The Apprentice - Season 07, Episode 08

Previously on the Celebrity Apprentice. Oh, my God. After Impresario's fifth devastating loss, Mr. Trump would like you in the boardroom immediately. Mr. Trump decided to switch up the teams. This is the new Hydra on my left, the new Impresario on my right. But Pierce wasn't happy with his new teammate Omarosa. Omarosa, you think you're gonna get along with Pierce? I've worked with the scums in Marshall. Scums? I think that's off to a bad start. And the teams were off to run horse and carriage rides in Central Park. Carriage rides for charity. Impresario enjoyed their new team, and they worked well together. I really believe I had the best team. It's a different energy. While on Hydra, Omarosa's hatred of Pierce took things to a shocking new low. The mother of your children hates you, Pierce, and your children hate you. Leave my kids out of it. You foul-mouthed little tramp. But even with the team in complete dysfunction, You're fired. I ain't going nowhere, son. Hydra managed to pull out a win. Despite everything, $65,000 to your favorite charity, Pierce. Mr. Trump solved Hydra's volatile situation. Omarosa, I'm gonna ask you to go on the other team. And then he made a surprising decision. This is the single hardest firing I've ever had. This team really understands that this is all about charity, and I'm feeling charitable. I'm firing no one. And Mary Lou, you're going to the other team. Oh! Cheers. To impresario for you. Impresario, here I come! Yes. Thank you, Mr. Trump. He really likes me. He really, really likes me. And he showed how much he liked me by moving me away from that wretched human being. I was leaving that trash behind. Hi, Trace. Hello. Where's Mary Lou? Trace, where's Mary Lou? Yay! Hi, honey! We guessed right. Yeah, we guessed right. Oh, wait, what happened? Here's Steven. What happened? Nobody got fired. First time ever on the show. The fact that nobody got fired was a big surprise, because I thought somebody was definitely on their way out. But ultimately, it's up to Mr. Trump. But I do get to come on your team. You get to come, but I have to come here. Mary Lou's coming here? Yeah, so it's us four. Great. We got Mary Lou instead of Omarosa, which is a bit like replacing the devil with Nelson Mandela, to be honest. Yeah, let's leave. Mary Lou for Omarosa. There is a God. Omarosa's so offensive about my family, I don't want to share any space with her at all. I don't ever want to talk to Omarosa again in my entire life. Hey, Mr. White, how are you? I'm doing fine, thanks. The Intrepid Fallen Heroes Fund supports the families left behind when their loved ones are bereaved fighting in the military. Well, the reason I chose your charity, Bill, is that my own brother has just returned from Iraq, where he fought in the British Army. And obviously a lot of men that he knew in the U.S. Marine Corps didn't go home. And I believe it is the patriotic duty of every American and every Briton to support our boys out there doing a hell of a difficult job. And if they do lose their lives, the least we should do is put our hands in our pocket. I've got some very good news for you, Bill. Yes? I've got a check in my hands here for $64,857. Oh my God, are you kidding me? Boy, this is terrific for you. This is fantastic. I'm going to try and win this thing and get you a load more money. Well, that's great. In the end, that moment to me brought it all back to the right level, which is why I'm really here. I don't want to have any more arguments. It was the kind of reality check I needed, which was just to cool things down a bit and remember we're here to raise money for charity. God bless you. Take care, Bill. Bye. Lo and behold, we got to the location today. There's nothing more exciting than seeing those choppers and the size of them and knowing that we're going to take a ride someplace. Good morning. That was some boardroom. There was no way to make a decision last night. The next time, I guarantee somebody will be fired. Now, one of the great companies that you'll ever deal with is QVC. You're going to get onto these helicopters. You'll be traveling to QVC in Pennsylvania. You are going to write, direct, and produce a 10-minute live segment on QVC. You're going to pick a product and sell it. If you pick the same product, you're going to have to negotiate as to who gets what. I'll be watching live on QVC. Now, the team that makes the most money wins. The project manager on the winning team will receive $20,000 for his or her favorite charity. Empresarial, who's going to be your project manager? If I'm PM, I also want to direct the commercial. If you're cool with that, then I'll