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In figure skating, a "forward outside eight" refers to a specific element or maneuver performed on the ice. The term is often associated with figure skating figures, which are precise patterns traced on the ice. The "eight" in this context refers to the shape of the figure, resembling the number eight.
A forward outside eight involves skating in a forward direction while tracing the shape of an eight on the ice with the skater's blade. The "outside" part refers to the fact that the pattern is skated on the outer edge of the blade. Skaters are judged on the accuracy and symmetry of the figure, as well as the control and precision of their edges.
It's important to note that figure skating has evolved over the years, and the emphasis on compulsory figures (such as the forward outside eight) has diminished in favor of more dynamic and expressive elements in modern competitive figure skating programs. However, figures remain a fundamental part of figure skating training and are included in U.S. Figure Skating's moves in the field testing and training programs.
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what are we doing okay so when you're
focusing on the
center I think and and this may seem a
little
too okay everyone for
you but what I want okay cuz this is old
school okay right I get it but as you're
coming towards let's say the forward
outside you're going to turn that foot
be on your heel slow down push okay you
see how as I'm coming in
here okay I'm on my heel roing
Turing okay so there's that moment of
control so I'm not kind of losing
it as I
step now can you explain what the ruler
of the blade is for people who are you
know more normal the blade is is that so
the middle part of your blade is very
flat are you sure where the rocker is
for everyone
yeah so the The Rocker is that's a
that's a complex question right oh okay
so the front of the blade is that's
where the sweet spot is and it's got a
nice curve I like to think of it as like
a cradle it's that kind of like security
way up front that's where you want to
spin right but the middle part of your
blade is very flat it's like it's like a
ruler okay the back part of the blade
also has maneuverability in that it also
has a tight turning radius okay which is
why you want to sit back as you're going
onto this push and turn that small
radius turn as you're doing your push
and you said to bring the toes up coming
in yeah yes so that you can get to your
heel you're picking your toes up as
you're turning it right and you're
grinding into the ice you're kind of
like slowing the speed
down with friction against the ice there
as you're as you're bringing the foot
about 90° okay okay and it works the
same way on the inside so as I'm coming
here on the
inside it's a little easier on the
inside frankly because I think most
people have an easier
time yes getting for sh on their Inside
Edge all right I'll try it
yeah but this Center is one of those
things that I think you can present to
the
judges as like look I did my center
right okay but be sure you're not in the
middle of your sorry be sure you're not
doing a toe push there okay
David bat
better sit
back
foot Le okay lean sit back keep sitting
back
okay
my one leg does not want to do that
Carlo would say stand in okay so stand
in so meaning like lean into the circle
foot across your path arms coming around
Point your toe turn it slow it feet
together get your toe to heel there the
minute that you push off I want you to
get your toe to heal well we're just
playing musical centers here oh we are
really trying
I'm sorry you really like to like change
the focus you know we're really trying
to give you a good push and now you're
like talking about the
C okay
sorry I see I have my coffee
already all right here we go okay push
toe to heel yeah squeeze those feet
together now bring the Foot In Front
arms it's too fast
okay bring your foot across arms are
going to come a little later than
that toe to heel foot in front arms now
Point your
toe
okay sorry I tried to give a better push
okay don't come back to that Center
put back you know we have Circles of
markers right over there
okay
okay okay foot where which Center are
you coming back to not that one what
what you like I don't know this one this
is the one you pushed
from wait here yeah that's why I was
saying musical centers
okay this this one was the one that I
used for marking anyway never mind okay
it's better I think that one foot is
better than the other okay six foot is
better yeah and I think that it's
because you do a better job when you're
when you're coming in you're you want to
get some
slowing and you want to get onto the
heel and push like with control there
and I think what happens is you come in
with some heat there and then you skid
like that okay okay but that's pushing
not pulling with your blade so you want
to be pulling with I know that sounds
weird but you know imagine like a power
