DoctorOz: Diet Cheating, Shoplifting, Hospital Shooting & Weight Loss Tips | S7 | Ep 147

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Nov 3, 2026
Would you help a friend cheat on their diet?
Would you stop a kid from stealing?
We go undercover in a surprising social experiment.
Wait until you see the reactions.
Then, was this bipolar patient shot because he's black?
I couldn't have heard a fly.
From there, they proceeded to shoot me anyways.
Montel Williams fires back.
It is clearly injustice any way you look at it.
We're asking the tough questions.
Coming up next.
We'll be right back.
We'll save lives today.
You guys ready to get healthy?
I don't think...
One full hour of some
of the most intense
investigations you'll ever see.
We're going to start with this question.
If a woman asked you to cover up
for her while she cheated on her diet, would you do it?
Think about that.
And how about shoplifting?
Would you stop a child from stealing?
NBC investigative correspondent Jeff Rossen is here
with surprising and provocative split-second decisions
that are caught on tape.
And then Montel Williams is back
with a story that has made headlines all over the country.
Why are more and more hospital guards carrying weapons?
He's here with an answer and an investigation
that may surprise you.
But first, let's begin with that question
that affects almost everyone at some point in their lives.
So, audience, let me ask you a question.
How many of you, please be honest, what could go wrong?
How many of you have cheated on your diet?
Pretty much anyone who's been on a diet, right?
That's sort of an easy question because we've all been there.
But how many of you, and this is a big question,
how many of you would encourage someone
if they were cheating on their diet?
Hands up.
You wouldn't, right?
Nodding heads, no.
I don't know.
It's like two people over here.
I'm not sure they were paying attention even, but we'll find out.
So recently, NBC's national investigative correspondent, Jeff Rossen,
conducted a hidden camera experiment to see how people would react
when a complete stranger asked them to cheat on their diet.
Absolutely brilliant. Jeff Rossen is here.
How surprised is it that these ladies stuck together?
They actually even lied to protect each other.
Yeah, they doubled down on the lies.
This wasn't just, oh, no, she didn't have it and walk away.
This was the woman saying, we're good friends.
How about the woman that said, oh, I think it's makeup.
I mean, it went on and on and on. I absolutely loved it.
And women told us the reason they all stuck together
is because they've all been there, right?
And you said it earlier.
Anyone who's been on a diet has cheated before.
I think women especially relate to that.
Women, you always say that men lose weight so much faster.
So women can really relate to this, and they saw a damsel in distress.
Until that last guy.
Yeah, but the men, in general, were not willing to cover up.
Did they tell you why they weren't willing to help out the ladies
who were cheating on their diets?
Yeah, because when the boyfriend came in,
and we told the boyfriend, who was an actor,
we said, walk up to the guy and say,
look, guy to guy, you know, come on.
man to man.
man to man. A couple of guys here, just guy code,
tell me what she, and that's when they crumbled.
Yep.
And that's when the men crumbled.
When he was like, guy to guy, just come on, hook me up.
Don't let my girlfriend lie to me like this.
So that last guy, you brought him up.
Love him.
I think a lot of us may be thinking the same thing.
Do you guys think that he was flirting with her?
Thank you for being here.
Don't you?
He's feeding her lovingly.
You don't do that to people every day at the grocery store.
I'm not allowed to.
That would be a problem.
So let me ask you, because I saw you come to you guys.
First of all, I have to go to this lady first.
You were laughing so hard.
Did you enjoy that?
I loved it.
I loved it.
Can I say more about love, Dr. Oz?
Please say about love.
Can I feed you?
Did you?
You know, the interesting thing is I asked you all before,
how many of you would encourage someone if they were cheating?
And literally, there were two people.
I didn't see anybody else put their hands up.
And yet we're watching in real life,
there seems to be a difference between genders.
So what do you think about the boyfriend coming in there
and trying to enforce the rule?
What would you do if you were in that situation?
Oh, I would 100% support the cheating on the diet.
I mean, the cake is right there.
And us women have to stick together.
There is nothing wrong on cheating on a diet
or having a spending spree every once in a while.
