The Real Beauty Products Celebrities Actually Use (No SponCon!) Our #DamnGood Edit

Welcome back to Breaking Beauty Podcast, everyone. I'm one of your co-hosts, Jill Dunn. We're in your feed. So it must be Wednesday. I'm here alongside Carlene Higgins. Hello. Like we are every single Wednesday. It's the hot, hot summer. It's the middle of July. And so we wanted to do like a fun episode this week. Our most popular episode, the hashtag damn goods. Yeah. So as you know, every week we're in your feed talking about the breakthrough people, products, and moments in beauty and what's popping right now, and every month we do what we call our hashtag damn good episodes where we talk about the damn good products that are lining store shelves. And we usually have a theme. A lot of times it's around a season like spring, summer, what have you. But since we already did our summer roundup, we were like, let's just have some fun. Absolutely. And you know, being from the magazine world, we were always obsessed with the topic that we are doing today. Like it was always a headline. Yeah. And so the headline today is. Da da da da. The damn good products that celebrities actually use and asterisks around unsponsored. So we really dug down. Jill is like a beauty sleuth. So I know she's going to be hitting us with some really legit products that are unsponsored that celebrities are actually out there using. That's what we really want to know. We don't want to know what they're getting paid for. Yeah. And I think that the era that we are in Carleen and what is so different from our magazine days is that we came up in sort of the era of the celebrity spokesperson. So the Lancome face, the L'Oreal Paris face. Yes, that's still exists. But in this day and age, every celebrity has a brand. So when they're actually talking about something that they don't own, it's like my ears are perking up. Yeah. You know what I mean? And I'm, and I'm genuinely interested. Absolutely. And also like a big topic of conversation that we were talking about earlier this year was this idea of product placement. You had some great pop culture examples of just how with marketing, these brands are getting really smart and also really ballsy about how they show up. Yes. In these pop culture television shows or movies that everyone's talking about. And we just came off of what I call panel season, where it's like can lie in all these advertising panels. And I saw a clip on my social media of a girl who works for a big advertising agency, and she was talking about how they pride themselves on not paying for any of the placements. So there are whole entire agencies out there dedicated to trying to get products placed, movies, TV shows, backgrounds of podcasts. But I'm just, when I'm scrolling, I'm always thinking about that. What is paid? What is not? What is a little snuck in there? And I think this is really in the ether right now because like we said, it's really pushed past the threshold where they are getting really ballsy, where it's like the characters in the shows are using talking points from like a marketing brief, which is what we would do when we're being paid to talk about something that we feel like we align with. Or one of our advertisers. One of our advertisers. Which we always disclose everyone. And they don't disclose. And this is what kind of rubs me the wrong way. And what we've talked about before, we always disclosed from day one. But there are definitely social media people out there who are not disclosing, who are endorsing products that they're being paid for. They're not being upfront with the fact that they're being paid. And so I think that's what really inspired our episode was like, let's go out there and find the products that celebrities are really using and seemingly not being paid. And I feel like this is, there is a very small window of time left to be able to do an episode like this, because I think marketers are just getting kind of more and more clever about how to do this. Especially in movies where they don't make them disclose. Well, and my whole theory on this is that Barbie changed the game forever. Barbie, the machine of the Barbie movie marketing just opened up this floodgate where now they are thinking about marketing briefs two years in advance. And they're going, what's coming out in that timeframe? Who can we align with? And we saw that with Devil Wears Prada for sure. They're probably funding the movie. Like literally the movie might not get made had not, you know, and we have seen this in past, this is actually not new, but beauty is getting really into it. But like the James Bond movies that were sponsored by Tag or whatever the watch brand was or the car, like I'm sure I've seen a James Bond movie that was funded by a car company. If you guys are listening and you're part of the film industry and you know this stuff, come talk to us, jump into our DMs, comment on our Instagram. We want to know the insider intel. But for for today, we are getting sneaky. Yeah. So today we are going to be recapping some top beauty products that celebrities love. Skincare, of course, even hair color, drugstore, some indie brands, not surprisingly, some makeup artists founded brands. And I think it's really cool that we are, of course, are over 450 