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Department of State spokesperson Vedant Patel holds a press briefing at 1:15 p.m. ET on Nov. 14.
Thank you. Before we get into what I'm sure will be Middle East related things, I just want to check
on the state of transition. Has there been any contact between the Secretary and nominee Senator
Rubio? There has not. We, of course, congratulate Senator Rubio on this announcement. To date,
the incoming administration, President-elect Trump's team, our understanding is that they
have yet to sign the memorandum of understanding as it relates to some of the transition endeavors,
both with the White House and the GSA. I will let them and the GSA speak to that process.
And as it relates to the transition between administrations, transition between secretaries,
we stand ready to support that process, stand ready to assist. I have no doubt that
in the weeks and time ahead, there will be appropriate engagement between the Secretary
and Senator Rubio, engagement between the teams. But of course, first step would be for that MOU
to be signed, which- So in other words, that hasn't been-
Correct. Yeah, that's right. Okay. Unless anyone else wants to ask about that,
I want to go to Middle East. I think, unless, I don't think your
question's on the transition, Ksenia. It is? Okay, go ahead.
Exactly my question. What foreign policy changes do you expect and hope to avoid once Rubio becomes
Secretary? I mean, is there anything Secretary Blinken would want him to stay the course?
Ksenia, I'm just going to jump in right there and just echo what you've heard the Secretary,
the President, Matt, and others say. There is one President at a time, there's one Secretary
of State at the time. The kinds of foreign policy and national security
objectives the incoming administration may or may not pursue, you certainly can speak to them. And
to the extent that they continue to hold daily press briefings, you can certainly ask them about
it after 12 PM on January 20th. Till then, President Biden is President, Secretary Blinken
is Secretary. Matt and I are the ones up here doing the daily press briefings, and we're happy
to talk to you about the things that we're continuing to pursue over these final days
in the administration, which we have talked about at great length. Anything else on the
transition? Otherwise, I imagine Matt and others want to get back to the news of the day.
Yeah, I just want to, so I wanted to ask you about the latest after our exchanges,
on, I guess it was Tuesday, about the aid situation and this new UN commission report
that is very harsh, harshly critical of Israel. One, since Tuesday, have you seen anything that
would make you think that they are now more in compliance with the criteria that were laid out
in the letter? And number two, what do you think of this UN commission?
So, let me get to the second part of your question first. As it relates to the
UN commission, I've seen some of that reporting, and we've seen some language coming out of that
indicative of their belief that some of the actions could be constituted as, this is their
phrasing, genocide. That is something we would unequivocally disagree with. Again, we think that
that kind of phrasing and those kinds of accusations are certainly unfounded. As it
relates to the humanitarian situation, I laid out on Tuesday, some of the steps that we have seen
taken. We expect some additional steps to take place as well over the course of this week,
particularly we anticipate that the IDF and COGAT may make some adjustments to the list of items,
the dual use items that would be allowed and allowed to be categorized within humanitarian
aid. Certainly progress in that space would build on the many things that I outlined the other day
on Tuesday. And all in all, what we want to see is all of these things in their totality
continue to contribute to an improvement in the humanitarian circumstances on the ground.
But they haven't done that yet.
We expect a decision to be made on that sometime this week.
And there's still been no meeting of this civilian harm reduction?
That is my understanding. But again, these items were...
October 31st, even before the last deadline on Tuesday.
Certainly. Our hope and our expectation is such an engagement happens as soon as possible.
But ultimately, Matt, look, we talked a little bit about this the other day.
We want to make sure that these kinds of efforts are sustained over an extended period of time.
You and I and many others have had a fairly extensive back and forth on Tuesday about
the contents of the original letter that Secretaries Blinken and Austin sent in October,
but also the results that we're seeing on the ground. Obviously, colleagues in the
humanitarian space had some perspectives and points of view on this as well.
And I say all this to say that at the end of the day, we welcome criticism of the United States
record. Certainly, we even welcome criticism of Israel's record when it's warranted. But certainly,
ultimately, at the end of the day, needs to be grounded in facts. And the facts are this,
is that on many of the items that were outlined in this letter that was sent by the secretaries,
we have seen progress and steps in the appropriate direction.
What we need to see now is these kinds of events sustained over a significant period of time.
