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Vice President J.D. Vance is on his way to Pakistan for a high-stakes summit with Iran tomorrow. The talks will mark the highest-level meeting between U.S. and Iranian officials since 1979. A day ahead of the meeting, President Trump warns the Iranian regime to take negotiations seriously.
Democrat-led states and small businesses were back in the International Trade Court today, challenging the president’s global tariffs applied under Section 122 of the Trade Act of 1974. A three-judge panel of the court heard the arguments.
The Artemis II astronauts are racing home, set to splash down in the Pacific at around 8:07 p.m. ET tonight.
Welcome to NTD Evening News.
Our top story tonight...
A day ahead of a high-stakes summit in Pakistan... President Trump warning the Iranian regime
to take negotiations seriously.
And what the President says a good deal with Iran would look like... Mario Tsu at the White
House.
The work to reopen the Strait of Hormuz continues... Iran is still holding the critical waterway
hostage.
Israeli forces say they've killed more than 1,400 Hezbollah terrorists in Lebanon.
This comes just ahead of direct talks between Israel and Lebanon to disarm the Iran-backed
group.
Jason Perry reports.
The three-judge panel of the International Trade Court hears another round of tariff
arguments today, this time over President Trump's new global tariffs.
Arlene Richards brings us key takeaways from the proceeding.
After a record-setting mission around the moon, the Artemis II astronauts are racing
home set to splash down in the Pacific in less than two hours.
Former NASA astronaut Jeffrey Hoffman joins us live to explain what the crew is feeling
right now and what a safe return means for America's future in space.
This is NTD Evening News, live from our global headquarters in New York City, here's Tiffany
Meyer.
Good evening and thank you for joining us tonight.
Vice President J.D. Vance is on his way to Pakistan for a high-stakes summit with Iran
tomorrow.
The talks will mark the highest-level meeting between U.S. and Iranian officials since 1979.
White House correspondent Mari Osu is reporting live from the North Lawn ahead of all of this.
Mari, good evening.
What is the latest from the President on Saturday's negotiations?
Hey, Tiff.
Good evening.
Yeah, that's right, and President Trump today is warning Tehran to take those negotiations
seriously in order to avoid further military action from the U.S., telling the New York
Post today, quote, we're loading up the ships.
He's also taking to Truth Social to say, quote, the Iranians don't seem to realize that they
have no cards other than a short-term extortion of the world by using international waterways.
The only reason they are alive today is to negotiate.
And Tiff, this is coming just a day after the President saying that Iran is doing a,
quote, very poor job, dishonorable, some would even say, of letting oil through the
Strait of Hormuz, saying that that's not the agreement the U.S. and Iran originally had.
He's also saying that there are now reports that Iran is charging fees to tankers going
through the Hormuz Strait, saying that they better stop that immediately.
And here he is today saying what a good deal would look like.
Take a look.
No nuclear weapons, number one.
You know, I think it's already been regime change, but we never had that as a criteria.
No nuclear weapon.
That's 99 percent of it.
Yeah, but that'll open up automatically.
Yeah.
The answer is yes.
We don't.
We don't use it.
It won't be easy.
It won't be.
I would say this.
We will have that open fairly soon.
And here's Vice President J.D. Vance on his way to Pakistan, where he'll be leading the
U.S. delegation tomorrow alongside Special Envoy Steve Whitkoff and Jared Kushner.
Take a look.
We're looking forward to the negotiation.
I think it's going to be positive.
We'll, of course, see.
As the president of the United States said, if the Iranians are willing to negotiate in
good faith, we're certainly willing to extend the open hand.
If they're going to try to play us, then they're going to find that the negotiating team is
not that receptive.
So we're going to try to have a positive negotiation.
The president has gave us some pretty clear guidelines, and we're going to seize.
President Trump telling the New York Post that the ceasefire can be lifted at any time
if he feels the talks aren't going well, saying, quote, we have a reset going.
We're loading up the ships with the best ammunition, the best weapons ever made, even better than
what we did previously, and we blew them apart.
If we don't have a deal, we'll be using them very effectively.
Meanwhile, ahead of his visit to Beijing next month, President Trump sharing just the news
report that highlights how his interventions against Venezuela and Iran have hit the Chinese
regime.
China and Russia.
I think it's really China that all of this is centered on in a grand strategic calculus.
The Chinese Communist Party has for years relied on exploiting U.S. sanctions to buy
steeply discounted oil from countries like Iran and Venezuela.
But President Trump's interventions are upending this arrangement.
Before Maduro, you know, Christmas last year, China was the beneficiary of a lot of cheap
oil in terms of trade that it dictated.
Now, over 20 percent of its oil that it imports, it's going to have to pay a fair market price,
greatly higher than what it did before.
And oh, by the way, their foe in D.C. is the one that controls it.
