This is a audio recording/book of Religions of Ancient China, Chapter 4 - Materialism by Herbert Allen Giles. From 1902.
An overview of the religions of China, beginning with Fu Hsi, B.C. 2953-2838, and continuing through the 19th Century.
Herbert Allen Giles (1845-1935) spent several years as a diplomat in China and in 1897 was appointed Cambridge University’s second professor of Chinese. His published works cover Chinese language and literature, history and philosophy.
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Chapter 4. Materialism.
Yang Xiong was a philosopher who flourished B.C. 53 to A.D. 18.
He taught that the nature of man at birth is neither good nor evil,
but a mixture of both, and that development
in either direction depends wholly upon environment.
To one who asked about God, he replied, What have I to do with God?
Watch how without doing anything he does all things. To another
who said, Surely it is God who fashions and adorns all earthly forms,
he replied, not so.
If God in an earthly sense were to fashion and adorn all things,
his strength would not be adequate to the task.
Wang Chong, A.D. 27-97, denies that men after
death live again as spiritual beings on earth.
Animals, he argues, do not become spirits after
death. Why should man alone undergo this change?
That which informs man at birth is vitality,
and at death this vitality is extinguished.
Vitality is produced by the pulsations of the
blood. When these cease, vitality is extinguished.
The body decays and becomes dust. How can it
become a spirit?
When a man dies, his soul ascends to heaven, and his bones return,
kwei, to earth. Therefore he is spoken of as a disembodied spirit,
kwei, the latter word really
meaning that which has returned vitality becomes humanity just
as water becomes ice the ice melts
and is water again man dies
and reverts to spirituality the spirits which people see are
invariably in the form of human beings
and that very fact is enough of itself to prove that these
apparitions cannot be the souls of dead men if a sack
is filled with grain it will stand up and is
obviously a sack of grain.
But if the sack is burst and the grain falls out, then it collapses
and disappears from view.
Now, man's soul is enfolded in his body as grain in a sack. When he
dies, his body decays and his vitality is dissipated.
And if when the grain is taken away
the sack loses its form, why, when the vitality is gone,
should the body obtain a new shape in
which to appear again in the world?
The number of persons who have died since the world began,
old, middle-aged and young, must run into thousands of millions,
far exceeding the number of persons
alive at the present day.
If every one of these has become a disembodied spirit, there must be
at least one to every yard as we walk along the road,
and those who die now must suddenly find
themselves face to face with vast crowds of spirits,
filling every house and street. People
say that spirits are the souls of dead men.
That being the case, spirits should always appear naked,
for surely it is not contended that clothes have souls as well as men.
It can further be shown,
not only that dead men never become spirits,
but also that they are without consciousness,
by the fact that before birth they are without consciousness.
Before birth man rests in the
first cause. When he dies he goes back to the first cause.
The first cause is vague and without
form, and man's soul is there in a state of unconsciousness.
At death the soul reverts to
its original state, how then can it possess consciousness?
As a matter of fact, the universe
is full of disembodied spirits,
but these are not the souls of dead men. They are beings only of the
mind, conjured up for the most part in sickness,
when the patient is especially subject to fear.
For sickness introduces fear of spirits.
Fear of spirits causes the mind to dwell upon them,
and thus apparitions are produced.
Another writer enlarges on the view that
kwei disembodied spirit is the same as kwei to return
at death a man's soul returns to heaven his flesh to earth
his blood to water his blood-vessels to marshes his voice
to thunder his motion to the wind his sleep to the sun and moon
his bones to trees his muscles to hills his teeth to stones
his fat to dew his hair to grass while his breath returns
to man there was a certain philosopher named Chin Mi
died A.D. 226, whose services were much required by the king of Wu,
who sent an envoy to fetch him.
The envoy took upon himself to chastise
the philosopher with the following result.
You are engaged in study, are you not?
asked the envoy. Any slip of a boy may be that,
replied Jin. Why not I? Has God a head?
said the envoy. He has, was the reply. Where is he?
was the next question. In the west.
