The HIDDEN Message in Savannah Guthrie's New Video to Alleged Kidnapper

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Jul 31, 2026
Megyn Kelly is joined by James Fitzgerald, co-host of "Cold Red Podcast," and Maureen O'Connell, co-host of "Big City Crime - Inside the Red Tape," to discuss Savannah Guthrie's latest direct message this week aimed at her mother's alleged kidnapper, the notable language in the video, and more.
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AI GeneratedA panel of experts analyzes a video message from Savannah Guthrie, who pleads for information regarding her mother's abduction. The discussion focuses on the psychological framing of the plea, the possibility that a ransom was paid, and the specific motives of the perpetrator.
I do have a couple of questions for you guys about that video.
Can we just watch it? Let's just watch it again. Um,
because there's a couple of comments in there that we should discuss.
Here we go.
I'm coming on today with a very specific message.
It has been months since our mom was taken from us.
Our family is in agony.
We are in a nightmare that will not end.
Nothing about our situation has changed.
We have done our part and we will never stop looking for her.
We will always ache for her and feel that hole in our hearts.
The world can be a cruel and unforgiving place.
And I know that you have tried to do things the right way.
So I'm asking you, begging you to do the right thing.
Now make the right choice. Help us find her.
Tell us where to look for her.
I truly believe it is never too late to do the right thing.
Help us bring this situation to an end for all of us,
no matter where we've been and what we've done.
I believe there is always a way home. Please make the right choice.
Okay. Fitz as our linguist, what do you make of her message?
Uh, what is very clear in that message to me is two words.
You want, I think this person, this was a personal grievance,
the whole kidnapping of, uh, I should say abduction of Nancy.
And in, in, in, in so many words, they're actually in specific words,
a nightmare that will not end agony, the ache for her,
which of course no one is denying is true on the Guthrie family part,
but she's basically saying, you've made your point. You've done your thing.
You showed us, then she didn't use those words,
didn't make it confrontational. Then,
then kind of backed off and said, look, please do the right thing.
I actually said that at least two times, there's always a way home.
And it's clear now.
And I'd like to believe that Nancy is still alive and among us too,
but the odds are she is not.
And all they're asking for at this point or some kind of, of, uh, you know,
GPS coordinates of where perhaps the body could be found.
Nothing more, nothing less than that. And, and give,
give the family some sort of closure,
but essentially this is a concession on the family's part.
And it may have been hinted at in earlier messages. And I,
I do believe the FBI probably the profilers,
some of them who I trained back in the day, uh, uh, you know,
they helped her craft this. She's smart enough, clever enough.
She can put the words together herself,
but they made sure that they were,
they were framed in certain contexts. So not to offend anyone.
She basically pay him a compliment. You know, you did your thing, but, um,
but we're still hurting. You want, please at least give us this part.
And, uh, and we'll all move on from there. Meaning tell us where Nancy can be
found.
I mean,
it is interesting when you think back to the fact that the ransom notes were
addressed to Savannah, right?
We've learned that over the past couple of months that the two ransom notes,
or at least one of them was addressed dear Savannah.
So it does appear she was at the heart of this crime. Um, she,
the daughter and her fame, her celebrity and obsession, her money,
who know, we don't know. We don't know what the motive was, but again,
here she comes out and Annie's not there. The brother's not there.
It's just Savannah on cam once again, saying we're in agony.
It's almost like to your point fits. I want you to know you've succeeded.
I'm in utter agony.
You've succeeded in seriously hurting me and I remain extremely hurt.
Like this is something the guy needs.
This is something she and the FBI have calculated will be helpful for
him to hear. Maybe not to have pity on her,
but as you put it to believe he's been victorious, you know,
I don't know that he's going to have pity on her because he stole her mother and
apparently killed her or allowed her to die.
But like, if he feels he's one, you know,
he feels like she had rejected him by not responding to his letters that she
may or may not have received. I've told the audience before,
when I had my very bad errata maniac stalker, um,
you've got a very, very serious sentence for this case. Um,
he not only was he contacting me directly,
but he was leaving letters for me all over Washington, DC,
like in national cathedral at the, at the CIA HQ, or, you know,
outside of it, like, and thinking I was receiving these, you know,
this is not ordered thinking. So, right.
So this guy may have felt rejected by Savannah because she didn't respond to a
letter. He left, you know, at ABC headquarters instead of NBC,
who the hell knows. Um, but I see what you're saying. Like it's her,
like, forgive the term, but like showing the belly, like, okay. Like, you know,
uncle, I give up. You've, you've beaten us.
