What does Trump's political decline mean for Farage and Reform? | The News Agents

What happens to the kind of radical right in the UK and other European countries which try to emulate Trump and MAGA or at the very least were very happy to be associated with him. Obviously Farage is one of the best examples of that. He's obviously been, he's actually been not talking about Trump for some time now I think we at the time posited this exact possibility, which is it but I remember us talking you know in 24 was dangerous, it was always dangerous to so, in the public mind, and early 25. to so clearly associate yourself with an American political phenomenon led by a guy who could obviously so easily self-destruct. And obviously, if you basically set yourself up as the MAGA of the UK, which let's be honest, Farage and Reform did for a long time. The people then naturally say well if it didn't work in America and Americans are so pissed off with it Why should we have it over here? And these things are subtle There's just something about the kind of momentum of politics of the sense of where history is going where the tide is going And right now As a result of the tide going out on Trump and MAGA, it does have a kind of momentum effect on its equivalent forces in Europe. It doesn't mean that they are dissipated, or it doesn't mean that they're necessarily doomed, but I think it does make it a little harder when the intellectual climate starts to shift against them. Look, I think, you know, what you said about Farage, he's a very astute politician. And, you know, a few months ago, he started putting distance between himself and Donald Trump and saying, you know, it's chaotic and I think there are other ways you could do this. All the rest of it. Although he was. Sorry to interrupt you on that. He was. I don't know if you saw him on GB News the other night. I'm not. But he was still doing it. And I think this is what I mean about the intellectual climate thing. He was doing the thing. I think Trump's going to surprise people. I think they're going to do a lot better than the Republicans in this election. And he couldn't. Yeah, he couldn't. It's like he couldn't quite conceive of kind of actually of where the actual political winds were blowing. Yeah, and I think that, I mean, what was so striking about these midterms, it wasn't just a gentle, it wasn't just the swing of the pendulum that you get in normal midterm elections. It was brutal. I mean, it was a thorough... absolute freaking kicking that Trump got and it was like the American people having sort of bought it for a long time and bought the shtick and he's quite funny and I like all the nicknames and I like the outrageousness just thought you know what if you that's fine if you're delivering me a better standard of living oh that's fine if you know you're ensuring jobs and whatever else and he hasn't and I think that's where it suddenly looks pretty threadbare Look, the right in the UK and Europe gained confidence from seeing what happened with Trump in 2016. The corollary is also true.