REVEALED: Why did Prince Harry and Meghan Markle PULL their children out of their new schools?

The only people that would be to blame for this, if anyone is going to point a finger, would be their own security team. I don't mean to accuse Harry's team of doing this. If you look at patterns of behaviour of what Harry has done in the past, it wouldn't surprise me that he'd want to bring the public conversation around to security. Hello and welcome to this GB News original special, and Harry and Meghan have pulled their kids out of school after just two days over security concerns. What does it all mean? Why do we know? Why do we need to know? Well, somebody who does know the answer to that, hopefully, is royal journalist Pandora Forsyth, who joins me now. Good morning to you, Pandora. Hello, Cameron. Thanks for having me. So when I first read this last night, I thought, if you are a parent who wants to keep your children safe, why is it that we're being briefed that both the children have been taken out of one school and put into another one? That was my first thought. Exactly that. And from a forward planning perspective, given the fact that Harry and Meghan have been so open, especially Harry, about security, it does make me question why wasn't there a forward planning process to trial out this route for the school once they had an understanding of just how busy that area would have been and foreseen that issue, which they have now been presented with? And of course, now this is a story because we will hear about whether they'll get continued security funds, essentially. So I imagine it's incredibly frustrating for Harry and Meghan, and I can only imagine that they will be not best pleased about the fact that the security hadn't thought of this. But I'm quite surprised they hadn't thought of this either. But to be fair to them, they've been out the country for several years now, and perhaps they're not well equipped with just how busy school run roads do get. Well, exactly. And they were saying that the decision, of course, to move across from the United States so quickly was rushed because they suddenly got these two places at this specific school. The recce that was done by their own private security team was done during the school holidays. Funnily enough, the area around the school isn't busy during the school holidays. Then suddenly you get to day one of term, and they're stuck in traffic to the point where their backup car, the convoy that they insist on having, got separated from the principal car, the principal Range Rover, where Harry and Meghan and presumably the two children were inside. So that was their worry. And that's why the security, their private security team said, I think this is a bad idea, especially if this is going to be a regular school run and people can pinpoint exactly where you are. And there is the risk that you are going to be separated from us because of the heavy traffic. But nonetheless, I think the next question to ask is, well, the Prince and Princess of Wales, as far as I'm aware, when they do the school run for Princess Charlotte and Prince Louis, of course, George is now boarding at Eton, they don't have police motorbikes. They don't have the blue flashing lights on their cars. They sit in traffic like everybody else. OK, they've got an armed police officer with them. There's still a risk that they're going to be separated and probably quite often they are. So I suppose the cynic would say, well, what's the difference with Harry and Meghan here? The difference is that they do have that armed police officer with them, for which Harry and Meghan currently in their particular security circumstances do not and are not allowed to have. And that is their particular point of contention. And above all else, Harry has made it quite clear that his wife Meghan and his children are the reason as to why that he needs that security arrangement. But it all links and comes as part of this wider picture, which is why this is such a big story today. And actually, they wanted to keep the children out of the spotlight. But this is actually just highlighted even more about potential locations, potentially where they are and potentially school runs for everything that they did not want to happen. And unfortunately for Harry and Meghan, the only people that could be to blame for this, if anyone is going to point a finger, would be their own security team, which is why it links back to that publicly funded potential security arrangement. Now, if they had that, then would this have even have happened? That is the question. And one which I imagine is at the very forefront of Harry's mind today. Yeah, and we've been well, it's been reported, at least, that Harry and Meghan have both been added to the parents WhatsApp groups. And we all know that parents WhatsApp groups. Yes, and certainly is a hub of gossip, especially especially for the yummy mummies of the Cotswold. So I think that's going to be a challenge for them. But also, I mean, I don't know about you, Pandora, but I feel really sorry for Prince Archie and Princess Elizabeth. I know. Because at what, seven and five, they've not only moved from California to a completely different culture to the Cotswolds, they get settled into a school for two days before their parents pull them out and put them in a whole new school. I mean, it must have been because surely that would have been going through the Prince Harry and Meghan's minds as well about the welfare of the children when they made this decision. I'm joined now by the founder and CEO of Tally Money, Cameron Parry. So what is Tally Money and what does it do? So you get an everyday account in your individual name, you get an account number and sort code. 