News24 host Rowan Dean accuses US Vice President JD Vance of “populism” with his flip-flopping tactics on US President Donald Trump.
“JD Vance was very anti-Trump, likening him to Hitler at one stage, when it was cool to be anti-Trump, and then magically pro-Trump when it was cool to be pro-Trump," Mr Dean said.
“He’s now in the process, or it appears to be, of distancing himself from Trump again.
“Trump should never have listened to JD Vance and pursued that ridiculous ceasefire and peace negotiations with Iran.” Đặt câu hỏi
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The speaker argues that Donald Trump was correct in his hardline stance against the Iranian regime and criticizes J.D. Vance and influential right-wing podcasters for pushing a \"populist,\" anti-war agenda. The speaker contends that pursuing peace negotiations with Iran was a mistake and that the influence of media personalities like Tucker Carlson has negatively impacted Trump's political standing.
Trump was correct then and Trump is correct now.
Destroying the Iranian regime is the right thing to do
and the very opposite of the populist thing to do.
If Trump were a populist, he never would
have launched the war in the first place.
But I'll tell you who can be accused
of so-called populism, in my humble opinion,
and that is his vice president, J.D. Vance.
J.D. Vance was very anti-Trump,
likened him to Hitler at one stage, when it was cool to
be anti-Trump, and then magically pro-Trump
when it was cool to be pro-Trump, and he's
now in the process of, or it appears to be,
of distancing himself from Trump again.
Arguably, that's populism right there.
In my humble opinion, and I said this all
the way back in April, Trump should never
have listened to J.D. Vance
and pursued that ridiculous ceasefire and peace negotiations
Trump listened to Vance when he should instead have been listening
to Pete Hegseth and Marco Rubio.
Instead of going in hard and finishing off Iran
when the mullahs and the IRGC were at their very weakest,
demoralised, delegitimised, shocked, impotent,
Trump caved in to the J.D. Vance school of thought
and let Vance toddle off to Pakistan
to launch the absolutely idiotic memorandum
of understanding peace talks.
We've been at it now for 21 hours
and we've had a number of substantive discussions with
the Iranians. That's the good news.
The bad news is that we have not reached an agreement.
And I think that's bad news for Iran much more
than it's bad news for the United States of
America. No, J.D., you got it the wrong way around.
The whole thing was very good news
for Iran and very bad news for America and the rest of the world.
I said here on this show at the time
that the April ceasefire was a disastrous decision.
It gave the mullahs the upper hand,
which they have exploited ever since, gave them
a platform, made them look powerful,
which is fatal in the Middle East, and worse, set
up an impossible goal for Donald Trump,
a kumbaya deal, a peace deal with the most evil
and messianic religious cult on earth.
As I have said repeatedly,
there is only one way this ends, and that is either
With the Iranian fanatics achieving their goal
and wiping Israel and ultimately the West off the map
or with the Iranian people rising up
and throwing out the Islamic Republic.
Take your pick.
There ain't no kumbaya alternative.
When an Iranian uprising failed to take off in March,
Trump and Netanyahu should have gone in harder.
Instead, to all intents and purposes, they capitulated to the regime,
and the key driver
and architect of that disastrous decision was J.D. Vance.
The equivalent would have been if halfway through the Falklands War,
after the sinking of the Belgrano, Thatcher had said,
you know what, let's all go home now
and I'll leave it to Sir Geoffrey Howe
to write up a memorandum of understanding with the Argentinians.
But J.D. Vance was not working alone.
He had several extraordinary influential fellow travellers
who shared his populist, anti-war, anti-Israel,
anti-Netanyahu instincts fellow travellers
by the name of Tucker Carlson, Megyn Kelly and Candace Owens.
Along with railing against the war,
the three of them aggressively turned on Donald Trump,
almost on cue, and disgracefully, in my opinion,
allowed their antipathy towards Israel and Benjamin Netanyahu
to spill over into what came a little too close
to old-school anti-Semitism for my liking.
For sure, it is legitimate to question the influence
of Israeli politics on American politics and vice versa.
Netanyahu himself had decided U.S. aid needed to stop going to Israel.
But that is a world away from constantly inferring
some kind of Protocols of the Elders of Zion-style conspiracy
where the Jews and Jewish money controls Trump and controls America.
Equally and possibly more significantly,
There are many questions that need to be asked about the role of Qatar
and Qatari or other
Arab money in buying influence amongst American institutions,
media personalities and politicians.
In recent times, I would go so far as to say much of the commentary,
especially from Carlson
and Owens, is downright unhinged.
Just my opinion.
Here, for instance, is Carlson repeatedly telling
his 23 million listeners that Donald
Trump was threatening nuclear war.
We're moving toward the use of weapons
of indiscriminate mass destruction, possibly
nuclear weapons.
Everything hangs in the balance right now.
This is not hysteria.
This is 100% real.
You have the president of the United States,
whatever they tell you, openly threatening
the use of nuclear weapons in a conflict that has no...
immediate or obvious resolution. So where is that going? Well, toward
a nuclear strike. The option has been floated
of using what are called tactical nuclear weapons
against, say, Karg Island or Pickaxe Mountain
or various spots within Iran. And we're here
to confirm that that is absolutely true.
Trump has threatened nuclear war because
the president of the United States just threatened a nuclear strike.
