Watch the FULL Lance Twiggs Video Played in Court

Let's check in with what's happening in the court, because Agent Davis just took the stand, and this is who they're going to get the video in through. So let's listen and see if they're doing it. Finally. This meeting is to use your statement here instead of your testimony at a preliminary hearing. Understand that? Here we go. In order to do that, I need to place you under oath and also give you an admonition about false statements, okay? First, you do solemnly swear or affirm that the evidence you shall give in this issue shall be the truth, the whole truth, and nothing but the truth. So help you God? Yes. I also need to notify you that you are notified the statements you are about to make may be presented to a magistrate or a judge in lieu of your sworn testimony at a preliminary examination. Any false statement you make and that you do not believe to be true may subject you to criminal punishment as a Class A misdemeanor. Understand that? Yes. That potentially could be used for punishment as a higher offense as obstruction of justice. In addition, I just want to make sure that our recording here is clear that you've also been given a federal agreement and a state agreement granting you immunity from prosecution for materials that you discuss now. Do you understand that? First, we're going to cover some of the things that you've already talked about, but to make it as part of this record. First, what's your name? Full name with middle name or just first and last? First and last is fine. Okay. My name is Lance Twiggs. And do you know Tyler Robinson? Yes, I do. And this is the same Tyler Robinson that's been charged with the shooting of Charlie Kirk. Yes. And would you say when you first met Tyler? I think it was 2023. I've known him longer than that, though. That was, I think, the first time I met him in person. Okay. And we described your relationship with Tyler when you first met him anyway. When I first met him, I didn't know him super well. He was just a new roommate. So I knew he knew my friend group and I knew he liked playing games, but that's about it when we first, like when he first moved in. Okay. Before we go on, I realized my mic was muted at the outset. Was your mic on? Okay. I'm going to repeat those admonitions just to make sure we've got it recorded. Okay. So again, I placed you under oath. Just to make a record, I'm going to do it again. You do solemnly swear that the evidence you shall give in this issue shall be the truth, the whole truth, and nothing but the truth, so help you God. Yes. And again, I'm going to give you the false statement. Sorry. Hold on. I think they're saying that it's echoing. So I think this one's mic is on. Okay. Sorry. That's fine. Okay. Okay. So we should be good. All right. Is that mic on? Yes. Okay. Great. All right. Okay. Sorry about that interruption. All right. So you said when you first met Matt, you were roommates? Yeah. Okay. And then at some point, your relationship progressed to something more than just roommates, is that right? When was that? I think we started dating two or three months after he moved in. Okay. And where did you live at that time? St. George in an apartment complex. And is that apartment the same place you lived on September 10th? Yes. When you lived there with Tyler, were you in the same room? Did you live in the same room or different rooms? Separate rooms. And at that time, let's say September of 2025, what were you doing with your life? Were you working, school? I was working. I was doing bathtub and shower repair and stuff and new construction. Okay. How about Tyler? I think he was both working. I think he was working for an electrician company then, and he was also in a trade school for being a, I don't know, higher-ranking electrician. I'm not sure how the trade system works for that. Okay. But I think he was both. What was his typical workday like? I think he'd leave around seven, generally, and get back around three to four, depending on where the job was and how long it was for the day. And then on certain days of the week during school, like semesters, he would then later in the day, I think around five or six, go to school. Okay. Let's jump to September 10th. Did he spend the night in the apartment the night of September 9th into September 10th? Yeah, he did. Yes. Do you know when he left the apartment on September 10th? I don't know an exact time. I just know he left early. I heard him leaving and he just said he had a long drive to work that day, so he was leaving early. Okay, so early. Any guess as to when that was? I don't know. I would have thought it was 5 a.m. because that's when an early workday was for him, but it was probably more like four. Okay. I'm going to have him spit out his gum just to make sure. I can do that. Right in front of your laptop. Here you go. Thank you. Thank you. All right. So what time did you get up on September 10th? Probably like 12 to 1 p.m. You didn't have to work that day? No. And did you hear from Tyler? Did he call or text you before then? No, he sent that message in the group chat I mentioned, but he didn't message me directly at all that day. Okay. When did you first hear from him on September 10th? It was at 11 o'clock with that automated message. Okay, 11 p.m. Yeah. What about... He asks you here, remember how I was engraving bullets? Was he engraving bullets before this? Yeah, I don't remember exactly when, but he had said he was planning to go hunting with his family. And he asked me if we had a Dremel because he said he wanted to create messages on bullets. And I just told him where Dremel was and I told him to make sure he doesn't set off a bullet on accident in the house. But I didn't really think about it until then. How long before September 10th was this that he asked about the Dremel? I don't remember because he'd been talking about the hunting slash camping trip for a couple months, but I don't remember when he was specifically asking to engrave the bullets. So, are we talking like a year before? Oh, no, not that long. It would have been, I'd say at most a month before this was when he was asking. Okay. Right. You talked about the note that he left. I want to bring this up and I should say that these text messages that we've been looking at here are base number 54. Okay. The notes have been titled 16.3, the note, and this is base number 58. Do you recognize that on the screen there? Yeah. Yeah. What do you recognize it as? That was the note under his keyboard that he was referring to in the first text of that chain. So, where did you find this? On his desk underneath his computer keyboard. And I assume you read it? Yeah. And then what did you do with it after you read it? I believe I just put it back down on the desk after I took a picture of it. Okay. And again, the time you read it was probably around 11 o'clock or so on the 10th? Yes. The night of September 10th. All right. And did you ever see that again after you placed it back on his desk? No, I don't think I did. And that was a desk in his bedroom? Yes. And that's a separate bedroom than your bedroom? Yeah. And now I want to go to what's been titled 16.2. And do you recognize