Explosive New Details in Princess Diana's Brother's Book

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Sep 20, 2026
Megyn Kelly is joined by Maureen Callahan, host of "The Nerve," to discuss explosive new details in Princess Diana’s brother’s newest book about his sister and her life and death, the possibility of Diana having Borderline Personality Disorder, and more.
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AI GeneratedThe speakers discuss allegations from Earl Charles Spencer's upcoming book, *Swan Song*, regarding Princess Diana. They analyze claims about Prince Charles's cold reaction to her death, Diana's alleged mental health struggles, and the complex, often cruel dynamics within both the Royal and Spencer families.
What is your favorite so far headline out of the Earl Spencer?
I mean, the the shocking, you know, line about everyone's going to forget about her soon enough.
Just so the audience knows, that's the allegation that the book isn't even out yet. But the
allegation is that this book, which is called Swan Song, Diana, my sister, has many jaw dropping
moments in it. But the biggest one is where he allegedly heard from then Prince Charles
after Diana died, and they were having an argument about how the funeral was going to go,
that Prince Charles said, rest assured, we'll forget her soon enough. So that's got to be the
biggest one. But there are a lot of favorites in there. I think so, too. And when I read that,
initially, I thought the wheel, it wasn't just about the family. I thought he was talking about
the nation. Yeah, I took it like that. Yes. And then the detail that Charles Spencer gave,
which was that Charles, Prince Charles sounded almost giddy. Yeah, like elated. There's such
specificity with it that I tend to believe has the ring of truth. And let's face it.
They had an ugly divorce. She was on TV about him. He wasn't really doing as much because he,
of course, was the queen's son. But she was kind of vocal when she decided she wasn't going to take
any more abuse from the palace lying down. Did that famous now infamous interview with Martin
Scheer and made him look bad. So in any divorce, like I always say, you know, when you're truly
married, it's not when you mail the invitations. It's not when you get your wedding license.
It's not when you walk down the aisle even and take your vows. It's when you have a kid
with somebody. You are married to that person in a very real way for the rest of your lives.
Love or hate them. You're going to have to deal with them around every holiday,
your kid's birthdays. They're constantly there. So, I mean, I'm sure he couldn't stand her.
So I kind of do believe it because of all that, that he probably, like not that he was wishing
her dead, but that he wasn't exactly all that torn up about it. Right. That has the ring of
truth to me too. Of course that he would be sad for his voice. Of course. Yeah. But that
this, this was, it's, it's very short sighted in a way. It's actually very Prince Charles to think
that, oh, the problem is gone. You know, we're about to stop to, to mark rather Diana's the
30th anniversary of her death next year. She, in fact, she became more iconic in death.
Yeah. He, he has a low EQ. He does. He really does. Right. He really,
do you think William has a higher EQ? Yes, I do too. Yeah, I do. Yeah. And I think Harry,
like, I do believe Diana had mental problems as is alleged in this. And cause Earl Spencer, Earl,
that's his title. Right. His name is also Charles. So the whole thing gets, gets confusing.
Diana apparently called him Carlos, Earl Charles Spencer. So that's what we're going to call him
to keep things straight. Sounds good. There's King Charles and then there's Carlos, the Earl.
Sounds great. Who's gone rogue, but he, he wasn't very good to Diana himself. And we'll get to all
that. See, he's not, he's not exactly, you know, in a place where he can cast stones when it comes
to the treatment of her. But one of the things he allegedly told her was you're mentally ill.
Like, I don't think you're mentally well. And he was right. I mean, Diana was a mess
and those genes were passed directly down to Harry. I think Diana was a borderline.
She, to me is textbook borderline where it's, it's, it can be confused with bipolar because
the mood swings are rapid and dramatic. You can go from a very, very high, high to a very low,
low. Some of the histrionics, I think she probably also had histrionic personality disorder. Yes.
Remember in the Andrew Morton book, which she also denied having anything to do with. Meanwhile,
she's like smuggling tapes in and. Oh, she also allegedly hated the paparazzi,
but she was the one who fed them. Here's where I'm going to be, where you can find me.
And that's what Harry doesn't understand that she played the paps just as well as
they wanted to be with her. She, she had like private phone communiques with editors and
reporters at tabloid newspapers. Yeah. You know, it's like she, she knew how to sort of work that
machine and she liked it. She liked it. Why does no other celebrity constantly get photographed
in her gym wear on the way in or out of the gym? Oh, I know. What could it be Maureen?
I know it's, it's wild. They've played the game. That's okay. It's fine. It's fine. You like it.
