IS PETE MARAVICH the BASKETBALL GOAT?

[Music] but I don't know I don't know here's our Dark Horse I'm going to throw this in here I am not I'm not saying that this player is the greatest of all time I'm just going to throw this out there where does Pistol Pete marovich fall into the greatest of alltime debate so Pistol Pete marovich is not even that well known to those outside of Hardcore fans in basketball this was a guy I mean he played in in before Jordan well before Jordan he played in college 1967 to 1970 he is still the alltime leading scorer in the NCAA with 3,000 667 points anybody want to take a guess what his points per game average was it's 44.2 that's his average in college keep in mind back in those days freshman could not play on the varsity team so in three years of college Pete maravic is the all-time leading scorer with one year less than all the other players and it gets crazier that's without a three-point line so all of his threes counted as twos regardless of where he shot from and he shot from from a distance he shot from outside a lot so imagine that just for a moment so he only has 3,667 points counted so he would have scored well over 4,000 points with a three so again we have to do apples to apples comparisons so let's just do the quick let's just do a quick rundown of Pistol Pete Maravich for those that don't know born June 22nd 1947 died January 5th 1988 known by his nickname Pistol Pete was an american professional basketball player marovich was born in alipa Pennsylvania part of the Pittsburgh metropolitan area and raised in the Carolinas Maravich stared in college at Louisiana State University's Tigers basketball team his father press marovich was the team's head coach Pete marovich is the alltime NCAA division 1 scorer with 3,667 points scored and an average of 44.2 points per game wow all of his achievements were achieved before the adoption of the three-point line and shot clock and despite being unable to play varsity as a freshman under then NCAA rules he played for three NBA teams until injuries forced his retirement in 1980 following following a 10-year professional career one of the youngest players ever inducted into the nouth memorial Basketball Hall of Fame marovic was considered to be one of the greatest creative offensive talents ever and one of the best ball handlers of all time he died suddenly at age 40 during a pickup game in 1988 as a consequence of an undetected heart defect he was 6'5 97 lbs career highlights he was a five-time NBA Allstar 7 74 77 through 79 two time all NBA first team 7677 two time all NBA second team 7378 NBA all rookie first team uh in 71 scoring champion 77 NBA 50th Anniversary team NBA 75th Anniversary team number 44 retired by Atlanta Hawks number seven retired by Utah Jazz number seven retired by New Orleans Pelicans two-time national college player of the year 69 and 70 three-time consensus first team All-American 68 through 70 three time sec Player of the Year 68-70 three-time NCAA scoring leader 68-70 NCAA division 1 alltime leading scorer and okay so his career stats he's got 15,940 points this is from in the NBA 24.2 average 2747 rebounds 4.2 average assist 3563 5.4 average so just to illustrate this guy's shooting ability I'm going to read this article I mean it's a few years old it's by Shane asadera on sport. one the better scorer Pete marovich or Steph Curry ever since he was in college Curry has been compared to the great Pete marovich the main reason for the comparison is Curry's ability as a pure scorer Curry led the nation in scoring during his final season at Davidson and his scoring outbursts were often likened to the ones produced by the man they called pistol in the 1960s marovich led the nation in scoring in each of his three seasons at LSU the pistol is considered as one of the greatest offensive talents the game of basketball has ever seen no one has been able to score in college like Pistol Pete did not even Curry when he played in the NBA though it became a different story while marovich led the NBA in scoring once in his career he never averaged the same ridiculous numbers in the big league still he was one of the best scorers of his era Curry meanwhile is one of the NBA's top Gunners he and backourt partner Thompson have been dubbed as the Splash Brothers because of their ability to put points on the board Curry is considered as one of the greatest shooters ever if not the greatest given his range and accuracy but is he the better scorer than Pete marovich different role book Steven Curry is is the best pure shooter today and is perhaps the best we've seen in this generation but before we put him on the same NCAA pedestal as Pete marovich let us remember first that back in the 60s college basketball had a different rule book if you watch pistol Pet's highlights at Louisiana state notice that there there is no three-point arc on the basketball court yep every basket that marovic scored was just worth two points whether he shot the ball from 20 30 to even 40 ft away from the hoop in the absence of the three-point line the absence of the three-point line didn't stop Pete marovic from hoisting up long-distance bombs he just kept on shooting the leather and scored almost at will given that he averaged 44.2 points per game at LSU we can only imagine what his scoring average would have been there have been a three-point line back then over 50 benefiting from