NASA Scientist Ran the Math on Pentagon UFO Videos

That's pretty much as clear as you might want it to be. I know where those files are. I provided the locations of those files. So let's release some of those. Ryan, that kind of data is my dream to have. Former Navy F/A-18 pilot Ryan Graves, two weeks into his seat on the UAP Science Advisory Council, is talking about clear, minute-long footage of spheres that he believes the Pentagon has not released yet. The council was formed to give scientists a real look at UAP evidence. Its members are being handed clips a few seconds long while the key numbers are blacked out, while the footage that could settle the question stay locked away. And that decides whether the public ever gets an answer or only more blurry dots in the sky. Hey ufologists, I'm Christina Gomez. And this is your UFO news update. More than 100 videos have now come out of Pursue the presidential unsealing and reporting systems for UAP encounters. Two members of the UAP Science Advisory Council measured them frame by frame. One of them, NASA Goddard planetary scientist Dr. Ravi Kopparapu, went through the results on screen with Ryan Graves. Now, Ravi spoke for himself, not for NASA. And Graves also stepped down after five years as chair of the UAP committee at the AIAA, AIAA, the the American Institute of Aeronautics and Astronautics. He believes he is the only member of the new council without a Ph.D. And Graves also named the one person in the White House he believes could open up real time UAP data. And we'll get into that in just a minute. But first, his main complaint was about the releases. But what's coming out is a clip that's four to five or six seconds long. And as we're going to discuss here in a minute, so unbounded that you can't really tell anything useful from that information. Graves walked through the kill chain, the process pilots use to deal with any contact. The steps are find, fix, track. The first four mostly happen at long range or radar, and aircraft and ships share that radar picture on one network. Now, by his estimate, six other radar systems may have watched the same object for 30 to 40 minutes behind any single Pursue clip. What Pursue releases mostly comes from the end of that chain. Much of it is targeting pod video built to guide a bomb onto a building and not to capture sharp images. Graves agrees raw radar data should stay classified, but he wants the council at least cleared to see it. The first video on screen was the PR113, and as reported by The Debrief, it is infrared footage recorded over the western U.S. in 1996. It shows the HUD, or heads-up display, during what Graves reads as a strafing run on a closed live-fire range. Nothing unexpected For me, my pilot eye seeing this happen and the speed at which they're going across the HUD, I would suspect that these are probably within a thousand feet of the aircraft. At 1,000 feet in front of a diving jet, that would be a near miss. And Ravi checked the pilot's read with math. In a paper he wrote with Jacob Haq Misra of the Blue Marble Space, the object crosses the screen in about a tenth of a second. The math gives only two different answers. The object could be a bird flying just off the nose of the jet, and it could also be a craft about 120 feet wide, nearly two miles away, faster than the speed of sound. Both answers fit the video equally well. The number one that would tell them apart is how far the object was from the camera. And that number was left out of the release. Much of the information is redacted here. And so what we try to do is analyze this frame by to see, we need to know the field of view in actual units of... You know, units of kilometers or meters or whatever it is. However, we don't have any of that information. So we can't do the object's range as well. The ground speed also, we cannot say anything about it. And so we tried to do this whole screen analysis by using the pixel. How many pixels are there across the screen? And how many pixels per second the object was crossing across the screen? Graves thinks there is about a 75% chance the jet's radar picked up this object too, and if so, the missing distance is probably sitting in a military file. There is one more detail on screen. The object moves into a blacked out box on the left side of the frame and then never comes out on the other side. So what do you think the PR113 shows? A bird just off the nose of the jet, or something much bigger and farther away, moving faster than sound? Let me know your thoughts in the comments. The second video, the PR149, gave the scientists something to measure against. A cargo ship sits in the background about 500 to 650 feet long. Measured against the ship, the object was not moving faster than sound. Something only a few inches wide, moving at normal speed, fits the video. The camera shows heat as white, and the object shows up white, so it was warmer than the air around it. And they think that probably fits the category. of a bird. The third video, PR-135, was filmed over an island