Debunking the Evil Candace Owens Is Spreading

The preliminary hearings in the Charlie Kirk assassination case are now underway. All evidence clearly points to trans-loving gay man Tyler Robinson, the DNA, the texts, the confession, the rifle, but that's not actually the big story today. The big story is that for the last 10 months or so, Candace Owens and her fellow travelers have been claiming not only that Tyler Robinson is innocent, but that the people closest to Charlie, including his friends, his colleagues at Turning Point, and of course, his widow, were either responsible for his murder or the coverup of that murder. This is evil. It's disgusting, clearly. Today, we're going to go through and debunk Candace's twisted bullshit and examine the effects of that evil. And we'll talk about what it means for the broader public that such conspiratorial garbage has found significant purchase on the right. So, I've been pointing this out consistently for, at this point, almost a year. What we've been watching since Charlie Kirk's murder on September 10th, 2025, is one of the sickest and most perverse and most evil political character assassinations of all time. It's actually unprecedented. A prominent political figure is murdered, and an attention-seeking sociopath named Candace Owens makes it her singular mission to implicate the widow and the people closest to the victim in the murder, and in the process, activates thousands, perhaps millions of people to target the widow. Now, obviously, obviously, this is wicked. Not just because Candace Owens and her sick followers are providing the basis for a Tyler Robinson reasonable doubt claim that probably won't work, because there is no reasonable doubt here. It's actually disgusting because Candace's goal here is simple. Generate hate, maybe even violence, against Erica Kirk, TV USA, and all her political opponents. It's not about the facts, for Candace. It's never been about the facts or the truth. It's about generating fake smoke so that people will think there is a fire, and so that people then train their fire on people Candace Owens despises. There's an enormous amount to this story. I want to get to all of it. Now, again, the reason this is all coming up is because this week is the preliminary hearing in the prosecution of Tyler Robinson, the actual assassin of Charlie Kirk. So in Utah, the way that it works is that people charged with felonies are entitled to a preliminary hearing before the trial. The goal in these hearings is to show a neutral judge and arbiter that there's probable cause and evidence sufficient for conviction before you start in on the trial, because if there's not, then the whole thing should be dismissed. So what we're watching right now unfold is not a beyond a reasonable doubt trial with the jury and everything else. It's a sort of rough preview. The judge is just supposed to determine if there's enough here to make a case, which, of course, there is. So on the first day of the hearing, which happened yesterday, there were only a couple of witnesses because the defense kept objecting on the basis of hearsay, and the judge kept overruling those objections. Erica Kirk was present. So was the rest of Charlie's family. So were top TV USA members. Donald Trump Jr. was there as well. The two witnesses who were called were Officer Christopher Bagley of the Utah Valley University PD. He testified that he heard the shot that killed Charlie and knew it was a rifle and described the situation, which sounded like a shooter prone on the roof, which is, of course, what it was. FBI agent David Hull then presented law enforcement video evidence, as well as the autopsy report. The autopsy report showed that Charlie was killed by a bullet to the neck. Of course, not some sort of magical exploding microphone, as Candace Owens and others have suggested. Here is the judge who was shown the footage of Charlie getting shot. You can see the judge, whose name is Graf, flinching at the footage. So you can see you can see him flinch when this happens. It is obviously incredibly disturbing footage. We never showed it on the show for a reason, because watching a man, particularly somebody you're friendly with, get murdered on camera is about as horrifying as it gets. Well, this whole week, we'll be seeing the unveiling of available evidence and we'll continue to bring you the updates. We're going to bring you actual facts like things that happen, not personality driven drama or psychotic conspiracism. We're going to spend some time debunking conspiracies because a lot of people are being sucked into this trash. But truth actually matters and we care about the truth. So we'll continue to tell it. So let's begin at the beginning. The prosecution is as clear as day. It is obvious that Tyler Robinson did this, and it's also obvious why. So let's go back through the timeline briefly as a review. So back in April 2025, Charlie tweeted out that assassination culture was spreading on the left, which, of course, is true. In August 2025, there was a Change.org petition that started circulating to