Although you said you would, and you're encouraging.
What do you think?
What would you say about the whole situation?
I'm appalled.
First of all, she's beautiful.
So what if she has a piece of cake?
He's a brute.
I think that she should just dump him.
Dump him?
I'm glad he was just an actor.
I'm glad you all enjoyed that.
When we come back, another Jeff Ross
and hidden camera social experiment.
This is a more serious topic.
Would you stop a kid from stealing?
Wait until you see what happens.
That's next.
Thank you very much.
Next, it's bad enough watching a child steal,
but what if you saw a mother actually telling her child to do it?
Just put it under your jacket, okay?
Would you say something or would you ignore the situation?
The twist you didn't see coming is next.
Drugs, alcohol, and pills.
What really happened to America's sitcom kids?
I really hit bottom.
From Growing Pains to Everybody Loves Raymond.
See what was really going on behind the scenes of your favorite shows.
All new Oz.
That's coming up tomorrow.
We're back with NBC's Investigative Correspondent, Jeff Rossin.
Now, what is it about these segments
that keeps all of us glued to the TV?
Of all the things I watch, it's probably what I enjoy the most.
These secret cameras, I got you.
Yeah, it's the voyeurism of it all, right?
We feel like we shouldn't be watching it.
It's sort of like when we watch
the Nat Geo channel and it's watching wildlife.
Yes.
You know, in its natural habitat.
We're watching humans in their natural habitat
when you set up these hidden cameras.
And we all like to say to ourselves.
We sit at home, and with our popcorn, we say,
oh, God, I would react completely differently.
But you never really know how you will react
in a situation until you're actually in it.
And that's the thing people say to us over and over again.
God, I really thought that I would
have done the opposite of what I did.
But when you're faced with that split-second
decision, it is fascinating to watch.
All right, so Jeff has brought us another one
of his hidden camera experiments.
Now, here's the scenario.
What if you saw a mother doing the unthinkable
and actually telling her child to steal?
Think about that. Would you keep quiet or go about your business?
Would you do that? Just go on what you're
normally doing and just get out of the way?
Or would you jump in and say something?
Take a look at the reactions recorded by our hidden cameras.
So it's amazing. You watch what happened.
Most folks did nothing. They tried to ignore the situation.
It was very awkward, very painful, actually.
What was the main reason that people gave for not intervening?
And this is a pattern we see when we do these social experiments.
People don't want to get involved
in other people's parenting decisions.
And they say, you know what, I don't want to be yelled at.
By the parent and told to mind my own business,
I'd rather just keep my own business.
What I love in your story
is how you show beautiful parenting at the same time.
And actually, we have 11-year-old Emma here.
That's who you saw at Irvine.
Emma's mom is Terry.
Hey, Emma.
Hey, I'll sit next to you.
So what went through your mind
as you saw that little girl get that bad advice from her mom?
I thought...
Why would a mother do this to her child?
Just tell her to steal.
And I just felt really bad for the girl.
And I thought that would never happen.
And I was glad that it was not real and it was fake.
Shara, it's emotional just watching you watching her.
I was.
You proud of her?
I'm very proud of her.
It was everything, you know, that you hope as a parent
that your child would do in that situation.
Well, I'm proud of both of you.
Good parenting.
Just not done yet.
When we come back, he's got his biggest secrets
for saving money yet.
Stay with us.
Next, we reveal the biggest mistakes people make
when it comes to shopping.
Jeff shows you how to save big bucks
at major stores across the country.
His team goes undercover to show you how to get a better deal.
Big money saving secrets, next.
NBC News investigative correspondent Jeff Rossin is back.
He's breaking down his biggest investigations all show long.
Now he's revealing how you can save big bucks.
I'm talking about really big bucks at major stores across the country.
So what is the biggest mistake people make
when it comes to trying to save money?
Number one mistake is walking into a store thinking
that that price just is what it is.
And we're especially susceptible to that,
I think, of the big retailers.
We walk in. These are big, big stores.
When we go into a mom-and-pop store,
we think, oh, I can haggle a little bit.