episodes in and it's a bit of a flex because we can say firsthand what some of these celebrities have told us themselves on our podcast. Yeah. So we're kind of mining our own archives here as well, which I think is really fun. Yeah. And it's the summer. So let's do it. Let's dive into the hashtag damn good products that celebs actually love and use right now. OK, Jill, I'm going to let you kick it off. What is the latest that you have found, whether it's scrolling through TikTok or whatever magic that you do? There's like a funny kind of like meme that I sent you. It's a sound where what was it again? It's like professional finder outer. She's a professional finder outer, everybody. So let's find out what she's found out lately. Yeah. So this actually floored me because we know that K-Beauty is so huge, but we don't necessarily see celebrities talking about it. Yeah. Right. So this one was from Selena Gomez. It's the Medicube Salmon DNA PDRN Pink Collagen Jelly Gel Mask. It's 19 US dollars for four or thirty two dollars for four in Canada. And by the way, you can buy these single sheets. I think they're like six bucks to buy them individually. Now, Selena Gomez posted a carousel on her Instagram and she was wearing this in like slide number 10 or something. And so it just made the rounds. It was on InStyle. It was on everywhere, every single celebrity outlet. And this has been around since 2024, this product. So I thought it was interesting that she's sort of like jumping on the train now. And we've all seen these probably on social media. So these are the ones that are the two piece jelly mask that is absolutely soaked in serum. And these are the ones that go on pink and then you leave it on for like three or four hours or overnight and it dries to clear. So you often see people wearing these on flights. It's a slippery little sucker to quote pretty woman. But you've seen these. And they are like soaking with product. So lovely. Like a little jellyfish. Yes. Slash the bologna that was thrown in the breakfast club. If you remember that movie from the 80s from Shed X, putting it on my arm. Is that OK? Yeah, go for it. Oh, yeah. So I always travel with these, by the way, before she even talked about it. So I love these because sheet masks in hotel rooms, they hit different. I'm sorry. They really do. And it's like a nice treat when you're like trying to get your skin right after a long flight or wearing it on the flight. I've never gone that far, but I would. And what I think you would like about this, Carlene, is that it actually is proven, you guys, to cool down your skin temperature 7.9 degrees. Wow. So we're in the summer. That's also why we wanted to talk about it, because it is literally so cooling. And I when I wake up and I feel like kind of flushed putting one of these on. There are many brands out there. But now we know that Selena is a fan of this product. And I wouldn't be surprised. Like maybe she's testing this. Is she going to come out with like a rare beauty one? Well, she would be busted. Yeah. Now we know the inspirations. Now we know she's wearing it on her arm. Now, if you're a skeptic and you're listening, you might say, Jill, how stupid are you? Like, of course, she's also being paid to be using it. I don't think so, though, because she didn't put any branding in it. She just put the actual sheet mask. And people were able to ID it? Yes, because it is pink and it is so integral to their brand. And then subsequently, Medicube reposted it. OK, so somebody must have confirmed it on our team. I think so. Yeah. So that's a fun one. And I feel like at that affordable price point, it's like Selena, she's just like us. And do we think Benny Blanco wears these? Definitely. Definitely. He does not shy away from a beauty routine. Yeah, I absolutely agree. The first time that, Jill, you and I talked about this topic, you had called out a Taylor Swift lip liner. And I'm sure we're going to talk about some Taylor Swift sleuthing that you have found in a little bit. And I had done a similar TikTok post for Celine Dion. I'm going to let you know what I spied on Celine Dion's top shelf. This was in her documentary, which is called I Am Celine, I believe. Correct. Now, did you buy tickets? This is very timely because Selena's doing it. She's coming back this year. She's doing a residency in Paris in September and October of this year. Nice. So I've been online. I've seen a lot of people talking about going, but this will be a huge deal. So, yeah, you know, get ahead of the trends. And now, you know what she'll probably be wearing or bringing backstage. Exactly. So Celine Dion's documentary came out in twenty twenty four. Did you see it? Yes. It was so good. Yeah, it was really good. It was really good. It really explained some of the physical challenges that she's had. And it was kind of like heartbreaking at times. I loved when she talked about making the shoes fit no matter what. Exactly. She was just like, the pain is worth it for fashion. Exactly. But her vanity was like a cornucopia of products. And again, we've been talking about product placement, but you can kind of tell when it's unintentional, where products are kind of blurry. Yeah. Or they're like tipped on their side. Yeah. They've been turned sideways. So you can't