pool right but you're kind of like
putting a snow cloud at it okay instead
of curl you know using using the blade
to turn and rip like you're carving
something okay if that makes sense yeah
I have to get my arches stronger at my
foot I think to pull up could be right
so you might have to really compensate
and doesn't want to turn as much as this
yeah so you're going to compensate so
that it is symmetrical this is why we're
doing all the hog warts stretches with
carrot that's it right for like hours a
day right okay turn that toe so that
it's going on the circle already yeah
toe to heel wait for that foot do you
see how your shoulders are already kind
of rotating there yeah you want to keep
that your free shoulder pulled back
until
3/4 yeah
okay
okay Foot In Front wait for that arm
wait there you
go and now
grip okay
rip yeah it's hard on these free skates
I think to rock all the way to the back
of the blade you know you're really like
pushing me to get finger blades I don't
know it's not essential
there that was good see that do you feel
that
grip there
yeah okay this is looking
better sit way back way back
try to slow it down to a dead stop at
the push I got too excited you said the
last one was good I just miss my whole
now there okay middle of the blade you
want that ruler part to
push and I'll explain that in a second
okay all right David so when you're
pushing right you want to push with the
ruler part of your blade okay that flat
part because you want as much contact
with the ice you do not want to push
with your toe okay so if you push with
your toe it's sort of like you know when
you're on your preest and you're six
years old and they're like no toe pushes
right no Flats does that bother you more
than a flutz well no a flut or a flat
which one is more upsetting to you well
I think Flats on a figure are just like
a nonstarter right so yeah so if I see
Flats on a figure I'm like wait a minute
we need to go all the way back okay
because it shows that you don't have the
throw and the lean right and then when
you and if you toe push like that it's
like if somebody's toe pushing in you
know beginner yeah and you're not a
beginner okay right so all right got
it they need a shirt that
just like the no wire hangers right
right right right
yes there
okay keep that right shoulder back until
the 3/4 Mark okay which feels weird but
you want
to good and then the
foot
okay
okay so if you're going too fast you've
got to start thinking how am I going to
grip the ice so that I get friction on
because you can control your speed when
you're pushing when do I check the speed
when do I start like at the when I do
the last quarter cuz I'm thinking of
that I'm going too fast too late like
it's like well that's great you know
you're going too fast yeah think I get
myself friction on the I so that I
can you know like it would be like this
and I'm like oh my gosh I'm going too
fast
so see what I did there yeah you P up
yeah there's
a essentially okay you want to be as
close to stop as possible
there okay cuz otherwise you're going to
go pass through into the middle
one okay inside yeah
okay that was a little slow you were
really trying not to toe I know you were
so no don't don't try not to tow push I
want you to instead push from the ruler
part of your blade okay okay the middle
plat
part
okay think positively okay middle part
go there
okay now pass your arms and your
foot can you pass your hands right by
your hips
there now drag drag your hands past your
hips so that they're actually
like you can feel your hands at your
hips when you're passing them there you
go okay and now feel the ruler M
middle okay Point your toe back arm
higher I want your arms to be level
please there you
go sit
back
ruler okay little longer with that foot
okay so I want you to think about you're
skating from
perpendicular there okay that was
better pushing from perpendicular
there okay
that the right to left push is a little
shorter than it should be okay this
one's a little
better it needs to be
perpendicular that being said you're
pretty steady on the actual eight itself
which is good
okay twist that back arm behind you my
feet cuz this one you know you don't
have to be
up right you have to lean your foot over
in order to get that
grip lean it over
there now lean it over lean that foot
over I want you to exaggerate this
Inside Edge as you get you know 5 two
and 1T from the
center
yeah you're going to start like
gradually getting more Arch pushing down
into the push there there
better
okay lean it
in okay all right it's getting better
I didn't even have coffee this morning I
you don't need coffee you're doing
figures I
know all right here you go so you on the
left foot I think that when you come in
you tend to want to turn this on the
front of your blade yeah okay I want you
to try to pick your toes up and turn on
the heel there okay because then you're
going to have your foot ready to push on
the
r okay okay all right okay