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The podcast hosts welcome actress Joey King for a wide-ranging conversation. They discuss their shared history from the Teen Choice Awards, Joey's childhood passion for skateboarding in Simi Valley, and the complexities of growing up as a child actor. The episode also explores sibling dynamics, the importance of professional boundaries, and Joey's personal life, including her rescue dog and travel anxieties.
You know, one of the coolest things about, oh wow, you got a new sound, new sound alert.
What is the coolest thing?
One of the coolest things about doing this podcast is you get access to movies before
they're out.
Yeah.
That's the only reason we're doing it.
Yeah.
I just want that.
Like we used to get those sag screeners.
Remember the DVDs we used to get?
Yeah.
That was big.
They cut up your card years ago.
That's why you don't get those anymore.
Oh, is that what happened?
That's right.
Yeah.
But now we get early films and we get to watch them and make up our minds if we like or dislike.
That's true.
Be the first people on, what's that?
Oh my God.
I'm blanking.
What's the thing?
The app?
Letterboxd.
We can be the first ones on Letterboxd.
Start reviewing early.
Do you have a Letterboxd account?
I do.
Do you actually review movies?
Yeah.
That's what you do.
I have not really started yet, but I feel like you'd be really into it, Nick.
Just people don't know I have one, but I've been reviewing.
Oh, interesting.
I'd like to follow you.
What was the last movie you reviewed?
Let's find out.
Hold, please.
Let's see what we got here in the old Letterboxd.
I need to do more Letterboxd-ing.
The last one I did, because I'm trying to be really honest.
Here we go.
This is why you don't want to be public, because you're super critical.
I like it.
Always have been.
Films.
Wow.
These are all my movies I've reviewed.
Wow.
He's got some films.
I think Apex was the last one and Hail Mary.
Hail Mary.
Obviously.
Yeah.
So I went kind of like deep on the films that I love.
Yeah.
Well, I really enjoyed the film that we're about to talk to the actress that's in this
film.
It's amazing.
I enjoyed the first ones so much.
Back in the day, me and Danielle watched Practical Magic, the original.
And it's a cult classic.
30 years ago, you guys watched that?
Yeah.
It's like, you know, back in the day when we were infants, we watched it actually not
too long ago.
Probably the last couple of years around Halloween time.
It's a very Halloween-y film.
It is.
Because, you know, it's about witches.
You said weenie.
Uh-huh.
I did say weenie.
I didn't say weiner, but I said weenie.
But now.
Good one.
Clip it.
But now.
And we're back.
Wow.
But now there's another one.
There's another one.
Practical Magic 2.
It took them 30 years.
They had to get this next guest born to be in the movie.
It's true.
She had to grow up.
She must be born and grow up.
Well, in the first movie, the main actress, Sandra Bullock, and Nicole Kidman, Sandra
Bullock has children.
Heard of them.
They need to grow up to be where they are in this film.
So it's actually perfectly timed for the sequel.
Perfectly timed.
And of course, our guest today.
So exciting.
Our friend, Miss Joey King.
Yeah.
Hi.
Hello.
There she is.
Live studio audience.
Hi, Joey.
What's up?
I'm sorry I'm not there in person.
Yeah.
What the hell?
We're so happy that you're on the podcast.
Thank you so much for doing this.
Thanks for having me.
You guys, I want to start by saying, I don't know if you know this, but you guys were my
first concert that I ever went to in my whole life.
No way.
Where at?
Yes.
Okay.
I don't remember where they held the Teen Choice Awards for like 2000 to 2010.
I believe that was at Gibson Amphitheater.
It's not longer there.
Now it's Harry Potter World, but it was in Universal.
That's right.
It is.
Yeah.
Okay.
So it was the Gibson Amphitheater.
And that was my first ever concert.
And I saw you guys.
Wow.
That's so cool.
We have a photo.
Painstakingly.
You do?
We have a photo.
Oh, I know exactly what picture this is.
Yeah.
So you know the photo.
Yeah.
So this is 2008 probably?
2007?
Yeah.
I've got a really good fake tan going.
Yeah.
This was one of the times that I waited outside to meet the peeps, the famous peeps at the
Teen Choice Awards.
My ancestors.
You're crushing it.
Yeah.
Me and my wife were talking about this photo earlier.
We were guessing how old you were.
How old were you in this?
Six to nine.
Right?
Somewhere in there?
In 2008?
Yeah.
In 2008, I was eight or nine.
Yeah.
Okay.
So pretty close.
That's good.
Yeah.
You look like the age of our oldest daughter.
Our youngest daughter.
Sorry.
And then, yeah.
So that was what I was thinking.
Who else were you waiting for then?
I mean, I don't know who you mean.
It was a scoop.
Who was nice and who was not?
Let's start there.
It was you guys.
In your entire career.
No.
At that show, was there somebody you were like, oh, I really hope I get to meet them?
Kelly Clarkson.
Oh.
Totally.
Love.
Which was amazing.
Since You've Been Gone was going off.
Since You've Been Gone.
Who else?
I'm trying to remember.
That was like my-
High School Musical, they were there as well.
Oh, yeah.