do that. Yeah. Steven, who is going to be your project manager? I will be Mr. Trump. Very good. I think that's a very good choice. Hydra, who's going to be your project manager? Well, the most vivid shopper we have is Mary Lou. It would be right also because she hasn't won any money for her charity yet. Do you feel okay about being project manager? So far. I'm on a learning curve here. She's joining a winning team, Mr. Trump. All right, good. Well, it is a good team. And it's nice that you're not with Omarosa. Do we agree? Whatever. That was yesterday. This time, I promise you, somebody will be fired. Go. Thank you. We can't lose. Because if we lose, someone's getting fired no matter what. This whole task is about what happens on air. Having Omarosa on our team can crush us or can help us out. So hopefully it's a positive and you don't see us in the boardroom with one of us getting fired. So we'll see how it turns out. Coming up. So Rick comes in, the host. Hold on. And later. Trace is so nervous. I think he's going to pass out. Here we go. 3, 2, 1. And we're live. My role in the task is project manager. And our task is to create a 10-minute commercial. We're going to be on air pitching a product that had never been on QVC before. I'm very excited about that. I always think any team I'm in that has Lennox Lewis and we are selling product, we are stupid to ignore his celebrity power. Right? Lennox. Lennox clearly had too much to drink and had no sleep. And then within a half day, which will be his new fighting title, Lennox Sleepy Boy Lewis. He doesn't want to be on air today because he was out drinking last night. Don't listen to him. Don't be swayed by the skeezer. I was tired. I was tired, but I wasn't sleeping. Piers talks a lot. He has diarrhea of the mouth. I wish I had a turn-off switch to go beep. You know, you've got to stop using me in those type of ways. Why? I think I can be used in different ways. What ways? Different ways. You're not going to tell me how you want to produce this. Yes. You're a frustrated movie producer. Yes, I am. Trust me, I don't give a crap about your desire to be a movie producer. This is about selling product. I'm a world champion boxer, but what I really want to do is direct. He pounces himself as a bit of a Francis Ford coupler. Okay. I've worked with Francis. Oh, you have? Yeah. And in vendors. You see much of Francis in Lennox? Let's see what we got. Well, the first order of business was to view six products, choose one, and go to work. Welcome to QVC. I'm the Senior Vice President of TV Sales. We have a very diverse product mix. So the QVC executives presented us with six items to choose from. There was this magnifying mirror, this utility tool kit, and this bamboo storage drawer. Then we had a fry pan, an electric sweeper that you plugged into the wall, charged it up, and you could vacuum anywhere. Then we had a ladder. Not only is it a step ladder, but also it has the ability to be flipped up. Now the unit turns into a hand truck should you need to move anything around the house. Thank you very much. What'd you like, Trace? The ladder. I thought the ladder was just a great product. I was impressed with it. Go for the ladder. If you don't get it, make them flip. We went in to negotiate with the other team, and our mind was made up. If they want it, and we want it, and nobody backs down, just go straight to the coin toss. There's no reason to talk about it. Okay, so what if we lose the flip? What's after that? I would say the sweeper. I would say the mirror. I would say the sweeper mirror if you mounted the mirror on the front of the sweeper. If I saw that ladder cart, I'd pick up my phone and call immediately. That is a passionate, great item. We saw the ladder cart, and this was a product that I fell in love with instantly. This was the kind of product that if I had seen it on television, I would have picked up my phone and ordered it right away. Caroline, you're going to negotiate? What are we going to choose? We're going to negotiate the ladder cart. So, Carol and I decided to go in and negotiate to see which one the empresario team wanted. Hi, ladies. Have you all decided on a product? Most definitely. Which one would you like to start with? Why don't you go first? Ladder. What's your first choice? Ladder. Okay. We're not going to give no matter what. You want to flip a coin now? Flip a coin. I'm God's guy. You know, I'm on your team, Lord. Let's win that coin flip. Heads. Lost the coin flip, and the girls got the product they wanted, so we had to quickly pick the next product and move on with it. That was quick, wasn't it? They picked the ladder, they won the flip. Oh, gee. That's