And Tiff, Saturday's talks are coming as President Trump has declared that all U.S. forces, including
military personnel, ships and aircraft, are to remain in place in and around Iran until
what he calls the real agreement has been reached.
Back to you.
All right, Mari, thanks for those updates.
The work to reopen the Strait of Hormuz continues.
Iran is still holding the critical waterway hostage.
President Trump sending a warning to the Iranian regime while working with foreign leaders
on a solution.
NTD's international correspondent, Arian Pasdar, has the latest on the situation at the Strait
of Hormuz.
The Strait of Hormuz on Friday, still seeing minimal traffic.
Tracking data from marine traffic shows that almost no ships are passing through.
Most vessels sailing through the Strait are linked to Iran.
Also on Friday, an Israeli intelligence official telling Fox News that Iran is charging a fee
for ships to pass, saying the Strait is effectively under full Islamic Revolutionary Guard Corps
control.
They decide who gets to go through, but more importantly, who doesn't.
This corresponds with a statement from President Trump made a day earlier, saying there are
reports that Iran is charging fees to tankers going through the Hormuz Strait.
They better not be.
And if they are, they better stop now.
Military and diplomatic strength.
British Prime Minister Keir Starmer saying he spoke with President Trump on Thursday
night about reopening the passage.
Here's what they discussed.
We've been pulling together a coalition of countries, now over 30 countries, working
on a political and diplomatic plan, but also looking at military capabilities and actually
the logistics of actually moving vessels through the Strait.
So that was the focus of the discussion last night.
Prime Minister Starmer completing a trip to Saudi Arabia and the UAE, where they discussed
reopening Hormuz and the current ceasefire.
Starmer says him and the Gulf nations agreed on several points.
The Strait of Hormuz has to be part of the solution of very strong sense that can't be
tolling or restrictions on that navigation.
Britain's foreign secretary agrees, saying the Strait of Hormuz must be fully reopened
without restrictions or tolls.
The blocking of this vital waterway is hitting trade around the world.
Ariane Pasdar, NTD News.
Israeli forces report killing more than 1,400 Hezbollah terrorists in Lebanon as Iran demands
a ceasefire to the conflict.
This comes just ahead of Israel's talks with Lebanon, not for a ceasefire, but for disarming
the Iran-backed group.
NTD's Jason Perry has the details.
The Israel Defense Forces releasing footage on Friday of a man identified as a Hezbollah
terrorist in Lebanon attempting to take cover under a bush just before being hit with an
airstrike.
And another video of a reported terrorist driving away in this white truck before Israel
struck that target as well.
Israeli forces increased operations against the Iran-backed Hezbollah terrorist group
in Lebanon around the same time the war in Iran started at the end of February.
And since then, Israeli forces say they've killed more than 1,400 Hezbollah terrorists
in Lebanon and destroyed over 4,300 terrorist infrastructure sites.
On the other hand, on Thursday night, Israel said Hezbollah terrorists used about 10 launchers
to fire rockets at northern Israel, and Israeli forces later struck the launchers.
Five divisions of Israeli troops are now operating on the ground in Lebanon, engaging in close
quarters combat with Hezbollah terrorists and uncovering weapons storage facilities
along the way.
However, the Iranian regime, which supports Hezbollah, is calling for a ceasefire to the
conflict in Lebanon before talks for a ceasefire to the war in Iran can begin.
Israel's defense minister saying that Iran is concerned that Israel will, quote,
crush Hezbollah, and Israel's top general saying this to troops on Thursday.
The blow Iran has sustained also affects Hezbollah, because Hezbollah understands
that it is now isolated.
It is isolated within Lebanon, cut off from its strategic backing, from those who fund
it and supply it with munitions.
We are removing the direct threat to our communities.
In the meantime, Israel and Lebanon are set to hold direct negotiations over the situation
with Hezbollah.
However, according to Israel's prime minister, the talks will not be for a ceasefire, but
for disarming the Iran-backed group in Lebanon.
On Friday, some residents in Lebanon were seen holding Hezbollah flags and protesting
the upcoming talks, saying Hezbollah terrorists should be the ones who negotiate, adding that
the Lebanese government does not represent them.
However, the talks between Israel and Lebanon may have gotten more complicated after Lebanon's
president, Joseph Aoun, said an Israeli strike on a government building killed 13 Lebanese
state security personnel.
Lebanon's president said the strike would not deter Lebanon from defending its sovereignty.
Jason Perry, NTD News.
Terrorist 2.0, Democrat-led states and small businesses were back in the International
Trade Court today.
This time, they're challenging the president's global tariffs applied under Section 122 of
the Trade Act of 1974.
President Trump turned to this section after the Supreme Court ruled against his use of
an emergency powers law.
NTD's Arlene Richards has more from the proceeding.
A federal trade court in New York on Friday grappled for more than three hours with both
sides over the legality of President Trump's latest global tariffs and the attorney's
different interpretations of a phrase in the trade statute.