It's sort of like a garage sale.
I can, you know, I can haggle.
At a big-box store, it is what it is.
Number one misnomer, you can negotiate at these big retailers,
the biggest in the country.
You can even negotiate in a doctor's office, believe it or not.
You can?
Yes, you can go in there.
I mean, obviously, you're going to be fair about it.
Yeah.
But you can say, I can, you know, they're
charging this for the same operation.
So it expands across any time you're going
to spend money, because it's your money.
I never knew that.
So Jeff and his team went undercover
at some of the most popular retail stores
to investigate how to get a better deal.
And the first thing you notice is that you
have to price match with other stores.
That sounds like a hassle to me.
I've got to go from place to place and compare?
Yeah, well, actually, you don't even have to.
Just pull out your phone, and you can
look up, you know, at this particular...
Oh, so you're selling this for $100.
That's weird, because I just looked up on my phone,
and your number one competitor is selling it for $20, $30, $50 cheaper.
Do you guys price match here?
We went undercover.
We went to some of the biggest stores in the country.
And all of them said, yeah, we price match.
We'll honor that.
We'll honor that right on the spot.
You don't have to go anymore from store to store to store.
Just do it right on your phone.
So price match means they will match the best price you can show them.
Yep, you can show them.
And there's another app.
There's actually an app.
So that's if you want to go website to website.
To make it even easier, there's a really cool app.
We have it on the screen right now.
It's called Shop Savvy.
It's a free app.
You can download it right now.
It will do all the price comparisons for you.
Type in your neighborhood.
Type in the location you're in, the item you want.
It'll give you the instant price matching right on the spot.
I don't know why you wouldn't do it.
Yeah, there's no reason not to.
All right, we wanted to put the shopping secret to the test.
We asked Adrienne, a member of our audience, to help us out.
So you're in the market.
How are you, Adrienne?
Hi.
You're in the market for a new laptop.
I understand. I am I am and you know the specs
You know what you want to get I do I do.
I am a stickler for a good deal
Especially when it comes to electronics
Rock on, Adrienne. That's what I love.
There's this laptop that I love
but it's super expensive so I haven't purchased it yet
All right. So I know which one you're looking for.
Come on over here. We actually did some
price comparisons for you. I used Jeff's ideas.
So this is the laptop I believe that you're
looking for, or it's pretty close anyway.
And so we had it priced out of the major retailer. I
think you may recognize the price, $343.
So that's the price that it's actually listed at. That's a
price that most of us, I would have before this show,
walked in and paid. So we took Jeff's tactic
And we actually looked at another store, we compared.
And we looked at that, and we just had one large competitor.
It was $299, which I thought was pretty cool.
I agree.
And then we went to a third retail store using Shop Savvy.
Your idea.
Yeah, the free app.
Yeah, I'd never heard of it before.
It's free.
I'll tell you, how do you be free?
And how do you be free by getting money back?
It was $269.
That's $74 savings.
Yeah.
Which is a big deal.
It is.
Now we're speaking my language.
You like that?
I love it.
Does this Price Savvy only work on electronics?
No, this is not just electronics.
This is clothing.
This is really any type of anything you want to buy.
Yeah, it works on shoes.
Don't worry.
You don't need any.
You're golden.
For all of you who do need shoes,
yeah, this works for anything.
Thank you.
That's a beautiful thing.
Instead, we're speaking your language.
I hope it's helpful to you.
It's very helpful.
I think I may leave here
and make that Christmas evermore.
Thank you.
Thank you so much.
You got it.
No problem.
Let's get to Jeff's next big money-saving secret,
and it has to do with these two boxes,
which I have no idea why you wanted them here,
but they're here.
So what's the lesson?
If you were in a store right now,
let's say you were buying a big-screen TV,
which...
Which box would you buy, the open one or the sealed one?
It's obvious, the closed one.
That's the difference between us.
I go for the open box, and there's
a reason you should go for the open box.
The TV's in there, everything's in there.
It means that it was probably returned,
or somehow opened in the store, or it's a floor model,
or maybe there's a missing remote.
