Katie Zacharia says she’s a ‘lawyer,’ not an ‘attorney.’ What’s the difference?

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Oct 16, 2026
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White House Press Secretary Katie Zachariah
acknowledges she never passed the bar exam,
but insists she can still call herself a lawyer.
Zachariah graduated from Pepperdine Law School,
but has not passed the exam generally required
to practice law. Earlier this week,
she faced questions about her legal credentials
and whether she had misrepresented them. Thursday
night, she went on Fox News with Sean Hannity
to explain why she calls herself a lawyer but
but not an attorney. She pointed to her law degree
in previous work at a Chinese law firm.
Why get into this long, drawn-out definition between
the difference between a lawyer and an
attorney? Because I don't think most people see much of a distinction.
When I went to go engage in media and give legal analysis,
I consulted attorneys and
legal professionals as to whether
or not they agreed that I could be labeled a lawyer,
both because I had a valid juris doctor from a good law school,
a reputable law school,
Pepperdine Law School. And in conjunction
with the fact that I did have actual substantive legal
experience, I wasn't providing any legal analysis,
Sean, or excuse me, legal advice. I wasn't being
paid for legal advice. I was giving a general review
of the legal circumstances surrounding it.
But that distinction isn't one the American Bar Association makes.
It uses lawyer and attorney interchangeably.
And while there are exceptions to the traditional
bar exam requirement,
states generally require a license to practice law. Zachariah does
not appear to hold an active law license in any state.