And our hope is that through the significant progress steps that we've seen,
that the operational space has been created to see an additional inflow of trucks,
see an additional inflow of humanitarian aid, that all in all, contributing will hopefully
help address the dire humanitarian crisis in Gaza.
All right. Well, yeah, I mean, you keep using the word hope and the words hope and expectation.
At this point, it kind of sounds like, you know, thoughts and prayers
being offered for victims of tragedies. Are you saying that all accusations against Israel are
unfounded?
No, what I'm saying is the accusation of genocide specifically in that
UN commission, those accusations are unfounded. Also, the point that I was making about criticism
of Israel needing to be grounded in facts. Our viewpoint is that some of the metrics that were
outlined by some of these humanitarian groups in their scorecard released the other day
are inconsistent with what we're seeing on the ground. And just some examples of that,
that scorecard said that humanitarian aid had been cut off in the north. That is not accurate,
not accurate from our reporting and not accurate from our engagements with people in the region.
Food and supplies had been delivered to Gaza City for weeks now. And last week,
we've also saw some progress in Jabalia and some of the surrounding areas.
That scorecard had said that the Musawi humanitarian zone had not been expanded.
Also not true. We have seen the humanitarian zone in Musawi expanded. So there are just some
simple things like this that we think are inconsistent with the facts on the ground.
That does not mean to say that the humanitarian situation in Gaza is perfect. It's not. As I
said on Tuesday. But any criticism of the United States or Israel and our humanitarian undertaking
absolutely needs to be grounded in the truth on the ground. And some of those metrics are
inconsistent with what our colleagues and those who have been engaged in on this deeply are seeing
directly. Well, I'm kind of surprised you want to get into metrics that are contained in the
NGO report, since you refuse to absolutely refuse to get into your own metrics.
When you were asked about it numerous times on Tuesday.
We certainly were. There was no resistance to get into some of those metrics.
Let's get into the most basic metric, which was the number of trucks
of aid going in every day. You said 350 was the bare minimum.
That certainly was the metric that was outlined in the letter. And as I said on Tuesday,
the metric that we had as it related to between November 1st and November 9th. Let me just pull
up my notes. And I unfortunately don't have a more updated figure for you at this time. But
the metric that we had seen between November 1st and November 9th was 404 trucks. Again,
I don't say this to say that we are satisfied with that number. We certainly are not.
And some of the changes that I outlined on Tuesday, the opening of new gates,
the waiving of the customs requirement, the Jordanian corridors, some other measures.
The hope is that the government of Israel, the UN and other regional partners can utilize those
changes to see an influx of trucks go in. That is what the United States certainly expects. And
it's what we're going to continue to push for as well. Daphne, go ahead.
Thank you. Human Rights Watch said today that Israeli authorities have caused forced displacement
of Palestinians in Gaza to an extent that constitutes war crimes and crimes against
humanity. Have you seen anything that would make you agree with that assessment?
We have not. Certainly, forced displacement is something that continues to be inconsistent with
the principles that Secretary Blinken laid out in Tokyo. And again, I will let our partners in the
IDF speak to the specific military tactics and operations, but it is wholly consistent and
acceptable to ask civilians to evacuate a certain area while they are conducting certain military
operations. And then for them to be able to go home. We have not seen any kind of specific forced
displacement. But as you've heard us say consistently, this is something that we're
going to pay incredibly close attention to. And if we see actions that are not just inconsistent
with that, but inconsistent with what is expected of our partners and expected of
how we enforce U.S. law, we'll take appropriate action as well.
So you don't agree that there's been forced displacement to the extent
that constitutes war crimes? We have not made such an assessment.
And how can you say that you've not seen crimes against humanity, war crimes, genocide,
anything like that, if there's still assessments that are going on within the state?
What we have said is that these assessments are ongoing. And we've been very specific. We have not
closed the door on necessarily coming to that conclusion. What we are talking about is that
these are ongoing assessments. And we are going to continue to pay attention to the
kinds of actions and behavior that we're seeing. And can I ask on Lebanon?