So why would I want it?
Because you're gonna get hundreds of dollars off
of an open box like this, and if it's missing anything,
you can say, throw it in for me.
We tried this, we went undercover, we saved $280.
On a big screen TV with an open box,
and we actually got them to throw in some extra stuff, too.
And those TVs work.
You still have the same sort of warranty, usually,
that you want on a sealed box, but it's a floor model.
So they just want to unload it.
They want to get rid of it.
Okay, coming over.
The third tip is to buy more to save more.
This sounds counterintuitive, but you argue it's vitally important.
How do you do that?
Yeah, so this is called bundling, and it does sound counterintuitive.
Why would you buy more money, spend more money to save more money?
And the reason for that is, let's say you need a washer-dryer.
Yeah.
But you know in a few months you're going to need a refrigerator, too.
If you walk in and say to the salesman,
look, I'm going to make your day today.
Your commission is going to be through the roof
because I'm going to buy three things here today instead of two.
But I need you to take 10% off or 20% off the entire price.
He's much more likely to do it.
We did this undercover.
The salesman went and found his manager, and boom,
we got a lot of money off the biggest of the day.
And by the way, maybe it's not because you need something else.
Talk to your friends.
Do you need a refrigerator?
I'm about to go to the store and buy some other appliances.
Let's bundle this all together and save some money.
So we asked Jenny in our audience to check it out.
You tried this secret, I understand, recently.
And how much money did you save?
$3,000.
Boom.
Yeah.
There it is.
Where were you buying that you could save $3,000?
Well, we were replacing a lot of old furniture.
Yes, we bought in bundle.
What if the person's not receptive you're talking to?
What if they are disdainful of your attempt to save $3,000?
And this brings us to our number one tip of all, just be nice.
And we talked to a lot of salespeople, and they all said,
you know, look, we're having rotten days, too.
We're in moods.
People treat us like garbage.
If you walk in and say, please, I know.
Please, I know.
I know.
Just do me this solid.
My wife's going to kill me over here.
I always pull that one.
They'll often come back around.
We tried that, too.
It works.
Be nice.
Be polite.
Were you nice?
Always.
Of course you were nice.
Up next, how you can save thousands of dollars with a click of a mouse.
You don't want to miss this next money-saving secret.
Be right back.
Back in a second.
Next, have you ever gotten ripped off when you buy online?
Jeff knows a way to end that today.
Based on the kind of computer you are using, you can save money.
He's got a simple trick everyone can
do on their computer to get a better deal.
We put it to the test.
Next.
Drugs, alcohol, and pills.
What really happened to America's sitcom kids?
I really hit bottom.
From growing pains to Everybody Loves Raymond.
All new Oz.
That's coming up tomorrow.
Today, we're revealing the shopping secrets that could save
you big bucks at major retailers all across the country.
Jess says his next trick could save you
from getting ripped off when shopping online.
So, what do we need to do?
You ready for your socks to be blown off? Are they on?
I'll pull them up a little bit. There we are.
I'm about to knock them off.
Based on the kind of computer you are using,
even the sort of web browser you are using, you can save money.
What?
It's literally that simple.
The kind of computer and the web browser you're using.
They can tell if I have a Mac or a PC?
They can tell if you have a Mac or a PC.
It's called dynamic pricing.
For example, if you're using a Mac...
People with Macs buy retailers, according to research,
have more money, higher income.
So you will actually see when you try to buy plane tickets
or even regular items from stores,
there are some algorithms that can, not always,
can bump the price up versus people using a PC.
All right, so we actually tested this money secret.
Come on over to see how these prices would vary.
I was so shocked by this.
Actually, so.
I'm happy.
All these years, I've been spending money
because I have Macs mostly at home.
So we took a hotel as an example, right?
Something we may all look for.
We look at the same hotel, exact same hotel,
the exact same night, the exact same city,
and we used one server, the one that's more expensive,
and we found it was $182.
Okay, now look at the hotel, the city.
It's the same place, okay?
It's the exact same hotel, same city, same night.
Using Jeff Seeker, a different web browser, $170.