prevent Charlie Crook from speaking at Utah Valley University. Now, again, these sorts of Change.org petitions have come up regularly whenever people like Charlie or I or anyone else speaks on a college campus and happens to be conservative. Less than a week after Charlie died, by the way, there was another petition put up on Change.org that had 16,000 plus signatures suggesting that they shouldn't allow a memorial for Charlie at UVU. September 3rd, 2025, UVU issued a statement reaffirming their commitment to free speech in the event went forward. OK, so now the day of the event, September 10th, 2025. Here is the brief timeline. So 829 a.m., Tyler Robinson arrived at UVU in a gray Dodge Challenger. This was captured on surveillance. And as we are going to see throughout this week, basically all of Robinson's movements from the time he arrived until after the assassination were captured on tape. So all the conspiracy theorizing is just nonsense. And it always was 1152 a.m. Robinson moved through stairwells to the rooftop at 150 yards from the event. Courtyard is wearing dark clothing. Charging documents noted that Robinson was walking with an unusual gait, meaning that he was not bending his right leg. And that's because there was a rifle allegedly hidden in his pants. And here you can see footage of Robinson limping toward the UVU campus is before the shooting. You see him walking down the street toward the UVU campus. And again, you can see that he is not fully bending his right leg because there's something down his right leg, namely a gun. And that is why he is walking strangely. OK, at noon, Charlie began the event in the courtyard is the famous tape of Charlie throwing out the hats, big crowd, several thousand people showing up cheering at 1223. Charlie gets shot in the neck and he was carried to an SUV and driven to the Timpanogos Regional Hospital. And Robinson was then seen fleeing off the roof into the woods. And there's tape that shows him climbing down from the roof. Twelve thirty nine p.m. FBI agents arrived at UVU and videos began to appear on social media of Charlie being assassinated. And I remember where I was at the time when all of this was happening. And here you can see the video. This is the footage of Robinson climbing down off the roof. That is what's happening right afterward. You see the figure wearing the same clothing, running to the corner of the roof and then essentially lowering himself down and dropping off the corner of the roof. So, again, this is pretty unambiguous stuff. So I remember where I was when all this was happening. I was in Los Angeles. I had sort of a breakfast slash lunch meeting with somebody. And my I got the news that Charlie had been shot and my security was on the phone. Charlie's security because nobody knew what the hell was going on. Well, Charlie was still in the back of the car and we were sort of getting updates along the way. At two forty p.m., President Trump announced that Charlie had died on Truth Social. By that point, anybody who had seen the tape was pretty certain that Charlie had died. I mean, the tape is pretty clear. If you haven't seen it, count yourself lucky and be grateful because it really is horrifying tape. OK, from four o'clock to five fifty nine, official statements alternately claim that a person was in custody and then released. You remember that FBI Director Cash Patel suggested this and then the mayor suggested this. Local police suggested this and then it turned out that nobody had been captured and the suspect, Tyler Robinson, was still at large. Now, according to charging documents, law enforcement found Robinson's shooting location, but no shell casings there and a bolt action rifle with one spent round and three more still loaded wrapped in the towel in the woods that the Robinson ran toward. The way that it works, by the way, is the bolt action weapons do not eject casings automatically because you have to actually pull the bolt back and all of that. OK, September 11th, the next day, a morning press conference unveiled the Mauser rifle that was used to assassinate Charlie. It also showed that there were impressions and surveillance footage showing Robinson's path. And Robinson was described as college age. FBI released stills and that rooftop video and posted one hundred thousand dollar reward for information. At nine p.m., Robinson's parents recognized him in the released images. And this was an image of Tyler Robinson. And they persuaded Robinson to surrender. And Robinson turned himself in at the Washington County Sheriff's Office. So, again, that is all the evidence as of September 11th, twenty twenty five. The next morning, President Trump went on Fox and Friends and said that Charlie Cook's killer was in custody and that he wanted the state authorities to seek the death penalty. And the authorities did, in fact, identify and charge Tyler James Robinson with multiple counts, including aggravated murder, murder, which could carry the death penalty. Felony discharge of a firearm causing serious bodily injury, obstruction of justice, tampering with