Sure. Yeah, go ahead. Israel launched airstrikes on Beirut's
Hezbollah-controlled southern suburbs today, keeping up its unusually intensive bombardment
of the area for a third consecutive day. Lebanon's health ministry said Israeli attacks
killed 21 yesterday. Do you have any concerns about these airstrikes? Does this endorse ceasefire
efforts? We certainly would have concerns. Look,
you've heard us say time and time again that we do not want to see these kinds of consistent
operations in Beirut, especially as it relates to densely populated areas. This is something
that we're going to continue to stress with our partners in Israel. Ultimately here, Daphne,
why we have been pressing so aggressively for a diplomatic resolution is because we want to see
the conditions created that allow for civilians on both sides of the blue line to be able to return
home. And we also want to see UN Security Council 1701 effectively implemented, which would require
Hezbollah to disarm and withdraw to north of the Litani River. Certainly we have not seen that yet.
And just on that, a senior Lebanese official signaled that Hezbollah is ready to pull its
forces away from the Lebanon-Israel border in any ceasefire while rejecting Israel's demand
for freedom to act against Hezbollah in Lebanon in the future. What do you make of this? How much
of a sticking point is it at this point, and how can we resolve it?
I'm certainly not going to get into the specifics of the negotiations, Daphne.
But consistent with 1701, of course, is that Israel is also required to
withdraw to a certain point as well. But beyond that, let's not lose sight of the fact or forget
that Hezbollah is a terrorist group, a terrorist actor. And certainly, we would need to see
some significant progress in the implementation of 1701 as part of this. Go ahead, Sean.
In addition to, or as part of this, they're pointing out that the large parts of Gaza are
completely uninhabitable because of the Israeli military campaigns.
Does the State Department take issue with the facts behind that,
that the military operation has done that? Sean, I'm certainly not going to stand up here and
dispute the fact that there are, of course, there has been damage done to civilian infrastructure
and numerous civilian facilities across Gaza and have certainly made some of them inhabitable.
Ultimately, though, that is why one of the things that Secretary Blinken and others have been so
deeply engaged on is finding an end to this conflict and ultimately pivoting to a conversation
that is related to what happens the day after. And at the crux of that is what steps are we
going to undertake to make sure that Gaza can rebuild, that it is no longer a springboard for
terrorism against the Israeli people, that it is no longer under the control of Hamas.
All of those things we think are vital. You mentioned that there was, of course,
damage done. The State Department acknowledges that, too, to civilian infrastructure. How is
that distinct from what Human Rights Watch is talking about, their conclusion that this amounts
to crimes against humanity and, in their view, ethnic cleansing? Why do you dispute that?
Look, I'm not going to get into the specifics of the report specifically. I haven't had the chance
to read it in detail. I simply was asking Daphne's question if we agree with the conclusions that
we've seen, some kind of forced displacement, which we have not. That being said, that certainly
would be a red line for the Secretary and certainly be a red line for us, which is something that we
laid out pretty clearly in Tokyo almost a year ago. And those principles that the Secretary laid
out in that speech continue to be the pillar of how we view the ongoing conflict, but ultimately
what we want to see, what we want the building blocks of the day after to look like.
Yeah, go ahead, Said. Unless you had anything else, Sean. We'll come back to you. Go ahead, Said.
Thank you, Vedant. On the letter itself, two days after the deadline, whatever it is,
do you consider the letter to be nullified, canceled, or fulfilled, the content of the letter?
What is the status of the letter today?
Said, none of the above. I hope you were paying attention to the very extensive
back and forth we had on this on Tuesday. The point of what we said was that these are issues
that we're going to continue to pay close attention to. We're going to continue to
make assessments on them. And should we see things that we believe are inconsistent of
how we expect a major partner like Israel to conduct itself, we'll appropriately raise those
things and we'll appropriately enforce and take action as it relates to U.S. law. Our intense
focus and our close looking and our assessments of the humanitarian situation in Gaza did not start
when the Secretary sent that letter. It did not end after that 30-day period. This is something
that we have been intensely focused on, certainly in the context of this conflict since October 7th,
but even more broadly, the humanitarian situation in Gaza is something that,
of course, the United States has been deeply engaged on for many time before that.
I'm not asking a humanitarian question. I'm asking a technical question. The letter had a
timeline. I mean, it had very specific things. That part of it, is that nullified? Is that over?
Is that canceled? Is that shelved? What is it? The 30-day period, is it extended?
The letter was designed to inject a strong sense of urgency and produce action. We believe it has
done that. We are now going to continue to stay, remain engaged on this. If we see actions that
we think are detracting from these steps of progress, if we see actions that are inconsistent
with the kinds of things that we want to see, we, of course, will appropriately make
the relevant assessments that we need to make within U.S. law.
