DWTS Drama Erupts Between Jenna Johnson and Carrie Ann Inaba | Previously On Podcast

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Oct 16, 2026
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I'm Alexa Clone.
And I'm Kristen Toole.
And we are back.
This is probably the most drama-filled episode
we've had of Dancing with the Stars so far.
Yes.
The tension, you could cut it with a knife.
The tension was there in the moment,
and it is still here several days later.
Yes, and we got another elimination.
This one, I can't say was too shocking,
but
Guillermo
our beloved
was sent home
our dear beloved
our dearly departed
no no no
he is perfectly fine
still safe with Jimmy Kimmel
but he is no longer
on Dancing with the Stars
which yeah
people have kind of been
waiting for it
expecting it
but also
keeping him around
because he's fun
I'm pretty impressed
with his work
to be honest
I think so too
and with Whitney's
I mean she
this episode
was held up in the air
in the splits
in a split
in a split
Meanwhile, 20, 21 weeks pregnant, something like that.
It's insane.
Yes.
Like, she's the real winner here.
But I think it was time for them to go.
To go, yeah.
We had a little off-camera discussion.
We think that if Guillermo stayed a little bit longer, too,
it might have caused a little bit of backlash.
Right, because there are other people
in this competition now who are insane.
Exactly.
And so to have him kind of in the same realm as them,
I could see could give him a little bit of heat.
Yeah, I think so.
And I think, obviously, the competition is just going to get
so much harder in these coming weeks.
So, okay, we had our fun and games the first, like, five weeks.
And now it's like, okay, let's let the people who are actually, like,
grinding and doing crazy stuff on that dance floor the full chance.
For sure.
And he was just getting low scores anyways.
So, like, now I'm curious to see all those Guillermo voters.
Like, where do they funnel off to?
Yeah, that's a great point.
Are they going to pick now?
Because if you were only rooting for America's Sweetheart,
Yes.
Who's your favorite now?
Ezra Frech, I could see them all going to.
Because he's also kind of like an America's Sweetheart right now.
I think so, too.
And also, maybe Jackson, the Savannah Bananas guy.
I think he would need it.
I think he needs it.
But I'm also, I mean, we've been saying this,
so surprised every time he makes it further and further.
And to his defense, I do think he's getting better.
Yeah, I think so, too.
Yeah.
And bummer for him.
they did not win
the banana bowl
I think that was
our theory was a little correct
that they probably kept him
a little cross promotion
I think so
and what a bummer
it would have been for him
if he lost the banana bowl
and then also got
eliminated
yeah
but
yeah
nonetheless
Guillermo took the fall
for him this week
we'll see what happens
next week
but also shout out
to Guillermo and Whitney
because that performance
they were channeling
Bad Bunny
and Rihanna
so good
I loved it
it was so fun
And obviously the split moment was iconic.
And I saw some of the behind the scenes where they
were getting ready to prop her up, which
yeah, testament to every single person working on that.
No, it's incredible.
And the fact that when he did get sent home,
like he was just so positive about it.
And then everyone started chanting for him.
Yes, it's so funny.
I clocked that too.
And I was like, you know what?
Every other person who's got sent home, it's tears.
It's trauma.
It's sadness, madness.
Yep.
But this was a full celebration.