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That is always at the forefront of their minds, and this is why it's such a unfortunate situation to have happened, because ultimately it will disrupt now what was going to be their first full week in a school. And now they're being pulled out of that, and it's extremely disruptive. And now they'll have to explain to their children as to why they're having to move, which they could potentially speak about security arrangement with them. How would that work in terms of the conversation there? You are being moved because of security arrangements. And of course, any child, very inquisitive, will ask, well, why do we need X, Y, Z security? That's a really difficult conversation for Harry and Meghan to have to navigate as parents. And really, I do feel sorry for them in that aspect. But this is why they need to have staff, advisors around them who are giving them the right information. And let's put security to the side for a minute and their children. This has been the consistent challenge with Harry and Meghan, is having those right advisors around them for seeing challenges like this, which have now cropped up. And unfortunately, this will now directly affect their children. Of course, it could have been worse in terms of they're only two days into a new school term. And how many friends would they have made within those few days? That is a question that we can't answer. But of course, now they'll be able to go somewhere, which will enable them to develop friendships there. And hopefully, it won't have caused too much damage. And to be fair to the education system and everybody who does work at that school, they also noted a statement to say they very much are thankful for everything that they did and the parents. And of course, the disruption that Harry and Meghan brought into that school and that community around that school, and for which they are genuinely apologetic for. But, you know, as you said, these WhatsApp groups are small and the Cotswolds, everybody seems to know one another. So I'm sure this is only added to the gossip mill of Harry and Meghan moving across, which is what they wanted to avoid. Oh, to be a fly on the wall in that country set in the Cotswolds. Of course, Harry and Meghan said they don't blame the school at all. And the school have been really, really supportive. And it's simply the security and the traffic and yada, yada, yada. But we also find out pretty much at the same time, at least on the same evening from various sources, that the RABEC committee, the Royal and VIP Executive Committee of the Home Office, have written to Prince Harry confirming both he and Meghan are going to get separate, what we call RMV, Risk Management Boards on them. Essentially, a risk assessment on their security for the first time as non-working royals, but living in the UK. So, i.e. the first time since, what, 2019, 2020. And that's going to be happening as we speak. So it could be a situation within a matter of weeks. We find out whether they are going to be entitled to taxpayer-funded security. I mean, first of all, what do you make of these risk management boards being carried out? Was that inevitable? It wasn't inevitable because it's never been done before. So all of this is very new territory. But I think it just highlights the fact that what Harry and Meghan have done, are doing, is unheard of. And ultimately, if we know anything about Harry and Meghan, once they have their idea set on something and they want something, they will do their utmost to get it. And Harry in particular, when it comes to security and putting Harry and putting Meghan and the children first. So it does not surprise me. This pressure, you know, has come rumoured as well. Apparently Harry wrote directly to the Home Secretary about this once he had made the move across. So perhaps it was pressure there. But also this is uncharted territory and they are incredibly well known around the world. They have a history for which they have taken things to court. So of course, from a Home Office perspective, they also are well aware of that too. And they probably just want to be as fair as possible. And in order to do this, this is perhaps why they've got separate sort of cases, as it were, for individuals. And from my understanding, Meghan will be here, but I imagine she'll be flying back and forth with her solo projects. Obviously, they need to be independently financed. So potentially it'll be solo projects for which Harry is going to be on the move in a couple of days. In regards to the Invictus Games, that's UK based. But Meghan, that's not Meghan's project. Of course, she supports Harry, but that's not Meghan's project. So she needs to find also different ventures to do, for which they will have separate security arrangements for. So it doesn't surprise me they've split them up in that way. For anybody who's sort of wondering why that might be, then hopefully that explains it. Yeah, that is interesting. I hadn't thought of that. I mean, from Harry's perspective, he always says that this should be done on the risk against him and Meghan. Therefore, it doesn't matter that they're non-working members of the royal family. Harry, from his perspective, he's still fifth in line to the throne. The children are still sixth and seventh. He served two tours of Afghanistan. He said in his memoir spare, he killed X number of Taliban fighters. Therefore, he's got a target on his back. Fixated individuals, social media trolls, the list goes on. Nonetheless, if that's the case, and it's based solely on the risk, and that's what Harry wants, why is there so much briefing or appears to be briefing happening? Effectively, I think some, and I hate to use the phrase, and I don't mean to accuse Harry's team of doing this, but by putting all of this information in the public domain, in terms of changing the children's school because of the risk and the security and all the rest of it. What are they trying to do? Are they trying to pressurise the Home Office into making the decision not based on risk and based on public pressure? It could be a mixture of things. I think when it comes to security, Harry has had a history of being quite vocal in regards to this. I knew at