The letter is not void. It is not null. It is not canceled. The letter is one piece of
the puzzle as it relates to how we are approaching the issue relating to the
humanitarian situation in Gaza. I'm just going to ask this on the issue
of the letter, but the part that expired on the 12th of this month, is that over?
What part are you talking about, Saeed? It had a definite time limit.
I understand. It can't be renewable.
It laid out, I think you're focusing a little too intensely on the letter. It laid out some
specific steps. Let me finish. It laid out some specific steps that we wanted to see. It laid
out some progress areas that we wanted to see. We believe that we have seen some progress in
some of those areas. We're going to continue to assess and see what happens. If we see
a detraction or steps backward as it relates to that progress, we'll take appropriate action.
It's as simple as that. Okay. Let me ask you about the
number of trucks. You said 404 trucks ended between November 1 and November 9. That is
like 44 trucks a day. That's way too low. In talking to Matt, I will echo what I said
again. That number is incredibly and deeply unsatisfactory and certainly inconsistent with
the goals that we've set out. With the changes that have been made, the operational changes,
some additional border crossings, some routes that have been opened up and repaired within Gaza,
some changes that have been made to the Jordanian corridor, the work that is
ongoing with our partners in Egypt and our partners in Israel relating to throughput
and capacity issues at Kerem Shalom. Our goal and our hope is that we will be able to reach that
number. That's what we're going to continue to press for. You said that you disagree with the
term genocide to describe what's going on in Gaza. You guys have done that time and again.
We know that there are 44,000 dead as of now, at least what the Ministry of Health says in Gaza.
The Lancet group says maybe 186,000. There are 10,000 under the rubble presumed dead and so on.
Do you have a definition for what genocide is? Can you tell me what is the definition
of the government of the United States of America in describing genocide?
Saeed, I'm not a lawyer, so I'm not going to offer a legal definition for you. What I can say and
what I'll reiterate again is that the allegations of genocide we continue to believe are unfounded
in the context of the ongoing conflict. That certainly does not minimize the moral and
strategic imperative and responsibility that our partners in Israel have to conduct
their operations and conduct their activities with civilian protections in mind and taking
every possible effort to minimize the impacts on civilians. Certainly, it also calls into question
Hamas's role in this because time and time again, we have found that Hamas has been
resistant to this war coming to a close. They've been resistant to a ceasefire deal, a proposal.
They have yet to—a number of hostages continue to remain in Gaza, including American citizens.
Certainly, that is a component of this as well.
But let me understand you correctly. I'm not disputing any of what you're saying.
I'm saying that the government of the United States does have a definition as to what genocide
is. We've seen that. It certainly does. It certainly does. I'm not a lawyer, so I don't
have it for you. But again, we would find those allegations to be unfounded.
Can you please give us the definition? I'm happy to.
Okay. I have a couple more questions, if you'll allow me, and my colleagues indulge me.
I want to ask you about the West Bank. There are growing restrictions, Israeli restrictions,
that trap Palestinians, not only in Hebron, but in many other places. In fact, there are
communities now that literally get locked in. I know you guys get offended at the term
apartheid, but that's when you lock people in and allow them out to go to school or work or
anything like this according to your own calendar. What do you call that? What is that? When you
trap people, literally, you disallow them from, let's say, cultivating their olive trees,
going to work, building their communities, whatever. I mean, they are literally locked
in. How do you describe that? Sayeed, first of all, it is not lost on this
department and this administration how vital economic activity is to the West Bank being
able to be viable and certainly being able to be sustained on its own. Things like the olive
harvest and other economic endeavors, no doubt, are integral to that. In specific reports,
as it relates to some of what you said relating to communities and villages, we're aware of those
reports and we're asking our partners in Israel for more information. We are very concerned about
these kinds of reportings and certainly are concerned about what that could mean for maintaining
stability in the West Bank. We're going to continue to urge Israel to take all feasible
measures to protect civilian lives in the West Bank, but not just protect civilian lives,
allow for what is required so basic economic functions, like you described, are able to go
about and happen unimpeded. We also recognize that there are very real security challenges
that Israel faces and it has a legitimate right to defend its people and its territory.
The director of UNRWA said that basically it is catastrophic. I want to ask you, because I
remember this from way back in the 90s, when Congress imposed the transfer of the embassy to
Jerusalem, the President of the United States would go every six months and have a waiver.