the three-point shot on the other hand Steven curry thrived with a three-point shot in three seasons at Davidson Curry averaged four point four three-pointers per made per game considering he averaged just 4.42 Point makes per outing Curry virtually lived by the three-pointer 54% of his shot attempts per game were for Beyond The Arc and with him making 412 of his trifectas he became a super scorer in college this brings us to our next Point even with the three-point line Steven Curry only averaged 25.3 points per game during his collegiate career we said only because Pete marovich averaged an astounding 44.2 points per game during his three years at LSU that's almost a 20 point scoring difference per game in favor of Pistol Pete without the benefit of the three-point line as we said we can only imagine Pistol Pete's scoring average would have been had there been a three-pointer during his time but on the other hand we can compute Steven Curry's college scoring average without the benefit of the three-point shot that would be a better comparison not on the same level curry made four three-pointers per game on average that meant he scored an extra four points per game because of the three-point shot take that number away from his college career scoring average of 25.3 and that would result to a 213 Point per game SC scoring average that's just half of what Pistol Pete scored per game that that's one hell of a difference right there if you translate that to college career point totals Pete marovic still tops Steven Curry even if the latter played in more collegate games than pistol Steph scored 1,32 fewer points than pistal Pete in 21 more games played Curry never scored at least a thousand points in a single NCAA season marovich topped the 1,000 point mark in each of his three years in college marovic is the all-time leading scorer in college basketball history in the top 10 only he and Oscar Robertson played in less than four years and appeared in less than a 100 games Robertson's 33.8 Collegiate scoring average was the closest to maravich's numbers and it was even more than 10 points fewer Curry isn't even in the top 25 of the NCAA scoring list but that's because he played in just three seasons While most of the players on the that list played out their eligibility among the 25 Collegiate scorers only marovic Robertson Elvin Hayes and Larry Bird played in three seasons so for curry to be close to the company of these Hall of Famers speaks a huge deal about his scoring prowess it's just not in Pistol Pete's level closer in the pros while marovic vers Curry is a mismatch individually in college the same cannot be said in the Pro ranks if we put them on equal footing using per 36 minute averages m is at 23.6 points per game while Curry is at 24.0 points per game again marovic supporters would point at Curry's career average of 3.5 three-pointers per game as the reason hence giving Pistol Pete a slight scoring average Edge over Steph Curry excluding pistol's 1980 postseason appearance with the Celtics his playoff scoring average was 2547 points per game Curry meanwhile is a career 26.2 including 4.2 three-pointers made per game again even if we subtract the three-point shooting difference there isn't too much disparity between the two but still marovich would have the slightly better scoring numbers but while Pistol Pete may have better scoring numbers than Curry marovich never played alongside three other Allstars on his team Curry currently shares the floor not only with Splash brother Klay Thompson and Draymond Green but also with Kevin Durant who is one of the most gifted offensive players of any generation playing Durant has taken some of the scoring load off Curry as a proof Curry averaged a career-high 30.1 points per game the season before Durant arrived since Durant began playing for the Warriors Steph's scoring as well as his shot attempts have naturally dropped even before Durant came Curry had to share the ball with Thompson AG greed making it not impossible for him to score as he pleased the better scorer so who is the better scorer in the college ranks a comparison between the two is blasphemy in the NBA it's pretty even except that if Pistol Pete had the three-point line he he could have easily outscored Curry by a significant margin the NBA first introduced the three-point line during Pistol Pete's final and injury plague NBA season where he played Just 43 games split between Utah and Boston marovich took a total of 15 three-pointers during the season and he made 10 of them for a 67% 3point shooting average while 15 may not be a gauge of how he would have shot had he had the three-point Arc during his NBA career it was an indication of how good an outside shooter marovic was and how good a three-point shooter he would have been whether he would have been better than Curry from Beyond The Arc or not we will never know and we can only imagine but the point here is the three-point shot would have given would have given marovic an extra window to boost his scoring output just as it has boosted Curry's numbers another thing to consider which people don't really consider too much is Pistol Pete was simply ahead of his time by a lot nobody really really had the style of play I mean Pistol Pete was I mean I'm not comparing them overall just in terms of style of play Pistol Pete was like the Jordan of his era in terms of nobody had that kind of