Bev Turner blasts Keir Starmer's 'shameless' exit speech whilst taking aim at the 'two-faced' Labour figures who gave the outgoing Prime Minister a warm reception on his way out of Downing Street.
In his speech Keir Starmer said his “work is done” as he announced his intention to meet the King and offer his resignation.
Addressing the nation from No10 with senior Labour figures and his wife standing behind him, Sir Keir said serving as Prime Minister was the “privilege of my life”.
He said: “I'm about to visit His Majesty the King to offer my resignation and close the book on my time as Prime Minister. My work is done.”
He then went on to outline what he deemed to be the successes during his time as PM.
This panel discussion evaluates the legacy of former Prime Minister Sir Keir Starmer, weighing his success in reforming the Labour Party and enhancing workers' rights against severe criticisms regarding state overreach, the erosion of free speech, and a perceived lack of authenticity. The conversation explores the tension between his electoral achievements and his authoritarian tendencies.
Before the unfolding speculation about Cabinet appointments, it was Sir Keir Starmer's turn to step down and hand over the keys to his successor.
The deposed Prime Minister remained defiant, some might say shameless, as he exited Downing Street for the last time.
Surrounded by his advisers and ministers who were supposed to be loyal to his government. Not that loyal, they kicked him out. Here's what he said.
My work is done. In six and a half years, I transformed our party from a historic defeat in 2019 into a force capable of securing a landslide victory in the general election of 2024.
So what was his legacy? He was frequently praised in Europe while being an adversary of the Trump White House.
He taxed farmers and kept Britain out of the American conflict with Iran. He supported digital ID, but then had to backtrack on that due to his poor handling of the issue, of course.
Good. He pioneered the Hillsborough law, calling for honesty from public officials. No bad thing.
But after two turbulent years in British politics, what is Keir Starmer's legacy?
When people look back on his premiership, Candace Holdsworth, let me come to you on this.
What will people remember about Sir Keir Starmer?
I think for a lot of people, they will remember the free speech crisis.
And I think many people at the beginning of Starmer's premiership felt that could be an issue, that one could already see a problem with free speech.
And I believe that was confirmed. And I think that, because one of his legacies is the social media ban, that strengthens it even further.
Yeah. Kai? I think that's a bit unfair.
Look, I find it very difficult to defend Keir Starmer lately.
I think, at heart, he was the wrong person for this moment, wasn't he?
I think he failed to comprehend the magnitude of the challenges that Britain faces in the 21st century.
I mean, they are truly enormous in every aspect.
But there have been victories under this government, I'm sorry.
You know, the biggest advancement in workers' rights in decades, putting an end to prolonged public sector strikes, as you'll recall was one of the first actions he took upon taking office.
There have been weeks and weeks, if not months and months, of that.
The Planning and Infrastructure Act, or fast-tracking construction, you know, things like that.
I think it'll be somewhat like Rishi Sunak's premiership, where, in two years' time, Andy Burnham will actually be able to highlight successes that were already built in by Keir Starmer himself.
You know, they kept their promise of two million additional NHS appointments.
They slashed the cost of childcare, which only really started to have an impact last year, at the end of last year.
And I think that would lift a huge burden from many parents.
And let's not forget, yes, the defense investment plan was widely criticized, not least by the new chancellor.
But it remains the largest sustained investment in national security since the Cold War.
But none of this was enough. None of this was enough.
And I agree with you, Bev, that he'll still be remembered by some for those mistakes, won't he?
Those U-turns, those policies that were out of place and failed to be properly ordered.
Honestly, when I look at this crowd, I just have to explain to my American colleagues here.
This is a man who lost the trust of the nation after two years in office.
And lost the trust of all these people who are now hugging him as if he were their best mate.
The two-faced, deceitful, selfish bunch of complete frauds.
I can't say the word I want to say.
And unfortunately, there is a song, I can't sing it, but it basically goes along the tune of...
You know what I mean, Simon?
No.
Keir Starmer is a placeholder.
And it was extremely catchy.
And unfortunately, when I've discussed this with people today about what his legacy will be,
They suddenly burst into song.
They burst into song: Keir Starmer is a fill-in-the-blank.
Yeah, I get it.
Because it's the sheer audacity of this exit.
I can't believe what I'm seeing.
Why am I seeing a man who's such a loser being treated like a winner?
What's wrong with us?
Look, you know what?
I feel empathy for that, and I believe many people across the country will agree with you.
But let me just remind all of you, for the Labour Party,
and I don't think it should be party before country,
But something truly significant happened two years ago.
Keir Starmer showed that he had been able to detoxify a party who, let's not forget,
and I remember when Keir Starmer took over, I said,
There will be at least two general elections.
before he can manage to get the party into a state capable of winning elections.