And now I have to figure out with my colleagues, we have to put our heads together and try
to figure out what that term balance of payments deficit means as a term used in a statute.
In February, President Trump immediately imposed temporary 10 percent global tariffs under
Section 122 of the Trade Act of 1974 in response to the Supreme Court's ruling against his
global tariffs under a different statute.
Two small businesses and 24 states are challenging the new tariffs.
In his new tariff proclamation, the president cited the nation's large, persistent, and
serious balance of payments deficit, which occurs when a country spends more on foreign
trade than it earns.
The panel struggled to understand what the balance of payments deficit means in the statute.
I'm saying if we disagreed with your interpretation of what a balance of payments deficit is,
is there any way to say, well, actually, you can look at liquidity and really what
the president's talking about in his proclamation is the same thing as a liquidity deficit.
That's what I'm trying to ask.
And our interpretation is that it means a deficit in one of the accounts.
OK, and then the question is, what are the accounts?
Well, the statute doesn't fix in time the specific accounts, right?
It leaves it to the president's discretion, doesn't identify by name.
The attorney for new plaintiff businesses responded this way.
The plaintiffs have asked the court to decide the case as a matter of law or to
pause the president's tariffs if the case moves through the courts.
The panel didn't rule on Friday.
Arlene Richards, NTD News.
Coming up, new evidence in a Toronto bomb hoax that led to the cancellation of a U.S.-based
performing arts company's shows.
The suspect openly says he's tied to the Chinese Communist Party.
Jack Bradley reports next.
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Congress returns to Washington next week
with a partial government shutdown dragging on
and a ceasefire in Iran amid heightened tensions.
Lawmakers now face pressure to fund agencies,
pass key legislation and question military leaders.
NTD's Chris Bobb reports.
When lawmakers return Tuesday,
the backdrop is far different than when they left.
A partial government shutdown is now 55 days in
and a weeks long US conflict with Iran
has only just cooled under a ceasefire.
That war and what comes next will be top of mind.
Now many of the top military leaders responsible
for defense and readiness are heading to Capitol Hill.
On Wednesday, top commanders from across the Army,
Navy, Air Force, Marine Corps and Space Force
will testify on military readiness
as defense officials brief lawmakers
on missile defense systems tested during the Iran conflict.
There's also growing concern about global competition
beyond the battlefield.
A house panel will also examine China's efforts
to gain an edge in artificial intelligence.
At the same time, lawmakers are juggling
major domestic priorities.
In the Senate, debate is expected to resume
on the Save America Act.
Utah Senator Mike Lee announcing on X Friday.
Early next week, we'll be taking up the Save America Act.
Again, we need to stay on it until it passes.
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And in the House, funding for the Department
of Homeland Security remains unresolved.
A central piece of the ongoing shutdown fight
that includes border enforcement,
immigration services and disaster response.
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into a packed slate of hearings.
Oversight will examine fraud and federal programs.
Budget hearings in both chambers
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And Health and Human Services Secretary,
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Once before Ways and Means
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Senator Lindsey Graham and John Barrasso
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In a statement following the meeting,
President Trump said,
reconciliation is on track
and funding for the Department of Homeland Security
is moving forward.
He also said the bill should be completed
no later than June 1st
and placed on his desk for signature.
Chris Bobb, NTD News.
Shenyun Performing Arts
touched down in Buenos Aires, Argentina,
marking the start of its 2026 regional tour.
Fans gathered at the airport to welcome the artists
as anticipation builds for their upcoming performances.
NTD is a proud sponsor of Shenyun and was there.
Let's take a look.
Shenyun Performing Arts
marking the start of the company's 2026 South American tour.
Fans welcomed the artists at the airport
with flowers and banners.
Performers say they're excited to bring the beauty
of traditional Chinese culture to local audiences.
Oh, I think they're actually in for a treat.
It's our 20th anniversary.
And, you know, we, again, every single year,
we put on a completely new program.
And this year's program is just as funded as any other year.
And for us, it's really a milestone to celebrate this
because in just a short 20 years,
Shenyun's become a global sensation.
And I'm very glad that we're able to bring this
to the Argentina population.
I expect to see a wonderful country.
Buenos Aires is a wonderful city.
And then I'm really excited to see it.
And then we just want to show the audience
the best that we have.
Shenyun tours globally every year with the mission
to revive China's authentic culture before the communist era.
And it has moved countless audience members
wherever it performs.
The artists say beyond technical excellence
and rich cultural depth,
their faith and universal values are key
to resonating across cultures.
During the tour, I think the reception of the audience
is phenomenal.
Everybody resonates with the show a lot.
And I really think it's because we present
these universal values on stage.
Kindness, compassion,
striving to speak the truth.
And I think this resonates with the audience members deeply.
We follow the principles of truth,
compassion, and tolerance.
