My Maps Program: https://mymapsprogram.com $297 for a fully customized MAPS program, plus a 1-on-1 call with a trainer to review it.
In this episode the guys break down why working out seven days a week is counterproductive for almost everyone. They cover the critical difference between a workout (aiming for a specific adaptation like strength, stamina or mobility) and activity (simply moving), why workouts are a physical stress on the body with a limited capacity, why recovery and adaptation are two different things and most people only get the former, why the perfect dose beats the max tolerable dose every time, and why intensity is the most important lever to adjust before cutting volume or frequency. They also cover how all other life stressors — sleep, work, relationships, diet — draw from the same stress budget as your training, why full body three days a week controls all three variables so effectively, and why Adam found it difficult to skip a workout even when his readiness score was low after several high-activity days in a row.
Mind Pump Store: https://mindpumpstore.com Maps Fitness Products: https://mapsfitnessproducts.com Instagram: @mindpumpmedia 0:00 - Why working out seven days a week is counterproductive for almost everyone 1:10 - The difference between a workout and activity — why this distinction changes everything 4:06 - Workouts are a stress on the body — and you have a limited capacity for stress 7:44 - Recovery vs. adaptation — why most people only get one without the other 10:25 - Why people plateau doing the same workout four days a week with no results 11:22 - Perfect dose vs. max tolerable dose — why more is not better 13:36 - Why you are better off doing slightly too little than slightly too much 16:31 - Intensity, duration and frequency — the three levers and which one matters most 18:27 - Why full body three days a week controls all three variables so effectively 20:08 - Strength, stamina and mobility — the three adaptations your workouts should chase
Working out seven days a week is often counterproductive because physical improvement requires a balance between stress and recovery. While daily general activity is healthy, high-intensity workouts require downtime for the body to adapt and grow stronger. True progress happens during adaptation, not just recovery, and exceeding one's \"max tolerable dose\" leads to plateaus.
The more you work out, the better the results, right?
Wrong.
We're going to talk about why you should
not work out seven days a week.
In fact, if that's what you do,
you're not getting nearly the best results you can get.
We're going to talk about it right now.
Let's go.
Do you think there's an example of where this does make sense, really?
Good question.
But I think what we need to do first,
kind of set the context, is define the difference
between a workout and activity because that's different.
Yes. Because, uh, whenever, you know,
I say something like this, like, you know,
you only need to work out a couple of days a week
or three days a week. People sometimes will send studies
that show the benefits of, uh, frequent
activity. Yeah. And, and, and, and there are tons of benefits.
And so you'll see studies like this,
like people who are active every day, live longer,
have better health, um, better longevity markers,
markers less chronic health issues like all
the good stuff uh versus people who are who aren't
active every single day
and so people believe that to mean that they should work out every
single day but there's a big difference
so here's one of the main ways you can break this down
a workout is aiming for a specific type of adaptation
so when i'm doing a workout i'm
either trying to get stronger or i'm trying to improve my stamina
or my endurance or my mobility
like i'm aiming towards some kind
of a physical pursuit activity is just activity walking is
activity so when you look at the studies on people
that are active every single day what you're
looking at are people who aren't sitting down all day long yeah people
who are walking daily who are
simply moving uh and that's very very different
so what we're not saying here is don't be active
every single day you should you should move every single day uh
in fact if you sit down a lot
even if you work out three days a week
and the rest of the week you're just sitting down
uh you would have lots of benefit
from moving every single day that's totally different uh
than a workout so i think that sets the context well
and from that context where does it make
sense or does it ever make sense for anybody really
to train set workout seven days a week
when you what you typically will see
is with really really high level um athletes and and
and we need to be crazy skill specific.
Yeah, exactly. So you gotta be careful with that,
right? First off, these are high level athletes,
highly trained, great genetics. This is what they
do. Micromanaged intensity. Yes.
And all of their, their whole life is kind of geared towards this.
This is what they do. Uh, so they're already
in a different category than most people in terms of
their ability or capacity to handle lots of workouts.