Zach and Hannah.
Oh, yeah.
The entire cast was there.
Yes.
By the way, which 100%, Vanessa, Zach, all that jazz.
But that was, I can't, I was just painstakingly looking through my mom's phone trying to find
a picture of the concert that I went to.
Because remember what I wore, too?
You guys had merch out that was like purple, orange, yellow, pink ombre of the cutout of
you guys, the silhouette.
Wow.
Good memory.
Yes.
And I wore that.
And I was just literally all morning, I was like this through my mom's phone trying to
find a picture, but I couldn't find one.
And I don't remember if it was before 2008 or after 2008, but I think it was before.
I think my first concert ever was when I was like eight years old, so it must have been
around then.
That makes us feel so-
That is so wild.
Wow.
We're so grateful for that.
Thank you.
And at that time, you were-
You want to say old or grateful?
Be honest.
That makes us feel so old and grateful.
Old and grateful.
You know, thinking back to the Teen Choice Awards, though, because I don't know that
it's really as much a thing now as it was, I'm not sure.
Is it a thing at all anymore?
I'm not sure.
I don't know if it is.
They ran out of surfboards.
Tell me if I'm wrong, but wasn't there a category that was just like hottest guy and hottest
girl and how inappropriate-
Yeah.
Is that?
And best kiss.
Yeah.
And they'd always remake the kiss.
No, it was Teen Choice Awards, too.
There was that category.
I think you're right, Kevin.
I think it was-
Thank you.
Thank you, Joey.
Yes.
Best teen.
Yeah.
Just best teen.
Hottest.
Yeah.
The problem is-
Hottest teen.
It's a problem.
Very strange that that was a thing.
Yeah.
That sounds like-
I know.
I feel like the Teen Choice Awards, though, it was like all that-
It was like everything, though.
It was, yeah.
They were handing out surfboards left and right.
It truly-
Everything.
Yeah.
Especially because my-
So my sisters are a little bit older than me.
They're six and seven years older than me, and so everything they were into, I was into.
And they were-
Six, seven.
What was it?
They were so obsessed with the Teen Choice Awards, as was I.
And then as I got older, I got to attend a few times, and I remember my heart was racing
being an attendee.
I wasn't nominated for anything.
I was just going.
And I was like, oh my God.
So cool.
This is like-
I peaked.
This is everything I've ever wanted in my life.
You peaked.
I think there was a lot more in your career after that.
Yeah.
I didn't know that, though.
At the time, I was just like, this is what-
This is it, guys.
I'm going to-
I got to the Teen Choice Awards.
We actually-
I remember a very cringe moment that we hosted the Teen Choice Awards.
Just one cringe moment?
Yeah.
And they put us on the rigging and had us flying up in the air at one point.
There was a gag where we were going to start after the commercial break.
It was-
Actually, I have a sound bite.
And we're back.
And after the break, we were hanging above the-
When you read that in a script, when you're getting it,
because we were reading through this,
we're like, oh, that's going to be so fun.
Because I don't know why the bit was-
Why were we flying up in the air?
I'm not really sure.
They had to rig us before the commercial break,
and the commercial breaks were quite long.
So we were just floating-
So we were just hanging up there.
Above the audience.
And it was just so embarrassing.
Yeah.
You were just hanging up there.
By the way, too, like, you know, obviously-
Like a piñata.
Back during the Teen Choice Awards,
everyone had kissed everyone.
Everyone had dated everyone.
And you're just like hanging in a harness over like everyone you know.
The drama was real.
The lore had to go so deep.
And it's like, it's so much worse when you're like,
in like an adult, like, harness diaper,
and you're just like hanging over all your peers, friends, enemies,
and you're just like, like, what did I agree to?
Like, I know, I know what you're mean-
I know what you felt.
I know what you mean.
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We're so thrilled that you're on the pod with us.
If you don't mind me asking,
where are you Zooming from or calling in from?
I'm Zooming from my mom's best friend's house.
Nice.
Once I'm done with this, we're playing Mahjong all day.
Cause I have like, yeah, it's really nice.
I've got like a very busy month coming up with like press
and just like work and stuff.
So it's really nice to be able to kind of have like days
where we're just doing like family stuff.
Last night I went to go see my niece
who was 10 months old and just hung out all day there.
Like, you know, it's just like family time is so great.
And so, especially when you're like
sandwiched by such busyness.
Yeah.
So where did you grow up then?
I grew up in Simi Valley, California.
Simi heads, rise up, what's up?
Rise up.
Have you guys spent much time in Simi Valley?
Because I know that a lot of people
shot music videos out there.
We shot the Hold On music video out there.
And I shot a TV show with my brother Franklin out there
at the Hummingbird Nest Ranch.
Claim to fame.
Yes, of course.
The Hummingbird Nest Ranch, yes.
Did you guys ever go to Skate Lab out there
when it was open?
Skate Lab?
I don't think so.
That sounds very cool.
I don't think we were cool enough to go to Skate Lab.
They wouldn't let us in.
Yeah, probably not.
Just, you know, you're probably right.
You're not cool enough.
No, it's not there anymore,
but it was kind of like one of our claim to fames
in Simi Valley.