the end of his last court case, which is obviously not active now because he lost it, he did do a broadcast interview, and Harry doesn't usually do broadcast interviews, and he did that before the end of the case. So if you look at patterns of behaviour, of what Harry has done in the past, it wouldn't surprise me that he'd want to bring the public conversation around to security, should he be the one to have leaked it. But I very much doubt he would have personally leaked it. What we have to understand is, as you said, that Cotswold said, and now they're back in the UK, and they are probably, other than the Beckhams and a couple of others, they are the new kids on the block around the Cotswold. So whatever they do is going to be looked at under a fine microscope and sent around, as you said, WhatsApp groups and so forth. But if you think from a media and PR perspective, if they want to pressurise them, and we're obviously speaking about it today, and it made in time for all of the broadcast primetime news last night, it made most of the news headlines today on front papers, pages, then they are doing the right job. The conversation has turned to that. But Harry and Meghan have had conversations turning to different topics within their lives, and it's not always been well received. So I think they're taking a risk by doing this. But of course, then, it is bringing into the forefront of this, not just Harry and Meghan. It's their children. And they are, you know, whatever you may think about Harry and Meghan, they are ultimately a prince and princess. And of course, Harry and Meghan can't use their titles for any commercial deals. But the fact of the matter is, they, you know, Duke and Duchess of Sussex, right? So they, in some people's minds, should be entitled to that publicly funded security. But what does that look like? Well, that's up to Ravik to decide. And it will be a unique deal if they are treating them as two individuals. Maybe it'll be on a case by case basis. But Harry doesn't want that. He wants it, he doesn't want it done on an application basis. He wants it continuing. And if they frame it around this story surrounding their children, then that's probably the best foot forward in order for the public to understand the position that they're in. Yeah, I mean, Harry at the moment has a police liaison telephone number. That's the level of protection the Home Office gives him. I mean, clearly, if somebody was running at his security guard with a knife, and the security guard gets taken down, and then obviously there's nothing between him and Harry, probably quicker. No, terrible. But it is an 020 number to a London Metropolitan Police Office. Nonetheless, you look at the polling and taxpayers, a vast majority, are not in favour of funding the security of Harry and Meghan. But it may get to a situation where they don't have a choice. Because if something did happen to the couple or indeed the children at school, what are taxpayers going to think then? Has the state failed them? Yeah. And actually, if you think about all the things that we pay for in terms of taxpayer funded money, I'm sure there are plenty of things that people don't want to be putting in their penny for. So I think if we look at it from a human perspective, I'm sure absolutely no one would want anything to happen to innocent children. And therefore, they certainly do have a case here. It's just in terms of what exactly that is going to look like for them. Because ultimately, they are going to be in school for the majority of the time in the UK and for the foreseeable. They're not going to be leaving any time soon, that I do know. And therefore, it's not just a holiday in and out situation. They need something which is long standing and something which is going to help them should they so need. A lot of, as you said, with the Prince and Princess of Wales and their school drop-offs, they only just need that one police escort, right? I don't know how much that is in terms of the cost for the taxpayer. But let's just say it's for, let's say it's an individual application and it comes out should they, whenever they do school drop-off, they will get security. And then for other arrangements, it needs to be on an application basis. We don't know how this is going to look, but I'm sure people will be more understanding should it be something like that. Well, it's certainly a big decision for the Home Office Committee, RABEC. And just for the record, for those of you who are like, well, why can't Harry and Meghan pay for their own police protection? They're not allowed. A judge said they are not allowed because it creates a dangerous precedent that any rich individual, whether you're a Russian oligarch or a rich royal tycoon from the Middle East can effectively hire our police force for their own personal gain. So it just creates, because Harry can't be singled out, which therefore would have to be applied for anybody who's rich. And that's just a really dodgy situation to be in. And to be really clear, Harry did actually offer this. You know, he did say, he did say, can I, can I do that? So it's not like Harry is not willing to put his hand in his pocket. You know, he's well aware of the privilege that he's in, albeit it does seem to wind people up, but he is aware and he did try. But I also understand, understand why you absolutely cannot do that. You know, our public services are stretched as it is. And, and quite frankly, you need to set a precedent and that it would, if they were going to change that, it would set a legal precedent for anybody to do that. And meanwhile, all of the headlines have gone on Harry and Meghan yet again, overshadowing what Prince William is doing in Cornwall at the moment, giving back the money that he receives in rent from the government to the local community to try and elevate it. But perhaps that's for another time. Pandora Forsyth, Royal Journalist, thank you very much for joining me on GB News Originals. Thank you so much.