You like being photographed all the time, but then stop lecturing us Harry all the time about
how my poor mother, she was stalked by the paparazzi. She wanted to be stalked. She wanted
the attention. She did. And you know, I'm sure we'll get to it, but that sort of is, is why I
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what a borderline personality disorder is. I know it's bad. You don't want it and you don't want
it necessarily in your closest friend group or your family. Yeah. But what like, I guess we should
look it up. Like what exactly, what else characterizes that? It's characterized. Um, I find
most distinctly by explosive rages that come out of nowhere. So I could be, if I have it right. And
I'm having a conversation with you say we're having drinks and you say to me, you know, Maureen, I'm
not quite sure about X, Y, or Z maybe something I've asked your opinion on. And I would say,
you know what, Megan, forget it. I'll never talk to you about it again. Clearly you don't
understand what I need from you in this. But like, it's like that it's like, I do know somebody like
you do. Yeah. That's pretty much. So whenever somebody says to me, like they have a family
member or a friend who like there's been a conflict and that's where I'll always go.
You might want to read up a little bit on it because it's not, it's marked by real,
really extreme emotional dysregulation. And the other, um, really market characteristic of it is
it's, it's a kind of, I love you. I hate you. Don't leave me thing, right? Yes. I know that I
do know a person like that. Yeah. Yeah. My crack team is sending me information. Let's see if it's
on personality disorder, borderline personality disorder. Yes, here it is. They say, um, people
with borderline personality disorder experience deep emotional pain and often show at least five
of these key signs, fear of abandonment, extreme efforts to avoid real or perceived rejection,
unstable relationships, quick shifts from extreme closeness to intense anger or hate,
unstable self image, rapidly changing goals, values, and opinions about oneself, impulsive
behaviors, dangerous acts like reckless driving, overspending or substance use self harm or
suicidal behavior, threats, cutting suicide attempts, mood swings, intense emotions lasting
from a few hours to a few days. Oh, and also chronic emptiness. God, this actually does sound
like Diana, to be honest. It really does. And you know, one of the really, um, there was so much
packed into that first extract that was leaked in the mail. Charles Carlos rather writes that, um,
you know, you do have to wonder how close they really were because if he really were close to
her, he would have kept this. He would have taken this stuff to his grave. Yes. That she would drive
to like one specific cliff side more than once and contemplate throwing herself off. Yes. I would
never betray someone like that. I know that now that is dirty pool to talk about how they, how
many times they considered killing themselves, someone this famous and this beloved. I mean,
I know he's trying to say that's how bad the Royals are. They're the ones who drove her to this,
but does it really add that much? We already know that the Royals did not treat Diana well,
and she created a lot of the problems for herself too. You know, and by the way,
you were a prick too. You know, like she, she begged him or Carlos to let her live on his
massive estate when, you know, she'd been kicked out of the Royal family, the divorce, it was bad.
She didn't have a place to go. She comes to that Spencer family is like totally blue blooded,
you know, perfect pedigree. And they are, they had their own Royal thing going on. In fact,
Tom Bowers, who's reporting on the Royals, you know, a biographer for years said they believe
their bloodline is superior to the bloodline of the Royal family. And so she goes to Carlos,
part of that bloodline, a Spencer and says, can you let me live in these relatively small quarters
on the grounds that had been used by a staffer? And he said, no, we have, look, we have a picture
of it. I mean, for you or for me, it'd be very nice, but like for princess Diana, as the former,
you know, Prince of England and the mother of the future King, you know, it's on the small side
and it's on his enormous estate in which he lives like a King himself, Carlos does. So look at this
little thing. And he said, no. And, you know, if I'm correct, I believe that Alford is the Spencer
ancestral home. So he, however, it worked out in the line of descendants and who was willed what,
I guess, had control over it. Male heir always gets things, not anymore, but that's the way it's
been for hundreds of years. I know it's crazy. It's so insane. But if we didn't have that,
we wouldn't have some of the great works from Jane Austen that are based right there. Oh,
opening of Sense and Sensibility. Fair enough. But yes, the cruelty of that, you know, and
the other thing that struck me in that extract is he, it opens with, he gets a call in the middle
of the night. He's told Diana's had an accident. It's, it's, it's their sister, Jane. Yeah. Whose
husband, Robert Fellows is Queen Elizabeth's private secretary. Right. So she knows she's
got it in. She's got it in. And so he, and, and the, but the conversation isn't heightened. He
thinks, oh, she broke a leg. It's she'll be fine. And then goes and turns on the TV and joins the
rest of the world in watching and learning of the horror. And then he says, he's back on the phone
with Jane, the sister who says, well, that's it. It's curtains. I know. Duchess dead. Who?
To never talk like that. It was so it's, it's almost like if you were writing this as like
season six of the crown, someone would mark that like a Netflix executive would be like,
there's no way they speak like this. There's no, but apparently that's why I think it's true.
I'm just thinking about like the awfulness, God forbid anything were ever to happen to me.
And like you call Doug and he's like, Maureen, it's curtains.
It's curtains. No one talks like that.
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