It was the largest indoor skate park in North America.
Sounds like somewhere I would have loved to go.
It was pretty spectacular.
It kept like-
Did you skate, Joey?
You were a skater?
I was.
I did skateboard a lot when I was younger.
Cool.
I had to make a decision after I got hurt many, many times,
whether I wanted to be doing that
or whether I wanted to be an actress.
Or have a successful career as an actress, yes.
I think I want to be an actress.
I got hurt a lot of times while I was working
and then I got in trouble.
Yeah, you can't do that.
Entrance coming through.
As your skateboarding abilities come in handy,
like on any films,
have you been able to skateboard?
You're like, I got this.
It's like, is that in your resume?
I actually learned how to skate for a movie
when I was younger
and then that's kind of what got me into it.
And then I just happened to live five minutes away
from this fabulous place for most of my teens.
That's so, I would have loved to live in a place like that.
And it was really great.
But we were very, like, you know,
Tony Hawk came there sometimes,
Justin Bieber skated there sometimes.
So that's why I asked,
because like, it was kind of a weirdly,
like a hotspot occasionally.
I remember this place
because we grew up being huge skaters now
and that you're bringing it up.
Like, it was like considered like Woodward of the West.
Like we had Woodward out by us in Pennsylvania,
which was like the,
if you were a skater, you went there for camp.
Do you remember Woodward?
No, it was never that good.
Okay, okay.
Well, it was the place to go.
I know, Squidward.
Okay.
That's something.
My favorite clarinet playing squid.
Oh, the best.
So grumpy.
What a talent, you know, what a talent.
So please tell us, we are so,
I'm so happy for you with Practical Magic 2.
Yeah, congratulations.
It's so awesome.
So exciting.
The first one is incredible, obviously,
but now, so many years later,
you had to wait for the girls to grow up
and you're the perfect passing for this.
How did you guys decide
on who gets to do the sound effects?
They just gave it to Joe
when we started doing this.
Does it rotate every time?
No, it is.
And I have new ones each time.
It's really annoying.
No, I think you're doing a great job.
You seem like the kind of person
who would have used the privilege.
I did request that.
I had an offline email to the producers
and I said, hey guys.
It's like, I'm not great at talking.
Can you give me, give me buttons.
Make this easy.
I have a great-
My brain is going everywhere.
It gives me something fun to look at
and like, what's, ooh, what's this button?
Is it reloaded?
It's a new one.
What's your-
That's the newest one.
Wait, what is this?
Pikachu.
What does it say?
Pikachu.
What does that say?
Pikachu.
It's Pikachu saying Pikachu.
It kind of sounds like it's a Pokemon character.
A little bit.
It kind of sounds like, **** you.
I thought it was like, bless you.
And I was like-
Oh, or it's bless you.
Actually, that's good to know.
So if at any point, if I use it,
it's either bless if you sneeze
or say something that I think-
What do you guys-
Because by the way,
I want to talk about practical magic, of course.
No, we will.
It's okay.
We love, this is all we do.
We just sit around and talk ----.
So it's perfect.
Yeah.
But you know, I have, I come from,
so you are three brothers.
I come from three sisters.
Which is like, you know, it's the best.
Yeah.
And worst.
But what do you guys do if like,
like, I mean, what if it happened today?
What if you guys have like a huge fight
before you have to go interview someone?
Before we go interview someone,
we cancel the interview.
You do?
No, of course not.
Like, I think at this point,
we've learned to just call it out.
Like, what's wrong?
Why are you upset?
Or like, sorry, sorry if that was offensive.
Oh, healthy, boring.
Healthy, boring stuff.
But there's times when we're definitely holding grudges
and those days off are spent alone.
Meditation, therapy, these types of things.
And you know what always helps?
You know what always helps, Joey?
That'll keep you together.
Oh, there you go.
I was like, sound effects?
Sound effects.
Money and sound.
By the way, sound effects, that is,
I mean, listen,
I was like the class clown of my family.
I was like, whenever there was tension,
I'd be like, hey, look at me.
And so I was like, miss sound effects
when everyone was like fighting.
I'd be like, wah, wah, wah.
Well, same question then goes for you.
Like, how do you deal with your family?
You guys obviously are all in the business
for the most part.
And so let's get some names here.
Your sister's names are?
Hunter King and Kelly King.
Great names.
Hunter and Kelly.
Like, how do you guys deal with conflict as a family?
Like, I know like, we pretty much have to like,
you know, head it off at the pass right away.
Do you guys like, do that too?
Or do you guys bury it, call mom, vent?
We're low-key conflict avoidant, to be honest.
But some of, I mean, Hunter, God bless her.
She's so conflict avoidant.
Like, she just, she's such a sweet pie,
such a lover, so thoughtful.
She would rather die than say that you upset her.
So, but she like, lets it go.
She doesn't hold onto it.
Kelly's more like, you upset me, that was weird.
Screw you, let's talk about it.
I'm like, cool.
Me, I don't know.
I feel like I kind of just like, let them do their thing.
It's rare that they upset me to the degree
where I'm like, I need to talk to them about it.
