. Thank you
very much, Tom. A magician must sacrifice their ability to be amazed in order to amaze others.
We guard secrets to preserve the mystery. Absolutely. And that mystery still should
be preserved. That is my thing. I'm just looking at what is the healthy way to preserve it more.
And that's what's shifted for me. It's not just stick it behind the paywall. That'll do.
It's actually, what can we do? The stuff that isn't behind the paywall. So we can educate
people if they want to learn it properly and accept that some people are just going to find
out how tricks are done, but they're going to get pretty bored of that because it's not actually
very interesting. Is it? I don't know that many people who spend hours. I don't know anybody.
And I know a lot of lay people, friends, non-magicians, none of them actually know
anything. They may be able to look at the next one. It's boring. Oh God,
I'm pretty sure 90% of people haven't seen a magic trick performed live. Let alone,
this is great from Dave Annick. We forget this. I haven't seen a magic trick performed live,
let alone I've had something exposed. The amount of people looking for exposure is super tiny.
Such a great point. And I know this because everybody, you know, when you talk to London
magicians, of which I used to be one, that sentence didn't quite get it really, but you
know what I mean? Everybody would sort of go, everybody's doing double cross. Oh, everybody
knows what double cross is. Or even the Omnideck. I talked about this on a video ages ago. You know,
the Omnideck. Everybody knows what the Omnideck is. No, you don't. And even if someone says I
saw it, they've seen it once. And it's just not, it's not a problem. It might make you feel,
and I get that. I don't want to do things. That's a different thing. That's a kind of values thing.
If you are worried that everybody, you know, very few people, so many people that I usually get text
messages from people saying, there's a magician at this event. Do you know him? Because, and that
doesn't happen very often. Because I don't know many people. I am poor. Okay, steal books from
library. Yeah, go for it. No, I did not say that. No, but you can borrow them. That's what you can
do. So yeah, so stealing people's stuff. Very, very different thing. I'm not about that. And
there's quite a bit of exposure by net magician trying to perform tricks they're not ready to
perform. Absolutely. And that is shocker. And a lot of it's because I find people that said,
my mate's a magician. He's taught me this. And they do crazy man's handcuffs. And it's just
the most horrific way of doing it. The odd person has said they learn it on the internet, but not
many. It's usually from someone else. And again, even though that happens, there doesn't seem to
be a massive amount of people doing it. People who want the secret inevitably will find it.
The main thing is, I wonder if my camera's going off. I hope it isn't. If I do, that's what's
happened. People who want the secret inevitably will find it. Absolutely. The thing is avoiding
accidental exposures, which I imagine is very rare. Good point. I know plenty of magicians and
had stories of someone and other names that I know as well. People go, I saw this magician,
do you know him? Yeah, but we could all see how it was done. And that's more memorable to someone
because they're seeing someone fail. And seeing someone fail is way more memorable than finding
out a trick on the internet, arguably. Badly performed stuff is the most likely culprit.
And as far as practice goes, I can say for myself with two kids and a wife, I do everything I can
to make time to get practice in. Absolutely. And it shows, Anthony and your stuff. I've noticed
that the social media people seem to want to upload before they get the handling down and
expose the trick by accident. What I get from your course, from Gary, is far more valuable than
anything that's on YouTube. Although YouTube is free, you don't get instruction for being on a
live course. Yeah. And that's the thing, isn't it? If you want, it depends what you want. If you just
want to learn some tricks and you want to learn a couple of card moves, you know, learn them on
YouTube if you want and all that. Like I said, the cat's out of the bag, it's happening. I can't
change that. But if you want certain things, we as professionals can provide that with experience.
Okay. Not sure people who search for Craigsman Fan Class may end up doing right.
Oh, Steve's course is definitely my best monthly expenditure. Thanks. If my camera dies,
I've gone to my rubbish webcam. Right. Thank you, everybody. So it's time. Please share this if you
thought that was valuable. I don't mind people disagreeing. I'm not saying I'm right. But you
know, if you're going to disagree with someone, not just me, or if I'm going to disagree with
someone, it's lovely to have a discussion around it. And again, do it with that level of compassion
and understanding that we all see the world in very different ways. Right, here we go. The winner
of Quantum Deck by Craig Petty, brand new. Thank you so much, Craig. I got one from Murphy's. He
is Magic Alan. His comment was great video again. Thanks, Alan. I totally agree with all you say,
and without exposure, we wouldn't learn too much. There you go. So totally valid. Everybody's point
is valid. Thank you, Alan. You're getting the Quantum Deck. I better write that down. I better
not write it down now because that'd be boring, wouldn't it? Great thought provoking rant, Steve.
Thank you very much. I'm not sure people say, yes, great, I'm Dell.
Thank you very much, everybody. See some of you at the live session in half an hour. I've woken
up a bit, which is good. I was feeling a bit faint before, wasn't feeling good at all. And
in my lovely new office, everything's here. We've got the internet, we've got the blinds,
we're ready to go. And if you want to pay for some good chisel, off you go to onlinemagic.co
where you'll get loads of good stuff. And tonight I'm teaching a thing,
my Spongeball routine that I put on the socials. Do have a look at Steve Faulkner on Instagram and
Real Magic Review if you want, but Instagram's the main one. I'm on TikTok now, so go have a
look at that as well. Right. See you later. Thanks very much. Take care. Bye. Oh, that one.