everyone was laughing cheering cheering him on so yeah
if you're gonna go out that's the way to do
a thousand percent on good terms yes i'm sure he'll be back for a cameo
or maybe even the tour
yes and i saw i bet he's in the on the tour
for la at least maybe um and i saw a little clip of
him and Guillermo right after he got eliminated
and he said you know my goal was to lose some
weight and i did so heck yeah i will say i mean
this is kind of the time where they start like
their bodies start changing they get ripped a little bit
and i've kind of noticed in like some
of them obviously i'm not like judging their appearance
but you do notice that they're
starting to get their arms sharper
and like their features are changing because they're
working out all and they're working muscles
that we would never work a thousand percent and alex
early even said this she was like i need to keep
my like eight pack that i got from dancing with
the stars i'm like impressive i would do it just
for that yes good for guillermo guillermo we love
you i'm sure we will be seeing more
of you obviously we'll still see whitney throughout
the rest of the season popping in and out
with the troops until she pops that baby out yeah maybe
we'll have a baby at the end yeah oh that'd be so cute yes
so that was obviously the biggest moment
but then the one that has taken the internet
by storm is the drama between jenna johnson the pro
with paired up with harry right now with carrie annanava i'm
so excited to talk about this yes
because literally watching it was like oh i
was like no and then they like went back and forth
i was like instantly awkward she had that paper ready
so basically what happened is that jenna
and harry they had their dance and it was ready
for them to do some critiques and the judges were
being really critical i feel like usually they like hype jenna up yes
but this time they were
like your choreography needs
to be better it wasn't even about harry no no no this you're so
right this was not about harry
which usually it is you know you're working on the pro or sorry
you're working on the celebrity right to get better each week
but this was kind of tearing
jenna down great coming for jenna
and yeah carrie ann she hates her lifts yes one thing about carrie
ann she hates a lift and she said you
also had a lift at like the end right jenna responds and she
goes a lift yes i was like oh
and then carrie ann didn't even let them move forward she pulled out
a piece of paper that i guess has definitions of technique
and gave the full definition of what a
lift is right which is when someone is what lifted up both
of their feet come off the ground supported
by she said supported by the partner partner
which that has caused some drama since as well
since jenna herself did not do the lift right
but then also people were like but technically
troop is your partner for that dance
so it would count yes i don't know but i will tell you that
skybox was no they were heated
and obviously online there's been a lot of posts about it
jenna you said you saw her yeah she posted like on her instagram story
or tiktok or something
and was just like so appreciated for all
the kind comments i've been crying like had a good cry
i'm just like wow like you don't realize this show
is emotional brutal yeah and val her husband also
another pro has been in the comments defending
her as well saying well by that definition we
had a lift too so there's a lot of confusion about
that yeah i don't really know i wouldn't
know the difference i guess
with your partner i would assume it's like jenna lifting right
totally so i actually saw a tweet that i printed off
because i was like this is good information
for me
that ballroom dance knowledge
for Dancing with the Stars fans.
Here we go.
Ballroom, waltz,
Viennese waltz,
foxtrot, tango, quickstep.
Those are all the ballroom dances.
Got it.
Then we've got Latin.
That's cha-cha, samba,
rumba, paso doble, jive.
All of these dances
are not allowed to have lifts.
Oh, like it's forbidden.
Right.
Which that's a lot of the dances.
Wait, that's like all of them.
Yes.
But then we have specialties.
So there's salsa,
jazz, tango, contemporary.
Those ones are allowed
to have lifts.
And so what was theirs?
Do we know?
I'm sure someone knows, but I don't remember.
Wait, let's Google it because I have to know now.
Yes, which is very interesting.
Obviously that, you know, clearly if people are posting, you know,
full definitions of lifts online, this has created a lot of drama.
For sure.
And then it's kind of like, well,
do you reconfigure your entire choreography for the next dance
because you know that she is like fully cracking down?
Exactly.
Like we've brought this whole new definition.