We focus not only on technique,
but also on inner growth and character
so audiences can experience deeper values.
We do hours and hours of rehearsal and repetition.
But really, I think it's our faith
that really brings us together.
When there are difficulties working together
or challenges we face in the program,
it never feels like an individual problem.
We all get together and we solve it together.
And through this commitment to our faith,
to our craft, and also to each other,
that's what the audience feels.
Shenyun's Buenos Aires tour stop is underway,
running from April 9th to the 19th.
The company will then travel to Brazil
with 12 performances running from April 26th
to May 10th in Curitiba, Sao Paulo, and Porto Alegre.
NTD News, Argentina.
A new development in the bomb hoax
that led to the cancellation
of Shenyun performances in Toronto.
New evidence suggests the perpetrator is from China
and has ties to the Communist Party.
NTD's Washington correspondent, Jeff Bradley, has more.
The Chinese Communist Party
extending its reach into a free country,
shutting down dance performances
with fake bomb threats
simply because it disagrees with the message.
Now, new evidence tying that disruption to Beijing.
The person behind the hoax
that forced Toronto's Four Seasons Centre
to cancel six Shenyun performances
is now believed to be linked to the CCP.
New emails sent from the same address
used in the original threat,
and police say there was never a credible danger.
These emails show the centre admitting
that the Four Seasons threats were all a hoax,
as police also confirmed right at the scene.
They also link the centre to the Chinese Communist Party.
Two new emails written in Chinese
appear to show the centre openly aligning
with the Chinese Communist Party.
In one message, the centre writes,
the Toronto Four Seasons incident
was my most successful one.
Canada is hardly worth taking seriously.
Even my motherland's Communist Party
couldn't make the Shenyun MC cry,
yet I actually did it.
The message mocks a Shenyun host
who at a press conference following the bomb hoax
had just shared a deeply personal story
about her parents being sent to forced labour
and brainwashing centres in China
for practising the spiritual practice of Falun Dafa.
A second email escalates the rhetoric,
claiming police around the world
have become like dogs,
running around everywhere at my command.
Shenyun has received more than 150 similar
bomb and death threats in recent years,
all of them hoaxes,
but until now, no venue had cancelled performances.
Shenyun's mission,
showcasing traditional Chinese culture before communism,
which has long put it at odds with Beijing.
Canadian officials are now condemning the incident,
warning that it reflects a broader pattern
of intimidation linked to the CCP,
which targets voices it opposes.
This is most atrocious,
especially on the days
when we're talking about Chinese interference
in Canadian democracy.
Shenyun has been targeted
because of its effort
to showcase traditional Chinese culture.
And despite the intimidation,
Shenyun presses on,
bringing its message to audiences
in more than 200 cities worldwide.
For NTD News, Washington,
I'm Jack Bradley.
And joining us now to discuss this issue in depth
is Canadian lawmaker Garnett Jennis,
who we just heard from in Jack's report.
He's a Conservative Member of Parliament
and the Shadow Minister for Employment.
Mr. Jennis, thank you so much for joining us.
You've been following this issue closely
from the beginning,
and you actually sat down with the organisers
right after the shows were cancelled.
What came out of those conversations?
Well, I committed to them
that I would be vocal about this issue,
and I have been and will continue to be.
It's really outrageous
that these anonymous threats
were able to shut down
arson culture performance in this country.
And I think we should be hearing more of an outcry.
We've got a problem with foreign interference
in this country,
and it comes from various actors.
And we need to be strong
in defending our freedom,
defending the rights and freedoms
that all Canadians have
and should have protected.
And this is really a red flag
about what can happen.
And again, we need to stand up
for the freedom of our country.
And Chinon has performed safely
in over 150 cities worldwide,
yet in Canada it was shut down.
And again, police have determined
there was no real threat.
You actually wrote on XQuote,
this is shocking and tragic.
A classical Chinese dance and music show
that a foreign government doesn't like
is shut down on our soil
because of anonymous threats
and that Canada must stand
for free artistic expression.
The shows must go on.
What remedy would you like to see?
Well, I think foreign interference,
it targets our country
at a lot of different levels.
So it targets at the national level
through interference in national elections
and parliament, for example,
but we also see foreign interference
at the local level.
So it is a shared responsibility.
I think we need more action
from the federal government,
but we also need to support
greater resilience by local
and community-based organizations.
I think sometimes,
local community-based organizations
may not be aware of
or as prepared for these kinds
of international threats.
And it can be really challenging
when they're dealing with these things
for the first time.
But I think we need to reflect
and explore as lawmakers
how we can support local resilience
against foreign interference threats,
as well as stronger enforcement
at the national level.
And on that note,
Shen Yun was created
by Falun Gong practitioners,
a peaceful spiritual group
that the Chinese Communist Party
has brutally persecuted for 27 years
because of its popularity,
independence and spiritual values.