a witness, violent offense committed in the presence of a child. And the charging documents detailed a ton of evidence, including DNA that was found on the rifle's trigger, the fired cartridge casing, the other unfired cartridges and the towel. Obviously, Charlie was in the middle of answering on tape. He was answering questions about transgenderism and transgender radical ideology when he was shot. Every round that was in the bolt action rifle contained an etched description. One fired round said notices bulge. Oh, what's this? It's all very meme language for people who are too online. The second round said, hey, fascist catch with arrow symbols. The third round said, oh, Bella Ciao, Bella Ciao, Bella Ciao, which was a reference to a revolutionary song. And the fourth round said, if you read this, you are gay. LMAO. And then a search of Robinson's residents found more shell casings with etchings and targets with bullet holes in them. Robinson's own mother told the cops that Robinson had started to lean more to the left, becoming more pro gay and trans rights oriented, and also had begun to date his roommate, a biological male who was transitioning. Robinson's parents called their son and convinced him to meet them at their home. And in their discussion, according to the parents, Tyler, quote, implied that he was the shooter and stated he couldn't go to jail and wanted to end it. When asked why he did it, Robinson explained there was too much evil and that Charlie Kirk spread too much hate. And then the police ended up questioning Robinson's roommate. That was Lance Twiggs, who received texts from Robinson on the day of the assassination. And the texts are weird and stilted and creepy. Obviously, Robinson had instructed Twiggs to look under his computer keyboard and Twiggs found a note that said, I had the opportunity to take out Charlie Kirk and I'm going to take it. And police do have a photograph of that note. And Twiggs then texted what you're joking, right? And Robinson wrote back, I am still OK, my love, but I am stuck in Orem for a little while longer yet. Shouldn't be long until I can come home, but I got to grab my rifle still. To be honest, I'd hope to keep the secret till I died of old age. I'm sorry to involve you. And Twiggs wrote back, you weren't the one who did it, right? And Robinson said, I am. I'm sorry. And Twiggs said, I thought they caught the person. And Robinson wrote back, no, they grabbed some crazy old dude, then interrogated someone in similar clothing. I had planned to grab my rifle from my drop point shortly after, but most of that side of town got locked down. And Twiggs wrote, why? And Robinson said, why did I do it? And Twiggs said, yeah. And Robinson said, I've had enough of his hatred. Some hate can't be negotiated out. Twiggs said, how long have you been planning this? And Robinson said, a bit over a week, I believe. Robinson sent Twiggs a lot of messages stressing about the rifle left in the woods. His dad was asking about the gun after seeing it on the news. And then Robinson told Twiggs to delete their conversation. He said, delete this exchange. You're all I worry about, love. And Twiggs said, I'm much more worried about you. And Robinson said, don't talk to the media, please. Don't take any interviews or make any comments. If any police ask you questions, ask for a lawyer and stay silent. OK, so that's the way that the entire saga played out during the day of Charlie's murder and a couple of days thereafter. OK, literally, literally within two days of Charlie's murder and the day of the announcement that Tyler Robinson had been arrested, Candace Owens started with the conspiracy theories. In a second, we'll get into all the insane conspiracy theories that Candace Owens has been retelling. I will tell you what is not an insane conspiracy theory, that your cell phone company is probably charging you too much. Again, that's just kind of reality. Any company can tell you they're the best. The interesting question is, what happens when someone else does the evaluating? Consumer Reports just released a massive survey of wireless providers. Only one company received five out of five stars across every category. 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Go to it right now, puretalk.com slash Shapiro. So she immediately came out. This is 10.06 p.m., September 12th. Quote, Discord has come out to tell us that the feds are lying about Charlie Kirk's death. And I go, right away, right away. So this was not some sort of search for truth by Candace Owens. This was an immediate leap to conspiracism because, of course, that is what Candace's stock in trade is. And as we will talk about in a little while, we at Daily Wire, I can say this. When we hired Candace Owens in late 2020, early 2021, we had no indicator of the direction that she was going to turn at the time. It is one of my great regrets. I know that it is one of the great regrets for Jeremy Boring and Caleb Robinson, who were the co-CEOs of the company at the time. And it became increasingly clear that Candace had little connection with the