"I Told You Something is Coming & Now It's Here..." | Whitney Webb

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"I Told You Something is Coming & Now It's Here..." | Whitney Webb
Surveil the forest. Effort to impose like a carbon market, a global carbon market,
surveilling large swaths of Latin America, surveilling your environment from the sky
without a national government really having any say in the matter. It's going through third parties
that are not based in those countries. The carbon credits are going to be traded by people abroad
and the decisions about how that money is spent is being made by people who are abroad. It seems
more likely to disenfranchise rather than empower locals. So that should really tell you a lot about
what's going on here. But the side part of this is that in order to ensure the integrity
of the hectare on which this each unit of token is based, you must surveil the forest.
And so there's this whole idea of now creating the internet of forests, putting sensors on every
tree and every hectare of the Amazon in order to ensure that no one's messing with it. And this
may also at some point include the indigenous people that live there. Because if one hectare
has an indigenous tribe and less trees as compared to another hectare that isn't inhabited,
which one is more valuable in the eyes of investors, particularly if there's this
effort to impose a carbon market, a global carbon market, which some people like Mark Carney and
other prominent central bankers and other bankers have discussed at length as an alleged solution
to environmental issues in the world. I think that is something that should be talked about
as well. And also the idea is to also use satellite surveillance. And so this particular
effort to tokenize the Amazon specifically is teamed up with a satellite company
called Satellogic. And Satellogic, the chair of the board is Steve Mnuchin,
the former Treasury Secretary. And also on the board is a man named Howard Lutnick,
who was recently named to be co-chair of Trump's transition team. And he's the
longtime head of Cantor Fitzgerald, which is one of the main dealers of U.S. Treasuries and also
very intimately connected to the Staplecoin tether, which is also invested in Satellogic.
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So it'll be interesting to see exactly what goes on there as it relates to the satellite
firm, which is also, you know, in previous reporting I did with Mark Goodwin, who I
to create a carbon market in Latin America that was built on the Bitcoin blockchain specifically,
which is something that I think a lot of, you know, at least older school Bitcoiners
who are not really into the idea of carbon markets or any of these things would be,
you know, quite against. But I think it's something that should definitely be talked
about, the idea of, you know, using satellite surveillance to back all of this stuff up,
especially with a company like Satellogic that has, you know, the people I mentioned on the
board, but also are, you know, vying for U.S. intelligence and military contracts. And the
people that created that company are longtime contractors for DARPA and the NSA and U.S.
intelligence. So you're going to have this satellite firm, you know, surveilling large
swaths of Latin America. You know, if these efforts, one of which was called Green Plus
and the other one called One Amazon, go through, you'll essentially have a company that's tied to,
you know, important people that are, as it relates to the U.S. government, you know,
former officials and, you know, also people that have historically been U.S. government
and intelligence contractors, you know, surveilling your environment from the sky without a national
government really having any say in the matter. I think that's quite, quite problematic. And
also Tether is behaving rather, you know, making some interesting choices for a stablecoin issue,
where I think as well they've started investing, for example, in brain machine interfaces,
you know, brain chips and that sort of thing, and have also, you know, onboarded the FBI and
Secret Service onto their platform and have been, you know, shutting down people's wallets
on behalf of, you know, the Treasury's OFAC and entities like that. So, you know, I think,
you know, some of these stablecoin issuers, the prominent ones anyway, are sort of anticipating
this kind of system that I discussed earlier and are sort of embedding themselves with powerful
actors that I think ultimately mitigate their ability to be what some people have argued
are human rights tools. You know, some people have said that about stablecoins in the past,
but if you're onboarding, you know, one particular government, which very much
has a political agenda as it relates to Latin America and other parts of the world,
onto your stablecoin and are freezing, you know, and taking people's money essentially at the
behest of that government, and also getting, you know, invested with people that are,
at least in the case of a future Trump administration, are likely to have some
political connections there as well. You know, I think that's pretty significant.
Yeah, I think that's very fair to say. Let me ask, do you think that the tokenization of the
natural world helps or hinders with this, what you called the neo-feudal, where I've heard you
refer to it as like a new form of slavery where we have these two very divergent classes? Because
when you first started describing it, it sounded kind of awesome. And then by the end, I thought,
oh, like maybe this actually creates something really terrible.
Well, okay. Let's take the case of, you know, the Green Plus program, which claims to
sort of tokenize and turn into carbon credits protected areas throughout Latin America. So
in those cases, the carbon credits aren't given to the locals or the local governments to trade
and make money out of and put back into their communities. It's going through third parties
that are not based in those countries. And the money for the people there go into a particular
fund that isn't managed by any people that live there. It's managed by, well, they haven't really
been open about it, but a guy from one of the biggest insurance companies in the world, Lofton,
is ostensibly the head of it. And they would decide when there would be certain allotments
of that money. And that money can only be spent on projects that this particular group running
Green Plus that, again, isn't based in Latin America approves of. So in that case, you're sort
of choosing how the money can be spent. You're framing it publicly as for the benefit of the
environment and for the benefit of these local people. But in reality, you're deciding what they
can and can't fund. And, you know, some of the stuff that, you know, their partners and whatever
are tied to a lot of the same, you know, foreign oligarchs like the Rockefeller Foundation or the
Gates Foundation or entities, you know, like that, that go back to some of these, you know, very,
you know, wealthy families. Ultimately, it's initiatives run by NGOs that those organizations
fund, which ultimately doesn't necessarily work in the best interests of these local people who
are, you know, poised to surrender these protected areas, supposedly to protect them by generating
carbon credits. But the carbon credits are going to be traded by people abroad. And the decisions
about how that money is spent is being made by people who are abroad, not about the locals. So
it sort of seems to me like a way to, you know, frame a project that's going to make certain
people a lot of money under very different terms than what is actually going to happen. It seems
more likely to disenfranchise rather than empower locals, but is being framed sort of as a planetary
necessity because of the whole, you know, climate change thing, right? So we have to act now to do
this stuff. And so there's, you know, this pressure being placed through that rhetoric on
people to comply with these types of things, particularly in Latin America is a big focus of
that now. But I think, you know, as it's been, you know, played out in practice, that really isn't
the case. And the particular group that I mentioned earlier, that's doing this in the Amazon, which is
called One Amazon, entered into contractual agreements with this indigenous community
called the Chihuahua, I believe, that live in the Amazon. And it was framed to them as being great.
And then they actually went and like read the contract after they signed it and realized that
it dramatically favored One Amazon over their interests and then voted to cancel the agreement,
right? So these guys kind of have a history, at least these actors that I've mentioned,
of sort of going in and framing their stuff, making a sales pitch to locals that it's going
to be great for them. And then when it's not in practice, the locals are trying to get out of it.
So that should really tell you a lot about what's going on here, I think.
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