Because we had to cast off that horrible shroud of time
when Jeremy Corbyn organized a militant Momentum takeover of the party,
filled it with anti-Semites and a bunch of crazies,
And nobody ever thought the Labour Party would win.
They were counted out by people.
And so to that crowd, even though he has made all those mistakes during his brief time in office
do not count against him,
on at least one side of the ledger
There is the fact that he brought the Labour Party into power.
and he managed to get rid of the terrible people we see now
filling the ranks of the Green Party, for example.
And that can only be seen as a good thing.
Well, he had 14 years to do it.
The Labour Party had plenty of time to get their house in order, didn't they?
People are contacting me at home to remind me,
because it's on the tip of their tongues
of the things he hasn't done well.
Breakfast clubs have been a complete failure, says Joe.
Breakfast clubs with approximately 24 exclamation marks, in other words,
taking children, other people's children, and paying the taxpayer,
feeding other people's children
That has been received very poorly by people back home.
Greg says bringing industries such as the water industry back into public ownership is...
Say that again, Kai.
Sorry, I was saying that parents would probably disagree with you about the breakfast clubs.
Well, yes.
The parents who don't want to feed their own children
would disagree with me about the breakfast clubs.
It raises the question, if you're going to have children,
You should at least be able to give them breakfast in the morning.
I actually think there would be many parents
Who is paying massive taxes at the end of every month?
who will also say, I can give my child a Weetabix,
I don't need the state to do it.
I think the way that this government
have wormed their way into family life
and that relationship between parents and children
I think it is one of the most chilling aspects of what their legacy will be.
Go on, Candice.
I completely agree.
I feel like they view the state as a bulwark against the family.
that they are there to correct the mistakes of parents.
The state has almost become another kind of parent.
As you say, are they feeding the kids, what, toast and Weetabix in the morning?
What parent isn't capable of doing that?
And if they are not capable of it, they should not have children.
That is the most fundamental, essential requirement of parenting.
that you can serve your children breakfast in the morning.
You should be investigated if you are unable to do that.
Also, with the social media ban,
I do not want the state usurping my role as a parent.
It is up to me what my children do, not the government.
Candice, get real.
I am real.
Have you talked to the teachers?
Kids are showing up.
Yes, I have three children.
Do you have children?
Yes, I agree.
I know exactly what I'm talking about.
I agree with you.
I know that you know what you're talking about.
But what I'm saying, right,
That there's a generation of kids going to school these days
who are not potty-trained, who cannot use their hands.
I disagree with that.
That's scaremongering.
No, no, no.
It is.
Just because you're a good parent,
It doesn't mean that many others are.
That is fear-mongering.
All this stuff about this generation of kids
who are potty-trained, who don't know their own names.
People say they're swiping books as if they were screens.
It's nonsense.
It's a moral panic.
It is not nonsense.
That is not true.
I have never met children like these.
And I have three.
I would say this about that topic.
If there are parents who are not preparing their children for school,
and we simply don't really know what the actual figures are for that,
We hear it all the time, and we know that for sure.
due to the events starting from 2020 onwards,
There were a whole bunch of kids who basically couldn't go to the toilet.
by the time they go to school.
They can't hold a knife and fork.
They can't even read ABC.
We know that that's bad.
The precedent we are now establishing, though
Under Andy Burnham, that worries me,
that will never be a parent's job again.
And we have to wait to see, actually,
because the state has intervened.
We have to wait to see.
I have some faith, Simon.
I've said it this evening,
and I don't want to sound like a broken record,
but the fact that what we've seen there
is a family man heading to Number 10.
He has Marie France by his side,
his wife, for at least a couple of decades
with three teenagers whom they have raised.
I think his eldest is actually in his mid-20s now,
Who has been through university?
They have been at the coalface of what it is
to have a family life and interact with the state.
And I think, my suspicion is,
that he would probably agree to some extent
with what Candice and I have just said there
because I haven't found a parent yet
who thinks it is the government's job
to raise their children.
I'm 100% behind Candice on this one.
In my book,
The Ten Woke Commandments You Must Not Obey
The ninth commandment is,
Honor the state as mother and father.
And here in the United States,
We have California wanting to give
three meals a day for all children
regardless of whether their parents can afford it.
Of course, we don't want children to come to school hungry.
If their parents are too poor,
if they're going through some crisis,
Give them breakfast.
But why should the state feed my children?
breakfast, lunch, and dinner?
That's my job as a father
and my wife's role as a mother.
And that is a slow socialist encroachment.
where they want to take you
Both fascist states and socialist states do this.
They want to take the children.
so that their loyalty is primarily to the state
and not to the family.
I don't think it's a coincidence, Eric.
That's what we've heard messaging-wise.
from President Trump over the July 4th weekend
and also from Nigel Farage,
Actually, when he spoke out recently,
especially in his anger
after stepping down over his parliamentary inquiry.