I was shocked.
Yeah, and that's not a lot of money, but that adds up.
Now, when you're staying multiple nights, how about plane tickets?
We were talking about hundreds and hundreds and hundreds of dollars.
It does add up.
So what do we do?
How do we protect ourselves?
I can't give my computer back and,
you know, change everything in my life.
Here's how you stick it back to the retailers.
You do something.
You go incognito.
Incognito?
Yeah, like Inspector Gadget.
You want to go incognito.
We all want to do that, right?
We all want to be Superman.
So what you do is, and we have a couple of browsers here to show you.
We're starting with Firefox, for example, okay?
Actually, Google Chrome, we're on Chrome.
We'll start with Chrome.
When you're on Chrome,
go up to the top right corner of the screen.
You see those three bars right there?
Yeah, yeah, yeah, I see them.
Click that.
New incognito window.
It actually says that.
It actually says it.
New incognito window.
You hit that window, then watch what happens.
An entirely new window.
You've gone incognito.
And now you can go to any store.
And he's got a spy hat on.
Exactly.
It's our boyhood dream.
So you have all that, right?
Let me show you what happens on Firefox.
So if you shop with that, you will save money.
You will save money on that.
It takes everything else out of it.
You're now, your computer's
no longer giving information about you to them,
and you will save money.
Here's how you do it on Firefox.
Firefox, you can actually do it two ways.
You can go to those three bars in the top corner.
Yep.
And on this one, it's called New Private Window.
Yep.
And it's got a little masquerade mask.
Look, you are now browsing privately.
Do you ever think you could learn this on a TV show?
Honestly, goodness.
I can completely change the way I use my browsers and save money.
And the kind of computer you're using.
And go incognito.
Always in life.
It's a good lesson for all of us.
Listen, we're going to put these instructions
at DrOz.com in case you didn't get it all.
Or hopefully you did.
For any browser you may have, next time
I want you to shop and get a fair price.
It was a wonderful experience.
Thanks for being here, Alex.
We'll be right back.
Thank you.
Thank you.
Next, we go from one advocate to another
when Montel Williams investigates.
A patient suffering a bipolar episode
checks into a hospital
and ends up with a bullet to his chest.
Was it because he was black?
They didn't think about him as a patient.
They just saw a criminal.
All this season, we've been turning the tide on mental illness,
breaking the stigma, and finally treating it like a disease it is.
The sad truth is, there are barriers
to that reality that will be hard to overcome.
Poverty and race are two of the biggest.
Take a look at this story about a bipolar patient
that's led people to ask the shocking question,
was he shot because he's black?
Last August, Alan was just a regular college student in Houston, Texas,
about to graduate.
Until a gunshot changed his life.
That day I felt energetic, heightened sense of feeling.
There was a sense of anxiety.
He didn't sound like himself.
My father and my younger brother, Dominic, were on the phone with Alan.
He was panicking, and everything in Alan's tone of voice
and the things that he was saying suggested
that he was going through a manic episode.
I had experienced manic episodes before, so I knew that's what it was.
My perceptions of what was around me started to change.
The controller in my hand wasn't a controller anymore.
It didn't control the PlayStation.
It actually switched on a processor within me.
That's when I started to panic.
Alan was briefly hospitalized in 2008,
diagnosed as possible bipolar,
and put on antipsychotic medications.
He went six years without another occurrence
until this day.
It's like having your thoughts hijacked.
I believed that I was a secret agent, bionic in nature.
People who were after me were closing in on my position,
and I needed to get out of the apartment.
I just rushed out, opened my balcony door,
proceeded to scale down the balcony
inside from the third story.
I believed that was the safest route to my car.
I knew I needed to go to the hospital to get help.
Alan's symptoms became so severe so quickly
that we couldn't mobilize the proper resources
at that time of night to get him the help he needed.
I'm a fourth-year medical student. My father's a physician.
Alan viewed the hospital as a safe haven.
He had that instinct even in the midst of his psychotic episode.
Alan drove himself to St. Joseph Medical Center.