But you know what's interesting is like,
okay, so I'm obsessed with my sisters.
I love them so much.
Of course, we like, annoy each other sometimes
and get into it.
But I feel like there's like, a sibling thing
where it's like, you know if you're like,
mom is yelling at your sibling,
and even if you're annoyed with your sibling,
you just like, won't let that slide.
It's like, only you can yell at your sibling.
So like, that's kind of our relationship
where it's like, oh my God, I'm obsessed with my mom too.
But if my mom is like, ragging on one of my sisters,
I'm like, dad, you can't do that here.
That is not welcome here.
Like, that is, you do not talk about her like that.
Only I talk about her like that.
That's great that you have each other's backs like that.
It's like, to a degree where it's like,
it is the classic like, no one can talk to you like that
except for me vibes.
Which I think is like, it's sweet.
It's really nice.
It's cool to have people that are built into your life
that like, no matter what,
you will see them grow up and become like,
there's definitely phases of life with your siblings
where you're like, oh, like, I wonder if that was my friend
if we would have stayed friends,
or if we would have stayed-
We always talk about this.
Yeah, it's like-
Will we really be friends if we weren't siblings?
And there's phases where you're like-
What's the answer to that?
I don't think so.
Yeah, what was the answer?
I think we wouldn't, I think we are all so different.
We are pretty different.
And there's like-
Me and my sisters too, yeah.
I feel like that's the reason we're siblings.
And also because our parents had sex.
They did indeed.
But nature nurtures, so interesting,
nature does so much.
And I feel like there's phases of life for sure
where I'm like, I don't know
if we would have stayed friends.
Like, that's like, you know, who knows?
But like, because, and we're all in a phase right now
where we're like, best friends, so tight.
100% would be friends in real life kind of vibe.
But like, because we've gone through those phases
where we weren't sure, and now we're here,
it's like cool to have like a forest almost,
in a good way, front row seat,
to like people's lives that, you know,
maybe you otherwise wouldn't have because of blood,
which is like-
How often do you get to see your siblings?
A lot.
We live very close to each other.
My oldest sister, especially because of the new baby,
I go over to the house probably like,
I try to go like twice as I can.
Oh yeah, that's exciting.
Thank you, babies are dope.
Like, I love this kid.
She's so awesome.
So I see Kelly like twice a week probably.
And Hunter travels a lot for work, as do I.
So it's like when she's in town,
I'll try to see her like two to three times a week.
The best parts of each other, you know?
Nah, but then we'll go out of town for a long time.
But we FaceTime and talk on the phone like most,
like four times a week probably.
That's great, lovely.
Just to be like-
Me and Joe are gym FaceTimers, like and callers.
Yeah, we catch up.
That's when we catch up.
Yeah, you're on the treadmill.
I'm on the treadmill.
You're walking.
I'm walking.
And I'm waking up.
So it's not-
That's what I do with my, I do gym stuff too.
It's like when I'm on the tread,
I'm like, oh, I'm so bored.
Let me talk to my sister.
Yeah, somebody distract me.
It's great, it helps.
Because I feel like maybe sisters are just like this,
but maybe brothers are too.
Like what you do talk about can just vary.
It can just be like, oh, my like,
I dropped my Stanley cup today and it chipped.
Like genuinely, like nothing.
It's Stanley talk.
It's literally nothing.
Yeah.
It's a hell of a lot of nothing.
I mean, there's usually-
Me and you would talk,
we can talk about nothing for a long time.
I'm not a big nothing talker.
No, no, Nick's like pretty,
he calls and you know you're going to talk about something
and then you're going to hang up.
It's amazing.
I respect that.
I was watching you in the car.
I think you called or your wife called or you called
and you're like, hey, sleep well?
Great, all right, talk to you later, bye.
Love you.
And I was like, wow.
Yeah, exactly.
And it was efficient, it was lovely.
And it was like, we're good.
And that's how it is.
With Nick, it's like, he's like, what's up?
This morning I called you.
I'm like, hey, what's up?
Like, hey.
I'm like, do you want to go to the gym?
And you're like, yeah, I'm going to eat first.
I'm like, all right, see you in the gym.
You're nailing the voice, by the way.
The voice is spot on.
It's just direct.
Kevin's like, hey, I'm.
You want to talk, he wants to get into it.
I want to like, I want to know all the things
I don't need to know.
Like, why?
Yes, I'm.
Am I your first call or second call?
You're my first call.
Oh, wow.
Well, it's because you're on the East Coast.
How does that make you feel?
I'm on the East.
No, because I can talk for longer.
You were on the East Coast earlier.
I don't mind at all.
You can talk earlier.
You don't mind at all?
I've got stuff I'm doing.
I'm doing stuff.
It's okay.
He's busy, he's a busy man.
Wait, okay, forgive me for not remembering this
off the top of my head.
Joe, you're the youngest, right?
I am youngest at heart.
Nick's the youngest.
Oh, Nick, you're the youngest.
We have another brother, Franklin Jonas,
who's the youngest.
Well, yeah, of course, the youngest of you three
is what I am.
Yeah, yeah.
So the youngest, so it goes Kevin, me, Nick, Franklin.