Um, also they don't work out every
single day uh what they manage intensity very carefully
and a lot of it is just skill practice
yeah so you'll often see like
um figure skaters divers gymnasts gymnasts and really what they're
doing every day is getting really good
at their skill you have to practice the skill it's not
just about being fit or being strong
or having stamina it's really about maximizing and perfecting
a particular skill so it'd be like um if you wanted
to get really good at throwing a fastball
what you would not do is throw hard fastball seven days
a week i think i think i could say
that i think a lot of people would identify
with that enough people play baseball to know that's
a terrible idea you'd hurt your arm you have
a limited number of pitches even yes for your arm
yeah but you could practice biomechanics
and technique on a daily basis there's some days
you would throw hard but most of the days you wouldn't okay well
then let me reframe that for
probably what 95 or 98 percent of all listeners that are listening uh
then okay does it ever make
sense for somebody who is working out for body composition change
who is trying to lose body fat
build muscle change their their physique
in the the fastest most effective way does it ever make
sense for that person to be working out seven days
a week no uh no it doesn't not even um
pro bodybuilders or high level bodybuilders
who are on anabolic steroids, lift weights or really
work out hard every single day.
So those are both adaptations, right? Body fat isn't a fat loss
and adaptation to being in a calorie deficit,
building muscles is an adaptation to, to trying
to build strength. Essentially it's
the closest physical pursuit connected to it. And no, you
can't because one of the main points is that workouts
are a stress on the body. Like actual
workouts are a stress on the body.
And this is why the body adapts because your body's goal with
a stress, with any stress, is as your body perceives a stress,
it says, okay, that was not good. So
here's what we're going to do. We're going to try
to strengthen ourselves or bolster ourselves so
the same insult is no longer a stress, right?
So a good example is this, like, if I handle rough
objects with my hands and my skin gets a little torn up a little bit,
not too much, but enough
to where my body perceives it as a stress
my skin will eventually toughen and i'll develop calluses
so that that no longer is a stress
and the same thing is true with exercise and the thing is that
we have a limited capacity for stress
and by the way it is a stress like if you took i love this
example because it's funny we know exercise is good for us
but if we took uh you know if we took
medical devices and we measured blood pressure
inflammatory markers oh yeah we measured you know
what was happening to the body you'd rush them
to the hospital yeah and we didn't tell people
you're working out yeah like nobody knew they
would just saw all the markers they'd be like
what's going on right now this is not good
this person's undergoing a lot of stress well they're
actually training really hard yeah uh it is a stress
and you have a limited capacity for stress
um and it's important to understand all the things
that contribute to that we now individualize and
customize MAPS program we've never done this before
in the history of Mind Pump we've never
been able to customize a maps program for everybody that buys one
but we now have the software and we
have the trainers so here's what you do go
to my maps program.com and within one week you'll get
on a call with a real person a real Mind Pump trainer
who will deliver to you your own customized
workout program go to mymapsprogram.com back
to the show all right real quick if you love us like
we love you why not show it by rocking one of our shirts hats mugs
or training gear over at
mindpumpstore.com i'm talking right now hit pause head
on over to mindpumpstore.com that's it enjoy
the rest of the show so well there's a you have
a limited capacity of stress and then you also have
a limited capacity at which will elicit the change that you want
and desire from it because there's
there's a there's a a limit to what you can um handle
and then there's an appropriate or optimal
amount too right those are also different yeah 100
which we'll get to so to use the skin example
if I try to, if I'm trying to build a callus on the top of my hand,
what would happen if I rub
the skin too hard? I would just keep tearing.
I would just tear my hand up. I would just bleed.
Uh, and if I kept doing that, that's all
that would happen. I would never give my body the,
the, um, the, the chance, um, to adapt.
And we do have a limited capacity. By the way,
here's the things that contribute to this. Okay.
So exercise is a stress. It's a physical stress
in the body. Arguments with people is a stress.
Stress at work is a stress. Lack of sleep is a
stress. A poor diet is a stress. Inactivity can be a stress.
Too much activity is a lot of stress.
Lots of things can contribute to this.
And so this is why it's real important to understand
what you're working with.
Because if you're a 22-year-old kid and you don't have a job,
all you do is go to school. It's kind of easy.
You can sleep as long as you want. Your mom makes
your meals for you you don't got to really pay any bills
that's very different and you're young
it's very different than you're 42 years old you got bills you got
a job you got kids yeah you got
bad sleep because you know little timmy woke up last night twice
or whatever um and your diet
sometimes isn't as good plus you're 42 years old
it's very very different very very different we
also need to understand the difference between recovery
and adaptation so two different things
although there's a lot of overlap
so you hear a lot of talk about you need to recover how the
results you get are in the recovery kind of time,
uh, where you're resting, but recovery is healing.
Adaptation is above and beyond healing. Okay.
So people, uh, this is important to understand
because although there's overlap,
I can get to a place where, um, I'm giving my body time to
recover, but I don't give it enough time to adapt.