Why cannot the President of the United States, in his last two months, issue an executive action
that would actually do the same thing for UNRWA, that would continue to aid and allow it to
function, although there is a congressional legislation? Said, I'm not going to engage in
hypotheticals. I certainly don't have any new policy or endeavor to announce.
What we've stated before is that we continue to be deeply troubled by the passage of these
bills in the Knesset. We're going to continue, along with other members of the international
community, to press upon the Israelis the ramifications of this bill being implemented.
UNRWA has played a critical role in providing millions of Palestinians access to basic health
care, basic education, food, and other essential services. It's essential that there be no
disruption to those services. As you heard me say on Tuesday,
there continues to be about two months before that bill, we believe, is required to be
implemented. We're going to continue to press and raise this with our partners in the region.
It continues to be a top priority for us. Thank you.
I know you said on numerous occasions that UNRWA is an essential humanitarian organization that
puts their lives on the line delivering food, water, and medicine to Palestinians. My question
is to you, how can UNRWA be an essential humanitarian organization when they indoctrinate
children in their schools to kill Jews and aid and abet Hamas to terrorize Israel?
I just don't think that characterization is true, Doctor. Certainly, we share concerns that Israel
and others have that a small number of UNRWA's personnel were involved in the October 7th
attacks and that those may or may not have had ties to Hamas and other armed groups.
We're also concerned that UNRWA's facilities may or may not have been, some of them, compromised
by Hamas, which also we believe to be unacceptable. But let me be clear, the vast
majority of the group and the vast majority of the people working within the organization,
they play a critical role to providing life-saving aid to millions who need it.
Jannie, go ahead.
Quick follow-up.
Jannie, go ahead.
Thank you.
All good. People get my name wrong all the time. You'd be still,
still. Go ahead, Jannie.
Thank you. Question on the Ukraine, North Korea, and Russia. Secretary Blinken,
during a visit to NATO, he said the North Korean troops are participating in the battle
and that the U.S. will respond sternly. What are the specific response measures,
and does it include restrictions on the use of long-range weapons?
So, as it relates to our Ukrainian partners and any security assistance we may or may not
provide additionally. I just don't have any policy changes to share. But in the context of
DPRK troops in the region, you heard me talk a little bit about this on Tuesday, Jannie. And
in terms of what our action will be at the center of this, we'll be dealing with it in close
coordination with our allies and partners. Secretary Blinken's comments, you have to
remember, we're at NATO. So, of course, we're going to be talking about this with our partners
at NATO. But also, the DPRK's involvement in such thing, no doubt, causes great concern and
consternation for the Indo-Pacific region. And so, part of this is working on this
collaborative with our partners in Japan and the Republic of Korea as well.
Is Ukraine winning the current war? What is the current status in the Ukraine?
Because they winning or Russia winning this war? What happens?
Jannie, you have to look back at the totality of this picture. And since February of 2022,
we have seen immense bravery from our partners in Ukraine, from the Ukrainian Armed Forces. We've
seen immense bravery from President Zelensky and his team in leading the people of Ukraine and
leading the country, utilizing with great vigor and utilizing with great strategy, the kinds of
security systems that the United States and its allies and partners are helping provide over the
course of this great conflict. And ultimately, at the end of the day, what President Biden
is committed to, and Secretary Blinken reiterated this yesterday in Brussels,
is that we are committed to making sure that every dollar that we have at our disposal
will be pushed out the door between now and January 20th. That is one of the things he
discussed with NATO leaders. We want to make sure that Ukraine has what it needs to continue to
effectively engage on this in 2025 or negotiate from a place of strain. Ultimately, that is up
to our Ukrainian partners to decide. And we're also going to be counting on our partners in Europe
and others to strongly support Ukraine's mobilization with additional artillery,
air defenses, munitions, and other kinds of training for Kyiv's forces.
Quick lastly, it was reported that the North Korean troops dispatched to Russia
mercenarily and the salary they received from Russia in return will be used by Kim Jong-un
to fund the development of nuclear weapons and WMD.
I don't have any reaction to offer to that, Janne, beyond the closing.
What we're concerned about is the closing of relations between the DPRK and Russia. And we
continue to see these kinds of actions, which are of great concern.