trick style super athletic coordinated style that Jordan kind of made famous and and Magic Johnson to an extent as well but Pistol Pete was kind of like the OG and he just was Unstoppable his accuracy was just incredible his game IQ incredible the thing is he didn't really care about defense so he can't ever touch Jordan on defense but a lot of his teammates didn't understand his style of play they they just weren't prepared for his style of passing he had all these trick passes and all these things they couldn't handle it so that of course did not lead to team success in the NBA regarding Pistol Pete marovich now comparing seasons and for those who think it's Blasphemous in his 7677 season with the NBA he led the league in scoring averaging 31.1 points per game he scored 40 points or more in 13 games and 50 or more in four games his 68o Masterpiece against the Knicks was at the time the most points ever scored by a guard in a single game and only two players at any other position had scored more wil Chamberlin and elen Baylor Baylor was actually the head coach of the Jazz at the time now Mike so this was unbroken until Michael Jordan who actually did it eight times starting in his 86 87 season and then Kobe Bryant also did it as well but yeah again marovic kind of the OG in this department and keep in mind marovic is doing this without a three-point line so here's the final article here again I'm just throwing marovich in here as a dark horse cuz nobody ever talks about marovich in the greatest of all time debate I mean I think it's without question that he's probably the best uh I think it's without question that he's the best college basketball player of all time but here's another article that kind of sums up the stats here to close this out relatively recently this was posted by Murray sing nug April 23rd 2020 on basketball network.net Bill Walton said Pete marovich would have averaged 57 points per game average NBA legend Bill Walton was fascinated by the detailed biography two authors Wayne Federman and Marshall Terrell had put together on the life and career of another NBA legend Pete marovich Federman and Terrell in their effort to put together the most comprehensive book about Pistol Pete got a huge assist from the inside collaborator Pete maravich's Widow Miss Jackie marovich this is an Incredible Book there are so many facts so many stories I was a great personal friend of Pete never a teammate I played against him a lot but this book has been has been so interesting and entertaining this book has captured my imagination that I have put everything else aside as I just powered through this every day Bill Walton Walton who had played in the NBA from 74 to 75 from the 74 to 75 season until the 87 to 88 season had won the NBA championship rings with the 76 to 77 Portland Trailblazers and the 85 to 86 Celtics shared his overall Delight with the detailed book while also offering the memory of some vintage moments he had with Pistol Pete marovic NCAA Phenom who broke all scoring records during his four-year legendary stint at the Louisiana State University under the leadership of head coach press maravich's father was selected as a third overall pick of the 1970 NBA draft and began his NBA Journey with the 70-71 Atlanta Hawks the great Bill wall the Hall of Famer later on today's show Richard Jefferson is going to talk with us and the author of a new biography about Pete marovic the late Pete marovich so we're going to we've got that book here unbelievable we're going to ask Bill his best marovic story but this is an Incredible Book there are so many facts so many stories I I was a great personal friend to people we were never teammates I've played against them a lot but this book has been so interesting and entertaining to me I'm a Avid Reader and this book has captured my imagination and if I put everything else aside as I just power through this every day and I can remember when Pete got traded from Atlanta where he started his career over to New Orleans when the team went down there in his expansion team and and they had never won again they were 0 and 14 and they were the worst team in the league and Otto Moore was the center they couldn't do anything but Pete was just lighting them up and the Portland Trail Raiders we go in there we had we had a team and it was not the championship team but we had a good enough team and we were pounding them early way up at half time and Pete in the second half just takes over and he goes absolutely wild he's playing one against five and he's up and down the court shooting jumpers Hooks full court behind the back passes through guys legs he's just everything and at the very last play of the game we're up one and Pete dribbles up four of our guys go chase him because they know he's not going to pass it and he's falling at of bounds and he shoots it as he's tumbling over the row of fans in the corner literally and I am standing underneath the basket waiting for the last rebound of the game we're going to win the game and they're not going to win a game ever the New Orleans Jazz and the ball swishes he unbelievable he reminds me a lot if you can compare him to anybody to Steve Nash today although Pete was much bigger Pete 6'5 and uh and and much more athletic in terms of the jumping ability until he tore his knee up I mean that that really changed everything for Pete amazing about Pete 44 points per game