The show itself presents
the beauty of China before communism.
Joel Chipkar, a spokesperson
for the Falun Dafa Association of Toronto,
says the targeting of the show
and its cancellation is
a complete assault on our safety,
our sovereignty
and also on the artistic community.
Would you agree with that sentiment?
Yeah, I think this...
I mean, I'm hearing the reports
that you're reporting on in real time
in terms of more information
about the source of this.
This certainly has all the hallmarks
of foreign interference.
We know that Shen Yun
has faced challenges,
not because it's controversial
among Canadians,
but because the foreign government
doesn't like it.
And so, again,
this underlines the need
for freedom of artistic expression.
And that freedom
most centrally includes freedom
from interference
of foreign governments here in Canada.
And expanding on that,
the CCP has a long history
of using proxies and bad actors
to carry out its dirty work
while keeping its own hands clean.
Are there any investigations
into exactly who was behind this?
Well, I'm a member of the opposition.
I can't speak to what investigations
the government is or is not doing.
I think we should explore options
for action in Parliament around this
using some of the tools we have.
I hope that law enforcement
and our security agencies
are actively engaged in these issues.
But I will say Shen Yun
was also cancelled
at the National Arts Centre
in Ottawa, Federal Crown Corporation.
So we are seeing various threats
to Shen Yun through misinformation,
as well as through these kinds
of explicit threats of violence.
So I think, again,
this should be a wake-up call
about the need to defend
artistic expression in this country.
And by shutting down Shen Yun,
the Four Seasons essentially handed
the Chinese regime a major victory,
if you will.
The centre of the bomb threat
openly mocked Canada's politicians
as petty and utterly insignificant,
and dismissed Canada
as hardly worth taking seriously.
Now, Beijing is almost certainly
using this as propaganda at home
to show it can silence critics,
even in the West.
Now, as a Canadian MP yourself,
what's your response to these insults
and the broader message
it sends internationally
and inside China?
Yeah, look, we're a great country.
We need to be strong
against these threats.
But I think many of our political elites
have been too slow to recognise
the threat of foreign interference.
This is a pressing threat
to our sovereignty.
And I would say
foreign interference is often
a quiet threat to our sovereignty.
It doesn't have the same
visibility of other threats
to our sovereignty.
But it's very real and very pressing.
As one author put it,
silent invasion of foreign powers
trying to exert more and more influence
over our institution, but quietly.
We sometimes have failed to notice it
because of the quietness of it.
But it's clear now that urgent action
is required to defend our country,
to be strong against these threats
and to push back against them
and to help strengthen our institutions
at all levels to be more resilient.
And on that note, what steps will you push
in Parliament to stop Beijing
from exporting its censorship
and influence operations into Canada?
Well, I would say we pushed very hard
to get a foreign interference bill passed,
but we haven't seen
the full implementation of that.
It does look like we have
lost connection there.
That was Mr. Garnett Jenis.
As the world anticipates,
the Artemis 2 splashdown tonight, though,
NTD's Sam Wong was out
on the National Mall in D.C.
to hear what people are saying
about the mission
and what messages they have
for the astronauts to watch.
What's the significance
of the Artemis 2 mission in your view?
It's just another step for mankind
as we progress in society.
A lot of engineers,
a lot of people that worked in NASA,
a lot of hard work that's been done
over the past however many years
to converge to this moment.
I think it's a great feat
for the United States and for mankind.
What do you think?
I saw the other side of the moon.
Oh, yeah.
No, that was the Earth.
No, that was the moon.
That was the Earth.
No, it was the moon.
I think it's really wonderful
that we're back into the business
of exploring outer space
with man travel.
Bear in mind,
this is the longest
we've ever traveled in space.
Well, certainly longer than I ever have.
How do they get past
all the space junk
on their way there
and on the way back,
like all the satellites
and all this space junk?
You know, how do they navigate
through that on the way there
and on the way back?
See, that's a good question.
I'm going to have to defer you
to NASA on that one.
OK, OK.
I think that all of the Instagram stories
and everything that's been going on,
it's just so emotional to see,
you know, these four people
kind of going up.
They named the crater after,
you know, the I think
the captain of the crew's wife,
which is so nice.
It's a way to kind of broaden
our horizons in the world.
And it's just so emotional
seeing kind of how far they've gotten
and everything that they've achieved.
Any words for the astronauts
that are coming back home tonight?
Yes, definitely.
Congratulations.
A lot of a lot of kids
are inspired by your guys' work
and a lot of kids dream
about doing what you guys do.
So, yeah, congratulations.
You guys did a great job.
Thank you for your service.
Welcome home.
Thank you for everything
that you've done.
Hopefully that you've gathered
some great research and,
you know, congratulations
on the achieved mission.
Well, first of all,
thank you for doing this
on behalf of, you know,
all of us who can't
or might not be able to.