So IAEA Director General Khrushchev is in Iran. And he had a press conference.
I hope you followed a part of it. So he also said that he's going to visit
Purdue nuclear facility and attends. This is the first time happening.
What is your take? Is it a sign of Iran changing behavior?
I think we're hesitant to interpret anything as signs of whether Iran is willing to change
their behavior or not. Because ultimately, what we want to see from Iran is actual behavior change
and action, not just signs of something or indications of something. And as it relates to
Director Grossi's comments, we agree with the IAEA Director General. The time is of the essence in
ensuring Iran's full cooperation with the IAEA to resolve the longstanding issues of concern.
The President and the Secretary have been clear about this. We want to ensure that Iran never
has a nuclear weapon. And we're going to continue to use a variety of tools to pursue that goal. And
all options remain on the table. But given that we have seen Iran's escalation across the board,
including its nuclear escalations, its track record of a failure to cooperate with the IAEA
on longstanding issues, we think that it is appropriate that Director Grossi undertake this.
So E3 also, in the next weeks, the IAEA Board of Governors are going to push for a resolution
against Iran. Is the U.S. on board, given that some Iranian officials are indicating that
they will reciprocate by getting out of NPT?
Well, we're tightly coordinated with our E3 partners in advance of this
Board of Governors meeting, and we strongly support these kinds of efforts to hold Iran
accountable. And I will just leave it at that. We're going to continue to work with fellow
IAEA Board Governors to ensure Iran's full cooperation with the IAEA.
Goyal, and then I'll come back to you guys. Go ahead.
My question is on India, U.S.-India relations. How do you rate today U.S.-India relations
under the new administration? And Indian-American communities'
interest is after U.S.-India relations, immigration, because hundreds of thousands,
maybe thousands of them are still waiting in India. They are not getting an appointment
for immigrant visas after the consulate affairs moved from New Delhi to Mumbai, Bombay.
And that's a major concern. And two, three, four years, their husbands and wives are still
waiting in India. They're not getting appointments, especially from the Mumbai consulate.
Yeah. So let me say a couple of things. First, what the incoming administration
may or may not pursue as it relates to their relationship with India. Again,
I'm going to let them speak to that. I am not a spokesperson for the incoming administration.
President Biden and Secretary Blinken continue to view India as a vital partner. There are a number
of areas which over the course of the past four years, you have seen tangible ways in which we
have deepened that cooperation, whether that be trade issues, whether that be security cooperation.
India continues to be an important vital partner when it comes to the Indo-Pacific, when it comes to
global regional stability. And we are very thankful to have been able to deepen that
cooperation over President Biden's four years in office. And look, on the topic of immigration,
certainly fully recognize how important this is to so many people around the world, whether it be
visitor visas, whether it be formal legal immigration channels. And this is something
that we take incredibly seriously. And certainly, as it relates to the State Department's remit on
this, we'll continue to work and find ways in which we can improve processes. Just a couple
of weeks ago, Secretary Blinken and Secretary Gina Raimondo at the Department of Commerce talked
about ways in which they have been able to streamline processes for tourist visa processing.
We recognize how vital that is to the US economy. And we look forward to continuing to build on
that. Thank you, sir. Daphne, go ahead. We're reporting from sources that the US ambassador
to Lebanon submitted a draft truth proposal to Lebanon's Speaker of Parliament today.
Can you confirm this? I don't have anything to offer on that from up here beyond just saying
what we continue to remain deeply engaged and focused on is wanting to see a diplomatic
resolution, one that will ultimately allow civilians on both sides of the blue line to
be able to return home. Has Israel given its OK on this proposal? Again, I just don't have anything
to offer as it relates to this proposal. Can I ask about COP 29? Sure. Sort of a plot twist in
climate negotiations. President Aliyev was attacking the Dutch and the French over their
foreign policy. It's caused a bit of a ruckus there. Does the US have anything to say about
this? So the specific engagement you might be describing, I'm not fully familiar with,
but what I can say is that we do have a robust delegation at COP 29 led by Senior Advisor John
Podesta. That team is working to mobilize issues surrounding climate finance and building on
vulnerable communities' resilience to climate impacts. There's a lot of important work that's
been done over the four years under President Biden that we think that we can continue to build
on in the time ahead. That's what we're focused on. As it relates to this specific kerfuffle,
as you described it, I'll have to check and see if we have anything else to offer.