fine. Sometimes in these situations, luck comes into play. What are the other ones we want? When we lost the coin flip, the ladder wasn't meant to be. Out of the problem, into the solution. You can demonstrate that sweeper in ten seconds. Oh, yeah. People get it. What do you think of that sweeper, Holmes? I like the sweeper because it's lightweight for women. Okay. Sweeper, that's it. Mary Lou and I both got a nine, but I think that we'll be talking over each other. So do I. Too much. Mary Lou and I had both done QVC before. I worked with them for five years, and I know QVC. Yeah, you're way high energy, and for me to keep up, it's going to be detrimental. I think it's better to use Mary Lou. I think when Mary Lou and I get together, I'm a very stabilizing force for Mary Lou. She trusts me, she looks to me, and I always, always have her back. You will sell that to the Eskimos, right? I have no doubt. I decided that I would be the on-air talent. I felt we had an advantage because I was familiar with the place. Every time I write a book, I'm on QVC selling my book. It's perfect because it's two in one. It's a ladder, it's a cart. It's incredible quality. But amazing value. I think the most important thing is rehearsal. How many times do you have to have someone hold the ladder for you? If we just choreograph it and I move from place to place demonstrating the ladder, maybe that will help. I really love it. Trace, you're our salesman today, dude. Can't wait to see you do your thing, Trace. You watch me, baby. It's going to be good. You're so good looking, son. Yeah, I understand that. When you think QVC and you think celebrities on QVC, in my mind, Trace Adkins is that guy. Brother, they're going to hire you at QVC, son. Just the visual of big old Trace Adkins pushing around a cordless electric sweeper, I just thought was adorable. Trace, we got somebody for you. This is the co-host. Lisa, right? Yes. We had an option of putting two of our team members on air or to go with one team member and a QVC host. We opted to go with a QVC host because she was so darn cute. I was raised in Tennessee, Collegedale. Upon meeting Lisa, I was struck by her presence. She's from Tennessee. She's a southern girl. We took to each other immediately. It's all up to you. Hey, how are you? How are you? Lennox, Rick Delmeyer. Nice to meet you, sir. I'll be playing the part of the show host. So Rick comes in, the host, little Mr. Smiley with the teeth and the blonde and the hair and the eyes, Mr. Game show host. I would deliberately play to her unbelievable passion for this thing. This is the best of both worlds in that it's both heavy duty and it's lightweight. Correct. So I've got that down. Come on. I want to see if I can put you on it. Very good. I thought it would look really interesting. I think I saw it in an old musical. Somebody dances their way and there's a hand cart and somebody wheels them on. But I thought that that would make a great visual. Hold on. I'm so sorry. That didn't go great. That probably is not a good idea. I'm glad we tested that before. I'm sorry. Are you okay? Can I be on the other team? Can we do just a mock rehearsal, a run through in here, Stephen? Yes, ma'am. I made a suggestion to see if they wouldn't mind just doing some practice run throughs in here just so I could get chemistry, start scripting things. No, no, no, not in this case. Omarosa said, hey, you know, you better prepare Trace for what he's about to do. And I just, something in my spirit said, this guy sings in front of 100,000 people. I just had the faith that it was all going to come together. But I picked a different, because this is like a dance. This is like a dance that she might be doing. But here's the thing. One dance that he may be doing. It is a dance and she's leading. I was begging Stephen for a rehearsal. And he's like, no, I'll let the chips fall where they may. If I were project manager, there would have been a rehearsal. This is a live show. You've got 10 minutes live on QVC. There's no do-overs. I'm a really good director. I'm not worried about you, son. Hey, buddy. How are you? We've got the best seller of the day. And we're going to sell a million of them. Very nice. Tell me. Very lightweight. Only weighs three pounds. It's great. I don't think Ivanka could live without one. Probably not. I don't think Ivanka does much sweeping on her own. Empress Aria seem to be pretty intelligent in the way they do this. They have Trace selling to middle America. It's probably a really good decision. He's probably the right person to be the spokesperson for the product. But we'll see. Thanks again. Good luck, guys. Appreciate it. See you soon. Oh, hey. I