this series of messages here? Yeah. That was the server of his friend that I was mentioning. Okay. And this is your phone again? Yeah. And I'm assuming you recognize it because the big crack up at the top. And so this is a server. Is this Discord? Yeah, this is Discord. And who are members of this server? I don't want names, just generally. Who are these people? This is his friend group. They play D&D together every week. Okay. And I just want to scroll through this to make sure that you get a chance to take a look at it and go to the next page. Yes. So Tyler Icum, who's that? That's Tyler Robinson. These other people are just others that are members of the server? Yes. Jug, Barnaby, Marina, DM. Yes. Yeah. DM means Dungeon Master. Most of them are names they're using in the game they're playing currently. Got it. Yeah. It looks like the last text from Tyler, it looks like it's 8 p.m. And do you know what day this would have been? 8 p.m. on the 10th or the 11th? I would think that would be the 11th. At least I think so because I don't think on the 10th that he messaged anyone before me at like 11. And he turned himself in on the 11th, right? I thought so, yeah. So again, we're just going to go through this so that we have a record of the messages. Is that an accurate recording of that thread? To my knowledge, yes. And that looks like between September 10th and September 12th. Looks like the last day on this is September 12th. Screen? Yes. Okay. All right. So again, those messages covered from September 10th to the evening of September 11th. Now September 11th, what time did or did you see Heileber on September 11th? Yes. When did you first see him on September 11th? So this is the day after the shooting? Yeah. I saw him when I woke up. Like I said, he was up and around doing a lot of stuff around the house. And then I think I saw him after that message where I said I'll come home and say I'm doing laundry because I didn't want him going to my parents' house right then when he said there was probably cops outside. So I went back home and it was just him there and I said bye to him and then he drove off. So I just went back to my parents' house. So he acted erratically. Was he pacing? Was he just sitting down relaxing? No, he was walking around a lot. And that's within the home? And did he talk about what he had done? I didn't go into detail. I just asked him in person if what he said was true the night before and he said it was. I started crying a little bit and said he wishes he hadn't done it and then kept going around and just doing stuff I think to keep himself busy or distracted or something. Did he talk about what he was going to do next? And then eventually said that he would talk to his parents or turn himself over. And when you left, was that how you left? Understanding that he was going to turn himself in or go to his parents' house? Yeah, and I didn't really want to be at our apartment while any of that was happening regardless of what went down. Before he came home, had you seen the press releases, any of the media on this? I'd seen one Instagram link a friend of mine had sent in our group chat, but I hadn't really looked into it at all. And had you seen the images that were released of the suspect? I did the next day. I don't think I saw any on the 10th. I'm going to show you a couple of those images. I'm on the FBI's website. You can see the URL there at the top. This is a press release about this event. And here on the screen, you see there's looks like there's two rows of three images. Do you recognize the person in these images? I wouldn't say with 100% certainty just because of camera quality, but that looks like him in terms of the shoes he's wearing, the sunglasses. I don't think I'd specifically seen him wearing that hat, but he was usually wearing a hat and then jeans. So it definitely, especially the bottom, the last two definitely do look like him. Oh, they do look like Tyler Robinson. And you talked about that with your friends, right? His friends, yeah. I don't know if I talked. I don't remember if I talked about it with any of my friends. And then since I didn't have my phone after that for a while and I still am not using social media, I don't know on my friend's end. Okay. All right. I want to back up a little bit now. We've talked about September 10th, but let me get a little bit of context here. So did you game with Tyler? Yeah. What kind of games? We played some just kind of party games together, like stuff, anything that would be multiplayer with a group of friends. There was one game he really liked called Sea of Thieves where he plays like a pirate and you can fight against people, but most of it's just like fishing, fighting sharks, skeletons kind of stuff. We played some co-op games where it's like you both have to work together to win in whatever way. Way back when, like when I was just out of high school, when I first knew him online, we played some like shooting games together, but I didn't know him very well. So that was just when we had like a whole friend group on to play and he was someone that my friends invited. Okay. Did you and he ever talk about politics? He did more than me. I didn't really, still don't really keep up with politics very much. He'd usually talk about stuff he heard on the radio, on his drive to work in like their work car, since it sounds like their whole crew went in the same car most of the time. But I wouldn't say super consistently, so it wasn't a topic I really contributed much on. How about Charlie Kirk? Did he ever talk about Charlie Kirk? I personally had never heard him talk about Charlie Kirk before specifically. Okay. How about political issues? So did you ever talk about gender identity issues and LGBTQ rights? No, not really. Usually if he did talk about politics stuff, it was relating to Trump or current policies being issued or voted on, I think. Okay, so before that you have been? For a short time, yes. And I understand you're going by Luna at some point? To some people, yeah, but not as an overall thing. Okay, I think that's all the questions I have for this portion. Let me check and see if I've missed anything. The Dremel that you talked about, you said he had asked for that, is that right? And had he told you it was to inscribe bullets? Yeah. And so did you have a Dremel then? Yeah. Okay. Okay, and did you give that to him or tell him where it was? I just told him where it was, yeah. Okay, I'm gonna go ahead and end the recording for the 1102 purposes. Megan, M-E-G-Y-N at megankelly.com, or just leave a comment below. But join the community by becoming a subscriber. We really, really value your input and your support. We may not always agree, but we are always gonna talk about it and respect. No BS, no agenda, no fear. Think about this. In 2006, $20,000 equaled roughly 33 ounces of gold at spot price. At today's prices, those 33 ounces would be worth about $165,000. That's why many smart Americans diversify a portion of their savings into precious metals. And that's why you should consider buying gold from Birch Gold Group. For thousands of years, gold has been a store of wealth. 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