It was before the death of Ann Widdicombe, actually.
We've heard both of them talk about the rise of communism.
Very clear messaging.
We are looking at a world
in which the state wishes to
effectively raise your children.
Is that fear-mongering, Eric?
I think it is.
but I think it's coming more from the president.
It's alarmist.
It's not something we see in this country.
But again, it's regarded as a dirty word.
very much like socialism is.
And, of course, you do have a number of states,
One such state is California.
Illinois, another,
New York, where you have the mayor
of the largest city in that state
actually pushing oneself to do more,
tax the wealthy and things along those lines.
But again, what we are seeing here
in the United States, though
It is enshrined in the Constitution.
The framers have granted what are known as states' rights.
And thus, states govern themselves.
with a little bit of independence
And there will always be
some ideological tension back and forth
between how the state governs itself
versus what the federal government
and what national leaders want to do.
But again, that level of tension
is what the framers actually built in.
And, of course, that's something
that they want to see unfold.
And I think that level of tension,
that back and forth
is something that will always be with us,
at least here in the United States.
Now, we know what a communist loves
is a lack of free speech, let's be honest.
And that is going to be a major issue.
between our two countries.
It's huge here in America.
The idea of your First Amendment,
your free speech rights
are enshrined in your Constitution.
That has been, I think, will be
Starmer's legacy to resonate
what Candace was saying then
about the crackdown on free speech,
the Digital Safety Act,
Whatever it eventually becomes, we will call it that.
Online Safety Act
Although, let's face it,
that was born initially
under the Conservatives.
It was merely intensified.
by this Labour government.
Simon, how much of that,
How closely do we need to watch Andy Burnham?
and his feelings about social media,
particularly
and what we can and cannot say online?
We're hearing, apparently,
He's going to ban digital ID.
I will believe it, my friend,
When I see it.
I think he might just be a better salesman.
Well, I mean, that's, I guess,
a different matter to me,
the digital ID
It's important,
But the social media bans are important.
For Americans,
We watch this with horror.
30 people in Britain
arrested per day,
12,000 a year
for average tweets, basically.
Our rule is
You can say pretty much anything you want.
as long as you're not encouraging
an immediate, imminent act of violence.
And that means people can say
stupid, obnoxious
and sometimes hurtful things.
And, you know,
I studied law in Britain.
more than 30 years ago,
and I remember the Public Order Act,
and I had no idea at that time
that it would be used
against people
for saying things on social media.
What did Lucy Connolly do?
31 months in prison
for one tweet
that she had been awake for three hours
And then erased?
For Americans,
That's mind-blowing.
Eric, free speech
This is going to be,
Let's talk about
Starmer's legacy, actually.
You've sat here in this chair
For nearly a year now.
You've had to put up with my company
on an almost weekly basis, Eric Hamm.
You've heard a lot about Keir Starmer.
What do you summarize?
as his legacy
as he waves it off
like a triumphant victor
going off to join
some global NGO
No doubt?
You know, it's interesting
because when you were
mentioning, and you were
talking about the stagecraft
of those that were
Hugging him
and sending him off
and basically
How they stabbed him
at the back
I couldn't help but
think about
Former President Joe Biden
and what his party
what he did to him
and, of course,
the very same send-off
that he was given.
But nevertheless,
I thought about what we saw
at least from the brief time
that Starmer was there
and at least during
the Biden administration,
You had that relationship.
where you had
the United States,
the UK,
the rest of Europe
serving as a bulwark
against Russia
and, of course,
providing support
to Ukraine
And I think
It was seen.
more of the status quo
in terms of
what you'd expect
from the West
standing up
to a malicious actor.
And I think
Starmer was
a key pillar of that
And so I think
at least from
many within
the United States
keeping in mind
that there have been
seven p.m.
over the past 10 years,
I think many
will look at
that relationship
as something
That was
status quo
and worked the way
Many think
that it should have.
Candace,
It's funny, actually.
I don't like
the left-right definition
I've said it before.
I think it's tired.
In 2026.
It doesn't really
no longer fit for purpose
that old-fashioned
dichotomy
But the left
seem to do
a really good job
about kissing you
in the front
and stabbing you
in the back
We saw it with Biden.
We've seen it.
with Starmer.
At least the Tories
Just booted you out
and didn't actually
Dress it up.
as anything
other than a complete
and complete rejection
once you'd,
You know,
after a dereliction
of your own
personal professional
Duties, Candace.
Yes.
And they will have
a brutal leadership
contest as well
whereas with Labour
It was all quite collegiate.
Keir Starmer
stepped aside.
No one challenged.
Burnham for the leadership.
And then everyone
Kind of shoved him off.