And what that can look like is in the example of
exercise is I get sore, I recover, I go to the gym,
I get sore, I recover, but with no, no real
improvements i'm using the same 30 pound dumbbells uh you know today
as i used six months ago
everything looks the same
when i go to the gym no there's no improvements well what's what but
i'm recovering but i'm really not adapting well
this is a this is a classic example what i was
alluding to right this is that you have you have
the ability to tolerate this workout but it's not
optimal for building muscle or burning body fat
so what happens is because you can tolerate it
and you're able to keep going
and doing it monday tuesday wednesday and you're like i'm fine i'm
I'm able to work out and do the things in my life.
You assume that it must be okay or better,
but the reality is you're stuck in this hard plateau
and your body isn't changing,
yet you're putting all this work in every single day.
And that's because it's not the optimal amount.
You're not allowing the body to adapt.
Yeah, it's really crazy too.
We would see this in gyms where,
you know, managing gyms over the years,
I would see these members in my gym
that would get on like cardio machines
and just work their butts off.
Like they'd come in and they'd sweat
and they were really trying hard
or they'd come and do the group classes group x classes
and intense and they work out they go
real hard and you know i'd manage these gyms for years
and so i got really familiar with my regular
members and you would see these people come in and out
and the same person showing up you know
four days a week there he is you know four days
a week there she is doing her thing and nothing
ever changed nothing ever changed they look
the same now they were able to tolerate the workout
they were able to do it but they weren't getting any leaner
their bodies weren't changing they were
really frustrated uh that they weren't changing
and they would come talk to me and even as a young
trainer i'd get perplexed like oh what's going
on why is this not working for this person
yeah it's different when you start looking
at the exercise more as the stimulus it's it's the one
that's like presenting uh this environment
that you're trying to overcome and and then you know
you're actually building uh in the rest periods
and you're you're building you know when you're
recovering when you're eating when you're sleeping
and uh and this is what's actually going to move you
forward so that's why i like playing with intensity matters
so much it's like where does that threshold
lie where can i fully recover and maximize
and then get past that healing phase where i can
actually adapt well and because of all
the other stresses you're talking about with sleep and it's
it's so easy to tip the other way that's right
because it's kind of a moving target it's not
like this fixed like oh this is the right amount
for me i can do this many days per week at this
intensity this many this much volume it's like maybe that week
and then you know like use your
time example and fight with the spouse
and you know demotion at work all back-to-back weeks and
it's just like that now changed and so you know this is why
and i mean obviously we're discussing
why seven days a week is uh not a good idea
but i mean this is why i think going the other direction
so much further you're better off doing almost
too little than doing too much and building on
that then you are thinking like oh
do more get better results earlier you talked about the perfect
dose versus the max tolerable dose i think a good way
to illustrate this would be like um you know
what's the perfect dose for you to have energy from caffeine
and then what's the most you could
possibly tolerate before you know you got to go
to the hospital what does that feel like one of
them gives you energy the other one makes you feel horrible
and you're shaky and you're like
Right. And so when it comes to exercise stress,
the perfect dose gets you the fastest results.
This is what, this is the challenge that people have
is they think that, well, if I get this many
results at this dose, then if I double the dose or triple the dose,
I'll get faster results. But
that's actually false. Uh,
it looks like a bell curve of results more than what is perfect. Uh,
now requires more recovery and allows for less adaptation yeah okay
so doing more than what is
ideal for your body i'll say that again doing more than
is ideal for your body requires more
recovery and allows for less adaptation
and what tends to happen with us is we push ourselves
because we think the more we do the better you try
to find that line and we find that line and
we end up doing the max tolerable dose
which is what we can recover from right but there's no
adaptations that are happening
and so we're kind of feeling burnt we're working hard we're in
between why am i not progressing how many times have you guys had
a client where you cut their
the workouts down and they got better results
yeah i mean how often does that happen it's
strange but we know that to be the case with a lot
of people that have that kind of mentality
and i think the two biggest metrics with that it's the strength
and the energy and so like
you know is your strength like similar
or moving forward you know that's always something i'm
paying attention to. If I don't feel like I have it some days,
I might be over doing it. I might
be overwhelming myself a bit.
I might not be recovering, you know, to the fullest degree,
but then also, you know, am I charged after my workouts?
People don't really consider that ever.
They want to crush the energy.
They want to really, you know, put it all and exert full,
full born into their workouts.
When in fact, a lot of times like, you know,
maintaining it. So you actually charge yourself up
and have energy is the way to go.