Sure. An obvious question. I know you can't speak for the incoming administration, but
climate, to put it mildly, is one issue where there's a lot of disagreement between the Biden
administration and what we expect from the Trump administration. How can the US, and I realize
Podesta has spoken himself, but from the State Department's perspective, how can the US engage
in this meaningfully when everything could be torn up? I think, Sean, there's two points here.
First, US climate leadership over the past four years has delivered some clear results. It has
created more than 300,000 clean energy jobs. We have seen more than 450 billion new private sector
clean energy investments. It is a tool that we think is helping hardworking families save on
money, on energy, on transportation costs. The other thing, Sean, is something that
people don't think about is that when addressing things like the climate crisis, when you are
investing in tackling that challenge, there is a physicality to it. Whether it be in the United
States or whether that be in countries around the world, when countries invest in clean energy
sources, when countries invest in alternative fuel sources and things like that, there is a
physicality to that infrastructure that is hard to just undo with the wave of the pen. Again,
I cannot predict or preview what a future administration may or may not do, but the
EV chargers and offshore wind infrastructure and things like that that we have seen
built up under this administration, not just in the United States, but in areas around the world,
there's a physicality to that. We know that that is going to persist and continue,
and that is going to continue to play a role in addressing the climate crisis.
Many others were injured in a bomb blast at a railway station in Pakistan's Balochistan
province. A terrorist organization, BLA, claimed responsibility targeting military
officers. What are your thoughts on the recent surge in deadly terrorist attacks in Pakistan?
Firstly, we strongly condemn the BLA Majid Brigade's November 9 bombing at a railway
station, and we extend our deepest condolences to the victims and their families.
We have a shared interest in combating these kinds of threats with Pakistan. We have a shared
commitment to regional security. The US itself has designated the BLA as a specially designated
global terrorist organization. We did that back in 2019. At the end of the day, we're going to
continue to stand shoulder to shoulder with Pakistan in its fight against terrorism and
violent extremism. The day after Donald Trump won the election, the Afghanistan Taliban
offered congratulations to the American people for not handing leadership of their great country
to a woman. Taliban leaders expressed optimism that Trump's election would enable a new chapter
in the history of US-Taliban relations. What is your response on this?
Well, I can't imagine that the Taliban are experts when it comes to leadership under a woman
or not. Look, it's not for me to speak to what an incoming administration chooses to pursue
or not pursue as it relates to Afghanistan policy, but the Taliban are hardly credible
voices when it comes to the role women play in their society and the role that women leaders
play. What you've heard us say time and time again is that for as long as the Taliban continues to
essentially hold back 50% of its population from fully integrating in society, fully participating
in society, it certainly is not going to be able to reach the international recognition that we
know that they're seeking. The last question, finally. There is a big cricket event in Pakistan.
Cricket? I didn't have that on my bingo card. Go ahead.
It's the biggest event after the cricket World Cup. India, due to participate in that event,
the Indian government refused to send the Indian cricket team to Pakistan. The last time the Indian
team was in Pakistan in 2008 due to political tensions, India never traveled to Pakistan. Do
you really think that mixing politics with the sports is a good idea?
So look, first, as it relates to relations between India and Pakistan, that is certainly for them to
speak to, whether it be through sports or other things. I will let them speak to their own
bilateral relationship. Certainly not something for us to get in the middle of, but sports is
certainly a potent and connecting force. You have seen this secretary, this department
really prioritize the role that sports diplomacy has in connecting people. It is something that I
know is incredibly important to our current Undersecretary for Public Affairs and Public
Diplomacy, Lee Satterfield. It's something that our former Undersecretary for Public Affairs and
Public Diplomacy, Liz Allen, really championed. At the end of the day, sports connects so many people
and it's a great way for those human-to-human and people-to-people ties that this administration
has really prioritized. In the back, go ahead. Thank you so much. The question is from Mexico.
The Mexican government sent yesterday a diplomatic note protesting U.S. Ambassador Salazar's comments
criticizing the former Mexican President López Obrador, particularly on his security policy.