truth. I, for one, wanted to fire Candace significantly earlier than she actually was fired. It was not my decision. Eventually, Jeremy and Caleb made the proper and correct decision to fire Candace Owens. And I will point out that at the time, entire swaths of the right suggested that we had done something wrong. And then Candace has continued to demonstrate precisely what she is every single day since. Conspiratorial idiocy, hate mongering, evil, vile trash. And so that started with Charlie literally two days after he was dead. September 14, 2025, Erica vowed to continue Charlie's mission. This is what Erica had to say. Again, this is just shortly thereafter, the very famous video. If you thought that my husband's mission was powerful before, you have no idea. You have no idea what you just have unleashed across this entire country and this world. You have no idea. You have no idea the fire that you have ignited within this wife. The cries of this widow will echo around the world like a battle cry. To everyone listening tonight across America, the movement my husband built will not die. It won't. I refuse to let that happen. It will not die. Well, I never met Erica Kirk in person. I met her September 15th because Michael Moles and Matt Walsh and I, we all went to host Charlie's show in Arizona on September 15th. We met with Erica, a lot of hugs, a lot of tears. It was obviously a devastating moment for her, for the entire TPUSA family, everybody who was there, clearly. Well, on that same day, September 15, Candace posted an episode titled They Are Lying About Charlie Kirk. She immediately claimed that threats were made to Charlie and that the prime minister of Israel, because, of course, Candace is a conspiratorial anti-Semite, she suggested that Prime Minister Benjamin Netanyahu had called Charlie before he died and offered him tons of money by Israel, but turned it down. And as you'll see, this is all part of her broader conspiracy theory that actually Tyler Robinson did not kill Charlie Kirk. It was the Israelis or the French or Egyptian planes or many other things. So by this point, again, this is six days after Charlie had been murdered. He had not been buried yet. The memorial service for Charlie had not taken place yet. She had unspooled a wide variety of conspiracies, suggesting that we weren't being told the whole truth and that the TPUSA family was guilty of some sort of cover up. So September 16, Candace says that no one can tell her to shut up except for Erica, except for Erica. No one and I mean absolutely no one outside of my husband and Erica Kirk has the power to shut me up right now. That's it. Well, as we'll see later, Erica did ask her to stop. And she said no. You know, Candace continued to get more and more bizarre in her conspiracism. She put out a tweet September 17th with everything I've plotted onto a timeline. And with my source on the inside, it seems the feds are lying about the outfit switch, which never made sense to begin with. Hence, the laughably fake messages. There are at least two people involved in my view. And this is just one example. Candace is stoned out about essentially every single piece of evidence. And none of this would matter except that Candace at this time was drawing some four or five million people listening to her show or watching her show every day. It's a huge audience, huge, huge audience, not in spite of the conspiracism because of it, because there is a switch in the human brain that is drawn to conspiratorial finding of words in your alphabet soup. OK, so fast forward to September 21st, 2025. They'll remember this. I was present at this event. This is the memorial for Charlie Kirk. I was in the vice president's box actually at this time. And Erica Kirk spoke. Father, forgive them for they not know what they do. That man, I forgive him now at that same event. Well, well, people were trying to pay tribute to Charlie's memory. The conspiracism just continued to be unleashed. Of course, Tucker Carlson and Candace Owens are allies in this sort of conspiracism. As we'll see, Tucker started off a little more subtle and then became a lot more blatant at the memorial. Tucker started talking about guys eating hummus who are planning to shut Charlie up, something like that. Now, again, he was making I would say this could have been read. I think it was meant to be read because Tucker is not stupid as a as a sort of biblical reference to truth in the New Testament. But I have doubts this is what Tucker actually was trying to do. And I can just sort of picture the scene in a lamp lit room with a bunch of guys sitting around eating hummus, thinking about what do we do about this guy telling the truth about us? We must make him stop talking. And there's always one guy with the bright idea. And I could just hear him say, I've got an idea. Why don't we just kill him? That'll shut him up. That'll fix the problem. Now, as you'll see later, Tucker's thoughts would become a little clearer. It turns out that he kind of literally meant that he thinks that people in a lamp lit room eating hummus came