saw this product, and I just went, wow. This is something that is a must-have. I will call anywhere to get this product. This is something that I'm always looking for. When I went into Sea Hydra, they really seemed organized. They really seemed to have a plan. The product, they really believe in it, which is one of the most important things when you're selling anything. But I love it. Even, let's say, you're doing something. You're changing light bulbs. You're putting things up. Mary Lou's the project manager. I've been on air selling. And she likes to talk. I've been on air selling only my own product, and now I want to put my name on this. You don't have to close it up. A lot. I definitely want to get from my house. I not only think it's great to have one, I think you should have two. So we'll see how that goes. Thank you very much, guys. Good luck. I'll catch up with you soon. Look forward to seeing you in there. Cheers. Take care. Within the task, both teams were assigned a creative consultant who understands QVC's selling process. In the payment structure, can I break the payments up over several months, or is it a one-time price that they have to pay for now? We have on-premise offered something called EasyPay. What is that? You break up the payments in installments. Really? One thing that I was just so grateful to the Lord for giving me this thought was implementing this possibility called EasyPay. And how much can EasyPay be broken up? How many payments? Do we know? The most we will ever do in an EasyPay is five. Okay. Very interesting. That's five EasyPayments of $12. Where's the director's stand? Director's going to stand down here in the front. Let me show you. You can basically be anywhere you want to be. Going into the control room for the first time was great. I always wanted to be in that spot to direct something, anything. Obviously start off with a video, you know, build myself up, but then get to movies. You know what's so funny? I've always wanted to do this. Lennox, I think, fancied himself as a bit of a Francis Ford cobbler, and I think he really thought this was his moment to effectively direct Mary Lou Hannah in a major motion picture. We need tighter on her face. On her face. Eric, keep going that way. I'm going to take a cutaway of Mary Lou. She's up. Tell her to go get that glass thing. That was the job for me. I'm good at it. I know what to see and know what to look for. Yeah, I'm directing this. Lennox was in control of the cameras. Carol was doing a lot of work on the set. Can we do a run-through, do you mind? I was in charge of the control room. It was quite exciting. And you can see every second how you're doing, and you're reacting to spikes and sail. I found that quite a buzz, actually. Okay, guys, 30 seconds until we go live. Mary Lou, can you hear me? Wing it. Okay, wing it. I can't hear Pierce. You can't hear me, right? Live TV is always vaguely chaotic, and you need to have a very, very good, well-rehearsed team in place, which we clearly weren't. Ten seconds, Pierce. Push all three of these, okay? Okay, Rick, can you hear me? Mary Lou, you can hear me, yeah? Yes. Okay, cool. You look great. You're Mary Lou Henner. Just live it, baby. Here we go. And you guys rock. This is it. You're live. You're watching the QDC Sampler. Hello, everybody. My name's Rick, and this is actress, best-selling author and star Mary Lou Henner. Great to have you here at QDC. Oh, it's so great to be here, Rick. You have a lot of energy, and you're really excited, and you're excited here in the QDC. So they use Mary Lou. She's the project manager of this task. This was such a must-have for me. I said, I have to go on there and sell it, because this is the perfect two-and-one household item. Two-part item. Okay, you pull it out, and it's a ladder. I was gonna buy it for my husband. Now I'm buying it for myself. She really has energy, man. It can actually hold 300 pounds. 300 pounds. 9 1⁄2 feet in the air for me, because I'm 5'7". Change a light bulb. And you feel very secure when you're up there. Oh, I feel totally secure. But there's more. Fold it up, put out the little flap, and it's a cart. It's a hand truck. Oh, my gosh. A face, a face. I need a face. Ready? Here's 23. It's great for you, it's great for your husband. It's two-in-one. Two-in-one. It's $150 in brand-new silk. The ladder cart, but wait a second. Let's say we've gone to our garage, we've gotten our paint supplies, we're walking them into our kitchen. She's got great enthusiasm, but she's talking a lot. Let's go to the phone, and good afternoon. Oh, great. Karen from Pennsylvania. Hello, Karen, how are you? Hey, Karen. Hi. What are you shopping