Well, I mean, using your bell curve analogy,
this is why I mean you're better off erring on the not enough
or a little less side than you are on the other side of the bell.
Let's say, based off my stress and levels, whatever,
and stuff that two days a week worth of volume
and intensity of workouts and training is on the lighter side for me.
Three, it's perfect and optimal.
Four, I'm on the other side of the bell curve.
i would argue i'm better being under at two than going
at four you got margin right yeah which is
so it's like so think about it that way like
that's if it looks like that where it's this
bell curve and three is like the but just
the right amount that's the right amount my body
will get the most results and i
then my body can tolerate to use or to reap the max benefits
and i'm better erring on the side of two that i
am going i'm gonna do even more at four yeah
because they'll get even set you back yes
so it's like i'm doing twice as much work to get less
less results than i would airing on the more cost side
which is hard for people to wrap their brain
around it is but here's there's two reasons
for that right one is uh the two days a week gives
you some margin for stress so do do things happen
in life yeah that you can't uh plan for necessarily
account for that you can't predict
that cause stress yes everybody listening right now knows
is that like you have your week you know what's going
to happen stuff pops up uh-oh extra stress
uh that i got to deal with or the bad night of sleep
or uh whatever so number one it gives you
more margin number two when you overdo it you got
to give your body time to heal so you can go back
in that perfect place
when i underdo it uh i can push a little harder if i need to so you're
absolutely right there's also the other argument
that you can make is that you you're not that you
definitely aren't going to go backwards
because that's right you're still progressing exactly
because that's, that's still enough volume
to maintain whatever you have accomplished in the
previous building. So it's not,
it's not like you're regressing. You know, we talk about the
studies that show that, you know, you need one seventh,
the amount of volume to maintain what
you've already built. So a week where I'm erring
on the cautious side of like, ah, you know,
bad sleep a couple of nights in a row.
It's been a rough week. It was like this, ah, this is,
this is the week where maybe I'll, I just, I mean,
I just went through this and let me tell you,
it is hard when you're in a,
when you're in a rhythm and you're, you're on, you're on your
game i'm dieting good i'm training good like i'm
actually i told you the other day like i'm like
i'm back to like thinking about my workouts before i go
to bed like i love that feeling it's a good
it's a good place to be but also a lot
of discipline to go man we just play two and a half
hours of pickleball i trained early
in that morning i've had multiple days where i'm burning
500 to a thousand more calories than what i'm used
to burning i'm just i was super active way
more than usual and i can feel how taxed my body i can feel it is taxed
but man but oh man tomorrow
is that day. I was going to hit this and I'm going
to do that. It's perfect because I don't
have to go to work and I can, to not train is hard.
It is. And so these are the factors that
you need to consider with your workouts
that you can manipulate to help you achieve the right dose,
right? So, and I'm going to list them in order of impact.
Meaning if I'm trying to reduce stress on
my body, I'm going to name three things
and I'm going to list them in order by which one of them
has the biggest impact on my body's ability to handle stress.
So here they are.
Intensity, duration, otherwise known as volume, and frequency.
Okay, so intensity is how hard you train.
That has the biggest impact on stress on your body.
To the point where you could train seven days a week
if you really knew how to modify this intensity.
Oh, then it turns into just activity, for example.
Or I could take someone off the street,
and in 10 minutes, I could send them to the hospital
if I train them hard enough, right?
So intensity has the biggest impact
on your body's ability to recover and adapt.
Next is duration or volume, the length of time,
the sets that you're doing,
all the exercises that you're doing in your workout.
And the last one is frequency, the amount of days that you work out.
You can play with those.
So to your example, Adam, you're like,
oh, I got two nights of bad sleep.
Boy, I'm really in the rhythm.
I want to go work out.
Can you go work out and dramatically reduce the intensity?
Probably can.
Could.
And you'll be fine.
Yeah. It would look more like a mobility
or 50% of the load I would normally take in. And that's
what it looks like. Something like that, right?
That's right. And so those are the things you
manipulate in order. In other words,
when I need to cut something down, let me cut the intensity
down first. And then after that, all right,
let me cut the length of my workout down next. And
then, okay, let me skip a whole workout
and get rid of that frequency. But it's in that order.
and those all three of those impact your body's ability to recover
and adapt but it's intensity
intensity is the one and this is the one
that people hammer the most yeah people actually
they're they're they're much more apt
when they're really dedicated like really like man i'm i really
want to get in shape like i'm gonna go beat
the crap out of myself well this is misconception
that intensity is really the only thing
that's gonna like build you know your muscle like it's
gonna break down your muscles
and when in fact yeah like all these other factors matter and the
The amount of volume matters.