The odes say, he gazed fondly on the west.
from which it is to be inferred that his head was in the west has
god got ears god sits on high replied chin but hears the lowly
the odes say the crane cries in the marsh and its cry is heard by god
If he had not ears, how could he hear it? Has God feet? asked the envoy
He has, replied Jin. The Odes say the steps of God
are difficult. This man does not follow them. If he had
no feet, how could he step? Has God a surname? inquired the envoy
And if so, what is it? He has a surname, said Jin
And it is Liu. How do you know that? rejoined the other
The surname of the emperor, who is the son of heaven, is Liu, replied Jin
And that is how I know it. These answers we are told came as quickly
as echo after sound. A writer of the ninth century AD, when reverence
for the one god of ancient China had been to a great extent weakened
by the multiplication of inferior deities
tells a story of how this god, whose name was Liu, had been replaced
by another god whose name was Chang. The Xing Ying Sai Lu has
the following story: there was once a very poor scholar
who made it his nightly practice to burn incense and pray to God
One evening he heard a voice from above saying, God has
been touched by your earnestness and has sent me
to ask what you require. I wish, replied the scholar, for clothes
and food coarse if you will sufficient for my necessities in this life
and to be able to roam free from care among the mountains
and streams until I complete my allotted span. That is all, all cried
the voice amid peals of laughter from the clouds
Why, that is the happiness enjoyed by the spirits in heaven.
You can't have that. Ask rather for
wealth and rank. It has already been stated
that the Chinese imagination has never conceived of
an evil one, deliverance from whom might be secured by prayer.
The existence of evil in
the abstract has however received some attention.
Wei Tao Tzu asked Hui Li Tzu, saying, Is it true
that God loves good and hates evil. It is, replied you.
In that case, rejoined Wei, goodness should
abound in the empire, and evil should be scarce.
Yet among birds, kites and falcons outnumber
phoenixes. Among beasts, wolves are many and unicorns are few.
Among growing plants, thorns
are many and cereals are few.
Among those who eat cooked food and stand erect, the wicked are many
and the virtuous are few.
And in none of these cases can you say that the latter are evil and
the former good, can it be possible that what man regards as evil,
God regards as good, and vice
versa? Is it that God is unable to determine
the characteristics of each, and lets each follow its
own bent and develop good or evil accordingly?
If he allows good men to be put upon, and evil men
to be a source of fear, is not this to admit that God has his likes
and dislikes? From old until now,
times of misgovernment have always exceeded times of right government,
and when men of principle
have contended with the ignoble, the latter have usually won.
Where then is God's love of good and
hatred of evil? Hui Li Tzu had no answer to make.
The Tan Yan Tsai Lu says, If the people are
contented and happy, God is at peace in his mind.
When God is at peace in his mind, the two great
motive powers act in harmony.
The Pai Chiao says, The Empyrean above you is not God, it is but his
outward manifestation, that which remains ever fixed in man's heart,
and which rules over all
things without cease, that is God.
Alas, you earnestly seek God in the blue sky, while forgetting
him altogether in your hearts.
Can you expect your prayers to be answered? This view, for behold,
the kingdom of God is within you, St. Luke,
chapter 17, verse 21, has been brought out by
the philosopher Shao Yong, A.D. 1011-1077,
in the following lines, The heavens are still,
no sound. Where then shall God be found?
Search not in distant skies. In man's own heart he lies.
Han Wen Kong, A.D. 768-824, the eminent philosopher,
poet, and statesman, who suffered
banishment for his opposition to the Buddhist religion,
complains that, Of old there was but
one faith, now there are three,
meaning Confucianism, Buddhism, and Taoism. He thus
pictures the simplicity of China's ancient kings.
Their clothes were of cloth or of silk. They dwelt
in palaces or in ordinary houses.
They ate grain and vegetables and fruit and fish and flesh.
Their method was easy of comprehension.
Their doctrines were easily carried into practice.