for, Karen? The hand truck and step ladder. Okay, Karen. Why did it come in handy for you? Why do you think it's going to come in handy? Oh, my gosh. It's going to come in handy, because how many times do you need a step ladder? Lifting things, storing things, your garage. Karen, why do you think it's going to come in handy for you? Mary Lou. Can't talk when she's on me. She sounds a little nervous. Not only that, she's nervous, and the other guy's talking, and she's talking, and they're both talking, and, like, you get a headache. She's jumping from one thing right into the next without sort of exploring it. And yet she's got great enthusiasm, so I don't know. Yeah. Once again, this is a step ladder. Oh, I love this thing. Thank you so much for joining us on QVC. Oh, thank you, and believe me, I'm taking my ladder cart home. We have more coming on the QVC Santa Club. Okay, bye-bye, everyone. Red's up, set's clear. That was nice. Good job. Way to go. Good job, Mary Lou. Nice job. That was good. I thought Mary Lou did great. I mean, she had huge energy, she kept going, she was passionate, she was vigorous. How was our volume? Well, it went down, then it began to go up, and then it began to stabilize and blah, blah, blah, but it definitely went back up. Let me tell you, she did a good job. She did a great job. Let's go say hi. No, no, you know, the only reason we would have lost is if it was the wrong product. 25 seconds, guys, 25 seconds, Trace. And I've got to get my jacket. Don't worry, I'll have that ready for you. My black jacket. Yeah, no worries. Green room. Trace is so nervous, I think he's going to pass out. I've never seen him this way. He's usually a really cool, laid-back cowboy. What is this thing on my neck right here? It's a piece of tape. Oh, is it that clip thing? Trace, can you hear us, buddy? Yeah, I hear you. Tito, do your thing. When Trace didn't get a chance to rehearse this stuff, and Stephen said, no, no, he'll get it, no problem, I was kind of sketched out a little bit. I'm kind of like, maybe I think Trace should rehearse it a couple times. All right, guys, we're going live in 5 seconds. Here we go. 3, 2, 1, and we're live. Thank you so much, Leah. We have something brand new in our QVC sampler tonight, Trace Atkins, one of the biggest names in country music. They're using the big voice. Sort of interesting that Stephen chose Trace to be on. I guess it's the voice, it's the demeanor. And there are several reasons I'm here today. The first of which I want to tell you about is this unit right here, the super sweeper. It's cordless, it's rechargeable, it's convenient, it's all those things. Back to jib, on the sweeper. There you go, perfect, Michael. Pick up some big nuts. Yeah, nuts and bolts and stuff, just all kinds of things. You're not kidding around. Yeah. Wow. It starts picking it all up. That's pretty good. And it's easy for him. It's not such a difficult prop, whereas the ladder, you're opening it, you're closing it, you're climbing it. I like that he used screws and bolts, because whoever heard of a vacuum cleaner picking up screws and bolts, that's pretty good. And another reason I'm here, I'm a father. I have five daughters, and they're always doing this craft stuff. Oh, yeah, projects. They're always making a mess. I mean, you know what it is with kids around. He's got a nice way about him. A very opposite attitude to Mary Lou. Calm, relaxed. There's just a little clip holding that in. You just pull that out, and you're done. So we thought that this was a great deal. Mention EasyPay. By the way, it's kind of unusual for something to be brand new and on five payments of EasyPay. It's on five payments of $11.99, so it's a great value. A little spike. I mean, this thing is so quick, too. Start to wrap it up, guys. I was so proud to be here with you today. Thank you. Good seeing you. I enjoyed this. Wonderful seeing you. You too, dear. Great having you here. There seems to be a lack of energy with him, but I think the lack of energy is almost confidence. She had great enthusiasm, but she didn't seem too calm. So it could play both ways. Thank you very much, guys. That was so awesome, Trace. You rocked it. You hit every point. My instincts were correct. Trace walked right through it. He was absolutely brilliant. Tito, kill her. I was watching the cells monitor itself. Thank you. Thanks for everything. I'm not really sure if we pulled this off. Did we pull it off? Maybe. We'll see what happens in the end. So I got to watch both performances on QVC. They were very different. How do you think you did, Marilyn? Well, we certainly had a lot of passion for the product. I think we played to each