Never A Penalty (Lee Judges Is Not Happy) | Sunderland 0-2 Arsenal

Hi, welcome to AFTV. I've got Lee Judges, hospitality, Lee Judges with me. He was in the box today. A 2-0 win for Arsenal at the Stadium of Light. A 2-0, I wouldn't say it was a comfortable win, because at the time we saved the penalty, there was physicality in it, it was back and forth, but Arsenal showing their quality. There was a chant that they were singing. I said to Robbie, they're saying, that's why we're champions, when we scored an amazing goal from Bruno Guimaraes. But Lee, what did you make of that today? First and foremost, I've got to say, this is a tough place to come. That atmosphere in there today was insane. I don't know if you experienced it. You could hardly hear you guys up there, I'll be honest, because they were drowning it out. I imagine you were singing. But your eye up and all that. It was intimidating at the highest level, in a nice way. Tough, tough, tough place to come. I thought it was a really, really good game of football. I think 2-0 was a fair result. Some of the decision-making that we made up front was horrendous, but we got the result, because we got a solid defence. Some of the decision-making, elaborate a little bit on that. What are you saying, that the final pass was a shoot? The final pass, it was Odegaard. I don't know if it was Odegaard, or it might have been Saka. He played a ball into Saka. Should have put Timber in, who was completely unmarked. He put in Saka. Then Saka's got, Havertz has got to shoot. He cuts it back to, I don't know who he's cutting that back to. Then there was another one when Odegaard should have gone on his own. He played it to Saka, and Saka hit it straight at the goalkeeper. It was three or four things. The first half, we carved the moment with a fantastic one. Havertz puts it over the bar, and then he done something fantastic, which was a tough one. Listen, if we do not get that right, we will get punished somewhere along the line, because I think we weren't at our best today, but we got over the line. It's a sign of champions, though, isn't it? Listen, it's a sign of very good. That's the plus side of it all, because I didn't think we was that great a day. Give Mikel a little bit of credit. He could have took, I think he took- Halftime made changes. Yeah, he made changes at halftime. He could have made eight. Let's be honest. Wait, wait, wait. Lee, where are you going? What were you watching? Well, I was watching the front three for a start. Solis was all right. Solis was all right in the first half. No, no, they weren't. Miles Lewis-Skilly, I don't like to say it. It was a very poor day, giving it away. He come off. I didn't think- You started saying this was a tough place to come, and I think you should give the boys credit. Because they've had bad games. At the end of the day, it's a tough place to come. You ain't going to come over and roll in. Sometimes you don't play well. Sometimes you can't build the things you're doing. Califuri was nowhere at the level that he's been in the last few games. Why? Because they made it hard for us. Yeah, exactly. It's credit to them. So credit to them, and credit for us at some hour, we found a way. So you look at the positives from the negatives, and that's what I look at it like today. I don't like to see something like- refereeing was abysmal. Absolutely abysmal for both teams. But I like what he'd done with Gabriel, faking an injury and all that, and made him come off for a minute. Don't do it again. I have to say, but I thought realistically- So you think he got that right? Because obviously, no physios come on, so he shouldn't have to lift Phil, but because he went down, he said he was wasting time. Is that- Yes, yes, I like to see that. I don't like to see that. He's six foot four. Did you get a touch? A poke in the eye? Get up, man. That could have cost you. One day, it might, if you don't do it. Learn from it. But listen, I thought the ref was shocking. I'm around Sunderland fans. They're moaning at him. There was one in there, I don't know who it was that got booked. It was for a foul on Saka. He actually won the ball. He goes and books him. I don't know if it was the one that got sent off later on. He wasn't just crap for us. He was crap for them as well. Absolutely abysmal. Never a penalty. Never a penalty. I've seen it on telly a few times and all that. Both players are doing it. And it's funny. And it's funny. The new rule they want to- The new rule when it's Arsenal. I've seen it many a time. I've seen Gabriel being pulled down