Okay.
Yeah.
But would you have thought that Joe was the youngest
because of his childish behavior?
Yes, exactly.
Or is it because we're sitting and you thought,
no, maybe it's just that way, the way we're sitting.
No, I just, I feel like you and I are like,
we have the same kind of like-
Joe's no.
Yeah, Joe's no.
Exactly, that's right.
But Nick, you're like, my husband's like that.
I see, I'm a chatter, chat, chat, chat, chat, chat,
like about nothing.
And my husband, like he'll, of course,
I'm usually just talking and he's just kind of like
hanging out and listening.
He's taking it in.
And then like, he'll like, I'll say like this long thing
and I'll be like, isn't it crazy that like anesthesia
exists and it's like a long winded, like,
it's like train to plot.
Right, and then like, and then I'll be done
and he'll be like, yeah.
And I'm like, all right, I'm going to call my sister
and say the same exact thing.
Yeah, it's like this new trend you see online.
It's like, I feel like you just don't see me.
And it's like, no, I see you.
But, but I will balance this with Nick.
If you need to just call to like, to vent about something.
Yeah.
He will be like, he'll lock in.
Let's go.
Like, if you're like, I need to call you just because
this is really bothering me.
Like, are this things bothering me?
He'd be like, he's locked in.
He's set.
Tell me if you have this with your sisters.
But we have a thing where we say,
all right, I got to crank it up.
And basically what that means is I need 15 minutes
to worry about something.
Where basically you have to agree with my take on this
and support me.
Maybe not agree, but I will have to be like with you.
Like you got to be there with me.
You can't be, for instance.
You're on the ride with me.
This is a hypothetical situation,
but it would be something like,
okay, this really pissed me off.
This person did this thing and they can't chime in with,
well, maybe they were having a bad day.
No, you have to let me crank it up.
Do you have that with your sisters?
Of course.
Yes.
We don't call it crank it up, but I really like that.
It's just.
You're welcome to take it.
I have this with my mom too.
If you call and you just say, okay,
I just need to vent for a second.
Like there's nothing anyone can like,
don't interrupt me to try to see the light of day.
It's like, you know, I'm a good person.
Let me have this.
Yeah, exactly.
Right.
By the way, do you ever do that too?
Where you're like talking badly about maybe each other,
maybe someone else.
I love them, but.
And then in the end you're like, and I adore them.
And they're the best person I know.
And then like every time I do that with my sisters,
they're like, okay, okay.
Yeah, yeah.
We know you love them.
We know you're a good person.
Go on.
I know you love your sister.
Yes, I know that.
But what's bothering you about that today?
You're allowed to be mad.
It's okay.
You're allowed to be annoyed.
No, I really wonder though.
I really have to wonder like when I'm the one
that they're talking about together.
Right.
They're saying it too though.
They're saying, you know, we love her.
We love her so much.
I'm so perfect.
What do they say?
That's how I feel.
What could they say?
It's just, honestly, it could just be like,
oh, she's so perfect.
Ugh.
It's so annoying.
Just do it.
Ugh.
Why is she like that?
Ugh.
She got another huge movie.
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We have to speak a little bit.
I love this sibling talk, okay?
But we gotta speak a little bit
about your incredible career.
Starting with, and I got this little sheet here
which gave me this information
which I'm absolutely obsessed with
because it's my favorite cereal ever.
Your first gig was in a Life cereal commercial.
That's right.
It's your favorite cereal?
That's my favorite cereal.
I agree.
It's actually Alina's favorite now too.
What is your favorite flavor of Life cereal?
Cinnamon.
Me too.
So you're, how old when you get this job?
Four.
So you get this job and soon after that
you start booking job after job.
Mostly commercials.
I did, I think I did like 75 commercials.
75 commercials, casual.
What was the gig, the first film gig that you got
and you're like, oh, it's on.
I'm starting this career as an actress.
You know, it's funny
because you're not thinking about it like that
when you're a kid.
You're just having a good time.
This is amazing.
This is fun.
Yeah, you're just having a good time
and you're like, mom's putting away your money for you.
Like, so you can like.
One would hope, yeah.
My first thing that I ever did that was a film
because I did commercials and I did TV guest spots,
you know, CSIs, all that jazz.
And my first film was I was cast as like
Adam Sandler's dead daughter in a flashback
in a movie called Rain Over Me.
And then I was like, no, I had like three seconds
of screen time, but that was my first movie.
And then I like led a short film when I was like six.
And that was really cool.
But the first time I was like, oh, this is like,
now I'm like cognitively aware
of how much responsibility this is
and also how much I love it and how much work it takes
and work ethic it takes,
like was a movie I did called Ramona and Beezus.
And I was nine years old when I did that.
And I was like, I was so tired
and also like fulfilled at nine,
which is such an interesting feeling.
And I knew that I wanted to try and do this forever then.
But you know what's funny is when you're nine years old,
you're not like, oh, and there's a possibility
it won't work out.
You're just kind of like, this is what I wanna do,
so I'm gonna do it.
And luckily there's like a confidence,
like a kind of a false confidence that comes with that,
that I think really helped carry me
through some difficult moments in my career.