quite see the label. I feel like that's when there's not probably an endorsement. That's what I was saying about the Metacube not seeing the label or anything. It's just like, if you know, you know. Exactly. Exactly. And this is where us as beauty editors really can clock in. So the first product that I noticed on her top shelf is the Orbea Superfine Hairspray. I'm holding it here. And this one is forty six dollars U.S. and sixty dollars in Canada. And one thing that I will say is it's not the iconic dry shampoo. Right. The dry shampoo. That's not a dry shampoo, by the way. Right. It's a dry texturizing spray. I always call it a dry shampoo. To me, it is. That's it's like the same thing, you know, banana, banana. I don't know. Right. But this one, I knew it was not the texturizing spray because the texturizing spray has the gold like fireworks have gone on it, whereas this one is just straight black. So the Superfine Hairspray is exactly like it says. It's Superfine in the documentary. She's wearing like very slick back hair, almost like a ballerina bun. Right. And the PR confirmed that it was that product, along with Cream for Style is a secondary product. And I actually asked them, I did fact check and I said, can you confirm that this was not a product placement and that this was strictly organic? And they did confirm that. So I think we can safely say Celine Dion, legitimate Orbe fan. Makes sense. And then she had a treasure trove of other things. The Tom Ford Soleil Blanc is a good summer scent, actually. It's fantastic for the summer. And it's so it's such an obvious one, because if you know the Tom Ford fragrances and the little bottles, they're mostly amber, but the Soleil Blanc is distinctively white. And yeah, this one is so beautiful for summer. She is not afraid to spend the money on the fragrance, let me tell you, because this one is three hundred dollars US, three hundred and ninety in Canada for this size, which is 50 mils. That's one point seven fluid ounces. And yeah, it just smells like a dream vacation in a bottle. Yeah. She also had a turquoise, very white floral. This fragrance. Yeah. I can tell you some of the notes in it. Warm and sweet gourmand. It's a bit spicy. It has Coco de Mer, Ylang Ylang and cardamom. And she also had a turquoise one next to it, which is probably the Portofino one that is famous. But because they have a few different turquoise ones, I could not confirm that. And then she had a bunch of other things. There was an obvious Laneige Lip Sleeping Mask in Sweet Candy, Guerlain Abbey Royal Honey Treatment Night Cream. I was able to identify it was exactly the night cream. So apparently she's a Guerlain fan. I don't blame her. She's very top shelf luxury, guys. Yeah. And lastly, very iconic and obvious, the Charlotte Tilbury Magic Cream. This one's one hundred and five dollars US, one hundred and fifty in Canada. And it has just been reformulated. Jill, did you know that? I did. Yeah. And that's risky business for such an iconic product. So the new one is said to be infused with a first to market recover stem peptide. I don't know, guys, like I saw some. Something's not right. Why on earth would Charlotte Tilbury touch it? There's no way. I know. And so I was like, maybe this is part of the foundation's thing where it was that same ingredient. I don't know. But yes, I agree with you. There's something the finder outer over there has her. I guess it's. Yeah. I think we also should make mention, by the way, we are going to link to everything because we're going a little bit faster here. We're going to link to everything on our website. And this is also on YouTube. If you want to check it out, we're going to be showing what we're talking about. And like, that's the thing we can't just we can't discern. Yeah. If this stuff was gifted to them. Oh, that I don't know. Yeah. And most likely it is. Right. So I think that is a well-made point as well, because there are certain brands that have entire teams. They just send it out ad nauseum to AA list people. I think they're fans. Are they actually out there buying this stuff? We don't know. Most likely not. The first move that would be made is that the PR would contact the brand, if anything, and request it and say, Celine Dion is a big fan of this. Can you send it? They'd probably send it on the monthly. I don't think Celine would. I don't think she would request. I think, though, she gets a ton sent to her and she uses what she loves. And and that's on that. And she is our French Canadian queen. Quebec. Yeah. OK, so we also want to talk about, as I mentioned, some products that we were told firsthand that celebrities love. And my mind instantly went to our conversation with Tracee Ellis Ross because she's a huge beauty girl and she was just talking about her vanity. And she talked about her mask buffet on a Sunday. She's putting one on and then another one and another one. She talked a lot about Biologique Recherche. And she also talked about Mae Lindstrom, who is an esthetician. She's an incredible formulator of products. She's been on our show. You have to watch that episode. She has one of the most incredible stories. And one of the body products, because it is summer, I wanted to shout this out, that Tracee Ellis Ross adores. She said it's