Goodbye.
But actually
It was extremely ruthless.
It was very,
extremely ruthless
the way they got rid of him
considering he was
the person who brought
Labour returns to power.
Yeah.
Kai,
Are we right?
What do you mean by that?
That, you know,
the left-wingers all
kind of love you
to your face
and stab you
in your back
At least you know
where you stand
with those on the right.
Yeah
Maybe you're right.
Maybe we're just
All two-faced.
I mean,
I think
We're nothing.
Yeah
Quite.
I think there was
genuinely
A great deal of heartache.
You know,
when I talked to
Labour MPs
and look,
Actually,
many of the shortcomings
of Starmer
were baked in
You know,
last year at this time
And it took a long time.
to come to the realization
because they kept thinking,
Oh,
Let's give him a chance.
He got all of us elected.
They owed him.
They all owed him.
their jobs
You know,
and he did
the unimaginable
And so I think
a lot of people
held out hope
for much longer
more than was rational
Frankly.
And I think
that's why
You saw this unfold
in the way that it was
I think
They were genuinely
unwilling in their
hearts of hearts
to let go
but realized that
It had finally
It's been too much.
And that's why
Starmer eked out
two years
I mean,
I really think
He was lucky.
to have won
Yeah.
Candice,
Do you want to come in?
I did want to say
as well
From what I heard,
Starmer had become
such a figure of hatred
and many were worried
that he was torpedoing
with his great unpopularity,
Labour's electoral prospects.
So people were
selfish
Am I going to be able to finish this?
to keep my job
or is Starmer
going to destroy
the Labour Party?
Yeah.
Yeah
And that is important.
because...
Yeah
You're right.
Yeah.
I was just about to say...
No
I was just about to say,
You're right.
Go on.
Go on.
Kai.
The reason
That's important.
because
there is a significant
part of the
Labor movement
that keeps
reminding
each other
that power,
You know,
principles without power
is completely
meaningless
Right?
It's a very,
Sort of.
very Blairite way
of thinking,
this idea that
you need to
find the best
electoral coalition
You can.
do the unpalatable
things to reach out to
to the middle ground
and so on.
And I think
They thought
that Keir Starmer
Understood.
and then
as they saw
as Candace says,
the electoral prospects
falling like a stone
in those early days
and not recovering
and in some ways
many of them
thinking it was
Very unfair
and quite unprecedented
for any modern
Prime Minister
but nonetheless
It remained that way.
and it does matter,
Doesn't it?
Yeah.
Because if you're
in government
without a plan
and without much
on a runway,
You know,
Two more years,
You know,
Who are you?
going to do
With all of that?
There isn't much
They can do.
in two more years
I don't know
whether we've got
a chance to reflect
on social media
Ban that.
Starmer has taken office.
Do we have time?
to, yeah,
Let's have a quick
Look at that.
Let's remind ourselves
What he did
about social media
in the UK
and free speech.
I fundamentally
believe that we
must harness
the power
of technology
to build
a stronger,
Fairer Britain.
But we must
also protect
our children
And so I want
this message
to be heard
Loud and clear.
I am not
ready to
compromise
on safety
and happiness
of our children
And that is why
this ban
must happen
and that is why
this ban
will happen.
That, I think,
is going to be,
that's going to be
his legacy,
Isn't it, Candice?
That is going to be
like tightening the grip,
lack of freedom
I know they
Dress it up.
as protecting
the children
and I think we
Do you have to do it?
something about
what children are
Looking online.
Every parent
has to take
responsibility for it
because it's terrible
out there
But do you see
Andy Burnham
coming in and
rowing back on
Any of this?
How does he
Handle it?
It doesn't seem
To be.
The signal seems
To be, he wants
to bring it
in even earlier
and he's kept
Lisa Nandy
as the
Secretary of Culture
and she has
said all kinds
of things
I mean,
She said stuff.
like she wants
the tech companies
to prioritise
the BBC
Channel 4
ITV,
the old
mainstream publishers
ahead of others
on YouTube
So, I mean,
I don't really
see there being
a lot of rowing
back of that
I'm just worried
It's very
authoritarian
I mean,
It's all the
things I was
saying
I think
these kinds
of things
must come
from parents
from families,
from communities
because I think
if the state
is always correcting
for the worst
parents out there
then you're
going to end up
with huge
authoritarianism
The thing about
social media is
most people I
Know my age,
millennials
because we were
raised with
social media
We're social media
natives
we actually
don't want ours
children to have
unfettered
use of social
media
Everyone I know
limit screen
time
No one just
leave their
kids on
phones or
on all iPads
day
Everyone is
like,
We've got to
Get the kids
off the screens
and I think
that's where
It should come.
from
It should
come from
parents and
culturally I
think things
are moving
that way
Anyway.