two weeks ago, right? If that is the case, why isn't that a penalty? I've had a few beers, so I don't know. But you know what I'm saying? It was both doing it. He couldn't wait. He could not wait. And at the end of the day, I'm looking at it. Listen, they're all saying it on the telly that it ain't a penalty. That even people in the Sunderland fans are going, it's 50-50. So listen, that is a classic what champions do. Because you could be in the 55th minute and whenever it was, you could be 1-0 down. In the 57th minute, we're 1-0 up with a wonderful, wonderful goal. Let's talk about it. Yeah, let's talk about it. Let's talk about it. My man in the match don't care what anybody says. Very nice. Because games, goals, win, games. End of. David Rye, though, Lee, he said what he was meant to do. Oh, you can't say. Don't do that. I'm going to go on about the penalty. Yes. He saved a great save. Did he save it or did he hit the post? You're taking liberties. He saved it. And he made a double save in the game that kept us in the game as well at the time. Listen, he had a very, very good game. I'm not saying that he didn't. But you think Bruno... Bruno come on and change that game in the second half. Maybe because I'm not a goalkeeper. Yeah, yeah, maybe. I'm a midfield player. But I tell you what, probably like you're saying, if David Rye don't play, we don't win that game. But I don't think if he don't come on, we don't win. It's a wonderful goal. Can David Rye score a goal like that? With his distribution, I mean, he might have it in his locker room. I'll tell you what, I will say with David Rye a lot, which he's done, he made a pass out to Saka. I know. Oh my God. But that's what he's there to do. Bruno, that's what he's meant. He's a scorer. Can you see what Bruno's done today? Look, go back and watch it. No, I know. He was in tight positions, right? Right decision every single time. Hostile atmosphere as well. They'll burn him every time. Did you see the booing that he got when he came out to warm up? I had to go inside of him. Frightened for him. But no, what a response. I'll tell you what, Declan Rice's little five-yard ball, which gets an assist. Right weight. Right pass. Bang. Goal. Captain, Martin Odegaard today, he's still very good. I thought he played well today. I thought he played well today. I'll tell you what, some good stuff that he'd done. I thought they gave him a few little kicks and everything like that. What I liked about that, he wasn't rolling around and that. He gets on with it. Can I ask you what, Mikata, actually, just before we close, he made subs early. He threw Timber in. That's not an easy game to walk back into. No, and credit to him for that. Credit to Timber, by the way. I thought it was brilliant when he I'm going to give Ben White a little bit of a pass because he's played three or four games and played midweek. He looks a little bit jaded and all that. Ruthless by Mikel, by the way. Half-time ruthless. But I think it was, well, he's proved it. He's proved it right by getting the result. If we lose that game, you could probably go, oh, you know what you're doing or whatever. But no, listen. No, I don't think anyone was saying half-time make change. No, I don't think anyone was. It was the writers. Well, you were. Oh, yes. Oh, yes, I was. And I'll tell you what, when we missed that penalty, when we had the penalty, I thought, oh, this might liven us up a little bit. Thankfully, he saves it and that did give us a little kick up because we went up the other end and scored. Listen, all what I've said and everything, it's a tough place. I don't care what anybody says today. Our defence today, right, and this is where I go on about our front three, right. Our defence are going to get on that coach. They have been worked. They have been bullied. They've been pushed and they've been shoved. They've had a tough game. Their centre-halves and defence have not had what they've had. They've not had that. No, that's the fair point. They've not had that, you know what I mean? Koza, brilliant. But what a battle he was in today. What a battle that was today. That was going back to the old-school games, that was like, you know what I mean? Both giving it. I loved the little bit with him and Xhaka and all. Oh, that was... I loved it. Gabriel's holding Xhaka. He's becoming my favourite player, you know what I mean? Like, he was superb. But he had to be at his very, very best today, you know what I mean? So, brilliant performance. We'll leave it there. Thank you very much to you, Wellstead. Yeah, we're live, mate.