And also just wish you
all the very best
in this safe journey home, honestly.
I hope you guys land safely.
And thank you for doing this.
I think I think you guys
have given us hope at a time
when we really, really need it.
So thank you for that.
Hopefully you come back
and take a nice rest
in your own bed, you know,
and can't wait to hear
more from you guys.
So do you want to be an astronaut?
What do you want to say
to the astronauts?
Astronauts, I love you.
Thank you.
After a groundbreaking
10 day journey
that took them
farther from Earth
than any humans in history,
the four astronauts
of Artemis II
are now hurtling
back toward our planet
at nearly 25,000 miles per hour.
In just a few hours,
their Orion spacecraft
will slam into Earth's atmosphere,
endure blistering heat,
a communications blackout,
and a parachute-assisted
splashdown in the Pacific Ocean.
And to help us understand
exactly what the crew
is experiencing right now
and what this critical return
means for America's future in space,
we're joined by
former NASA astronaut
Jeffrey A. Hoffman.
He flew five space shuttle missions,
including the first
Hubble repair flight,
and he knows firsthand
the tension of a high-speed
return to Earth.
Jeffrey, thank you so much
for joining us.
Great to have you.
You've been through
several shuttle reentries yourself.
What do you think
the Artemis II crew
is feeling right now?
Well, I hope that they're enjoying
their very last little bit
of weightlessness.
You know, weightlessness
is one of the marvels of spaceflight
from a human point of view,
and they're not going
to be weightless for long.
Those of them who have
already flown before
will remember how
when you hit the atmosphere,
you know, gradually
you feel gravity coming back.
You feel your hands
on your lap after floating
in front of your face
for all the time
that you were weightless.
And then, of course,
if you're looking out the window,
it's quite a light show out there
once they hit the atmosphere
and really start slowing down.
And at that point,
they'll be pulling some G-forces,
and they're trained for this.
And what they'll be
waiting for, of course,
is to feel the parachutes
opening on top of them,
because then they know
they've made it through safely
and they're going to have
a nice splash down.
Hopefully not too far off the coast
from San Diego
is what I've been hearing.
Definitely a lot riding on this.
Now, Orion's capsule return
is very different
from the shuttle's runway landing.
Can you walk us through
what the crew will experience
during the radio blackout,
the intense heat
and the parachute later?
Yeah, well, actually,
the radio blackout
is an interesting thing,
because once we had the tracking
and data relay satellites
in geostationary orbit,
we no longer had the radio blackouts
during shuttle entry.
What's causing the blackout is
you're heating up
the atmosphere so much
that it ionizes
and the ionization,
which is, of course, below you,
prevents you from communicating
with the ground for
a fair number of minutes.
The exact time depends
on the nature of the reentry.
But the shuttle was large enough
and we had antennas on the top.
We could actually broadcast upwards
to the relay satellites
in geostationary orbit.
The Orion entry,
you know, they're not
set up to do that.
So they're communicating
not through the
geostationary satellites,
but directly to the ground.
And they can't do that
during part of the reentry.
Very fascinating.
And from your own experience,
what would you say are
the biggest risks during splashdown
and getting the crew out safely?
And has NASA made those steps better
since the Apollo days?
Apollo worked.
It worked very well.
You may remember Artemis 1,
there were some problems
with the heat shield,
nothing that would have,
you know, imperiled the safety
of the astronauts.
But there was less margin
than NASA wanted to fly with
on this mission.
They've actually redesigned
the reentry trajectory.
They're not skipping all the way
out of the atmosphere
like Artemis 1 did.
It's a more kind of
traditional reentry.
It'll be a little bit more
benign thermally.
And of course, they made repairs
to the thermal tiles as well.
Until you actually test them,
you don't know for sure.
But they've, I think,
have plenty of margin
for a safe reentry.
And to your point,
Artemis 2 has been
a full test flight.
How does this 10 day trip
around the moon compare
to your shuttle missions
in terms of crew workload
and also testing all
this brand new spacecraft equipment?
Well, the early shuttle flights
were truly test flights
of the shuttle vehicle
to understand
what its capabilities were,
what its limitations were,
what its safe operating limits were.
And of course,
tragically, we didn't always
operate the shuttle
within its safe operating limits.
That's another story.
Let's let's hope we
don't see accidents
like that happen again.
The tiles have been tested.
As I say, there's always
that final shock
when the parachutes open
and then you know
that you've survived.
And I never did
in a reentry like that.
Frankly, coming back with wings
is a lot more gentle reentry
as far as not pulling high Gs.
And there there will be
a reentry vehicle,
the Sierra Spaces Dream Chaser.
Hopefully we'll we'll
be making some flights.
And that's a that's a wing vehicle.
You can take things back
with with a lot lower G forces.
And of course, you can then land
on a runway and get direct access.
