The Next Economic Shock Is Coming. Green Energy Is the Only Way out | Aaron Bastani Meets Tessa Khan

This summer’s weather has been record breaking in all the wrong ways. Extreme heat, droughts, crop failures, wildfires and thousands of excess deaths have left experts to realise that the climate is destabilising faster than predicted.

In the face of this undeniable crisis, what should be done? Tessa Khan is the founder of Uplift - an organisation that works to challenge the fossil fuel lobby and decarbonise our energy system before it’s too late. The former human rights lawyer realised a decade ago that none of the other social questions matter, if we don’t address the climate crisis. With family in Bangladesh, a nation with 175 million people, that is set to go underwater first, she understands what is at stake better than most. She also understands that Britain is rich in renewables, and the green transition is not just a challenge, but an opportunity to fix our broken economy.

Should Britain drill for more oil in the North Sea, or is this a distraction planted by the fossil fuel lobby? Should the energy system in Britain be nationalised? Are renewables also susceptible to economic shocks? What Can We Learn from the Transition from Oil to Gas? How Does the Ageing Population Impact Climate Politics? And what exactly should Andy Burnham do, on climate change?

0:00 Intro
2:16 Giving Up on COP?
3:22 The Truth About Britain and Norway's North Sea Oil Supply
7:20 Why Shouldn't Britain Have Norway's System?
10:45 Are Reform Misinformed or Just Don't Care?
12:39 What Are the Rosebank and Jackdaw Fossil Fuel Reserves?
16:49 Doom Is a Luxury: Why We Have to Fight Like Hell to Stop Climate Change
20:00 Has the Summer of 2026 Been a Turning Point?
23:02 Should We Have Air Conditioning?
24:10 Who Is Worse on Climate: Reform or the Tories?
26:18 What Causes Climate Denial?
28:32 Debunking Right-wing Myths About Energy Prices
31:05 Anything Can Be a Battery
31:52 The Oil and Gas Lobby
35:52 Why the UK Should Be Leading on Climate
39:22 Uplift & the Green Transition : Lobbying for the Public Interest
44:51 Should Energy Be Nationalised?
46:39 Massive Opportunities for Green Industrialisation
50:45 Are Renewables Also Vulnerable to Shocks?
54:00 How to Resist Climate Anxiety
55:26 Billionaires Think They're Safe But They're Not
57:52 What About Just Stop Oil
1:01:22 Zack Polanski's Green Party
1:04:38 What Can We Learn from the Transition from Oil to Gas?
1:06:55 The Fossil Fuel Lobby Is Destroying our Future
1:10:12 How Does the Ageing Population Impact Climate Politics?
1:12:09 How Climate Change is Impacting Southern European Tourism
1:13:12 What Should Burnham Do on Climate?

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