career for three straight years in an ERA with no three-point line Dale Brown who coached at LSU after press and Pete were there Dale Brown went back and charted all the games with the with the running score you know marovic free throw marovic 22-ft jumper marovich layup and he calculated that with the current College Three-Point Rule at 199 Pete marovic would have averaged 13 threo makes per game which would have given him a career average of 57 points per game under today's rules that guy is unbelievable we love him we missed him terribly what a great friend what a great human being the late marovic and his wife gave some some access that she hadn't before to any author so it really is a great read we're going to have it again the author on in a moment and check this book out marovich by Wayne fedman and Marshall TR I know it's going to be on another segment but the pictures the stories the history I can't believe I'm Blown Away by how hard these guys worked uh Federman and Terrell to put this together this is a great story stuff that I had no idea went down all right so let's go over that number again so this was calculated so he would have had he would have made 13 three-pointers per game and his average would have been 57 points per [Laughter] game so again in so in his most productive season the 76 to 77 season he scored 40 plus points on 13 occasions 50 plus points on four occasions again without a three-point line and he also had his 68o game against the Knicks in 77 I mean this guy you could possibly say he was the most talented offensive player you could possibly say that if you're factoring defense though it's kind of hard to put him up there as greatest of all time so again just going over the numbers Michael Jordan versus LeBron James kind of hard to argue in favor of James and just some fun historical tidbits regarding Pete barovich hope you guys enjoyed another edition of M shck Sports plenty more analyses to come if you enjoy the podcast want to help us get more mind shocking podcasts out there with logic and reason at the Forefront feel free to donate to our PayPal just check the link in the description make sure subscribe to the channel hit that Bell for notifications make sure allow device to have those notifications come through could also become a YouTube member right here on YouTube for access to exclusive members only streams and chats like and share the podcast Twitter R patreon patreons do get priority for requests you could also be a guest of the podcast depending on your tier questions comments theories thought suggestions rebal debunkings of any kind leave them in the comment section this is Bruce Maguire signing off catch you guys next [Music] time [Music] but I don't know I don't know here's our Dark Horse I'm going to throw this in here I am not I'm not saying that this player is the greatest of all time I'm just going to throw this out there where does Pistol Pete marovich fall into the greatest of all time debate so Pistol Pete marovic is not even that well known to those outside of Hardcore fans in basketball this was a guy I mean he played in in before Jordan well before Jordan he played in college 1967 to 1970 he is still the alltime leading scorer in the NCAA with 3,66 67 points anybody want to take a guess what his points per game average was it's 44.2 that's his average in college keep in mind back in those days freshman could not play on the varsity team so in three years of college Pete maravic is the all-time leading scorer with one year less than all the other players and it gets crazier that's without a three-point line so all of his threes counted as twos regardless of where he shot from and he shot from from a distance he shot from outside a lot so imagine that just for a moment so he only has 3,667 points counted so he would have scored well over 4,000 points with a three so again we have to do apples to apples comparisons so let's just do the quick let's just do a quick rundown of Pistol Pete marovic for those that don't know born June 22 1947 died January 5th 1988 known by his nickname Pistol Pete was an american professional basketball player marovic was born in alipa Pennsylvania part of the Pittsburgh metropolitan area and raised in the Carolinas marovich starred in college at Louisiana State University's Tigers basketball team his father press marovich was the team's head coach Pete marovich is the alltime NCAA division 1 scorer with 3,667 points scored and an average of 44.2 points per game wow all of his achievements were achieved before the adoption of the three-point line and shot clock and despite being unable to play varsity as a freshman under then NCAA rules he played for three NBA teams until injuries forced his retirement in 1980 following a 10-year professional career one of the youngest players ever inducted into the nouth memorial Basketball Hall of Fame marovic was considered to be one of the greatest creative offensive talents ever and one of the best ball handlers of all time he died suddenly at age 40 during a pickup game in 1988 as a consequence of an undetected heart defect he was 6'5 197 lbs career highlights he was a five-time NBA All-Star 73 74 77 through 79 two time all NBA first team 7677 two time all NBA second team 7378 NBA all rookie first team uh in 71 scoring champion 77 NBA 50th Anniversary team NBA 75th Anniversary team number 44 retired by Atlanta Hawks number seven