Tupac's Outlawz group member speaks out after murder trial

Malcolm Greenish. Okay. And then your artist name? My artist name is Idi Amin of the Outlaws. Very good. All right. Let's just talk about what we saw today. You have a guilty verdict. What was your reaction? Um, I breathed a sigh of relief. I did. I breathed a sigh of relief because his family and millions of fans around the world have been waiting on this for about 30 years now. It's almost 30 years coming up in a week from today. Is this the verdict you expected? Um, no. To be honest with you, it's not. Count one. Murder with use of a deadly weapon. Guilty of first degree murder. It's not. Actually, I was telling a friend that I expected a home jury and not guilty. Really? I did. So when you heard guilty, you thought? I was shocked at the speed of the verdict. I didn't expect it to come back as fast as it did. I thought they would deliberate at least overnight. And when, um, I started getting the phone calls into Texas because I wasn't paying attention, I was expecting them to deliberate. When I started to get the phone call into Texas, I was like, wow, that was fast. What does that tell you? That the jury believed him. That the jury believed him in all those times that, you know, he took it upon himself to admit to committing this crime and, um, telling the story in detail. So much detail. And films. Films, books. He hit almost every media type of media that you could hit with his, um, you know, telling of the, of the story, how it happened. You were in the courtroom as you testified. Did you get a sense that he felt that this would come back on him? Um, I didn't get it. I didn't get a sense of that. I got a sense of maybe he, uh, you know, maybe his defense attorney did enough to create reasonable doubt. What was it like for you to stare at this man in court? Um, it was, it was, it was bittersweet, so to speak, that we all have to be here 30 years later. His sister sitting, um, to the left of me, you know, um, still in tears. You know, I watched, I watched his mother cry tears for years about losing her only son. And unfortunately she's no longer with us to even have this experience. So it was very bittersweet. I don't know if you saw any of the footage. We covered it live on Fox 11, but I saw his stepbrother Mopreme wipe away tears. Yeah, this, this is a, it's, it's tough. The whole, the whole trial was tough just to, you know, relate with some of the graphic details of how Tupac was taken from us and, um, the brashness of it all. And, you know, the senselessness is just, you know, another senseless murder that, um, you know, we have to experience as a people. You were in the car behind Tupac in 1996 on that day, and you had to relive that experience. What was that like for you? Um, not something that I looked forward to. I didn't, I didn't want to do it. Um, you know, um, they were, had subpoenaed me weeks ago and wanted me to come to Vegas. And I was not interested in being a part of this at all. And then it got to a point where my, you know, um, my children were getting phone calls. Um, other family members were getting phone calls from the district attorney for me to come. And then they had a judge, um, subpoenaed me. And so I was running out of, um, I was running out of options to be honest with you. Having testified, do you feel like you contributed to this guilty verdict? No, I don't. I think, um, I think Mr. Davis himself did the majority of the work. You know what I mean? I think it was very hard for the jury to ignore what he was saying and how comfortable he was saying. I was looking back at some of your testimony and just to hear about that night in 1996, where you were in that car, you saw the gun come out the window of the car that pulled up. Another car pulled up and started shooting at Mr. Chacon and Mr. Knight. Didn't see faces though. Silhouettes. No, I did not. I didn't see faces. Tried to rush to the scene, to the car that had Suge Knight and Tupac and they took off, right? Yeah. I mean, I wasn't driving that night. His security guard, Frank Alexander was driving that night. And so, uh, Frank was doing the best he could to, um, you know, get to Tupac and Suge and assess the damage. And, um, you know, it was just a chaotic, it was just a chaotic moment. I was moved too, by the words that Tupac said to you when you finally caught up to the car, he'd already been shot. And he said what to you? Um, he said, uh, get on the ground, they're going to shoot you. Meaning the police officer that was there? The police officer who was there with a shotgun to my head. That I didn't see because I was just focused on my friend and seeing, um, you know, if he was okay. Is it moving to you as you recollect that those were the last words that Tupac said to you? It's just indicative of who he was, the type of person he was, the type of breath, brother, friend, comrade, you know, he was always looking out for us in more ways than one. Tupac had a, uh, one of the most generous hearts and spirits of any human being I've ever known. And that's not hyperbole. That's not me exaggerating. That's absolutely who he was in his essence. And so at the time I wasn't surprised. And even 30 years later, it's just who he was. You know what I mean? There's no shock to me. I know the world is like, wow. But for me, that was just who Tupac was. Can you take me back to the greatest days of the outlaws when you're working there with Tupac? What was that like for you? For me, because Tupac was my childhood friend, there were other childhood friends in this group. My favorite days were when we weren't working and Tupac didn't have to be at a studio session or on a movie set or doing an interview. He was just able to enjoy his life and the fruits of his labor because he was somebody that worked really hard. And he worked really hard to get to where he eventually got to. And so when he just had a time to enjoy, you know, the Los Angeles sunshine, um, driving down Sunset Boulevard and his drop top Rolls Royce, playing Sting as loud as he could. Sting? Sting. He was a big fan of Sting. No kidding. And, um, you