like now it's like okay well it's just a rule
that you can't lift anybody yes so they did for
super bowl night jenna and harry shum jr danced to yeah by usher
and it was a samba okay so is that
that's a latin dance, not a lot of lifts
not allowed okay yeah we've cracked the code literally
so sorry Harry maybe we're on Harry's side
but i don't know yeah that anything it got a little
heated it did Carrie Ann seemed to be like fine at the end of it
and Jenna was like oh take the
note but you could tell she was yeah upset about it
which I also like that sometimes when
they fully get called out by the judges they like come back
with a vengeance the next week
so that could add a little bit of it could add
a little spice to next week I'm excited she's a
great choreographer
so regardless it was entertaining to watch lift or not yes and then I
would say the other standout moment for me
was Julia Stiles finally recreating some of the dance
yeah the last dance this is so good so cool
and they had her co-star there with the jacket over
the shoulder doing his iconic yeah dreamy gaze
as she's pulling it off yeah so that was so fun
and i love too that Ezra her choreographer
her partner was saying you know what we're not
sticking to the jazz rules
this is for the millennials i thought that it was interesting
too for them to not even care about
the judges yeah didn't care about the judges didn't care
about the scoring when it came to that just wanted
the iconicness but then the judges weren't
not critical yeah i was like okay
so very much case by case right i did see a lot of people saying
okay so if you say in advance you're not following
the rules you're allowed to get away with it
right it seems like it i mean good for them
and it worked and it worked it was so fun it was good
And I think she's also getting better, too.
I think so, too.
So much more confident.
And it's just, like, so fun to, like, watch her embrace it.
This was probably, like, a big lead up, too, of,
like, okay, we got to use these dance moves.
And she said she's been waiting to have
this moment for, like, 25 years.
Wow.
So I also feel like, okay, you did it.
And it was a huge hit.
Now you just get to have fun.
A thousand percent.
Yeah.
No, I'm happy for them.
I think that they're going to have
a couple more moves, at least, in them because of that.
Yes.
I think some of the votes maybe to Guillermo might go to her.
Yeah, that's a great point.
So we'll see.
But I just have to bring it up to you
because you brought up Val standing up for Jenna.
Another fella that I've noticed that has
been standing up to his girl, Riley's boyfriend.
Did you see this?
I did not.
Please tell me everything.
Yeah, so I guess, again, maybe I fell for another AI thing.
Someone might have to fact check me.
I tried to break them up a couple weeks ago.
So maybe this will have to be fact checked.
But we'll see.
It's a roller coaster.
Yeah, it really is.
But regardless if this comment is real or not,
a lot of people were saying that Riley just kind
of doesn't really get a lot of great votes from
the judges the scoring is always kind of on the lower side
and I saw that he had commented and
was like oh yet again we're like Riley it's like I
don't know underestimated I guess yeah so I kind
of noticed that too I feel like yeah Connor
is really getting better I mean yes his hips did not
lie no the hips the pants I loved it this is a fake hair moment he does
and he kind of rocks
no he does which makes me we said
this last time makes me even more excited for the halloween
episode once they get to that point hopefully they
do to really see what this man comes up with
yeah i cannot wait and he's just so funny
and fun to watch funny so i don't know i kind of hope that
their scores go up a little bit yeah it seems like everyone else
is kind of getting a boost but i i
have seen a lot of his fans as well really coming for the judges scores
and really emphasizing that
we're all underestimating this man
a thousand percent yeah I think they're great yeah I just
thought that was a little fun to you too I love
when people stick up for like their significant
other yeah of course and you know what like you're
you're saying we haven't heard from Riley's
boyfriend all that often
so I like this coming out of the woodwork I love it yes that's great
who else did you love or who else did you hate I
find it interesting that Tyler Cameron got the
same score from Carrie Ann as Amber Glenn did yes
a lot of people were talking about yeah I thought
that was it's always like because you never really you don't see
the side by side until the end it's
like the leaderboard and then you're like oh wait
a second those people are close to each other
right and then you go back and you really think like judge
by judge like oh you thought this dance
was also as good as this day yeah it's like I did think
that was interesting I feel like Amber Glenn
is also being so underrated right now well she's being critiqued
so hard yeah which maybe yeah
because she started so strong and maybe
because she does have this obviously she's not a dancer
but ice skater it translates a little bit um i don't know
but i thought this dance was so insane
like this could have been a halftime performance