The amount of frequency matters.
All that stuff is going to contribute to building muscle.
This is another reason why I think
the three-day-a-week full-body routine
hits so well for most people is it really kind of controls
a lot of this really well.
It's hard to do a full-body workout and go really intense
on all the muscle groups like that.
You know what I'm saying?
And you're obviously keeping the frequency down to three like that.
And then your only total volume
is a 50-minute to an hour type of workout.
So it controls a lot of those.
I think that's why.
Generally speaking, it's why it does so well.
well because it's there is an art to training seven days
a week like that's why when you gave
the first example was like super high level athletes
and guess what they're not programming
that ---- they've got and most
of those super high level have got HRVs hooked up to them they
got multiple coaches that are tracking
the whole year's already planned yes they are like they are
meticulous about how much they are pulling those pushing
and pulling those levers the average
person to try and gauge that.
And like I told you guys, even myself, I had a couple of these days
where my sleep score, I got good sleep,
but my readiness score was still really low. And it was
because I had just overtaxed my body multiple days in a row.
And so even myself, my gauge would be
like, oh, I got a good night's rest.
I should be good to go again. Let me get after it. Real hard
to gauge that and be on a day-to-day basis enough
to where you could actually go to the gym. And
we're saying seven right now,
but I'm going to make the case five to seven, like five to seven
days a week in the gym of workouts, hard, not necessary.
And it's counterproductive for most
people, especially if you're doing it for more than just a few weeks,
especially hard, hard to
know how to do that appropriately.
Now, when it comes to fitness, these are the adaptations that
you're going to chase, uh, with your workouts.
Okay. So we, we talked earlier about a high level
athlete, you know, when you're playing
a sport technique plays a huge role, right? You can't
just be fit. Like you can take a fit gym guy,
put them on the basketball court. He's not gonna play
basketball nearly as well as somebody who has a skill, right?
So aside from skill, forget that
we're talking about fitness.
You're looking at strength and there's, there's a range of strength,
right? There's maximal strength, there's strength,
you know, strength, endurance, there's, you know,
isometric strength but we're talking about strength
then there's stamina this is endurance
and there's different kinds of endurance right there's
the steady state endurance uh which is
like i'm running long distance there's the endurance that you get
or you need to repeatedly
exert yourself uh something like you would see
at a soccer uh soccer game or even football you
know requires a level of stamina because i gotta go hard
and then break and they're harder than
break type of deal and then you have something called mobility
which is your ability uh to move
stabilize your joints not hurt yourself essentially how you move
in space those are the three kind of
adaptations that you chase with your workout
so when you're thinking to yourself work out not
just activity activity just moving
but when you're thinking yourself work out think to yourself
what am i going after now if you think
to yourself build muscle well strength is going to be the main
thing if you're thinking fat loss that's mostly dietary
although i'll make the argument all day
long that chasing strength with a calorie deficit
or diet for fat loss preserves the most muscle.
But when it comes to the adaptations, strength, stamina, and mobility.
And here's what we're
going to do. For the first time ever,
we've never done this before, you can get your own customized
MAPS workout program.
So we have many, many different MAPS workout programs, but all of them
we wrote ourselves for a specific avatar,
whether you're a bodybuilder, whether you want mobility,
you want stamina, you want to work out at home, whatever.
We have all these different programs
that we created. We've never individualized a MAPS program until now.
So now what you can do
is you can go to mymapsprogram.com.
You fill out a questionnaire, then we're going to put together
an individualized MAPS program for you that a trainer
is going to overview and talk with you
about. So in seven days,
you have your own individualized MAPS workout program. So John,
if you're watching it's MAPS John, Susan it's MAPS Susan, it
is a program designed specifically for
you we've never done this before
this is the first time ever we finally have the software and the
trainers to be able to put this together
so if you're interested in an individualized MAPS program
a program designed specifically for you your goals
your lifestyle the exercise equipment you have
access to go to mymapsprogram.com we'll see you
there all right i know you liked that episode if
you did check this one out stop doing three sets of 12 to build muscle
and do this instead you guys
want to guess stop doing the three sets of 12
and do this instead uh with that intro my guess is
you're going to tell people to change the rep range up
to yeah five by five or low rep range
you guys remember when you're going yeah
so um oftentimes we get stuck in like a set count
and a rep count or a range that's.