other's strengths. I was on a real learning curve because it was my first day on Hydra. You think you won? I think we won. I think we won. How do you think you did, Pierce? I have to say, for sheer energy, passion, leadership, Mary Lou, from the moment she heard it was QVC, said, this is mine. And I found her passion great. I thought Mary Lou was great in that she was very enthusiastic. Very, very enthusiastic over a ladder. A ladder's not the most exciting thing I've ever seen. Tito, what did you think? I thought we did a really great job with selling the product. Who was the star of your team, Tito? The star of our team would have to go to Trace, I think. I think he really sold it. I thought Trace was so calm. I was so impressed. You know, I always see them, they throw a couple of feathers down, they pick them up, big deal. This thing's picking up nuts and bolts and screws. I've never seen that before, and that was very impressive. Very good. Stephen, did Omarosa do a good job? Omarosa did an excellent job. Really? Yes, sir. Thank you. I have to be around people who bring out the best in me, Mr. Trump. Well, you seem to like this team a little bit better than peers. Absolutely. So, Stephen, the product that you sold was higher priced. Does that bother you? Are you a little bit worried about that? Not at all, sir. We implemented something that we learned historically on QVC is very helpful in sales, which is something called Easy Pay, which we made the product available at $59.95 with five payments of $11.99. You were very good, very enthusiastic, but you seemed a little bit nervous, I'm just saying, with Trace. It was a very calm situation over there. Both did a good job, but very, very different. This is going to be a tough one. Don, how did Empresario do? Empresario did really well. They sold 716 units for a total of $43,000. That's pretty good. Ivanka, how did Hydra do? Hydra sold 703 units for a total of $35,145. So the winner is Empresario. Okay, Hydra, there was a couple of bad decisions made, obviously. Number one, you sold less units at a lesser price and for less money. So that's pretty much of a romp. Wouldn't you say, Piers? You got beat. You got beat. You got beat. So you folks have done a great job. You were a fantastic host, and the nuts and bolts was a great idea. So I congratulate all of you. And as you know, Stephen, you're going to get $20,000 additional. You're doing very well, Stephen. $20,000 additional for your charity. And again, your charity? The Carol Baldwin Breast Cancer Research Fund. You'll stick with Mom, right? Absolutely, no question. Okay, very good. Well, congratulations. Go to the war room. You can watch. Thank you. Thank you, Mr. Trump. That was a great job. They did a very good job. Y'all, that is crazy. QVC was the most important to me because it was my second opportunity at winning this project manager. That was my favorite task. So winning another $20,000 for my mom's organization is a huge blessing. My mom's going to trip. She is, man. That's great. You've done good for your mom. Thanks, guys. Thank you, Jesus. So, Mary Lou, that was a loss. That was a loss. And it was a loss on something we felt very passionate about. So, Piers, who would you blame? Who would I blame? I'd blame the team. But who would you blame as an individual? Well, you see, I like leaders who show passion. I like leaders who— And she showed passion. Your leader showed passion. I've worked for lots of people on this show. She's a terrific woman. She showed passion. But she's the project manager, and you lost. So, you know, it's always a negative. Why didn't you use EasyPay? We didn't even know that that was an option. Well, if Carol has been on the show, do you think any of the responsibility lies with you, Carol, for not suggesting it? No, we used— Did you know about EasyPay? No. Between Carol and Mary Lou, you should have known that an installment plan on QVC is pretty common, right? I mean, I don't know if I've ever seen a product on there that doesn't have an installment plan. So, Piers, if you were me, who would you fire? Look, we've lost, and somebody has to get fired. I didn't really— Who would you fire, Piers? Who would I fire? Difficult one. Who contributed least? Sleepy Boy, who was asleep for most of the day because he'd been laid out. So, in terms of— Hang on, hang on a second. I wasn't asleep. I was asleep on the helicopter ride over. That's not a nice thing to say, though, Piers. It's true. It's true. You could say he slept or he didn't. When you say not very helpful, what do you mean not very helpful? Because I believe in this situation. Piers, it's just not a nice way of putting it. Well, it's on