Ten feet before he arrived, he crashed and totaled his car,
striking several cars in the parking lot.
Nearby paramedics and nurses helped him
into the emergency room to treat him for potential injuries.
As I'm getting rolled in, I begin to yell out. I yell it out.
I'm manic. I'm manic. I'm manic. I said it multiple times.
Alan was treated for surface injuries,
had some medical scans to make sure he wasn't hurt,
but he was never given a psych evaluation.
The next morning, my parents went to the hospital, they spoke to Alan,
they saw that he was not himself,
that he was in the midst of a psychiatric crisis,
and for some reason, he was going to be discharged.
I'm still within my delusion, full blown, and I had this idea
that I was able to impersonate President Barack Obama.
They were getting ready to discharge me.
But I thought that they were preparing me for this speech,
that, you know, I needed to get my suit.
I leave the shower. I'm nude.
I begin to walk out of my room.
Alan had been in the throes of his psychotic episode walking
in and out of his room naked
and being redirected into his hospital room.
Following protocol, a nurse called in security.
They entered Alan's room.
There was a scuffle, a noise,
and then a loud gunshot.
Speaking out for the first time,
Alan Payne is here to reveal what really happened inside
his hospital room, and Montel Williams joins us
because he's been so outspoken about injustice
in this country.
So, Alan, what happened in the hospital room?
At the time, I was standing there by my bed
when two individuals entered my room, charged
into my room, actually,
and the first individual attempted to tackle me and, you know, charged
He charged after me and I used his momentum to
shift him to the floor next to me
when the other individual by the uh by the door discharges taser
and uh you know i'm there being electrocuted
when the other individual to my left stands up
and deploys his weapon and shoots me squarely in the chest
when the force of the bullet
throws me to the other side
and the last thing i remember is coughing up blood and
Um, not knowing whether or not I was going to live or die.
It's a horrible story. I mean, I don't even know where to go with this.
Montel, let me just go. We're on the same page here.
If I understand correctly, you come to the hospital.
Alan says, I'm manic. He says it three times from what we can tell.
So people should have known that.
He's in his hospital room, a place where we go to get healed usually.
He gets tased, and the next thing you know he's being rushed to surgery
with a gunshot to the chest,
which you don't usually get in the hospital.
You're taken to the hospital because of it.
I mean, this sounds like injustice any way you look at it.
It is clearly injustice any way you look at it,
and let's explain why from the beginning.
Number one, they went in the mindset of, he's a criminal.
They didn't think about him as a patient.
They just saw a criminal.
And I'm going to say to you that, unfortunately,
in the town that he lives in,
if you look at the statistics of who gets shot in that town,
75% of the people who are shot are African-American males
under the age of 22.
Okay, now, okay, you're going to say, okay, Montel, here you go.
You guys are whining, it's a black thing, it's a black thing.
Yes, it is.
Because this young man, if he had been standing
in that same hospital room, Caucasian,
the nurse would have called a doctor.
She saw a black man that she couldn't understand what
to do with and called security.
Hospitals don't need security for patients.
They need safety for patients.
So, Montel, if I ask this question, please,
I want to make sure I ask it the right way.
You've been, obviously, an outspoken supporter
of the African-American community,
but at the same time, you've had a big voice.
So where's the peace line here?
See, here's part of the problem again.
The officers that were in this hospital didn't even get
a week's worth of training, A.
B, they were off-duty cops
who are trained to work in violent situations.
That's what their training is for.
When it comes to hospitals, I'm here to tell you, the hospitals around
this country need to get a grip and understand that, number one,
everybody who walks in that door, who comes in as a patient.
If they walk in as a patient, you are saying, I'm here.
Bring me your huddle of masses.
What does it say on your oath of office?
Do no harm.
Yep, yep.
So he walks in the door.
He's a patient.
From that moment on, anybody inside of that building has
to recognize the difference between
security and safety.
It's simple.
But unfortunately, when race becomes the clouder.
You know, people lose their minds.
So let me say this real clear, just as Montel just said.
I do believe hospitals ought to be a safe place for all patients.