Hence their lives passed pleasantly away,
a source of satisfaction to themselves,
a source of benefit to mankind.
At peace within their own hearts, they readily adapted themselves
to the necessities of the family and of the state.
Happy in life, they were remembered after death.
Their sacrifices were grateful to the God of heaven,
and the spirits of the departed rejoiced
in the honors of ancestral worship.
His mind seems to have been open on the subject of a future state.
In a lamentation on the death of a favorite nephew, he writes,
If there is knowledge after death,
the separation will be but for a little while.
If there is no knowledge after death,
so will this sorrow be but for a little while,
and then no more sorrow for ever.
His views as to the existence of spirits
on this earth were not very logical.
If there is whistling among the rafters,
and I take a light but fail to see anything,
is that a spirit? It is not, for spirits are soundless.
If there is something in the room, and I look for it but cannot see it,
is that a spirit? It is not. Spirits are formless.
If something brushes against me,
and I grab at it, but do not seize it, is that a spirit?
It is not. For if spirits are soundless
and formless, how can they have substance?
If then spirits have neither sound nor form nor
substance, are they consequently non-existent?
Things which have form without sound exist in
nature. For instance, earth and stones.
Things which have sound without form exist in nature.
for instance, wind and thunder,
things which have both sound and form exist in nature,
for instance, men and animals,
and things which have neither sound nor form also exist in nature,
for instance, disembodied spirits and angels.
For his own poetical spirit, according to the
funeral elegy written some two hundred and fifty years after his death,
a great honor was reserved.
Above in heaven there was no music, and God was sad,
and summoned him to his place beside the
throne. His friend and contemporary, Liu Sung Yuan,
a poet and philosopher like himself, was tempted
into the following reflections by the contemplation
of a beautiful landscape which he discovered far
from the beaten track. Now, I have always had
my doubts about the existence of a god, but this scene
made me think he really must exist.
At the same time, however, I began to wonder why he did not
place it in some worthy center of civilization,
rather than in this out-of-the-way, barbarous
region, where for centuries there has been no one to enjoy its beauty,
and so, on the other hand,
such waste of labor and incongruity
of position disposed me to think that there could not be a
God after all. In A.D. 1008,
there was a pretended revelation from God, in the form of a letter,
recalling the letter from Christ on the neglect of the Sabbath,
mentioned by Roger of Wendover
and Holviden, contemporary chroniclers.
The emperor and his court regarded this communication
with profound awe, but a high official of the day said,
I have learnt, from the Confucian
discourses, that God does not even speak,
how then should he write a letter? The philosopher
and commentator, Chu Tsai, A.D. 1030-1200,
whose interpretations of the Confucian canon
are the only ones now officially recognized,
has done more than anyone since Confucius himself
to dissimilate a rigid materialism among his fellow countrymen.
The God of the canon is
explained away as an eternal principle.
The phenomena of the universe are attributed to
nature, with its absurd personification
so commonly met with in Western writers.
And spirits are generally associated
with the perfervid imaginations of sick persons and
enthusiasts. Is consciousness dispersed after death,
or does it still exist? said an inquirer.
It is not dispersed, replied Chu Tsi. It is at an end.
When vitality comes to an end,
consciousness comes to an end with it.
He got into more trouble over the verse quoted on page 16.
King Wen is on high, in glory, in heaven.
His comings and his goings are to and from the
presence of God. If it is asserted, he argued,
that King Wen was really in the presence of God,
and that there really is such a being as God,
he certainly cannot have the form in which he
is represented by the clay or wooden images in vogue.
Still, as these statements were made by
the prophets of old, there must have been some foundation for them.
There is, however,
a certain amount of inconsistency in his writings on the supernatural,
for in another passage he
says, When God is about to send down calamities upon us,
He first raises up the hero whose genius
shall finally prevail against those calamities.
Sometimes he seems to be addressing the educated
Confucianist, at other times
the common herd whose weaknesses have to be taken into account.
End of chapter 4