a derogatory term. Yeah, you could say somebody was, like, sleeping, but you don't call him Sleepy Boy. Why not? Well, I don't think it's very appropriate. Well, I apologize if it— It wasn't meant to be an insult. It was just a fact. Well, it is insulting. He's got Piers in his sights right now. Yeah. Piers is going home. Piers is going down, baby. The truth about our relationship is it's based on good old-fashioned British banter. He wouldn't take offense at what I just said, and he's called me a lot worse. I don't know. Would you take offense at what he said? Absolutely, because I wasn't sleeping. You were. You were sleeping. Merely was I sleeping? You were very low-key in the morning. I was trying to find your rhythm. When everything started, was I low-key? Well, I don't know you that well, so I don't— You were lower-key than anybody else on the team. Was I awake for my task? You were awake for your task. Yeah, but there's a lot of work that needs to be done before that. If you're asking me to get into the blame game, and I believe that when you look at these things, can I fault Mary Lou for leadership? No. Can I fault her for commitment, enthusiasm, dedication? No. But the team lost. But you can fault her on one thing. Yeah. I thought that she was very, like, talkative. You were so opposite-trace. He was so solid. Well, we have different energies, you can tell. No, no, you have a different energy. And your energy's just as good. It's a different kind of thing. Yeah, it's just a different kind of thing. But you were overdoing your energy. I know your energy. I understand your energy. You were overdoing your energy. So, Lennox, if you were me, who would you fire? Well, you know, I would say, you know, it all breaks down to the PM, but, you know, it's not my decision. Carol, if you were me, who would you fire? I agree it has to do with the PM because most of the decisions went back to her, although we all agreed because she was passionate and swayed us into the ladder. She really wanted this ladder. She was really passionate about it. I think our biggest problem was price point, obviously, and easy pay. I don't think price point had anything to do with it. This is a case where if you were $5 higher or $10 higher, it wouldn't have mattered that much. But I think the easy pay part of it. Well, that would have mattered. That's what I mean. That would have mattered. And so they had an advantage. And somebody's responsible for that. They had a big advantage. Right. But they figured that out. But, Piers, you'd actually say that you would fire Lennox. You asked me to get into the blame game. But Lennox isn't the reason you lost. No, I'm not saying that. I'm just saying that in the end, I would judge it more. I'm not as inclined as the other two to just pin it all on Mary Lou. I actually thought she led the team great. Piers is awfully subdued, y'all. Look at how mellow he is. I'm in shock. If a decision in the end rests with the project manager, Mary Lou wouldn't, I don't think, buck that charge. She took personal charge of it. So if, in your estimation, this was obviously quite personal, the project manager led from the front, she did the presentation, if you believe that the thing that let us down was the overexcitement of the presentation, clearly that's Mary Lou's problem. Piers, I keep saying that. It makes it very hard for Mary Lou now to buck that charge. Well, I happen to think Mary Lou is terrific. Yeah, so do I. I'm not doing that. I'm just saying it depends on the criteria for judgment. If you'd ask me who gave the least contribution, I would simply say that Lennox, when he's had sleep, is great, and when he hasn't, he doesn't contribute very much. You know, I've seen Lennox sleepy in the ring. All of a sudden he knocks the guy out. Everyone's like, what happened? Well, this time we didn't knock anybody out. Don't be deceived. You know what, don't be deceived by Lennox. Mary Lou, who would you fire? Well, if you're expecting every single person to contribute a lot and to take, fill up the, you know, pick up the slack, I don't, I, you know, I mean, I, let's put it this way. Who would you fire? Mary, stop talking so much. I think that's why you lost. You talk too much. Who would you fire? I was going to say Lennox. Watch. Come on. You know what, don't give me an answer. I want you to tell me who's going away, who's going to be free, and then three of you are coming back into the boardroom. Who are you going to absolve right now? In terms of our individual responsibilities to the staff. In terms of who are you going to let go? Who did the best job? For me, Carol. Carol did the best job? Yes. Okay. That means Carol's