THIS Is How The 3pt Shot Ended David West & UD's Careers
Oct 4, 2026
Favorite memory during the Heat-Paces rivalry?
Great moment, you know what I mean, in basketball history.
So, to be able to, you know, have, you know,
ruptured that a little bit, put a little bit of doubt
in there is, it was a great feeling for us.
We were really, I'm telling you, we were like,
and it probably, we probably got too high from it.
You know what I mean?
Like, we were like, oh, nah, we ain't never seen this.
We've never seen them like this.
And that ---- was like, dope.
Just the way we thought it would be.
Hey, let me ask you this, D-West.
What the hell did Mario do to you?
What the hell was going, what the hell was Mario?
Cause I know he did something.
I ain't know what he did, but I know he did something.
Cause Mario always doing something.
Right, so what's crazy is like,
the crazy thing about the NBA, at least the way we played,
was like, because we were an on-ball screening team.
So I had this, you know, we had, we played,
we did a lot of pick and roll in Indiana,
a lot of pick and roll in New Orleans.
So you develop this relationship with the guards, right?
Like, you know, you're going to hit these
and pop these dudes and give them shots.
So Mario was one of them dudes,
he would wait to get his lick back.
You see what I'm saying?
I knew Mario did something.
He'll wait till your back is turned,
or you're not looking, and he'll be like, yo, what's up?
Like, and it's, whatever happened
might've been three or four plays ago.
So it was just one of them things where he just,
he was getting his lick back and I'm like, nah, bro,
you tripping.
Like, I just wanted to get in front of your body.
I know he did something, bro.
Yeah, he was a competitor though, man.
Like, you know, I respect him because he competed,
but he was one of them guys like,
all right, well, if you're going to screen me,
I'm going to get through with my elbow or my knee
or something, I'm going to figure out something.
I know he did something, bro.
I know he did something.
I never know what he did, but I know he did,
because he always doing this.
We call him Reckless Rio.
Oh my God.
This is a question for basically both of you guys.
At Biscayne, Maine, is it devastating to see
the mid-range game become somewhat extinct in today's NBA
considering you guys were so effective at it?
I can answer that.
I can ask both of y'all this question.
I go first.
Hell yeah.
That's the end of my career.
Listen, D-West, let me tell you something.
I had about a good four to five years.
Hold up, hold up, hold up, hold up.
End of his career, he played 27 years.
Goddamn, he wants to play 33 years?
I ain't going to say end it.
I ain't going to say end it,
but that's the reason why I stopped playing as much early.
It was because everybody wanted the threes
in the mid-range.
Like, that's literally like-
That's true.
I went from playing to like sitting on the bench,
because I didn't shoot threes just that fast,
like a flick of a switch.
So yeah, it bothered me.
And I was also one of those guys where
if I wasn't hitting mid-range,
I damn sure wasn't a lob threat.
I mean, I catch a few,
but I ain't no roll to the lob big every time.
You know what I'm saying?
So it really impacted my game.
I don't know if D-West can speak on it.
Yeah, it's like, you know,
I don't like the fact that it's off the table
because it's a weapon.
And like Kawhi using that.
You know what I'm saying?
Kawhi killing these dudes to death.
So I'm going to experiment,
I'm trying to figure out a way to guard it,
but like if you can shoot those shots
and you practice making those shots,
they're effective.
You know what I mean?
Like they're a weapon, legit weapon.
Now, again, it's like,
I look at it like this,
like MJ shot mid-range joints,
you know, Kobe shot mid-range shots.
KD elite, man.
KD, I mean, even Dirk.
Like Dirk didn't shoot that many threes.
You know, Dirk did not live in a world
where he was shooting nine, 10, 11 threes a game.
Dirk was killing you from the mid-range
and the mid-range drives and the baseline attacks, right?
So like some of the greatest players
and the greatest scorers use the mid-range.
So, I mean, I hate it
because it takes away a viable skillset
and a viable point of attack for a lot of guys.
So again, if you're not able to shoot threes
and half the, like literally 80% of these dudes
that shoot threes should not be shooting.
Every NBA game you watch,
you hear somebody say he's shooting 23%
from the three point line.
Well, why the hell is he still shooting threes?
You know what I mean?
So it's like, you hear that
and it's just like, you know, it's a numbers thing.
It's not a feel thing.
And I think the mid-range is a feel thing, right?
Like you get to your spot and you shoot the ball, right?
Like it's a feel.
You gotta have a basketball feel
when to stop there or get to the rim
or get to the rim and move.
So I don't like the fact that they've taken it away.
I just, I find it comical that, you know,
some analytics dude could have the power
to tell a guy who can make those shots not to shoot.
You know what though?
Athletics.