retired by Utah Jazz number seven retired by New Orleans Pelicans two-time national college player of the year 69 and 70 three-time consensus first team All-American 68 through 70 three-time SEC player of the year 68- 70 three time n NCAA scoring leader 68 to 70 NCAA division 1 alltime leading scorer and okay so his career stats he's got 15,940 points this is from in the NBA 24.2 average 2,747 rebounds 4.2 average assist 3563 5.4 average so just to illustrate this guy's shooting ability I'm going to read this article I mean it's a few years old it's by Shane asadera on sport. one the better scorer Pete marovich or Steph Curry ever since he was in college Curry has been compared to the great Pete marovich the main reason for the comparison is Curry's ability as a pure scorer Curry led the nation in scoring during his final season at Davidson and his scoring outbursts were often likened to the ones produced by the man they called pistol in the 1960s marovich led the nation in scory in each of his three seasons at LSU the pistol is considered as one of the greatest offensive talents the game of basketball has ever seen no one has been able to score in college like Pistol Pete did not even Curry when he played in the NBA though it became a different story while marovic led the NBA in scoring once in his career he never averaged the same ridiculous numbers in the big league still he was one of the best scorers of his era Curry meanwhile is one of the NBA's top Gunners he and backourt partner Klay Thompson have been dubbed as the Splash Brothers because of their ability to put points on the board Curry is considered as one of the greatest shooters ever if not the greatest given his range and accuracy but is he the better scorer than Pete marovich different role book Steven Curry is is the best pure shooter today and is perhaps the best we've seen in this generation but before we put him on the same NCAA pedestal as Pete marovic let us remember first that back in the 60s college basketball had a different rule book if you watch pistol pets highlights at Louisiana state notice that there is no three-point arc on the basketball court yep every basket that marovic scored was just worth two points whether he shot the ball from 20 30 to even 40t away from the hoop in the absence of the three-point line the absence of the three-point line didn't stop Pete marovic from hoisting up longdistance bombs he just kept on shooting the leather and scored almost at will given that he averaged 44.2 points per game at LSU we can only imagine what his scoring average would have been had there been a three-point line back then over 50 benefiting from the three-point shot on the other hand Steven curry thrived with the three-point shot in three seasons of Davidson Curry averaged four point four three-pointers per made per game considering he averaged just 4.4 twoo makes per outing Curry virtually lived by the three-pointer 54% of his shot attempts per game were for Beyond The Arc and with him making 412 of his trifectas he became a super scorer in college this brings us to our next Point even with the three-point line Steven Curry only averaged 25.3 points per game during his collegiate career we said only because Pete marovich averaged an astounding 44.2 points per game during his three years at LSU that's almost a 20 point scoring difference per game in favor of Pistol Pete without the benefit of the three-point line as we said we can only imagine Pistol Pete's scoring average would have been had there been a three-pointer during his time but on the other hand we can compute Steven Curry's college scoring average without the benefit of the three-point shot that would be a better comparison not on the same level curry made four three-pointers per game on average that meant he scored an extra four points per game because of the three-point shot take that number away from his college career scoring average of 25.3 and that would result to a 21.3 point per game score scoring average that's just half of what Pistol Pete scored per game that's one hell of a difference right there if you translate that to college career point totals Pete marovich still tops Steven Curry even if the latter played in more Collegiate games than pistol Steph scored 1,32 fewer points than Pistol Pete and 21 more games played Curry never scored at least a th000 points in a single NCAA season marovich topped the 1,00 point mark in each of his three years in college marovic is the all-time leading scorer in college basketball history in the top 10 only he and Oscar Robertson played in less than four years and appeared in less than 100 games Robertson's 33.8 Collegiate scoring average was the closest to maravich's numbers and it was even more than 10 points fewer Curry isn't even in the top 25 of the NCAA scoring list but that's because he played in just three seasons While most of the players on that list played out their eligibility among among the 25 Collegiate scorers only marovic Robertson Elvin Hayes and Larry Bird played in three seasons so for curry to be close to the company of these Hall of Famers speaks a huge deal about his scoring prowess it's just not in Pistol Pete's level closer in the pros while marovic versus Curry is a mismatch individually in college the same cannot be said in the Pro ranks if we put them on equal footing using per 36 minute averages marovich is at 23.6 points per game