the Mae Lindstrom Happy Galaxy Body Oil. It's 160 U.S. dollars, $2.18 in Canada. Yeah. These are like handcrafted. They truly are. It actually has expiry dates like food on it. That's how sort of fresh these ingredients are. So I have one here. It says on it, Made Fresh. On the bottom, it says Made Fresh, February 2026. This smells like heaven. What Tracee specifically said about it on our show, she said, I love her body oil. I do it soaking wet when I come out of the shower and I slather myself in the oil and then I towel it off. Yeah. So she towels off any excess. But you guys, the smell of this oil is heavenly. And you can put it in the bath. Oh, and it comes out that blue, that kind of her signature. Yeah. So it's got camellia in there. Plum, metafoam, blue tansy, which is her signature. Jasmine, ylang ylang, geranium rose, lavender and citrus peel. And there's just so many people out there in the industry saying clean this, clean that. If you want to talk about truly like. I'm bastardized. Yeah. Like I don't really know how to say it, but it's like. Low processed. Yeah. Yes. What I've said before, it's like low pro, low processed ingredients. And it's just so stunning on your bath. I'm not surprised that Tracee Ellis Ross has this. Yeah. She also talked about how she loves the blue cocoon, which is her moisturizer that is like a solid balm to oil kind of concentrate. Amazing on your skin for before or after a flight. It smells like heaven. It has gone up a lot in price. It is actually three hundred Canadian dollars now for one. So she has said, though, she literally can't lower the price, right? Because they would be losing money. Yeah. You know, oh, I won't dip my fingers in it. So it's like virgin blue. It's pristine. But I will say maybe not for rosacea this one. It's it's I find it on my cheeks. It's good. Yeah. As a balm. But it is. Yeah, it's ultimately it does have oils in it and essential oils. So you may not love that. And then Tracee Ellis Ross also said, I layer moisturizer on my face in a major way. And then I love, love, love her hydrating mist. It's unbelievable. So that's the Jasmine Garden Botanical Facial Mist, which, again, are super trendy right now. But made it at first. Yeah, I've been having it. There's a whole aroma therapeutic quality to the brand. So if you believe in aromatherapy, if you like that experience, I personally do. I love a spa scent. They really nail it. And also the body oil, I would say, is incredible for summer legs. If you're the type of person like me where you need that zhuzhing to feel confident before going out in like the Bermuda shorts. I would I would. Yeah, that's precisely, Karleen, why I wanted to mention it for like a summer episode, because, you know, I'm not a self-tanner person. Yeah, but I love something like this right after the shower and it dries down like you don't feel greasy. Yeah. Moving on. Yeah. So I think that a lot of celebrities, in my opinion, use professional skincare products. And by that, what I mean is esthetician recommended because I think they go and get their facials, which they have to do for their jobs. And they rely on estheticians to recommend products for their skin type. And it makes so much sense. And so that's why I think that when you do spot products on top shelves of these celebrities, like you said, the Biologique Recherche brought this P50 lotion, because we know it has been recommended and spotted on so many celebrities top shelves. And Tracee Ellis Ross talked about BR as being one of her favorite brands. Yeah. And this is what I mean. It's like they're going, they're getting the facials and then they get sold on the product. So it's no coincidence. I think that on Justin Bieber's top shelf, what I spotted in the opening scene of his documentary. What documentary was this? Was the documentary Our World. So the opening scene, he gets out of bed. Hailey Bieber is clearly sleeping beside him and he goes into the bathroom and you just get to see everything on the top shelf in the bathroom. Very intimate. Now, technically, some of those products could be Hailey Bieber's, but he goes in there, brushes his teeth. And there's some very obvious men's cologne like Pasha de Cartier Noir, which was a limited edition, very top shelf, you know, very chic. Interestingly, there's also a random Bond No. 9 New York Nights cologne. Do they still make that brand? Yeah, it was a limited edition. I don't think that could be found. So lo and behold, there's a Biologique Recherche mask in there, which at first I thought was Masque Vivant. Yeah. But I really zoomed in and I could tell by the writing and how many lines there were that it was actually Masque Visolatine. This is a long lasting moisturizing mask. OK. So that was on the top shelf. Again, so you get that like probably given to him by a facialist. Sure. And then also Elta MD sunscreen. There were a couple of those. No surprise there. Top, top shelf. I love the Elta MD now. I am a fiend for the green tinted one because I have so much skin redness. So it just gives like a little bit of color correcting at the same time. I love the UV sheer. My daughter stole it from me. My husband uses it. Call me Elta MD. And he also uses I spotted this because it was the exact same one as me. The Philips Sonicare