up with some sort of plan to kill Charlie. OK, so by October 12th, Candace is now claiming an Egyptian Air Force plane flying out of Utah had something to do with this quote. On September 10th, after Charlie's assassination, an Egyptian Air Force plane flew out of Provo, Utah. It's the first trip to America ever was made on July 20th to an army base in Nebraska. Tyler Robinson must have had some powerful friends. We have the Egyptian plane theory. Fast forward to December 10th. So on December 10th, as you recall, Candace had said a couple of months earlier that if Erica asked her to stop, she'll stop. On December 10th, Erica told Candace to stop on Fox News. And so my message to them is to stop, to stop. OK, and December 11th, here was Candace's response. I was like, look, she's got a whole business that she's got to figure out. There's a lot of people in her ear. Maybe they like did this transition too quickly. And she's just like keeping her head like, no, what she's saying is turning point USA is untouchable. And it's a no from me. OK, so she won't stop, as it turns out, because she's a sociopathic liar. OK, December 14th, Erica did an interview with Barry Weiss on CBS and asked Candace to stop again. Needless to say, this did not meet with any sort of conciliatory ear. The podcaster Candace Owens, OK, at one time a friend of Charlie's, at one time an employee of Turning Point. She has been one of the main peddlers of these conspiracies, and she is making a huge amount of money on it. She is building her business off of these lies. What do you want to say to her and the other people that are putting these lies out into the world right now? Stop. That's it. That's all I have to say. Stop. Well, it didn't stop. Actually, under pressure, Erica then went and flew to Candace. Again, the insanity of this entire situation is beyond it. Honestly, it's beyond me. Somebody convinced Erica would be a great idea to fly to Candace to have a meeting. And Candace pretty openly implied that she didn't want to meet with Erica in a place where Erica was in charge of the beverages because she's afraid of being poisoned or some such nonsense. So Erica tweeted out, Candace Owens and I are meeting for a private in-person discussion Monday, December 15th. We have agreed that public discussions, live streams and tweets are on hold until after this meeting. I look forward to a productive conversation. Thank you. Well, shocker, there was no actual productive conversation that took place. Erica said there was a productive conversation, maybe from her end. It appeared to be productive. It certainly was not productive because by December 17th, Candace was appearing on Piers Morgan's Jerry Springer show and talking about how people at Turning Point were complicit. Obviously, for this to have been pulled off, there had to have been multiple people involved. There had to have been people at Turning Point that were complicit in having this happen. There were people at Turning Point who are engaged in a cover up. I believe that thoroughly. OK, now, again, all of this was lead up to I spoke at TPUSA and obviously my speech. I brought all this up. I brought up Candace. I condemned her by name. I talked about how what she was doing was evil. I brought up the conspiratorial nonsense promoted by Tucker Carlson. I brought up the fact that Megyn Kelly had been pretending that Candace didn't exist as a human or that she wasn't actually promoting anti-TPUSA, anti-Erica trash. I brought all of that up at TPUSA, and that caused a bit of consternation on the right. And I was accused of, quote, unquote, dividing the movement. Right. You literally had Candace Owens implicating Erica, TPUSA. You had, as we'll see, Tucker Carlson buying into this, providing cover for it. Megyn Kelly doing the same. And yet the people who noted it were the people dividing the movement. And the conspiracies didn't stop. They did not stop. On February 23rd, fast forward a couple of months, Candace posted the trailer for what she called Bride of Charlie, with iconography suggesting Bride of Chucky. There are eight episodes in total, about one hour each. And here are some of the theories, just some of the theories that Candace has now retailed about Erica. One, Erica is a lesbian groomer who is tied to Jeffrey Epstein's child trafficking network. She suggested that Erica doing charity work in Romania is actually tied to sex trafficking. And she framed a, quote, unquote, broader pattern of evil pointing to things like TPUSA facilities being located near Arizona Mills, which she describes as a child trafficking hotspot. She says that Erica and Epstein, quote, may have crossed paths because Erica once worked with Next Model Management, which was founded by a person who was friends with Epstein. Second, she claims that Erica essentially conned Charlie into marrying her and was a nefarious manipulator. She suggested that she had lied about her past and alleged discrepancies in her birth date across legal documents and contested details of her pre-Charlie dating life, brought up old photos of her with the guy