These people hopefully
will be picked up very soon.
I mean, I've never met
any of the older astronauts
who came down in capsules
during the Apollo era
who enjoyed rocking back and forth
in the sea in their capsule after,
you know, you're trying to get used
to being in one G.
And that does strange things
to your vestibular system
so that when you're rocking back
and forth in the capsule,
it's a lot worse for those astronauts
than it would be
if you're used to one G.
So hopefully they'll get
picked up pretty quickly
and then they'll get a hero's
welcome for sure.
You know, they've they've
done something that's historic.
It's only a small step on our way
back to the surface of the moon.
We've got a lot of work to do
still before we're ready to land
people on the surface of the moon.
And that will be in cooperation
with, you know, SpaceX, Blue Origin.
SLS and the Artemis system,
as it stands now,
does not have the capability
of taking astronauts
to the surface of the moon,
unlike the Apollo system.
How NASA is going to change
the architecture.
Jared Isaacman has gotten rid
of the Lunar Gateway,
which I think was,
that's a good decision.
But how they're going to
finally get people
on the surface of the moon,
as I say,
NASA has been counting
on the private sector.
We're all waiting for Starship
to get to orbit.
You know, SpaceX has been
has been working on it
for many years.
I hope I hope they're successful.
And same for Blue Origin,
which has gotten into the race as well
to develop a lunar lander.
So that's
one or both of those lunar landers
will be part of the test flight
in Artemis 3,
which they're hoping to do next year.
And that will be in low Earth orbit
to actually demonstrate
sort of like Apollo 9 did,
where they'll rendezvous
and recapture the lunar landers.
So that'll be another big step.
And then hopefully we'll be ready
to land on the moon.
And speaking of big steps,
this mission took humans
farther from Earth
than ever before.
Drawing on your background
in astrophysics,
what special insights
do you expect the crew to bring back
once they are safely home tonight?
Well, it's been pretty well documented
that that because of the greater distance
that they had from the surface of the moon
compared to the Apollo astronauts
who were only a few tens of miles in general,
except for Apollo 13,
which had to go into
a free return trajectory
like Artemis 2 did.
So, yeah, they they had good views
of the northern and southern parts
of the far side of the moon,
which human eyes had not seen before.
And, you know, that's
the fact that they were further away.
Yeah, I mean, they were on,
again, a free return trajectory,
and that's the way
Isaac Newton's gravitational force
had them do it
to get back at the right time
and end up in the right place.
Yeah, the trajectory
has been remarkably precise.
They've had to do fewer
course correction burns
than they had ever anticipated.
And yeah, it's gone great.
As far as we know,
they talk about
problems with the toilet
a little bit, still helium leaks,
which they're going to have to address
in the service module.
That's not part of the Orion capsule,
but helium leaks
have been a persistent problem.
But all in all,
you know, if you don't
if you don't turn up
a few problems in the test flight,
you really haven't learned enough.
I remember in the early days of rocketry,
listening to one of the test conductors
say that if everything went perfect
in a rocket launch,
this was in the early days
when a lot of the rockets
were blowing up.
He said, if everything went perfectly,
they didn't learn anything.
When we do a human spaceflight,
we'd like everything to go
as perfectly as possible, I have to say.
And so far, so good for Artemis, too.
And hope they have a successful reentry
and they pick them up quickly
and we'll look forward
to seeing them back home.
And lastly, very quickly,
why is a successful
splashdown tonight so important
for the United States,
especially as other countries ramp up
their own space programs like China?
There's a lot of interest
in different parts of lunar real estate.
Whoever gets there first
gets to set up shop
wherever they choose
as their prime location.
So there's a certain advantage
to not waiting too long,
because as you say,
there's other people,
the Chinese in particular,
they have a very admirable
exploration program,
both robotic and human,
and they're going to get
to the surface of the moon for sure.
It'd be nice if we could
maybe cooperate there
like we're doing with the Russians
on the space station,
but that's another subject
for another day.
Jeffrey A. Hoffman,
thank you so much
for joining us tonight.
Pleasure.
I love talking about space
and it's been an exciting week.
It sure has.
And don't miss the Artemis
two astronauts returning home tonight.
Watch the splashdown here on NTD.
The key moments start
at 7.50 PM Eastern
when the Orion spacecraft
enters Earth's atmosphere.
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And now for your sports news,
we're joined by NBD's Dave Martin.
They've got a lot of news to cover here,
some soccer news, some NBA news,
but let's start in golf
because the Masters enters round two today.
Where do things stand right now?
Yeah, last year's champion Rory McIlroy
still in front.
Actually, it's four shot lead for last I saw.
He was shooting a five under par today
through 16 holes.
That's after being tied for the lead yesterday
when he shot a five under 67.
So he was at 10 under for the tournament
with two holes left.
Now overall today, Terrell Haddon
had the best round shooting a six under par 66.