Diamond Clean. I love it. Yeah, and I knew it was the same one as me because it's very distinctively in that little glass, which is the recharger. Right. Well, that's the old school one. Exactly. Yeah, but he's brushing his teeth with that one. I had it. So I know that's the toothbrush that Justin Bieber brushes his teeth with. But interestingly, there was one Sephora product, which is the Paula's Choice Niacinamide 20% Treatment. I'm holding it here. It's the little purple vial. It's fifty five dollars U.S. and 80 in Canada. And that was very distinctively on the vanity as well. And would have been something that probably wasn't recommended by an esthetician. So I thought that was kind of interesting. Well, the whole time you were talking, my mind just went to this era where this documentary came out, what came out. How do we know that was Justin's? Because this could have all been groundwork Haley was doing for Road. Well, which launched in mid June twenty twenty two. Yeah, well, I don't think she has a 20 percent concentration of niacinamide, but I will say that's what I said. Some of those products could have belonged to Haley. Yes. You know, because I think Justin being coming from a proactive pedigree, if I'm not mistaken. Yeah, I don't know that he would have been using that moisturizing the mask from Bialyze Groshear. So I do wonder if that may have been Haley's. Right. Yeah. That would make sense. Yeah. Well, then she came out with a barrier cream and her own mask and all of that. So anyhow. Yeah, that's interesting. Yeah. So that was my sleuthing. OK, I love it. Now I want to talk about Taylor Swift because we have to. And we did an episode back in October when the Life of a Showgirl came out and we talked about a lot of the items on Taylor's vanity that we thought she used. And at that time, it was before her documentary came out. Her documentary about the heiress tour came out in December. We did that episode in late October. So there's some updates, everybody. The biggest update is about her lip combo that she actually wore on stage. And it was quite shocking. It was the most millennial lip combo ever. OK, because everybody thought she used Pat McGrath for years. And she still might. Right. To a degree, but not on stage. And we saw this herself putting it on herself. So this is and we mentioned this briefly in the episode and an episode we did in February, I believe. But the lip combo was the Smashbox be legendary line and prime lip pencil in true red. It's 24 U.S. dollars and 32 in Canada. And what she used on top was the Mac Locked Kiss 24 hour lipstick in the shade Ruby True, 34 U.S. dollars, 47 in Canada. And how I clocked this in her docuseries was it's white. The Smashbox lip pencil, actual pencil part is very distinctive because it is white. And she had worn it down to this, the stub. And she was putting it on herself, putting it on all over. And then she put this on top. Oops. Amazing. And I love that it's called the legendary as well. Yeah, it's like the stars are aligning well. And I had made the video about it that then Vogue picked up and then I got a press kit from. I saw that from a Smashbox that said at Broken Vogue. And I said, actually. Oh, I didn't write that. I got a package from them talking about, you know, just they were getting press around it and sending it out to people for people to try as they should. But the little card inside said as broke in Vogue. Oh, actually, I am adjacent to this because a little backstory. I made the video as soon as I saw it. Yeah, I videoed the TV and I made the video. I think it was like right before Christmas. Yeah. And that's how Vogue picked it up. And they did give you credit. They absolutely did. Yeah. Yeah. But I just thought it was a funny little full circle moment. And then I actually saw and shot myself in the back end. Yeah. That when they approached us for some gifting or mentions or whatever they had said as seen on Taylor Swift and the documentary. And I was like, OK, yeah, yeah. No, it's I mean, yeah, you run with it. You see something like that. Oh, my God, it's gold. At the time I made my video, I said Christmas came early. Yeah. Smashbox. And we love the brand. And I'll be interested. I mean, when this episode comes out, I'm pretty sure by now it might be Mrs. Travis Kelsey. Will she wear this on her wedding day? We don't know. That would be pretty iconic to wear red lips on your wedding day. I don't think she will. Isn't there some kind of a betting app we can use? Jackson Polly Market is calling us. Oh, I joke. I joke. I, I predict, I predict. Not betting app, prediction app. I predict that she will wear pink for once. No, she'll probably wear a neutral. It is true. But I just think this is great. And I thought one thing Smashbox said about it was that their lip liner lasts through 40 songs or more, which is because like how she how many she did on the tour. So I needed to give that little update. And it does really last. Yeah. So that is really the best endorsement is when you see celebrities using products as opposed to even just on the vanity where there's still a bit of a guessing game. Like we said, is it Justin? Is it Haley's? When they're actually using it, especially in the wild, that tells you that they actually use it because there