The Brooke Shields vs. Tom Cruise DRAMA Over Postpartum Depression

We talked yesterday about postpartum depression and how for a lot of women, this has become the central theme of this trial. You know, the medical system's not paying enough attention to it and the court's not taking it seriously enough. And you know, this damn prosecutor, prosecution that doesn't seem to take it seriously. And we mentioned Brooke Shields. Do you guys remember when Brooke Shields came out publicly and talked about her postpartum? It happened in 2003. And, um, you know, I read a bunch about Brooke Shields recently because I, over the summer, I read Andre Agassi's Open and they were married, if you may recall. Uh, and she's featured quite a bit in his memoir, which was written by the same guy who wrote Prince Harry's memoir, great writer. And, uh, just suffice it to say, it was a mismatch between Agassi and Brooke Shields, even though he grew up obsessing over her, like most boys who are Gen Xers. Uh, and he was one of the most, if not the most accomplished tennis player in the world at the time they fell in love. So they had, you know, extreme success in common. I think that's about all they had in common. And the way he writes about her in that book, he suggests, I don't know whether it's true, but he suggests Brooke was materialistic, rather shallow, um, kind of surface level and didn't have the heart and the soul of somebody that he could fall madly in love with. I think he married her because she was Brooke Shields. Uh, so sorry, if that's not right, but that's my takeaway. So they got a divorce. He doesn't write the nicest things about her, although he tries to protect her in some ways. And now he wound up married to Steffi Graf, the greatest female tennis player of all time. And they're happily married and have two beautiful children. So Brooke Shields went on to get married to somebody else and she had her kids and look, she's another person who was a Hollywood child star who was totally over-sexualized by a disgusting, toxic industry. Go look at, um, blue lagoon where she starred as this girl who'd been shipwrecked on this Island with her cousin. And it's just the two of them. He's a boy. They come of age together and they wind up having sex together. She's running around without her shirt on the entire, she's only 15 when she's shooting this. She was stunningly gorgeous. I do think she was literally one of the most beautiful people on earth. And, um, of course people wanted to pay to look at Brooke Shields, which is how she became a successful model and actress. But this level was so inappropriate for a 15 year old girl and the adult themes of the movie. She was having sex with her cousin. I believe it was the cousin in the, in the movie. I had a baby. Anywho, then there was endless love. I mean Brooke Shields is completely over-sexualized in her modeling and her acting when she was young. And you don't have to take my word for it. She addresses it in a documentary she made about her life not long ago, which was very interesting. Well, Brooke Shields had postpartum depression after she had her daughter in 2003. And look, I'm not saying that there's no such thing as postpartum depression. I'm just saying there are lots of reasons for Brooke Shields to run headfirst into the wall of depression. She'd been through a lot, all those things I just married. I just mentioned a failed marriage to Andre Agassi, a lifetime of superficial people that she'd been surrounded by in Hollywood, sexual exploitation from a very young and tender age and a mother who seemed very interested in riding that racehorse to, you know, fame and wealth, in my opinion. So she spoke out about it. She wrote about it in her memoir and we actually pulled it. We actually pulled the part of the memoir when she describes this moment where she had the urge to drive her car into a wall while she was driving her daughter. Rowan Francis is the daughter's name. She was born in the spring of 2003. Let's take a listen. But I started feeling like I no longer mattered. I became more and more disoriented. Once again, I felt awkward and began panicking this time. It had nothing to do with Rowan, but instead had everything to do with how I felt about myself. It felt physical, like I was about to get sick or faint. I couldn't understand what was happening. I had been doing so well. My heart began to race. My hearing became muffled and I had to get out of there immediately. I stood up and looked at my watch, scooping up the baby. I gathered our things and said quick goodbyes all the while, pretending that I needed to get Rowan home and into bed because it was getting late. Walking quickly to my car, I began to cry. I got the baby in the car seat and left the lot as soon as possible. Then the tears flooded down. I hit traffic on the drive home and started getting the terrible feeling that I was going to ram the car into the wall on the side of the freeway. The baby was in the back and although I didn't think of hurting her, I wanted to smash violently through the window myself. Thank God the baby was in the car because this urge was so strong that I feared I would actually do it. How ironic that she was saving me from hurting myself. For a reason I can't explain, I called my mother, whatever my crazy reason for calling her first I did and I scared the daylights out of her. She tried calming me down and told me that these feelings were only temporary. I hung up, leaving her desperately concerned. Rowan and I finally got home. I was shaking. Think about this in 2006, $20,000 equaled roughly 33 ounces of gold at spot price. At today's prices, those 33 ounces would be worth about $165,000. 