I really feel badly that this happened, but I want to keep telling
your story because there's a lot to learn from it.
I want you all to pay attention to what happens
because when we come back, we're going
to talk about what happened to the officers in this case.
Next, we ask the big question.
If it happened again today, would the officers handle it differently?
Get the guns out of the hospital. Period.
Alan's father shares what he experienced that night,
and his story will shock you.
Next.
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I've never heard of a patient getting tased
or shot in the chest while they are inside
their hospital room naked and unarmed,
let alone being handcuffed after being shot and
tased.
The Center for Medicare
and Medicaid Services did conduct a federal investigation.
They were able to cite that the hospital had numerous deficiencies
in safety for patients.
The only reason that the hospital reacted
to what happened is because they had their
funding threatened.
After spending hundreds of thousands of dollars
and seeking legal counsel, our family was able to get those aggravated
assault charges as well as another charge of reckless driving dropped.
But the two police officers who went into that room,
who tased and shot a patient, were never disciplined
and had a grand jury deem the shooting justified.
Obviously I'm relieved that the charges were dropped.
But even so, I never received an apology,
which is hard to believe considering that I was shot in the chest.
I never received an apology from the hospital
or the police officers.
Alan Payon says he's still waiting for that apology.
So what do you hope comes out of your story?
What do you want folks to take away from it?
Well,
I hope to increase discussions about police brutality,
gun violence, mental illness,
as well as the discussion about whether guns should
be in patient care facilities.
So, Montel, here's a scenario where the hospital administrators say
this happened today, the same scenario.
A gentleman in the room making a ruckus.
They wouldn't have done anything differently.
I want you to address this at a personal level.
Yeah, look, this is the sick part about this is
people remember me.
I sat on Oprah and did this.
Why?
Because, but for the grace of God,
I suffer from emotional lability
and chemical clinical depression.
Now, I've worked very hard at this
for the last five years of my life
to control, to keep it under control.
My wife helps me keep it under control.
Minutes.
The wrong stresses, the wrong things hit me.
It could trigger a psychotic break.
I don't know.
Am I going to walk into a hospital and start punching people?
I don't know.
But if something went wrong
because of the drugs I take to heal me of another illness,
I have to worry about getting shot and killed just
because I can't communicate at that moment?
What we as a nation have to do,
and you've heard the talk and all the political conversations
that are going on right now,
everybody's starting to understand mental illness affects every
family.
And unless we as a nation start addressing it as if they're our family,
our brothers
and sisters, we'll have more people getting shot
because that means you don't care to
call the hospital and say, stop the stupid,
get the guns out of the hospital, period.
Hallelujah.
Did you know there were hospitals with guns in them?
I do now, actually.
After being shot in the chest, of course you know.
Yes, I'm aware of it.
So we actually reached out to St. Joseph's
Medical Center, and this was their response.
They said, in the wake of the sad events,
we are reviewing our practices and procedures
as we continue to provide the best possible care to those we serve.
Let me ask Alan's father, Harold, to get into this conversation.
He happens to be a doctor, interestingly,
and he's joining us in the audience.
So, sir, you walk into the hospital.
You're worried about your son.
You actually, if I get the story right, really weren't all
that respected by the people who were taking care of your boy.
Okay, so when I went to the hospital,
I identified myself as a physician.
And I told the nurse that I think that he
was having some kind of psychiatric problem.
Can they get a psychiatrist?
Or could I even talk with the doctor in charge?
And what the nurse told me, she said, well,
you may be a physician somewhere, but you're not a physician here.
So she said, we don't have doctors like you here.
Yeah, they were totally dismissive or whatever.
I asked what medication they were giving and all of that.
She said, well, you're not a doctor here.
So that's all I found, you know.
I'm sorry that happened, sir.
You deserve better.
In fact, even if you weren't a doctor,
you deserve better walking into a hospital.
Montel?
Well, you know, just think about it, man.
The number of emergency rooms that you have been in yourself in life,
people react to drugs differently.
So a person, let's say, comes in and they get adrenalized
or they get something else.