she had dated before Charlie. Third, she has claimed that Erica was working with the Israeli government. Again, all that ties into Candace's theory, now echoed by Tucker Carlson, that Charlie was not murdered by a trans loving gay man, but actually was murdered because of his increasing skepticism of American ties with Israel. Also, according to Candace, a Freemason hit squad may have been involved, also the French. Candace then went on and linked Erica's childhood school to what she called MK Ultra adjacent figures. MK Ultra was a bizarre CIA project in the 1960s and 70s utilizing drugs in order to recruit particular fringe figures. And then she connected her family peripherally to a cult scholarship and, of course, then tried to implicate Benjamin Netanyahu and also a Romanian church in a child trafficking scandal. Fourth, she suggested that Erica had manufactured the story of Charlie being shot in the neck and briefly surviving. And fifth, she had suggested there was actually a deep fake of Charlie Crook's voice that was being used to deem Erica the successor of something happened to Charlie. It is all just conspiratorial nonsense that she's putting out there into the universe. And naturally, she found allies. March 24th, 2026, shortly after Joe Kent was about to be fired, but he left from the federal government. He then suggested that there was a foreign nexus and he would testify at Crook's trial about a foreign nexus, even if it helped the Robinson defense. So all of this is turning into a broader miasma of conspiratorial nonsense. On March 30th, the Daily Mail published a misleading headline about the ballistics not matching Tyler Robinson's rifle. And that was not true, OK, because actually what the actual thing showed is that the bullet fragmented. So there's no identifiable bullet. But the headline said that the bullet didn't match. So it couldn't be matched because it fragmented. That doesn't mean that if it were intact, it wouldn't have matched. Now, one of the theories, Candace claimed that a source of her witness, a guy named Brian Harpole, who is Charlie's head of security, leaving what appeared to be a high level meeting with senior military officials at Fort Huachuca, an army base in Arizona on September 9th, 2025. That's the day before Charlie was murdered. Obviously, she suggested that this was a final meeting, a sort of covert op meeting before Charlie's killing. And she tried to claim some sort of involvement by Erica, rooted, I guess, in involvement with Erica and a documentary that filmed a little bit at Fort Huachuca. Harpole was in Dallas at the time, by the way. He has now filed a defamation lawsuit against Candace Owens. OK, Candace didn't stop now for one moment. June 10th of this year, Candace says Charlie was not killed by the left and she attacked Erica again. Charlie Kirk was assassinated, and we all know that it wasn't by the left, OK? Charlie Kirk was not assassinated by the left. I don't care. How many influencers are paid to tell you otherwise? We have common sense, OK? They may have power and money and Barry Wises being installed to control the media, the mainstream media, but we have common sense. And we know Charlie Kirk was not assassinated by a random leftist and his trans furry boyfriend. 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Now, obviously, these sorts of conspiracy theories have now been promulgated across the entire horseshoe woke right. Again, here's June 16th, just a couple of weeks ago. Tucker Carlson laughing as alleged comedian Jimmy Dore pushed conspiracy theories about Charlie's murder and mocked Erica Kerr. Takes the gun apart, leaves the screwdriver there, puts it under a towel. Spider-Man's his way off the top of a building, runs across campus with the gun apparently under a towel. Nobody sees this. He runs into the woods, puts the gun back together again without the screwdriver. He's a regular MacGyver, this guy. And then he hides the gun in the backyard of a house owned by Palantir. And if you think anything else besides that, you're a crazy Jew-hating conspiracy nut. Good friends to Erica. Tucker laughing along to all of that. By the way, Tucker just has it openly. He says the same thing as Candace that Charlie wasn't killed for his trans opinions. The implication, of course, is that Charlie was killed over Israel. Charlie Kirk was murdered. And he was not murdered for his opinions on transgenderism, obviously. He was, I believe, and most people who knew him well as I did and was friends with him as I was, believe he was most likely murdered for his evolving views on Israel. Now, again, what evidence is there for that? None, obviously. But according to Candace, July 2nd, on the Sean Ryan show, again, so many sources of brain rot, so little time. She says that she doesn't even believe that Tyler Robinson was there. You think Tyler Robinson was there? You don't think he was there? I think he's a total patsy. I think they get lookalikes and they got everybody wearing the same outfit. I think he played a role. And I believe that what he did was he picked up clothes