You know what the thing is that I find the humor in?
You watch an NBA playoff game last four minutes.
There are gonna be a lot of mid-range shots.
Well, see, that's the thing.
That's what I don't agree.
All that gets thrown away
and it comes down to KD getting to his spot,
Kawhi getting to his spot,
Apollo getting to his spot,
Tatum getting to his spot.
Like at the end of the day, all the analytics goes away.
It's how are we gonna win this game
and it's the last four minutes of every NBA playoff game,
you see it.
It's gonna be an elbow jumper,
it's gonna be a logo jumper.
It's gonna be the foul line.
For 45 minutes, we want dunks and threes
and in the last three minutes,
take whatever buckets you can.
Because it's like he said though, right?
It's the most, it's the ass backwards.
But it's like what he said though.
At the last four minutes of the game,
you don't want a 23% dude shooting that three
to win the game for you.
And God forbid, that guy who shoots 23%
doesn't want to shoot it either.
And it also goes back to what he said about habits.
Steph, Klay, they're shooting 400, 500, 600.
They have the habits.
You mother show up at 7.30 with no habits
and start firing that up.
It just, it don't make no sense.
But I agree with you D-West, man.
And it ain't just because personally,
it impacted my game,
but just the overall game of basketball.
It's still there though.
It really is.
Because like I'm telling you,
when it comes down to winning time,
it's an annihilation route.
It's how do I get a bucket?
How do I get to the foul line?
It's gonna be free throw line down.
I mean, let's just call analytics what they are.
We gonna use this as a scapegoat
not to pay or play certain people.
That's what we gonna use the analytics for.
We gonna use this as an scapegoat
not to pay or play certain people.
I wish they had analytics when I was coming through.
They definitely had analytics.
He even said it to me and Ray.
Me and Ray used to laugh at it all the time.
Like you saw the level of the game go and change.
Like when we first came through the league,
if you didn't shoot 40% from three,
you didn't shoot more.
You broke even, you couldn't.
No.
Like we go into it,
we go into it and call a guy a red dude,
like a hot guy.
Shooting 32% but he shoots nine a game.
You're like, that's not a hot guy.
That's a guy who should get off the rock guy.
Right, right, right, right.
We're running this guy off like 9-1-1.
But when you look at the analytics of it
and Huey Brown was before his time on this part.
He was like, if you shoot 33 from three,
it's like shooting pitch from the field.
So he'd break that down
but it still didn't make any sense
why you shoot 12 of them.
Right, right.
I mean, I wish I'd have shot 12 of them hoes.
At, it sounds like all the questions are the same.
Mr. West, as a Pacers fan,
what was the missing piece
that would have helped y'all get past the heat
those series you played them?
That's, yo, Danny Granger.
Healthy Danny Granger.
We traded Danny.
You know, the first year we lost in the conference finals,
he was hurt.
Yes.
And then the second year we traded him.
But, you know, we always,
we didn't have Danny and we all,
Danny had great size.
You know, with the switches, the rebounding,
his shot making.
And then when he did play,
he would always get an offensive rebound over D. Wade
because he was bigger than him.
Like literally because he was 6'9".
And I remember Coach Vogel and I talked about it one time.
We were like, yo,
that moment right there could win us the series.
And we never got him in that point to challenge.
So Danny was probably the missing piece.
We never got him when he was healthy.
And then that last year,
they just weren't happy with the speed of it.
Who'd they trade him?
Who'd they trade him for?
You know, they made a decision.
Who'd they trade him for?
Evan Turner, I think.
Yes.
He ended up spending,
Danny ended up spending some time in Miami
with us for a little bit.
In the injuries, but he spent some time with us.
Good dude.
We touched on Kawhi a little bit,
but there's another fan question.
What was it like playing with a young Leonard?
He was, Kawhi was quiet, but he was a worker.
Had to be a worker because let me tell you something.
I watched him at San Diego State.
Fun fact, my brother was coaching at New Mexico at the time.
Same league.
So we watched him a ton.
He was like an 18% three-point shooter in college.
Wow.
Might've been 20.
But either way, it wasn't very good.
He's turned himself,
obviously mid-range is his still bread and butter, but.
So that was his game?
His midi?
Yeah, and just at the rim and just.
He was a dog, but quiet dog.
Go ahead.
I didn't want to interrupt you, but go ahead.
No, no, no, no, no.
He, you know, just a guy that worked.
And you could see the, you could see the talent.
Like he, you know, he'd already won the championship
or the MVP and all that stuff.
So you could see the talent.
You know, obviously with him, it was just,
it's a matter of health.
Like if the dude is healthy,
he's one of the baddest dudes on the planet, right?
So he's going to be able to create
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