a thousand percent they killed it they had the
towels the props all about the floor i i thought they were amazing
and you can't say the same
about tyler's performance
and it's still good i mean sharna's an amazing choreographer and he is
getting better a thousand percent
but he's not at the same level as her totally yeah so i thought
that was pretty interesting i did see people comment about
that yes yeah yeah i need to start
like breaking down what the judges vote for each one yeah
that's a great leaderboard which you
know a lot of people again are saying not so much this week
but just the fact that there really is
no transparency how the voting numbers
and the judges scores get added up this mathematical formula
that they might have that they're like cooking up
in the back live on air yes yes I don't know
I don't know either I think it would help
the fan base a little bit if they were a little more
transparent on that again Guillermo maybe not this example right
so so perfect but some of the other
ones it would have helped yeah I think it's
definitely probably better if we just don't
know how it works yeah and we just think that our votes count
and just kind of see where the
no that's great yeah I I can see that so yeah
um a few others we have oh I will say going back to
Val Jenna Dewan we've talked about Harry working
on Grey's Anatomy we've talked about Jackson he
was still doing Banana Bull
or the games that he was in but jenna is also still filming The Rookie
yeah i didn't know that we have not discussed
that i don't know that it was ever brought up
until this episode same i seen her and i
was like wait what is she doing in uniform and then i was
like oh my god she's filming a show yeah
which maybe they were also saying you know what all
these boys are getting a pass for double booking
or working yep two different jobs and she was like
you know what so am I yeah she needed to get
that out there yeah I think it actually helped a little
bit I think it helped too people were like she came
in as a dancer we thought she would be a
little bit better but then she's like
no girl I've got like a full-time job yeah and I would say
this dance of theirs was my favorite yeah same yeah
so she really brought the energy for this
one and yeah I think proved even more that she's
in this competition for the long run I think so
too she wants that mirror ball yes yes yes
and then obviously Ezra he's been my favorite for so
long he's just knocking it out the park every single time
so good yeah his prosthetic bedazzled gorgeous
I want to know like did someone actually have
to like piece by piece bedazzle that or did he have
one like ready does he have one in every color yeah maybe like I have
so many questions bedazzled
yes that we'll find out maybe eventually
but i will say i really do love that they
incorporate you know a shorter pant
or the bedazzling they're really making all of him
a big part of this yeah i think i love that the costume department
and makeup department is always
so good yeah every year they just are so impressive the park yes
so i think those
were some of the big ones and i have
to say random shout out Justin Baldoni was in the audience Justin
Baldoni yeah that was crazy strange
which apparently him and Julianne Hough worked together
on a docu-series about 10 years ago right right
so now he's coming out of the woodwork to be like
hey i'm here to support you Julianne there
was some discussion in this office yep should we see
him on Dancing with the Stars oh i feel like only if they
also have Blake Lively oh gosh like we
need to see head to head that would
be the most insane competition that would i think break records
for Dancing with the Stars yes ABC
if you're listening get to writing yeah there might be
something there, there might be something
but my entire feed was like, was that just Justin
so so bizarre, so funny, so hard to just yeah very interesting
also shout out Joe Buck our
judge, he did good sports analysis, sports anchor, he did do a great job
and honestly he was just
having a good time, I know I love
when they just like give high scores, the guest, I would do the
same thing, I'd be like nah it's a 10, he
was thrown around some nines, maybe weren't necessary, but yeah
he was having a good time, yeah this was a great
episode, I didn't know how they were gonna do the
Super Bowl, thought they were maybe we're gonna announce
the Super Bowl halftime performer, I'm
waiting for that, we're still waiting yeah
so we'll see what happens, we'll see, but yeah all together
fun episode, fun episode, not devastating, not shocking really
but like just a good fun
right, a little bit of drama
and yeah nobody, no, and I can't wait to see where that one goes, same
I I hope it elevates yes Jenna to just like want
to stick it to her, I think both feet on the ground
oh yeah she's coming ten toes down, yes I love
it, well good, I can't wait to see next week yeah
comment below if you guys think it
was a little heated between Jenna, if you think Guillermo this
was the perfect time that he should have gone
or maybe he should have stayed a little longer
if you were a guillermo voter
who are you gonna vote for now yeah i'm curious love it see ya bye
Thank you.