Ambassador Salazar said yesterday that the former president rejected U.S. assistance
to deal with the cartels. Do you stand with Ambassador Salazar's assessment and do you
think this notice is justified? Ambassador Salazar was pretty clear that there is
certainly still work and still important work that needs to be done. U.S.-Mexico security
cooperation remains a top national security priority for us. What we're focused on is
deepening our cooperation with the Scheinbaum administration to make communities and ultimately
people on both sides of the border feel safe. I don't have anything else to opine on as it relates
to the ambassador's comments. Go ahead, in the back. Pink tie.
Thank you. Good afternoon. Pro-democracy advocate Jimmy Lai, his trial resumes in Hong Kong
November 20, just a week from now. I know President Biden will be speaking with President Xi
in a few days in South America. I presume Anthony Blinken will be in the room at that time. Not sure,
but you can correct me if that's wrong. It's Antony. Sorry, my apologies. But the question
simply, will the issue of Jimmy Lai, will President Biden and Antony demand China and
President Xi release Jimmy Lai? So in every engagement that Secretary Blinken and President
Biden had with Chinese counterparts, whether it be President Xi or the Secretary's own engagements
with Director Wang Yi, certainly human rights and the treatment of political dissident voices have
been part of those conversations. I'm not going to preview or get ahead of what may or may not be at
the agenda at APEC. Part of that, of course, is going to be talking about ways that we can continue
to responsibly manage competition. I'm sorry, I'm a little confused. So
I'm not going to speculate or preview what gets discussed in the meeting or not beyond just saying
that human rights issues and certainly the treatment of dissidents and the treatment of
human rights defenders will certainly be at the crux and part of that conversation.
Many have described this trial as a sham trial, this national security trial.
If he is convicted, what will the United States do?
I'm just not going to get ahead of hypotheticals on that.
Senator Cruz posted on X, enough is enough, never a good sign. Any State Department employee who had
attended a therapy session because President Trump won should be fired on day one. Our diplomacy is
too important to be left to children. Do you have a response to that?
Wow. A couple of things. First, I would hope that the senator is not implying that
wanting to take care of your mental health or wanting to care for your mental health or take
appropriate efforts to address mental health issues are childish because that's certainly
not what we believe. And whether it be a domestic election result, whether it be COVID-19, whether
it be some of the protests that took place over the summer of 2020, whether it be in the immediate
days and weeks and months following October 7th, this department has prided itself on, one,
the resources that we have made available to our workforce in dealing with these very complex,
challenging, mentally difficult topics. Part of that is as managers, creating the space
to engage on some of these challenging topics, creating the space for your employees to share
their legitimate feelings about any event. And we would want to make sure that these kinds of
resources and spaces are utilized regardless of who was president and regardless of what the
election results may or may not have been. Did state or offer similar sessions four years ago
after the election? I'm sure that there were. I'm sure that there were. I did not work here at the
time, so I certainly can't speak to that. But the point that I'm making is that regardless of what
the domestic political event was, and we fully recognize that, you know, we're a country of
differing voices and people may have different points of view on any event, including election
results, certainly no doubt that there are differing viewpoints within the own workforce
of who may or should or should not be president. The point is, is that we want these kinds of
resources and spaces to be available should our employees need them. Yeah, go ahead.
Yeah, thank you very much for that. Thank you very much.
This British national Miss Ellis recently went to Pakistan to meet the
family of Ajab Khan Afridi, who had kept her captive. And she went there just to pay respect
the time that she spent there as a captive. I promise that this couple of weeks that you and
I will fully respect you, as I always have, and I'll treat you with kindness.
I just have two questions. Number one, I've never seen in Pakistan, leader of opposition
in this Congress, leader of opposition, Congress means in Pakistan nationalism,
leader of Senate, opposition in the Senate, leader of Punjab Assembly, leader, speaker of
all of them being arrested in one day. Do you have any comment?
These seem to be largely internal issues for Pakistan. I'm not familiar with this. So I just
don't have anything to offer. And just last one thing. I have also started calling our new DOGE
ministry head, Mr. Elon Musk. Is he aware that in Pakistan, or would you please at least bring
it as notice that in Pakistan since six months, X is banned. And even the VPN now are under this
registration process. I know my colleague has brought to you.
Look, on internet freedom issues, which I think is the crux of what you're asking about,
these are the kinds of things that we raise with countries around the world,
including, of course, through our bilateral relationship with Pakistan. And I'm just not
going to opine on what Mr. Musk may or may not know. But look, internet freedom is something
that we'll continue to raise around the world. Thanks, everybody. Thanks, guys.