while Curry is at 24.0 points per game again marovic supporters would point at Curry's career average of 3.5 three-pointers per game as the reason hence giving Pistol Pete a slight scoring average Edge over Steph Curry excluding pistol's 1980 postseason appearance with the Celtics his playoff scoring average was 2547 points per game Curry meanwhile is a career 26.2 including 4.2 three-pointers made per game again even if we subtract the three-point shooting difference there isn't too much disparity between the two but still marovic would have the slightly better scoring numbers but while Pistol Pete may have better scoring numbers than Curry marovic never played alongside three other Allstars on his team Curry currently shares the floor not only with Splash brother Klay Thompson and Draymond Green but also with Kevin Durant who is one of the most gifted offensive players of any generation playing Durant has taken some of the scoring load off Curry as a proof Curry averaged a career-high 30.1 points per game the season before Durant arrived since Durant began playing for the Warriors Steph's scoring as well as his shot attempts have naturally dropped even before Durant came Curry had to share the ball with Thompson and green making it not impossible for him to score as he pleased the better scorer so who is the better scorer in the college ranks a comparison between the two is blasphemy in the NBA it's pretty even except that if Pistol Pete had the three-point line he could have easily outscored Curry by a significant margin the NBA first introduced the three-point line during Pistol Pete's final and injury plagued NBA season where he played Just 43 games split between Utah and Boston marovic took a total of 15 three-pointers during the season and he made 10 of them for a 67% three-point shooting average while 15 may not be a gauge of how he would have shot had he had the three-point Arc during his entire NBA career it was an indication of how good and outside shooter marovic was and how good a three-point shooter he would have been whether he would have been better than Curry from Beyond The Arc or not we will never know and we can only imagine but the point here is the three-point shot would have given would have given marovic an extra window to boost his scoring output just as it has boosted Curry's numbers another thing to consider which people don't really consider too much is Pistol Pete was simply ahead of his time by a lot nobody really had the style of play I mean Jo Pistol Pete was I mean I'm not comparing them overall just in terms of style of play Pistol Pete was like the Jordan of his era in terms of nobody had that kind of trick style super athletic coordinated style that Jordan kind of made famous and and Magic Johnson to an extent as well but Pistol Pete was kind of like the OG and he just was Unstoppable his accuracy was just incredible his game IQ incredible the thing is he didn't really care about D defense so he can't ever touch Jordan on defense but a lot of his teammates didn't understand his style of play they they just weren't prepared for his style of passing he had all these trick passes and all these things they couldn't handle it so that of course did not lead to team success in the NBA regarding Pistol Pete marovich now comparing seasons and for those who think it's Blasphemous in his 7677 season with the NBA he led the league in scoring averaging 31.1 points per game he scored 40 points or more in 13 games and 50 or more in four games his 68o Masterpiece against the Knicks was at the time the most points ever scored by a guard in a single game and only two players at any other position had scored more Will Chamberlain and elen Baylor Baylor was actually the head coach of the Jazz at the time now Michael so this was unbroken until Michael Jordan who actually did it eight times starting in his 8687 season and then Kobe Bryant also did it as well but yeah again marovich kind of the OG in this department and keep in mind marovic is doing this without a threo line so here's the final article here again I'm just throwing marovich in here is a Darkhorse cuz nobody ever talks about marovich in the greatest of all time debate I mean I think it's without question that he's probably the best uh I think it's without question that he's the best college basketball player of all time but here's another article that kind of sums up the stats here to close this out relatively recently this was posted by Murray sing nagaj April 23rd 2020 on basketball network.net Bill Walton said Pete marovich would have averaged 57 points per game average NBA legend Bill Walton was fascinated by the detailed biography two authors Wayne fedman and Marshall Terrell had put together on the life and career of another NBA legend Pete marovich fedman and Terrell in their effort to put together the most comprehensive book about Pistol Pete got a huge assist from the inside collaborator Pete maravich's Widow Miss Jackie marovich this is an Incredible Book there are so many facts so many stories I was a great personal friend of Pete never a teammate I played against him a lot but this book has been has been so interesting and entertaining this book has captured my imagination that I have put everything else aside as I just powered through this every day Bill Walton Walton who had played in the NBA from 74 to 75 from the 74 to 75 season until the 87 to 88 season