Nonsense. And then there was this disgusting slur stated
with zero evidence and in direct
contradiction of all the evidence heard
in the Charlie Kirk pretrial courtroom.
He was not murdered for his opinions on transgenderism, obviously.
He was, I believe,
and most people who knew him well as I did
and was friends with him as I was,
believe he was most likely murdered for his evolving views on Israel.
Simply disgusting. And yet J.D. Vance refuses
to distance himself from Tucker Carlson,
making this vague comment as recently as only two months ago.
Everybody knows that Tucker Carlson and I are friends.
And I think it's very obvious that
Tucker has said some things that I disagree with.
He said some things about the president
of the United States that I think are just wrong.
However, consider this, when Donald Trump won in 2024,
he had been ably assisted by over nine
months of solid support and constant campaigning day in,
day out from those three podcasters who
counted themselves as close friends of Donald Trump's.
Both Carlson and Kelly proudly spoke
at Trump's rallies and eagerly bathed in the glory of his victory.
After the 2024 victory,
Many pundits and those podcasters themselves claimed credit.
For the size of Trump's landslide win,
especially among younger, so-called cool voters.
Now, these same individuals wallowed gleefully
in denigrating Donald Trump,
and some have urged their audiences to vote against him.
On top of which, back in 2024, Trump also had the campaigning skills
and support of the brilliant Charlie Kirk,
who was then tragically assassinated.
So Charlie Kirk was completely absent at this election,
although his organisation, Turning Point USA, still supports Trump.
I've always said populism simply means popularity,
and I would argue the world of podcasting is self-evidently susceptible
to pandering to populism or popularity,
especially when people's influence, and more importantly,
the influence of their opinions, is not only monetised,
but is clearly measurable in their ratings.
Anyone can, of course, change their mind,
and we should all be prepared
to do so when there is overwhelming evidence.
But the king and queens of US podcasting appear
to do so with alarming frequency.
Here's Megyn Kelly, for instance,
on the topic of Russell Brand in 2023,
calling him a scumbag, now calling him sweet and charming.
If he doesn't deny that wholesale, I am done with this scumbag.
He came here, I was totally charmed by him, I'm not gonna lie,
as I was when he came on my show at NBC.
Utterly charming guy, sweet, interesting, funny.
And I had a very difficult time believing
that he was capable of rape, as I do right now.
I don't believe these charges. I'm going to be honest. I don't.
Of course, as I said, anyone can change their mind. Got all that.
But when your audience is as massive as some of these podcasters,
you will also be changing many other minds, rightly or wrongly.
So let's look at some numbers to put
that sort of influence into perspective.
These numbers are approximations,
Let me stress that, but they serve to make my point.
The combined reach of Tucker Carlson,
Megyn Kelly and Candace Owen is around 44 million.
Charlie Kirk's reach in 2024 was around a staggering 120 million.
Now, there's obviously overlap
and audience numbers go up and down, yada, yada, yada.
But for argument's sake,
especially when you throw in some of the others.
Into the mix, let's say there are around 150 million non-woke,
reasonably normal,
everyday, vaguely conservative folk
who are being urged to vote for Trump in 2024
by these influential influencers
and then less than two years later being urged to vote against
Trump or, in the case of Charlie Kirk, simply absent.
That's a lot of negative influence.
So how many people voted for the Democrats in these midterms?
Roughly 125 million people,
which is fewer than the Carlson, Kelly, Candace,
Charlie audience combined. And what sort of people, you may ask?
Well, here's one of them, although I
can't help thinking this is a spoof.
I woke up this morning and
And these women
certainly
celebrated
the victory.
And then there are girls like this,
so I imagine couldn't wait to get out and join the blue tsunami
The theory that Trump lives
and then died by being a populist is absurd.
Yes, populist influences helped bring him to power,
but it was Trump defying populism,
ignoring the siren populist voices of the podcasters
that turned voters away from Trump.
Iran was the number one issue among voters,
coupled with the asinine idea of the relationship
with Israel, according to exit polls,
and it's not surprising that they were also the
key obsessions of the so-called woke right podcasters.
I say asinine because Netanyahu had already said he wanted
to end USAID to Israel and
Trump agreed, although too late for it to make any difference.
The so-called woke right podcasters used
their astonishing influence to turn people against Trump
because he didn't do the populist thing.
He did what he thought was right.
Trump stood by his principles, and he is still standing by them.
He's lost the war. Lost last night was the war in Iran.
Well, I think it's largely true
because it drove the gasoline up a little bit short term.
And probably that's, probably it's true.
But at the same time, if I had it to do again, I'd have to do it again.
Because long term, it's the only answer.
You can't let Iran have a nuclear weapon
And I, for one, applaud him for that.
And it is incumbent upon those who disagree,
rather than spreading lies about nuclear weapons
or trying to formulate idiotic memoranda of understanding,
to actually spell out what they would do about Iran.
And if the answer is do nothing and cross your fingers
or engage in factious peace talks,
then I'm afraid that's simply not good enough.
Fortunately, while J.D. Vance has shown his true colors
and is turning away from Trump again, Marco Rubio,
who I fervently hope will be the next U.S. president,
is standing firmly behind Trump and the war against Iran
because it is the right thing to do.