are, of course, the Vogue videos where they're in the bathroom. But those are so easily you could have like snuck in paid endorsements that are not disclosed. So I didn't look at any of those Vogue videos for any reporting. However, it is pretty well known that Kate Middleton was spotted in the wild using the Clarins Lip Perfector. Yeah. Lip gloss in the shade O1, very distinctive color. So that's how it was spotted in the UK. She used it back in 2019 at Wimbledon. But I have no doubt because of the, you know, like fervor around what the Royals use, that people are still probably buying it based on seeing that in 2019. Of course. I can't believe they still make that. That seems so old school. I know. The applicator and stuff. But it's honestly just so it kind of looks like a juicy tube, like a like a juicy tube where it's just like you squeeze it. It's got this little spongy tip. And then this is a very neutral, peachy pink that you would imagine on Kate Middleton. So the thing about the Royals is that they are not allowed to endorse anything. I forget what the decree is. I think even being gifted things is severely frowned upon. Yeah. Yeah. Working members of the British royal family are prohibited from endorsing, promoting or advertising any products. And I think that's why people are so interested, because that's why when you spot this, it's like, you know, she bought it. She, you know, she bought it. She used it. It's like the J Brand jeans, the Smythe Blazer and the LK Bennett pumps. Yeah, it was all it was all unmistakable. But she never once ever told anybody what it was. But you can just do some simple deductions. Right. And now we know. Well, I'm pretty sure that there are blogs that are 100 percent devoted to just following these people around, getting the latest photos and trying to decode. And, you know, and of course, now we have affiliate links. So these people are like, I'm pretty sure I did find one of those websites. It's so janky, but you know that people are like swearing by it. Yeah. And so anyway, it reminded me of Kate Middleton's wedding day, which we talked about with Bobby Brown and how she used Bobby Brown products. And that was confirmed. Bobby Brown herself did not do the makeup. It was Hannah Martin. But that was a big reveal from Bobby's book, because up until then, they neither confirmed nor denied that Kate did her own makeup. And in fact, now we know she did not. Correct. Hannah Martin did it. It's one of our more viral videos, actually. Yeah. But yeah, at the time, and this is just a sign of the time, she was like, well, it wasn't the thing to do to to announce that Bobby Brown was used for makeup. You know, it was that whole idea that you wanted to be subtle, not subtle. I guess. Yeah, you don't want to be discreet, discreet. You're you're respecting the privacy. Exactly. Exactly. So my times have changed. Absolutely. And now we know people's plastic surgeons names anyway. And what exact type of breast enhancement they had put in. I love when we do get to talk to real celebs on our show. And we had Lily Reinhart on. And if you guys are listening and you have not listened to that episode, I highly recommend that you do, because she really impressed me. I didn't really know that much about her before we researched her and talked to her. But by the way, her products, the personal day, it's her version of the road glazing milk. Right. I freaking love it. I almost finished it. Oh, nice. So because the road glazing milk for my skin, it's like a little too rich. OK. For the summer, I've been using the personal day one. And it's a squeeze. Yeah. So it's easier to put on. It's not like the dump in your hand. Yeah. You can squeeze it in control like the packaging is good. Does it have an exfoliation factor in it? No, it's just strictly hydration. I love the strictly hydration ones. You need to get your daughter on that one, actually. OK. Yeah, well, yeah. The whole thing with personal day, which is Lily Reinhart skincare line, is that number one, it cannot be irritating for acne. Yeah. So you are in the clear. And honestly, that is a relief when you do break out and somebody explicitly says you will be good. Yeah. And she works with germs and all that. But we needed to ask her about her makeup because she famously does her own makeup for a lot of occasions. In fact, she did a whole get ready with me video and did her own makeup for that BTS video. She was in like the K-pop band. Oh, yeah. She did her own makeup. Oh, cool. So when she was on our show, I said to her, I really like your eye makeup. And she was like, oh, it's it's makeup by Mario. And Mario and I said, oh, is it the ethereal palette? She's like, no, I can't wear any sparkles. It's the it's the matte. Yeah. So we now know that she legit wears these. And my I have the original right here, which is the Master Mattes Neutral palette. And then I also have the cool ones, which is very like 90s. Yeah. I love both of them. They're really soft, very blendable, not super pigmented. So they blend very, very well. Yeah. And for novices like myself, there's 12 shades in each. They're 56 U.S. dollars, 84 in Canada. And Lily said I developed a sensitivity to sparkles in the last few years. So this is one that I love. And can I just tell you that I have