Lots and lots and lots of rejection
that I just did not let phase me.
Lots of, you know, bizarre moments
where you're just like being told things
about how you look and how you act and when you're a kid.
But I do think that there was something that I just,
I don't know what it was.
I just always had like a natural confidence as a kid
that I've actually lost a lot of now that I'm older.
But it did carry me through, I think,
a lot of the feelings that might have come with inhibition.
And I just felt really uninhibited growing up as an actress,
which was, I think, probably the most helpful tool
that I had.
That's amazing.
That is really cool.
And also, you know, I think the time that we met you
was around the time Ramona Bee just came out.
It was a big announcement when it happened.
You carried yourself, you know, so professionally
through that whole press run and the movie coming out.
I mean, from my memory,
we met you a few times during that time.
Yeah.
I think I was just having so much fun and I was so hyper.
And now I'm like, I'm like, was I too hyper?
But as you're a kid-
Well, I think that, you know, actor kids like,
and we were working at a young age,
so we kind of had some of that actor kid
where you're like told to look somebody in the eye,
shake their hand and, you know,
carry an adult conversation
because that's what you have to do when you're on set.
And there are, I will say,
there are some that as they get older,
I think lose track of what it means
to just be a person that's not being handed a script
that is like, this is who you are today,
to actually develop your own personality.
And it makes a lot of sense
based on what you've spoken about with your family dynamic
and, you know, your mom and all that stuff
that that family is really important to you.
And I think it's the only thing
that helps you as a child performer
sort of not end up as a person with no personality
who's just like waiting to be told where to stand
and what to say.
Yeah, it's really grounding to have like a real life.
Like when I would come home from work
and I would come back to Simi Valley
from like wherever I was traveling,
I had like a genuine, like real life at home.
I had like real hobbies, real interests,
like real addiction to Sims.
Oh, dude.
Hold on.
Now we're talking.
Hold on.
Six hours a day I would play
as long as my mom would let me in the summertime.
Do you still play sometimes?
No, I haven't played in a long time
because I know that I would get-
She's an adult, Kevin.
It's fully, it's amazing now.
It's back now, I love it.
It's all on.
You put your Sim in the pool, take the ladder away.
Take the ladder out.
Take the ladder away from the Grim Reaper, dude, right?
Just to see what happens.
Just everyone's done it.
Take out all the doors, start a house fire.
Yeah, so funny.
How old were you guys when you started, you know, performing?
Well, Nick started when you were like six or seven.
Six or seven, correct?
Yeah, I did Broadway first as a kid.
We all did like commercials and stuff,
but we started around, you know, six, seven, nine, 10-ish.
My first open casting call was for Miracle on 34th Street
when they were potentially going to go with a boy
instead of a girl for the film.
My first commercial was for Burger King
and it was for a, like a Scooby-Doo-
It was the Haulover thing.
Yeah, and so, no, they had a movie coming out,
so they were doing like a collaboration.
Was it Spooky Island?
Spooky Island.
Yeah, and they had like put-
My favorite.
And like, they made a mold of my face.
I was like, I think eight years old.
It was your birthday.
It was on my birthday, I had to do the mold.
Were you so scared?
I was terrified, it didn't work.
So I had to come back again and I remember crying
after we left and I was just so devastated.
And our mom was like, props to her.
She was like, you don't have to do this,
but the family is expecting the money from what's-
No, she was like, you don't have to do this
if you don't want to.
And I was like, I want to do it.
So I went back, did the mold again.
And then like, yeah, they ripped my face off.
And it's so scary.
The ones where they like put the straws in the nose.
That's what it was, yeah.
And you just sit there for like an hour and a half
and you just close your eyes like, what?
This is insane.
We haven't figured out a better way to do it yet?
No, I mean, genuinely that is like,
that's like one thing if I ever,
like anytime I work on a job, I'm like, hey,
I don't, even if it's just like a job
where it's just like people in a room talking,
like I just warn everybody at the beginning.
I'm like, I'm not doing that thing.
Not putting straws in my nose.
I'm not doing that thing.
And you're not putting clay on my face
for an hour and a half.
Are you claustrophobic?
I am claustrophobic, yeah.
Then yeah.
Because Annex won't get an MRI.
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Okay, so you're about to go into a press tour
for Practical Magic 2, correct?
Yeah, we've started a little bit, but yeah.
So obviously you've got some newcomers in this movie.
I think her name's, is it Sandra?
Sandra.
I think it's, that's Balouk.
Oh, okay.
Oh, yeah.
And the other one, her name is Nikki?
Nicolay.
Nicolay, okay, yeah.
Nicolay.
Nicolay Kaidman.
Yes, yes.
This is your second movie with Nicolay Kaidman, right?
That is correct.
That's incredible.
No, not a lot of people can say that.
Also, not a lot of people can say that they are
Emmy, Golden Globe, and SAG,
and Critics' Choice Award nominee for the act,
which was incredible, by the way.
You've worked with some pretty amazing actors.
I'm not gonna ask you to pick your favorite,
but just pick your least favorite.
I do have a question.