near Kuwait on July 29, 2025. The military report described six objects moving at 450 miles per hour, roughly 22,000 feet up. If you look at our paper, we have actual data on how, what is the beat frequency of these objects. And they fall somewhere between 3.5 hertz to 10 hertz, consistent with what birds would do at that height. According to Focus, an Italian science magazine, each of the six objects flickers brighter and dimmer about six to eight times per second. That is right in the line with how fast birds flap their wings, which the team measured at about three to ten times per second in videos of real birds. In late July, the island off of Kuwait is also a nesting spot for seabirds. The flicker test works without knowing the distance, so the blackened out... parts of the video do not get in the way. According to the German outlet Echo24, the team has now found about 10 Pursue videos with the same kind of flicker. So far, the scientists keep finding that the Pursue objects are unfortunately probably birds. And Graves worries that releases are coming out that way on purpose. He now sits on the council, and he is not impressed with how things have been given to them. Gary Nolan, who was also on the council, made the same complaint earlier this month, and Graves pointed to the gap. David Grush testified about craft stored in hangars, but the public is getting a single blob moving across a pilot's screen. And then not only that, we're now getting videos of birds. I fear that if the... The government wants to be unhelpful in this endeavor. There's a ton of ambiguity they can just pump into the conversation by just having any silly thing that is not immediately identifiable and pumping it out and saying, well, this is a UAP now, and just flooding the zone with a ton of low-quality, ambiguous BS, for lack of a better word, birds and debris or whatever this is. Graves also explained why the military holds the data back. Radar tracks show how small an object the U.S. can spot and from how far away. If PR-149 turns out to be a foreign drone, releasing the clip tells that country its drone was seen. Ravi is working with what he has, and he is building tools to study the public videos and sharing them so other scientists can check them out. That way, the tools are ready. better data ever comes out. And what he wants most is the same object caught by radar, heat cameras, and regular cameras all at once. Graves thinks the military could get that kind of data live using equipment it actually already has. Like I said, every aircraft talks to each other. The ships talk to each other. It would be relatively trivial for a defense contractor to build a box, more or less a modem. That plugs into that network that monitors everything that all those aircraft and ships are seeing in real time and basically create an algorithm to scan it for abnormal radar contacts. I've pitched this to several government agencies, if you're listening. Thank you for listening. I know that you don't even really have to build it. You could just level it. Leverage a ground-based station to plug into and monitor this type of information. But it's not some magical process that requires us to retrofit an aircraft and burn gas all day. It's as simple as basically plugging into the grid and just monitoring it for the information that you want. He has pitched the idea to several agencies. A ground station could tap the network without adding a single flight. The name he gave was Stephen Miller. Graves argued that if Miller wants real UAP data, that is the fastest way to get it from nearly everywhere the Navy and the Air Force can fly. Marco Rubio indicated in August that he had stepped back from the UAP portfolio, with Miller taking in a larger role. Then he was asked what he personally believed. And Ravi explained that he starts by trusting trained witnesses like Graves and then wants to find the evidence before he believes anything further. Personally, if you ask me, not as a scientist at an organization, personally, I think yes. I think within our lifetime, there might be some. Ravi pointed out that many of the biggest finds in astronomy arrived when no one was looking for them. For now, the videos the councils can study keep coming back as birds, and the footage Graves points to has not been released. Should the UAP Science Advisory Council get security clearances and the full radar data, or should that data stay locked away for national security? Because as we know, the narrative of this UAP Council is that they want to see unclassified data so that everyone can look at it. If they only see classified data, that means they would have to sign an NDA, which means they can't talk about it to the public. Now, earlier this month, I covered Gary Nolan's appearance. on the Bigelow podcast where he explained that this same council has received no real data to study. So watch this video next. I'm Christina Gomez. That is it for today. I will see you again next time for another UFO News update. Be safe and remember, keep your eyes on the skies.