You could have a person jump up off the table
and do anything crazy,
because they just have a break from the medication
that was given to them in the hospital.
You have some security guard standing over there with a gun,
and his first reaction is, again, secure the perimeter.
They jump into this mode.
So, you know, I think, number one,
if they're gonna have a gun in the hospital.
You can't have three days worth of training on a computer.
You know, you've got to make it a requirement by law.
And if not, I hope that you've had the ability to sue this hospital.
I hope somebody watching this comes up and says,
let me help you sue this hospital.
Because it's going to take somebody like doing that to shut this down.
When you hurt them in their pocket,
they'll get a grip and start thinking the right way.
The part about this story that's
so compelling to me is that we have a perfect storm in America.
We've got mental illness touching every family.
We've got race as an issue, and we have poverty as an issue.
And you put those things together, and you end up with injustice.
That's the thing.
That's the real battle here.
That's what we're after.
So I want to thank you all for sharing your stories,
to your entire family, to Dr. Payan, and soon-to-be Dr. Payan.
I'm committed to breaking the stigma on mental health,
and I want us all to finally treat it like
the disease that it really is,
and that means everybody.
Has to have that kind of treatment
across all racial and economic lines.
It doesn't matter.
That's the only way we can really take care
of those who are weakest among us.
And that's what we stand for as Americans.
I mean, everywhere, everybody.
How do they get the equal care they need?
We'll be right back.
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But is it right for you?
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Meet the guy who says you've been dieting all wrong
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That's coming up on Wednesday.
I'm Jeff Rosling, so I asked him to stick around for an extra 30.
I understand you have some big news.
You are looking very handsome these days.
Thank you.
You're not so bad yourself.
So what's going on?
What have you done differently?
What are you doing after the show?
That's right.
It's going the wrong direction.
Different kind of after show.
I lost 20 pounds by going on a diet regimen.
You lost 20 pounds?
20 pounds.
20 pounds, trying to keep it off.
It's a daily struggle, as you know.
But there are little things that I wanted to show you,
and I wanted to show you that you can do.
And one of the things that helped me all along,
every day, you know how we eat a sandwich for lunch?
You eat a sandwich.
It's what I eat for lunch.
Well, I don't personally, but yes, I understand.
Us commoners, we eat sandwiches for lunch.
You know what I do?
Take the piece of top bread off.
Done.
You just take the top piece of bread off, put lettuce here,
and then you can eat the sandwich like this.
You don't miss.
This top piece of bread at all,
and you can save a lot of calories every single day
if you eat a bunch of sandwiches every single day.
Actually, it's 80 calories a day,
which comes out to about 8 pounds over the course of a year.
That's a lot.
One little nudge.
Do you only have turkey sandwiches?
Yeah, I love turkey sandwiches.
This is great.
Try not to do a lot of mayonnaise.
You can still do a little.
The key is on a diet that I found,
at least for me, because I don't love dieting,
is to not cut things out cold turkey.
No pun intended.
Sorry.
I've been practicing that all day.
He'll be here all weekend.
Try the corned beef.
You don't want to cut it out entirely.
I put a little light mayo on, just a tiny little bit.
Taking the bread off really helps,
and I don't put on all the other condiments that I usually put onto it.
And when you're traveling, because you're on the road all the time.
Yeah, it's hard. The bread baskets are really hard.
When you're doing that, you know what I do?
I eat protein at night.
I'll order room service in whatever random hotel I'm in.
I'll get the chicken.
I used to get the lasagna or the ravioli.
I'm on the expense account, so I get a dessert as well.
Oh, gosh.
I cut out the dessert.
Poor NBC.
Yeah, you didn't hear that.
Don't tell anyone.
And I just get the proteins, and I try to get the grilled chicken.
Hey, that comes fried.
Can I get it grilled?
When I order chicken parm, my favorite meal in the whole world,
I get grilled chicken parm instead of fried.
Little things like that add up.
Love having you here, Jeff.
Good luck.
Congratulations as well.
Thank you so much.
Remember, happy and healthy starts at home.
I'll see you next time.
I'm going to eat this.
Yeah.