the cool one in my hotel room right now? OK, I brought it on this trip. So I actually use it, too. And I forgot to bring a brow product. So in a pinch, I used this gray on my brows today. OK, fantastic. So speaking of DIY, there is another celebrity who it's pretty well known is DIY on her hair color. And that's Pamela Anderson. Did you know that? I did know that I also made a video about that. OK, it went a bit viral. This was a few years ago. Yeah. I love that. I don't know if this was on purpose, but you picked all Canadian celebrities. Oh, that was not on purpose. But I am feeling proud. The month of July. Yeah. So Pamela Anderson's documentary came out in 2023. Pamela, A Love Story. I loved that one. That was a good one. It was so good. Yeah, I loved the relationship between her and her sons. Yes. Beautiful. I really had almost like an epiphany about her after I watched it, which is I really feel like she's the modern day Marilyn Monroe. In a way, this the like persona that she created for herself. She's a hippie at heart, though. But there's just so many parallels in terms of like her voice and how. Anyway, that's another story. But spotted in the documentary, very clearly, first of all, she talks about how her mom taught her how to dye her own hair. And so she always does it out of a box. And there's a very there's two scenes in the documentary that show her with hair color. And this is what makes it questionable to me on whether there was a paid product placement. So in the beginning of the documentary, she where she's talking about how she learned how to do it from her mom. She and her mom are in Vancouver. They're in the pickup truck and they stop at a. They go to a shoppers drug shoppers drug bar. Yeah. And she goes in. Which is like a CVS. And she reaches for a box of hair color. L'Oreal Preference. This is it here. It's the L'Oreal Preference. And she says something, something Scandinavian blonde. Right. Scandinavian blonde. Obviously, she has she's rocking this white blonde. And then she buys it and she leaves. OK, so I reach out to the PR and I'm like, oh, you know, can you confirm that it was this hair color in Scandinavian blonde? And they say, well, actually, we represent Garnier as well. And at the end of the documentary, you see the Garnier that she uses because she only uses vegan and cruelty free. So I watched the documentary till the end. And there's a very clear shot, not blurry like this one, where I had to put my detective hat on of the Garnier Nutrisse Ultracolor PL1, which the PR is able to. You know, they say this is most likely what she used. They don't say that she did or not. I see. And it's like it's such a perfect picture that I was like, that actually looks like a product placement. Yeah. So I went back to the PR and I said, can you confirm whether either of these were product placement, paid product placement or not? And they said, unfortunately, we can't because that would be the US PR that might know about that. I see. And so they could not confirm, but they did say Pamela Anderson only uses vegan and cruelty free products. OK, therefore it would have been the Garnier. So it's a bit of a question mark. So I went back and I said, well, isn't L'Oreal in fact cruelty free and vegan? And they said cruelty free, but not vegan. So I don't know, guys. One of them was clearly a constructed scene. And it could have been the L'Oreal preference because this happens when you're making documentaries, right? They're like the photographer, the videographer. They're like, OK, now we want you to talk about this. So go ahead and reach up and grab that and then just go and pay for it. And like, this is sort of the scene in the documentary where you're going to talk about hair color. And so does she actually use the L'Oreal like or does she use both? What I'm going to say is we need her on the show to confirm or deny. Absolutely. And she's been on a hair color journey. She went red last year. Yeah. So what is she using? Yeah, you know, they come talk to us. Yeah, she's a dream guest for me. Definitely putting this in the stars for the 100 percent. OK, well, you mentioned the Vogue videos that get get with me, get ready with me. I agree with you. I don't really use those as a direct source. However, the Vogue videos they do of what's in my bag, I think that those are more legit because they're more on the spot. And Bella Hadid actually did one of those. And she recommended the You Beauty. Now, this is definitely a brand that seeds celebrities a lot. It's called the You Beauty, the Super Hydrator Face Moisturizer. It's one hundred and sixty eight U.S. dollars. Two hundred and twenty nine in Canada. And she said in her Vogue in the bag video, she pulled this product out of her YSL bag and she said, if anybody wants like the perfect moisturizer for the morning, this makes your skin out of control. You don't even need to put makeup on after it. And then they have a similar product to this that Jennifer Aniston likes, the tinted version, which is like a no makeup makeup idea. Now, this product has shea butter in it, so I can't really use it as someone who has it right over here. Yeah, but You Beauty has tons of products that I've fallen in love with. That Bio Barrier Mist, love that. I also love the Plasma Lip