That's really shot him up the leaderboard.
Elsewhere, Tommy Fleetwood and Cam Young
both were shooting five under
and even Wyndham Clark shooting a four under 68.
Meanwhile, number one ranked Scottie Scheffler,
the favorite coming in,
shot a two over par 74 today.
That's up for shooting a two under yesterday.
So we use that even right now.
Should be enough to make the weekend cut
that has not been finalized yet though.
Scheffler has won this event twice
in the last four years.
Got all that?
Maybe.
It's a lot.
Well, I'm going to move on
because the Masters is often mentioned
as a tradition unlike any other.
What makes this such a special event?
You know, I think a lot of sporting events
like to claim themselves
of being unique or something like any other.
The Masters is one of the very few
that can really claim that.
To me, the biggest thing is probably
its most fan friendly event.
Most sporting events put out a bidding war,
of course, for TV rights,
you know, to maximize revenue.
The Masters, meanwhile, is very,
they really, they're more interested
in dictating terms to whoever airs them.
That's been CBS, meanwhile,
for the last 70 years.
For example, they only allow CBS
to air four minutes of commercials per hour.
I mean, that's pretty much unheard of on TV.
Meanwhile, if you want to actually
get tickets to this event,
you've got to enter a lottery
and it's going to be $100 for a practice round
and $140 for the tournament.
Those are very good prices.
If you actually see those resold online,
they're in the thousands of dollars,
both for the practice rounds
and for the real events.
Meanwhile, if you look at their concession prices,
this is the thing that really gets me.
The prices look like they're
from the Great Depression era.
Sandwiches range from $1.50 to $3.
You've got bottled drinks for $2.
Alcoholic beverages for $6.
You get the feeling they want real golf fans
and they're not just the wealthy ones.
Meanwhile, there's also a no cell phone rule
on the course.
They've got a really zero tolerance policy for that.
And for the players,
they have very cool traditions.
The master, the winner,
gets fitted with a green jacket every year.
Meanwhile, the winner then gets to pick the menu
for next year's Dinner of Champions
or Champions Dinner,
whatever they call it there.
So I could really go on and on here
to some very cool traditions at the Masters.
Hopefully one of these years,
I'll actually be down there
to talk to you from there, huh?
And feasting.
I will definitely be feasting.
I'm hungry just thinking about this, right?
All right.
While shifting gears to soccer here,
Brazilian star Neymar is reportedly
considering a move to MLS.
Yeah.
FC Cincinnati is in discussions
with the 34-year-old Brazilian superstar.
That's according to multiple reports.
Now I talked with our own
international correspondent,
Irian Prasdar, who's in Brazil.
He commented on this earlier with me.
Let's have a listen here.
Everybody knows that Brazil is the number one
soccer nation the world over.
But what many people don't know
is that Neymar is the one player
who scored the most goals
for the Brazilian national team.
He scored more goals than Pelé did,
Ronaldinho, Ronaldo.
He's the number one goal getter.
So if he goes to the United States,
it would be a huge boost
for the soccer world in the U.S.
Just look at Messi.
When Messi went to Miami,
all of a sudden,
everybody was interested in soccer.
They just went to see Messi.
The stadium always packed with Messi fans.
I'm sure it would be the same with Neymar.
Now, the only potential downside
I see in this whole story
is if Neymar goes to the U.S.
and he doesn't actually play.
He's just there to collect a paycheck.
That's actually what happened
in Saudi Arabia.
He went there for a ton of money
and then he only played
like a handful of games
because he was always injured.
Of course, the fans were not happy at all.
But he's in Brazil now
playing for his home team
and he's playing way more again.
I'm sure that if he continues
going like that to play regularly
and if he does that in the United States,
I'm 100% sure it would be a huge boost
for the soccer world in the U.S.
And then, of course,
the World Cup happening at the same time.
If all of those things come together,
again, it would just be phenomenal
for soccer in the United States.
You know, before Messi came over
just in the last couple of years,
David Beckham was, of course,
MLS's big get some 20 years ago.
Now, obviously, U.S. Soccer League
still lag behind the ones in Europe,
but it would certainly be a step
in the right direction
if Neymar came over.
And Arjen sounds like a fan.
Arjen's a big fan of that, for sure.
I love that enthusiasm.
Very bullish.
Yes, yes.
Me and him, we have to have
more talks like that.
And you can.
Well, David Salas,
thanks for joining us.
Thank you, Tiff.
And before we end,
we do have an announcement to make.
Tonight is actually my final night
anchoring Entity Evening News.
It's been an absolute honor
bringing you the news each night.
And I'm happy to announce
that Kerry Dunst from Entity Good Morning
will be taking over.
Now, this isn't goodbye.
You can still catch me every day
on China In Focus.
And I'm so excited to share
that I'm actually working
on a brand new show
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I can't wait to tell you more.
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