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I think you really don't like him. You know, that is absolutely true. Not only do I not like him, I don't like him because of what he's doing to the United States and the world. And I think you should take a hard look at it if you think that there is something good that will come out of it. There is male and female, and the rest probably is a social construct. So this is something that went too far. But does that justify selling out the people of Ukraine who are on the front lines dying to save their freedom and their two genders? If that's what you're worried about? Can I please finish my points? It makes you nervous. I'm really sorry for that. It makes me nervous. It makes me... No, no, no. But seriously, can we let Peter finish, please? I think that the Trump administration's position toward Ukraine is disgraceful. I think the effort to force Ukraine into a surrender deal with Putin is shameful. I think the effort that Putin and Trump are making to profit off the misery and death of the Ukrainian people is a historic error and corrupt to the nth degree. So I believe Ukraine is fighting for our democracy and our values of freedom and civilization on the front lines, losing thousands of people and having their country destroyed by one man's mania to control them. And I think Trump either doesn't understand or could care less about that suffering. So that's what I think. And so do you think he has destroyed the West, to go to our title? He has betrayed the West. He's betrayed human values. He's betrayed the NATO Charter, the Atlantic Charter, the Universal Declaration of Human Rights. A lot of what has been done before to try to make sense of how difficult it is to restrain people who want unaccountable power. And none of us in this room, including all of us on this panel, would choose to live under a regime that was so unaccountable that it could act with impunity the way that Putin does. Except that's who Trump is modeling himself as. I don't think we would be having this debate under that kind of regime, for sure. We will come back, I suspect, to the conservatism and liberalism clash within the West, but thank you for that. Peter, do you agree that the Trump administration's actions on Ukraine have produced a rift in the West? Well, first, I think you really don't like him. You know, that is absolutely true. But I really, not only do I not like him, I don't like him because of what he's doing to the United States and the world. And I think you should take a hard look at it if you think that there is something good that will come out of it. What I think Trump is doing in America, I think it is reaction. Reaction. Reaction for some policies that really went too far. Too far from the regular people. Like what? Give us some examples. Too far from reality. So, you know, we saw the cancel culture. We saw the woke revolution. I don't agree with the gender revolution, the climate alarmism. Which gender? Women having their rights? No, let Peter go on. I think there are two genders. How about half of us? Can we have our rights? Some of us think that there is more than one or more than two, sorry, more than two gender. I think there is male and female and the rest probably is a social construct. So this is something that went too far. But does that justify selling out the people of Ukraine who are on the front lines dying to save their freedom and their two genders? If that is what you are worried about? Can I please finish my points? I am sorry that it makes you nervous. I am really sorry for that. Don't make me nervous. It makes me very happy. No, no, no, but seriously, can we let Peter finish, please? Can we let Peter finish, please? I have to say one more thing. You said that Ukraine fights for our future and for our freedom. I think first Ukraine fights for Ukraine's future, Ukraine's freedom, Ukraine's sovereignty and independence. So we should help them, of course. But what I see in some people in the West, they are trying to misuse the Ukraine. But that is another question. I don't know if Trump's administration is helping the Ukraine to stop the war. I believe that there is such an approach. I don't see any other strong player, strong geopolitical player who would be able to force Russia to stop killing the Ukrainian people and stop destroying their country. I don't see maybe China, but China makes nothing. I don't know if Trump is forcing Russia in the way that they will stop the war. I don't know. I only see that the only Americans right at the moment can make it. Do you think Europe could put more pressure on Russia, for example, by putting pressure on Turkey, by targeting the refineries of oil more and so on? I think Europe also makes some pressure. We release sanctions. We do what we can. But I think the Russians, they probably don't care. When I visited Ukraine, I saw really the goodwill of all people in Ukraine. They were really united, united and willing to stop the war. But they keep inviting. They also made some steps that probably a year ago no one from them would allow to say or even suggest. Now they are ready to make some steps back. Now it's all on the Russian side, but I don't see any goodwill on their side. Indeed, we probably are agreed on that point. Peter, will you forgive me? I want to come on to Ivan, who's been writing and looking at this for a long time from Sofia and other places. Listen, there are two conversations and I want to make two points. One is, if we really believe that it's about conservative versus liberal, then conservatism is very much about sovereignty and the national community. The way the American administration now defines the freedom of speech is basically the right of the American technological companies. If you're conservative and if you're a nationalist, you're not going to allow this. And there is a major clash of values. Listen, probably the business interest of some of the companies is to undress people with artificial intelligence. If you're basically going part of the community, are you going to allow this? And I'm saying this because this is part of the tensions that now we have between Europe and the United States. It is easy to be a nationalist. The problem is that the moment you start to be highly nationalistic, you are triggering the nationalism of others. And this was, by the way, very clearly seen when some of the far-right parties in Europe very strongly opposed President Trump on Greenland. Because for them, land is not a real estate. And I'm saying this because in this conservative position, there is a major contradiction. And the second problem, which I found really important on this, is I have a... Listen, I believe in the intentions of the American president to try to stop killing. This is novel. There are more than 1.5 million people being killed or wounded. The problem is that you cannot solve this totally bracketing the question. Is there a moral responsibility? Are they equally important? I remember there was this famous anecdote when the Versailles Treaty was signed. One of the members of the German delegation went to the French prime minister and said, Mr. Prime Minister, in 100 years, probably people are going to have a different view of who is responsible for this war. And then the French prime minister said, for sure. But nobody is going to claim that it was Belgium that invaded Germany. And I'm saying this because, in my view, it's very important what we define as peace. And it's not only about security guarantees. You cannot have peace if you're destroying the moral integrity of a nation. Okay, so let me... Ivan, thank you very much. And you also brought us into one of the other points of disagreement between the U.S. and Europe, which is over the definition of freedom of speech or the understanding of that.