know, with a smile on his face, those were my most finest memories. Working together, favorite song or two? Oh, wow. Um, I would have to go with May Figures is one. Of course, I know we're on, you know, we're on TV, so I can't say the other word. I won't say the other word, but May Figures, um, and a song about it, a song called Lost Souls. You continued your career as a music producer, as an artist. Would you say that you were able to carry on his legacy in some form? Um, I believe I carried on the legacy that he left for us. You know, Tupac was very, very instrumental in giving me the confidence to be, uh, to fulfill a childhood dream. Hip hop and being a rapper was all I ever wanted to do. Unfortunately, I've had the opportunity to travel the world, um, see parts of the world that some of my friends that I grew up with have never gotten a chance to see, may never see. Um, I've written two novels. Um, you know, I've been able to act a little bit. The list goes on and on. And so I'm just super grateful that he, you know, allowed us the opportunity to eat at his table, so to speak, and sharing the blessings that he was, uh, that he was, you know, had the opportunity to have himself. And, you know, I couldn't, I couldn't thank him more to this day. My children thank him, my mother thank him, my whole family thanks him to this day. He was a music artist, also an actor. This was in the height of the, the gangster rap era. Where do you think he would be today, 2026, doing what? Oh, wow. Sky's the limit for a guy like Tupac. But I do know some of the things that he said to us before he passed in 1996, that he really, he really wanted to focus more on acting and doing movies and writing movies and directing and really, um, you know, step away from music, not completely, but, uh, he would, he would do music with us. He would, you know, perform, uh, do shows with us. But as far as himself doing albums, he didn't really have a plan on doing many more albums after, uh, after Machiavelli came out. Interesting. So the 1990s was a challenging era when it came to rivalries and gang culture. How do you reflect back on that era? That's a broad question. You know, hip hop, hip hop is a very competitive art form. It's almost like a sport. You know, um, you have a lot of, um, you know, testosterone and egos. And I believe in the nineties, those got, those got out of control a bit. And, and there wasn't, um, an element of elder statements available to, um, mediate some of these disagreements and some of these feuds. And I believe if, if we did have those at the time and was able to organize sit-downs where we can have dialogue amongst each other, um, a lot of this would have, um, you know, been something we would have all been able to grow old and laughing and say, wow, we were, we were wild and young and, you know, full of ego and, you know, thank God we made it past all of that. Because Tupac was only 25. Exactly. Exactly. And so, you know, everybody was very young. When I look back on it now, I'm, I'm almost astonished at how young everybody was who was involved. And so, um, you know, it's, it's, it's a lesson to be learned for the next generation. Hopefully they can learn from some of the mistakes we made and do their best to not repeat them. Were you there at the MGM when there was that fight? Suge Knight, Tupac, Orlando Anderson, who was accused of being the No, I was not. I was in Las Vegas, obviously, but, um, us, Tupac and my other group members and myself, we, uh, we, we, we were separated because of, you know, the hecticness of Vegas and just, um, a lot going on and, you know, some miscommunication and Tupac ended up going to the The fight, meaning the Mike Tyson fight? The Mike Tyson-Bruce Elber fight. Correct. What are your hopes or thoughts for sentencing for Dwayne Keefe D. Davis? You know, I really don't have any, you know what I mean? I know this is, this is above my pay grade, so to speak. This is up to the judge jury and the people that, um, have been required to do this job. I don't have any personal hopes. I don't take any solace in the fact that this man has been convicted of my friend's murder. This is a, you know, what's left of his life is, is potentially gone forever. Tupac, this is not bringing Tupac back. Justice for Tupac would have been eradicating some of these conditions that led to him being murdered on the Vegas Strip. Justice for Tupac would have been, he was out on bail at the time for a crime that he vehemently denied until the day he died. And he didn't get justice in that case as well. And so there's no victory party, at least for me. I'm very, very happy for his friends, uh, family, fans, and then the people that needed closure. But for me personally, this is, this is not something that I, I look, um, I look forward to or I'm happy about. There's, there's, um, there's just a lot of darkness in this whole ordeal. Is there any last thought you want to share? I thank you so much for your time. No, um, the most I could say is, is congratulations, like I said, to his family and his fans and keep playing Tupac's book of memory. Um, keep focusing on how he lived and not so much on how he died. We should note, you spoke to our reporter at the star on the Hollywood Walk of Fame. That has to be a highlight to have had that happen. Absolutely. Great day for Tupac. Um, also just this year, he was inducted to the Grammy Hall of Fame, his album, All Eyes on Me. I had the pleasure of accepting that award on his behalf. And so there's a lot of, um, a lot of greatness and a lot of bright spots amongst this darkness. And, and, you know, I like to focus on that and I hope his family and friends continue to focus on that as well. All right. Do I call you by your first name or your artist name? Well, you know, my mother calls me Malcolm to this day. You know what I mean? And my fiance, they call me Malcolm. So the people that really love me, they call me Malcolm. You can call me Malcolm, um, and or Edie, either one. I respond to both. All right. I'm going to go with Malcolm right now. That's what's up. Thank you for your time. Thanks for having me.