Mike Benz argues that the political and institutional struggle he describes will not end within our lifetimes, regardless of what can be accomplished in four years.
Speaking at CPAC, Benz discusses entrenched institutions, USAID, NGOs, censorship, and what he sees as an increasingly international political struggle. He argues that developments in Europe, Brazil, Hungary, Slovakia, and the United Kingdom make international cooperation increasingly important, while ending on a message of optimism and continued vigilance.
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So, trying to read between the lines, are you saying that combination of all these amazing
people, Donald Trump, Elon Musk, Ulsi Gabbard, and all these amazing people that are stepping
up and being great.
I'd like to add Cashtell to that list, Pam Bond.
Are you saying that if we get the first couple of steps right, that the bad guys will realize
we're not going to stop, and they'll actually start changing their behavior rather quickly?
Or is that kind of like Lucy with the football, and they're going to kind of hide, wait, and
go right back to being bad, and we've got to just kind of mow through the whole agency
after agency and move on from there?
To be clear, this struggle is not going to end in our lifetimes, no matter how many successes
we get in four years.
The institutional interests are too deeply entrenched.
The money on the line is too great for many of these institutions and donors to feel like
they would lose if they had to actually do what the American people voted for.
But the fact is, many of them, the worst excesses can be excised, and the remainder can be brought
to the negotiating table.
But at this point, one of the main concerns is the international picture.
The MAGA movement started as a nationalist movement, but the international picture from
USAID and the rogue activities of the former State Department and the intelligence community,
they're one thing.
But here at this conference, we've seen heads of state and people from almost all populated
continents coming to this conference to say that we are together, and the opposition is
going to be doing the same on the other side.
The censors in exile will be running to Europe, and the in-power governments with the UK Labor
Party and in France, they will be forming a coalition to try to use the weaponized powers
of foreign governments that they have lost over our Justice Department and our regulatory
bodies here, which is why it is so important that this unity movement is international
and takes that international lens, because one of my concerns is that while they've lost
their grip over the Justice Department and potentially may lose that over the NGOs, the
European Union, governments in Brazil, governments in Central Asia and Central and Eastern Europe
will all try to band together.
You ever see that meme of a minnow and a shark, and then the minnows all get together and
they look bigger than the shark?
That's where we are right now.
And the thing to watch for is what happens when the sharks all join together to form
this super shark, and I think that's what we're seeing now with the forces against
places like Slovakia and Hungary and the forces trying to destabilize their governments, as
well as what's happening in the UK with people being, you know, when they're rising to power
they get arrested for clicking the like button on a tweet.
But we have to bring the whole world up with us.
That's right.
And so I guess that would be my final question, which is, I don't know, we should all feel
so happy and joyful.
They said they had joy.
By the way, I've never met a joyful communist ever, except for the guy who's in charge.
They usually have at least some degree of pleasure.
I don't know if it's joy.
Well, Matt, I would say sometime between 10 p.m. and midnight, when they start drinking,
that was, that's the worst part.
That's called numbing.
That's not really joy.
But the, so I guess the question I'd have for you is, the more you read, the more you
can get awfully depressed.
The more you know, the more you realize this has been a giant struggle that you said for
a hundred years could go on, a hundred years.
For a while here, I thought I didn't know if we'd have a hundred years left, and I thought
they had folded up their pup tent.
You talk about all these people here from overseas, you can't walk down these hallways
without hearing all these accents, right?
People from all these countries, people who felt so desperate in their own countries.
And then Trump wins, which is, your guys win, too, because you did a lot of the work.
My perception is a lot of powerful people around the world are permanently turning away
from a leftward drift and embracing this idea that you can be for freedom and be politically
successful.
And there's a great political benefit to exposing all of this corruption, all of this propaganda,
all of this lie.
Is that too optimistic?
Or do you think it's where we are?
I think that's exactly where things are heading.
I've heard the same thing, and I think everyone is inspired.
Just as you said, I think we really were on the brink of losing it all, and maybe forever.
And a lot of countries under the thumb of authoritarian rule, or that are being rolled
up by their own versions of their justice department, or tarnished by co-opted press,
or censored into oblivion, they feel as hopeless as the American people felt six months ago,
four months ago.
And, you know, it's just like the symbol of the chainsaw and the samurai sword.
There's something very powerful to the difference between prison and president, the difference
between this being life or death.
The millimeter miracle.
It's a literal shot across the bow.
So we're hearing optimism from you.
I like it.
If I may defend myself.
I wanted to give you one more shot to really clarify things.
Vigilance is eternal on this.
Take a vacation if you feel you need to, drink your champagne, if you're an Eagles fan, you
know, do a little touchdown dance, but then get right back to work.
Get right back to work.
Are we going to do that?
Are we going to get right back to work?
Thank you, Mike.
Thanks for being with us.
We appreciate it.