Compound, even though it's so pricey. Yeah, it's very good. Oh, yeah. My friends ask me for that. Right. I would love to try the tinted version. I will. Yeah, I have that coming in and there's eleven shades of the tinted version. And to me, that tracks totally that Jennifer Aniston would be a fan of that product. So I wanted to shout them out because You Beauty is very interesting to me. A couple of months ago, Puck did a whole roundup of the top 10 products being bought right now in beauty, and they had at least two. That is wild. Yeah, it is. In skincare. They're not even in Sephora. Yeah. So their entire strategy is to stay out of Sephora. Yeah. So the other products in there were like In Beauty Project, the Extreme Cream, things we hear about a lot. The resurfacing compound was the one that I really like. That's better for like exfoliation. And the reality is that Tina Chen, she has insane skin. Yeah. She's walking the walk with her skincare. Yeah. All right. Well, our last ones of the hour. I don't have them here, but we were talking about Royals. Meghan Markle, if you follow everything that she does, ex-Royal, I guess you'd call it. You know that she had With Love Meghan. The. Certainly do. The show. Yeah, I know you were a big fan, Jill. It's my what did I call it? Not comfort viewing. Comfort creator, something like that. She was a comfort creator. Yeah. Anyway, as she was doing many things with her hands, apparently her nail color was getting a lot of attention. And so she took it upon herself to share with the good people what she was wearing on her nails, along with an affiliate link. And it is the CND Shellac in Satin Slippers and CND Shellac in Romantique. They were layered. And she posted this on her Instagram. A little tea. I knew that because I knew the girl who did her nails. But I was never able to say. But that is 100 percent true. So I'm going to finish off with what I like to call the Swiss Army knife of beauty products. This is the Elizabeth Arden 8 Hour Cream Skin Protectant. And we've had countless celebrities talk about how much they love this. Reese Witherspoon. Victoria Beckham is like one of the biggest proponents of this. Pat McGrath as well. Yeah. Makeup artist. Yeah. One is sold every 30 seconds around the world. And you can use it on cuticles. That's what I love to use it for. You can use it for a little glass skin glow, rough peels, put on your face. It is amazing. And it was created in 1930. Yeah. So almost 100 years of people loving this product. So standing the test of time. And nobody can forget in Prince Harry's memoir, Speaking of the Royals, he talked about how his mother loved this. Ah, that's how he knew about it. And he had to use this. Do you remember why? And from the book? No. He had to use this on a frostbitten nether region. No way. And he name checked it. Wow. So we know for sure that it is royal approved. Speaking of Harry and Meghan. Wow. And so this one is lightly scented to me. That is so iconic. I agree. I agree. And a little fun fact, Jill, that was one of the products that inspired Cassatt La Pomade. Oh, fantastic. My retinoid ointment. It was the time that I slugged with it. Yeah, I loved the results. And so that sent me down this whole road of the idea of slugging and slugging with active ingredients and barrier support. So I'm a huge fan of that product as well. Well, I think this was really fun. If you guys have any comments or if you have other celebrity approved products that you have in your routine that you love. I know we just touched the tip of the iceberg here. We didn't even really talk about Rihanna or fragrance and like all. There's so many celebs that are out there talking about what they love and less and less. Yes, absolutely. The more they own their own stuff. Why would they talk about anything else? Unless it is pay to play kind of thing. But they can always come on our show. Open invitation. Yeah. Talk about whatever you. Maybe we need to be like a Deux Moi, is that what it's called? Where if you see a picture of somebody spotted in the wild, send it to us and we'll do a little. Yeah. You know, we'll do a follow up. It's really fun. There's a couple of beauty journalists in the UK that do videos that are the hashtag unsponsored products spotted in the background of the Kardashian show. Oh, yeah. And that's always fascinating to me because sometimes they go to great lengths. They will. It's clearly L'Oreal Elnett, but they will tape it up. Yeah. They don't want to give anything away for free. Oh, yeah. Right. I was from our fashion magazine days. They used to always actually backstage. It was backstage when I'd be reporting at New York Fashion Week or Paris or what have you. And they were there courtesy of a brand. Usually it was NARS or Mac. Yeah. And then anything that was not that brand was black duct tape. Right. You know, they'd be using it, but it had to be taped. Yeah. Classic move. Well, we're going to link to everything we talked about on our website, which is breaking beauty podcast dot com. Don't forget, we also have a sub stack that we send out every single month with our monthly favorites. Please sign up for that. If you haven't yet, where we're always talking about stuff that we run out of time to talk about on the podcast. So see you next week.