Across all the actors you've had the chance to work with,
some incredible names,
is there an on-set, not memory,
but like a thing you learned from somebody else?
Don't just say who it is,
where you're like, wow,
that's a movie star doing a movie star thing
that you've now adopted as number one in the call sheet,
which for those that don't know,
that means you're the top person in the call sheet.
Straight offers.
Straight cash, homie.
Straight, yeah, only cash.
Fast escrow.
That's a good question.
Something that comes to mind,
I mean, there's a lot of people that I feel like
have taught me so much along the,
because I grew up on sets,
just like you guys did too.
It's like, you get it.
It's like you're working with adults.
You're kind of just like a bit of a sponge.
Sometimes you can't even remember
where you learned something,
but you know someone awesome taught it to you.
But I feel like Patricia Arquette on the act,
I had some really sensitive scenes
where I was like doing,
like stubbing up my clothes on for the first time.
And that was like very,
I had this like,
always had this very flippant attitude
towards stuff like that,
where I was like,
yeah, like I don't wanna make a big thing of it.
I don't want anyone else to feel uncomfortable.
So I'm not gonna be uncomfortable.
So it's like fine.
You know what I mean?
But ultimately there was like a couple moments
where Patricia felt like
I wasn't being like true to myself,
like respecting what I really felt,
which was just little common courtesies
that I could have been asking for.
And she was super protective
and super kind to everybody about it.
But she was just like setting up boundaries for me
to kind of learn and take with me in the future
in a very kind way that was just like,
if I protect myself in this way,
I'm ultimately protecting everybody else too
from feeling uncomfortable as well.
And that was a really powerful lesson
because I think when you are a child actor,
you sometimes grow up being a little too agreeable,
you know, a little too people-pleasing
and a little too like,
yeah, whatever,
like in situations where it's kind of like not,
yeah, whatever.
And you can always be kind about it.
You don't have to be forceful.
You don't have to be rude.
But there is like a thing that I think you're,
like I had to unlearn,
which was just like being quote down for whatever,
whatever anyone needed of me,
which you can still be like that,
but like protect yourself a little bit more.
And so she kind of just helped me create
that understanding of what that boundary would look like.
And I thought that was pretty amazing
because she just,
she took such good care of me on that set.
And we took good care of each other
because it was a very, very dramatic piece.
And I learned a lot from her just like as a person,
as an actress,
and as like, you know,
as a, she's like a natural mother.
And I think that that's so beautiful.
What a great answer.
I love her.
And I'd love to have her on this pod actually as well.
So please put her in the award.
Dude, Katarzyna is the coolest.
Yeah, she's incredible.
But she'd probably say yes.
You know, she's just like down.
She's down for it all.
She's down to clown.
Hit buzzers and sound effects.
That's actually-
He wants to sit where Joe's sitting though,
if she does this podcast.
She can.
I'll be on Zoom.
Walk us through what the next couple of weeks looks like
with the promo schedule.
Are you traveling a ton?
Are you doing it from LA?
What's the vibes?
The vibes are LA and travel.
I'm traveling to London and New York,
back to LA,
then back to New York,
which will be great.
I'm very, very pleased to be on a press tour.
Press tours are fun.
They're scary just for the flights,
but everything else is great.
I'm a little bit afraid of flying.
Always have been.
Gotten worse as I've gotten older.
What do you do?
It does get worse as you get older, I feel like.
I feel the same way.
Everything does, huh?
Kind of.
I keep saying, and I do believe this to be true,
when I turned 25
and my frontal lobe allegedly fully developed,
I hated it.
Oh my God.
It was like the worst year ever.
25 and 26 were terrible.
I felt too aware.
I was like, I just wish I was like dumber,
just like half a percent,
which is like what I think the frontal lobe thing did,
turned up something too aware.
And I was, I feel like that is something
people need to prepare people for better.
How much you will suffer.
Definitely.
You know too much now.
And you just, yeah.
And you also feel like you know,
and then because you know too much,
you feel like you know nothing about anything.
Right, totally.
And also you're suspicious about everything too.
Correct.
That does happen.
Correct, absolutely.
Yeah, I do feel like the fear of flying
does get a little bit worse as you get older.
I do have a, I do have a rule though with myself.
I don't take anything on domestic flights
because it's just like not long enough,
just got to get through it.
Sure, that plane could always get diverted
and then all of a sudden it's like,
you're in the Marin and it's not, it's not right.
Yeah, you're like, oh.
Yeah.
But with overseas flights,
I always take a little sleep aid.
And I usually wait till like,
if it's I'm coming from LA to overseas,
I usually wait till we get near New York
because I want to be out when we fly over the ocean.
Yeah, yeah, I'm with you.
Or out over that ocean.
Oh my God.
Yeah, that's not fun.
So your husband, will he be joining you for this trip
or is he working at the moment?
He'll be staying home with our lovely dog.
He's working.
You have how many dogs?
Her name's Fable.
She's a rescue from Romania.
Wow, we love a rescue.
We love the name Fable.
Were you in Romania when you saw this dog
or are you just?
Yes, I was.
I was working there.
Yeah, I was working there for seven months
on a show called We Were the Lucky Ones.