had won the NBA championship rings with the 76 to 77 Portland Trailblazers and the 85 to 86 Celtics shared his overall Delight with the detailed book while also offering the memory of some vintage moments he had with Pistol Pete marovich NCAA Phenom who broke all scoring records during his four-year legendary stint at the Louisiana State University under the leadership of head coach press marovic his father was selected as a third overall pick of the 1970 NBA draft and began his NBA Journey with the 70 to 71 Atlanta Hawks the great Bill wall and the Hall of Famer later on today's show Richard Jefferson is going to to talk with us and the author of a new biography about Pete marovich the late Pete marovich so we're going to we've got that book here unbeliev we're going to ask Bill his best marovic story but this is an Incredible Book there are so many facts so many stories I I was a great personal friend to Pete we were never teammates I played against them a lot but this book has been so interesting and entertaining to me I'm a Avid Reader and this book has captured my imagination and if I put everything else aside as I just power through this every day and I can remember when Pete got traded from Atlanta where he started his career over to New Orleans when the team went down there and his expansion team and and they had never won a game they were 0 and 14 and they were the worst team in the league and Otto Moore was the center and he couldn't do anything but Pete was just lighting them up and the Portland Trailblazers we go in there we had we had a team and it was not the championship team but we had a good enough team and we were pounding them early way up at halftime and Pete in the second half just takes over and he goes absolutely wild he's playing one against five and he's up and down the court shoo and jump Hooks full court behind the back passes through guys legs he's just everything and at the very last play of the game we're up one and Pete dribbles up four of our guys go chaseing because they know he's not going to pass it and he's falling out of bounds and he shoots it as he's tumbling over the row of fans in the corner literally and I am standing underneath the basket waiting for the last rebound of the game we're going to win the game and they're not going to win a game ever the New Orleans Jazz and the ball swishes perfectly through the he's unbelievable he reminds me a lot if you can compare him to anybody to Steve Nash today although Pete was much bigger Pete 65 and and and much more athletic in terms of the jumping ability until he tore his knee up I mean that that really changed everything for Pete amazing about Pete 44 points per game career for three straight years in an ERA with no three-point line Dale Brown who coached at LSU after press and Pete were there Dale Brown went back and charted all the games with the with the running score you know marovic free throw marovic 22-ft jumper marovic layup and he calculated that with the current College Three-Point Rule at 199 Pete marovic would have averaged 13 three-point makes per game which would have given him a career average of 57 points per game under today's rules that guy is unbelievable we love him we missed him terribly what a great friend what a great human being the late Pete marovich and his wife gave some some that she hadn't before to any author so it really is a great read we're going to have again the author on in a moment and check this book out marovich by Wayne fedman and Marshall TR I know it's going to be on another segment but the pictures the stories the history I can't believe I'm Blown Away by how hard these guys worked uh fedman and Terrell to put this together this is a great story stuff that I had no idea went down all right so let's go over that number again so this was calculated so he would have had he would have made 13 three-pointers per game and his average would have been 57 points per [Laughter] game so again in so in his most productive season the 76 to 77 season he scored 40 plus points on 13 occasions 50 plus points on four occasions again without a three-point line and he also had his 68o game against the Knicks in 77 I mean this guy you could possibly say he was the most talented offensive player you could possibly say that if you're factoring defense though it's kind of hard to put him up there as greatest of all time so again just going over the numbers Michael Jordan versus LeBron James kind of hard to argue in favor of James and just some fun historical tidbits regarding Pete barovich hope you guys enjoyed another edition of mindshock sports plenty more analyses to come if you enjoy the podcast want to help us get more mind shocking podcasts out there with logic and reason at the Forefront feel free to donate to our PayPal just check the link in the description make sure you subscribe to the channel hit that Bell for notifications make sure allow your device to have those notifications come through could also become a YouTube member right here on YouTube for access to exclusive members only streams and chats like and share the podcast Twitter Facebook red patreon patreons do get priority for requests you could also be a guest of the podcast depending on your tier questions comments theories thought suggestions rebal debunkings of any kind leave them in the comment section this is Bruce Maguire signing off catch you guys next [Music] time