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She took medication and then she stopped it cold Turkey for her postpartum depression, but didn't tell her doctors or her husband. She was on Paxil and then she went back on Paxil after this incident. So she was very brave to, you know, admit all of that because it did open a conversation about postpartum depression for women back in 2003 and then famously or infamously, depending on your POV, Tom Cruise went on the today show with Matt Lauer and this happened. Aren't there examples and might not Brooke Shields be an example of someone who benefited from one of those drugs. All it does is mask the problem, Matt. And if you understand the history of it, it masks the problem. That's what it does. That's all it does. You're not getting to the reason why there is no such thing as a chemical imbalance. So postpartum depression to you is kind of a little psychological googly goop. No, no, I did not say that. I'm just asking what you, what would you call it? Matt, that is the post. Now you're talking about two different things, but that's what she went on the antidepressant for. But what happens, the antidepressant, all it does is mask the problem. There's ways of vitamins and through exercise and various things. I'm not saying that that isn't real. That's not what I'm saying. That's an alteration of what, what I'm saying. The thing that I'm saying about Brooke is that there's misinformation. Okay. And she doesn't understand the history of psychiatry. She doesn't understand in the same way that you don't understand it, man. But a little bit, what you're saying, Tom, as you say, you want people to do well, but you want them to do well by taking the road that you approve of as opposed to a road that may work for them. No, no, I'm not. Well, if antidepressants work for Brooke Shields, why isn't that? Okay. I disagree with it. And I think that there's a higher and better quality of life. And I think that promoting for me personally, see, you're saying what I can't discuss what I want to discuss. You absolutely can. But Matt, you're going in and saying that, that I can't discuss that. I'm only asking, isn't there a possibility that do you examine the possibility that these things do work for some people that yes, there are abuses. And yes, maybe they've gone too far in certain areas. Maybe there are too many kids on Ritalin, maybe electric shock. Kids on Ritalin. I'm just saying, but, but aren't there examples where it works? You don't even you're glib. You don't even know what Ritalin is. So Tom cruise got excoriated for that. And I don't know about you, but it looks so different to me now. I mean, we have over medicated America. You get an itch and they got a pill for that. You know, they're talking about putting GLP ones in six year olds. Um, and yes, ADHD medication can be useful in limited circumstances. You heard Dr. Leonard Sachs talking about that last week, but they give out those pills like they're candy. And the mothers are stealing the kids Ritalin and Adderall as like a mother's little helper drug now. Um, and Dr. Sachs was talking about the long-term effects of those drugs on children. You know, we, we have gotten so knee jerk on the prescription pads that it's out of control. And, and, you know, show me a S a school shooting that doesn't involve an SSRI, not saying that they're causing it, but they certainly don't seem to be preventing it. And I do believe in many cases, they are aggravating a person's symptoms. I don't reject them as a tool that belongs in a psychiatrist toolbox. I argue that they are over prescribed and that in many people, they seem to have very adverse consequences. And then we just shrug our shoulders when these people do something horrible. And we never really talk about what role the drug may have played. We only look at the mental illness. I mean, this is one of the reasons why people don't want to see Lindsay Clancy convicted of first degree murder. I'm not one of them, as I've told you, but I understand the people who are like, look at, look at the drugs. She was given look at the fuller picture, because there's reason to believe that she wasn't criminally responsible. Now, I believe the argument is she wasn't entirely responsible that others had a hand in exacerbating her problems, but the criminal law doesn't care about that. You know, if I go to rob a bank and you drive me there, you're going down too. I don't get excused just because you drove me. Or just leave a comment below, but join the community by becoming a subscriber. We really, really value your input and your support. You may not always agree, but we are always going to talk about it and respect no BS, no agenda, no fear.