And it was a very sad show, very heavy subject matter.
And I was just like in the winter of Romania,
missing my dog and my family so much.
And I was like, I'm gonna go volunteer at a shelter.
That's like.
Which is always, there's always a little room
in your mind for.
There's always, it's like the first problem, exactly.
Because I don't know if you guys know this,
there's like an incredible stray dog problem in Romania.
They are everywhere.
Wow, did not know that.
Like unbelievable.
They're like, it's just so heartbreaking.
It's so crazy.
So I went to a shelter to volunteer
and just bring like goodies and hang out with the dogs.
And then of course I fell in love with Miss Fable,
who was formerly named Bon Bon,
but now her name's Fable.
You're named too?
All right, so as we do with all our guests,
we have a bowl of questions here
that have nothing to do with your life or career.
They're just random.
Or ours, we don't know what they are.
Just random stuff.
We're gonna pull a question
and we'd love for you to answer it.
Let's chime in.
What's your favorite childhood memory?
Oh, you got a good one.
Okay, first childhood memory, I'll say,
the first one that comes to my mind right now
is when my sister Hunter helped me pull out my first tooth
when my parents were out of the house.
And it was like very, no.
It was just a very sweet sister bonding moment.
We were both like jumping around the house,
screaming with excitement after it was done.
She was like, I can't believe I did it.
I was like, I can't believe I did it.
It was so cute.
I love that.
It's a great memory.
What's one thing someone can do
that instantly makes you feel loved?
Pulling out a tooth.
Yep, just yank my teeth out.
Really love that.
It's my thing.
My husband cooks for me almost every night
and that always makes me feel very proud.
That's amazing.
Winner.
I know.
You gotta learn how to cook.
I've been saying that for years.
That's a long one.
I know, some of them I can't stop once I hit the button.
That's so sweet.
What's one of his specialties?
What does he cook that you're like, oh yeah.
He makes, my favorite is spaghetti and meatballs.
He does the sauce and the meatballs homemade.
It's like my favorite thing.
Oh my gosh.
Fantastic.
So we'll check her coming over for dinner, so thanks.
Yeah, he makes 24 hour like sous vide barbecue pork ribs,
which is like another one of my favorite things.
Yeah, we're coming over.
Yeah, guys, you should come over.
It's really great.
It's gonna be a good time.
He loves a dinner party too.
He loves cooking for, he likes to like,
that's his like biggest way of like,
I wanna show people I care about them and love them.
That's so sweet.
I wanna break bread with people and I'm like, oh, cute.
It's amazing.
Let's do one more.
One more.
I'm having so much fun.
What's your favorite season and why?
Winter.
You know what, fellow winter person, I like it.
I'm not, I mean, listen, born and raised in LA,
I don't really feel like I have a lot of ground
to stand on here with saying that.
I feel like it's annoying to people
who are from cold climates,
but I just think a winter with like cozy cold,
like it's so, like there's something so romantic about that.
Something so like, oh, it's just,
it makes me feel like there's like a nice contrast to life.
You get to watch movies, you get to have candles going,
you get to be chilly and then you can enjoy the summer.
Right now, I feel like my privileged West Coast life,
I'm just like annoyed with this.
It's so beautiful all the time.
No, it's too hot.
It genuinely is.
You don't get our problems as LA people,
it's too hot for us.
It's way too, like, I just, I really can't,
I can't take it.
I love, my in-laws live in Chicago
and I love going there, like the winter time.
A little breeze off the lake.
Oh my God, look at all of us playing games
on the coffee table, we're so cute.
You know what I mean?
A little wood-burning fireplace going.
There's nothing better than Christmas
with a little bit of snow, you know?
I know, why Christmas?
Like, what can you do?
I've only, I've had that twice in my life.
Have you done a Christmas movie before?
Yeah, yes.
Yes?
Yes, kind of.
Christmas has happened in movies I've done.
Okay, Christmas has happened.
Yeah, Christmas doesn't exist in movies.
It's not a contract.
All right, well, we appreciate you coming on the podcast.
Thank you so much, Joey.
Fantastic guest.
Practical Magic 2 is in theaters
starting September 10th, everyone,
so make sure to go check it out.
Congrats on that, it's gonna be huge.
Thank you for having me, love you guys.
We love you.
Thank you, Joey.
We'll see you at the next show.
Bye.
What a guest.
She was awesome.
What a great guest.
What a, she's so fun.
I love when guests come on
and they just wanted to talk, you know?
She's like, yeah, we'll talk about the movie,
but like, yeah, yeah, yeah, yeah.
I like when they're just like, you know,
we're gonna get to the thing,
but like, they're here to hang.
I love that.
And when you do like 500 movies or so like her,
she's like, it doesn't matter.
Yeah, she's, I was looking at the filmography
before we had her on.
It's a lot.
It's like, Dark Knight Rises,
Crazy Stupid Love, The Act.
I mean, the number of,
yeah, baller actors that she's worked with
and filmmakers is pretty wild.
But now it's time for us to go.
As we always say on the Hey Jones podcast,
buh-bye.
We got you.
Buh-bye, Joe.