free. Congratulations, Carol. That's excellent. So then the three of you go out. You're going to come back in a couple of minutes. Thank you very much. Okay. Thank you. I like seeing you in this position. Oh, dear. Bye, Carol. Well done. Don't say bye. No. You never know, do you? I don't know who's going home in a city. You never know. What do you think, Ivanka? I think in this situation, it seems like the fault has to lie with Mary Lou. She led the team. She was the on-air talent. She really took on a lot of responsibility, and the buck stops with her. What do you think, Don? I think I agree overall about the project manager, but I'm really surprised Mary Lou let Carol go. I mean, I don't believe for a minute Carol didn't know about Easy Pay. Of course she must have. You don't think so? Of course not. She'd fronted five years. She'd worked for QVC. Yeah. So I would have kept her in just for that. I was like, of course she knew. Yeah. How do you say you don't know? That was a big one. I mean, five years. You worked for a company. You've never heard of Easy Pay. Come on. So I think the blame actually for that lay with her. Absolutely. Square one. So, Mary Lou, why would I fire Piers over you when you were the project manager and ultimately were responsible for all of this? Whether it was Lennox or Carol or Piers, you were responsible. Why? Because I'm a better player in terms of, you know, what I bring in so many different levels on so many different areas. I know, but we're talking about this task. Why did you bring back Lennox over Carol, who had experience and didn't know about the credit system, et cetera, et cetera? I brought back Lennox over Carol because I know Carol's work ethic and I also saw her in action all day long, constantly working hard, you know, doing what she needed to do. Lennox, as Piers mentioned, was very sleepy, especially for the first half of the day, and I never saw him, like, pick up a ball and run with it. It was very difficult on the team to know exactly what Lennox was doing at any given time. But you're supposed to be the project manager, so aren't you supposed to be sort of telling him what to do? No, and I was telling him what to do. I'm surprised Carol's not here. I'm a little surprised that Carol's not here, too, because she knew the system and you didn't use her and she didn't volunteer it. Maybe she should have volunteered. She said that she had never heard of Easy Pay and she never used it before. I think that's ridiculous. That's not very observant of her. Sorry, the idea that Carol did not know in five years? She's been there for a while. She hasn't done it for a while. If the Easy Pay was the reason we lost, then someone who was working for QVC for five years was never aware of their main price plan? I mean, I find that... I'm incredulous. You know what I find more amazing? For the first time, you're sweating. What the hell are you sweating for? I've never seen you sweat. I'm amazed I wasn't released back into the community. No, can I tell you, I've never seen you sweat. You went after Omarosa, you weren't sweating, you were cool. I mean... I'm also... I'm looking at you now. I'll tell you why I got here. I'll be honest with you. I don't want to get fired, so I always sweat when I'm about to get fired. I just think it's very difficult in my father's situation unless you really isolate somebody as having terribly underperformed. Ivanka. So you can't really blame anyone. Thank you. I really appreciate you saying that because I'm in a very difficult position. Well, I felt like I really only had three people to work with because, really, honestly, Lennox was not there for the first morning. Lennox is not the reason you lost. But if we had had another fourth person able to do research and help us create the product and the price point and things like that... Lennox was not the reason you lost. I mean, the truth is, Mary Lou, the reason we lost this task is because of the project manager. And it hurts me to say this, but, Mary Lou, you're fired. And you are a terrific woman. Get the hell out of here. Thank you. Hey. You guys, it was great. I'm so sorry I'm not going to work with you. I know. Me too. Bye. She's a very high-quality woman. It's hard, because that is a nice person. You couldn't do anything about that. She played the game well. She's a good person, but it's a decision you have to make. Sleepy boy's back. The overall experience of being on The Apprentice was a blast. I've been a fan of The Apprentice for a long time. Mr. Trump was very sweet, and I now feel like a member of the Trump family. I'm feeling great because I played the game with integrity, energy, passion, and resilience.