Just throw us a bone now, but you know, the one thing Maureen,
and I'd love to get your thoughts on all that too,
but we have to discuss the phrase. We've done our part. We've done our part.
What does that mean when I heard that?
And when I talked about it to the other homicide detectives on my
podcast, Tim Murphy, one of the investigators said,
it sounds to me like they paid the ransom, you know,
because we've all talked before about,
we know that some of these notes,
we know about these notes that were sent to TMZ and to other places.
But we also knew that there was a possibility that some notes made it to
Savannah, um, without being, um, uh, you know,
presented to these live outlets where everyone would hear about them.
So I'm wondering, and I wanted to ask Fitz actually,
is there a chance that she did receive information from
the offender and did in fact pay the part of the
ransom or pay what they asked? And now she said, Hey, we've done our part,
step up and do what you said you were going to do.
And since you're asking me, Maureen, yes, of course, there's a chance for that.
We have no evidence or information to us on the outside and Megan and
Brianette and other people have some pretty good sources.
I think that information would have come across, uh, what, what exactly, uh,
Savannah meant by we did our part that is unclear,
but at least she's probably responding to one of these communications that came
in hoping against hope that the person who actually took her mother was the
one responsible for at least one of those communications.
I know we're calling them notes, whatever, or that it came to Savannah,
the media, uh, what have you. But, uh, to me,
it's still inconclusive that they were in fact, ransom,
legitimate ransom demands by the person who we saw on the,
on the next, uh, uh, camera take, uh, take the, take Nancy.
So, uh, so she's still saying she responded and did everything that she's
supposed to do. So please quid pro quo, whoever you are,
whether you wrote these letters, notes, communications or not,
tell us where our mother is. That's all we're asking.
But the interesting thing about we've done our part.
I agree with your friend, Maureen there at the homicide detective.
That's how I heard it too. Like did, did they pay, did they,
did they belatedly pay the $6 million like this week?
And that's why she pops up to say we've done our part. And maybe the entire,
everything around that, those words was window dressing.
Like the whole purpose of the message was that we've done our part.
But I do recall that Harvey Levin and the other two local
Tucson stations that received the original ransom note,
have the Bitcoin address. Um,
like they had to provide how you can pay us.
And they provided an account into which she could deposit the Bitcoin.
It was going to be 4 million if she paid by Thursday and it goes up to 6
million. If she did, if she waited until the following Monday, uh,
eight days after Nancy was taken.
And there was that period where Harvey Levin,
because he saw the Bitcoin address was updating us on whether
anything had been paid. So I don't understand Bitcoin,
but apparently if you just know the address of somebody's account,
you can check it to see whether there's been activity in it.
And he was aware that remember when the FBI had
like a hundred bucks or 300 bucks deposited in there to see if the
perpetrator would take it. He knew we found that out because of him.
So I feel like Harvey, you know,
Harvey enjoys being on television breaking news about this
case. So I feel like he would have come out to say,
holy ----, we, we got a live one for you. You know,
6 million bucks was just deposited into the Bitcoin account.
It could be the FBI said, something's going to happen.
Keep your mouth shut Harvey.
And they would have had to go to the two local Tucson stations to say that as
well, keep your mouth shut. Um, but I don't know.
That's a lot of activity for Harvey to stay entirely off cam.
He doesn't seem to be able to help himself to go out there and just titillate
us with something he knows that we don't know.
He's been very quiet lately.
And he did also say during those interviews,
you just referenced that he talked to the FBI about potentially
ponying up the money himself to put some money in there to see if they could
follow it, you know? So it's not like the other guy,
that's in response to the other guy's demands that like I've seen them in
Mexico and I just want one Bitcoin to tell you where they are. Keep going.
But he's open to that type of, um, undercover operation essentially.
And so, you know, there, I, I agree.
And I think that for some reason,
and Fitz would obviously know better than I, um,
there just seems to be some feminine component to that. Um,
second note in particular, and Jim Clemente would agree.
Also we talked about it on our podcast, best case, worst case the other day.
And it just seems like there are words and phrases in there that are
meant to almost soothe, um, or calm, um,
Savannah. I, I, I, it just seems the phrases just seem more feminine.
And the words like perished and, um, um,
I can't think of the other ones buried in nature with nature. Yeah.
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