and he dumped them behind the Dairy Queen. Okay, so as this week began, there was a tete-a-tete between Andrew Colvitt, who's the producer for Charlie Kirk and close friend of Charlie Kirk, and Candace Owens. Candace put out a tweet. It's an old picture of her with Charlie. One more fight, Charlie. I don't fear these demons. We will win. And Andrew Colvitt put out a tweet. Candace, you and Charlie were not friends. He managed you. He kept things light and polite so you wouldn't turn on the organization. Show me any proof of genuine friendship from the last 12 months of his life, from the last 18 months, from the last 24 months. Not some 2018 text, something recent. You gave him anxiety whenever you called or texted, asking or demanding to speak at our events. He made me or Justin deal with you and George. This is why when you tried to hire me in February 2024 for PR, I agreed to go along with it against my better judgment because Charlie asked me to keep you close and protect the organization from you. The publicist I tried to hire to run point prayed about it and felt the Lord told her a firm no. And so I ultimately declined. This is your central foundational lie. You are not his friend. You are not his defender. You are his tormentor. And now you torment his wife and the organization he built. Candace, you are a fraud. And Candace immediately responded with a bunch of tweets between her and Charlie Kirk in the last year or so of his life that seem, you know, kind of arm's length, but warm. Now, the question is who to believe in all this. Now, here's my thing. I don't care. I actually don't. I don't care very much about the interpersonal workings of the Charlie Kirk relationship with Candace Owens or the Andrew Colvin relationship with Charlie Kirk or Candace Owens or any of the rest. I think that the facts suggest that Andrew is telling the truth and Candace is not also because Candace makes a habit of saying things that are untrue. Put all that aside. Assume that everything that Candace says about her deep and abiding relationship with Charlie is true and Andrew is lying. That still would not change anything that she has been doing since his death. Not a single thing. You understand where we are now, where we are right now is that he's become sports to mock the widow of a person who was murdered and to claim that his organization was complicit in the murder and the cover up. That is the thing that Candace has done. And that is evil. Full stop. It doesn't matter whether they went fishing. Yeah, there's a matter if their kids played together. It doesn't matter if they were best friends. Doesn't matter if they were sexting. None of that matters because once Charlie is murdered and you start attacking his widow and his organization and everybody surrounding him and trying to acquit the person who actually murdered him. Once you do that, you are engaging in evil. And when you are doing that in order to, again, boost your likes and boost your clicks and spread conspiracy theories about the way the world works, deep networks of evil conspirators who can reach out and tap Charlie Kirk in the neck and kill him without being detected with cover up artists in the federal government and all the like. You are promoting evil, conspiratorial trash that rots brains. So I want to take just a second and debunk some of this. I know it sounds wild because I've stacked up all the things she's been saying over the course of the last 10 months. And they're crazy because they are. I mean, these theories are nuts. There is no evidence to suggest them. She, again, is essentially relating what the radio has told her in her dreams at night, what the spirits have said to her. And she's pretending this is evidence. But we'll take one brief second to debunk some of the claims. And the reason we'll do this is because maybe, maybe there are some listeners who actually think that she has researched any of this or that she knows what the hell she's talking about. And she clearly does not, nor does she care. I'm under no impression, by the way, that the people who are deeply ensconced in in this sort of conspiracy theory will be persuaded by the recitation of actual facts. Because, again, that's not Candace's purpose. Candace's purpose, as we'll get to, is to generate smoke, enormous amounts of smoke, fake smoke in order for you to believe that there's fire, in order to implicate broad evil systems that she doesn't like. And all the people she doesn't like are implicated in the same system. Everyone she doesn't like. They're all implicated in this murder. They're all implicated in an evil system of control. That is Candace's entire shtick. And it's eating. I mean, it's brain cancer. It's eating the brain of the right. But I'll take just a moment for those who may be in good faith, have heard clips or little questions about about Candace's theories. And we'll talk about what actually happened here. So, number one, she has claimed that Erica orchestrated or assisted in Charlie's assassination, possibly to seize control of TPUSA or hide other misconduct that's been peddled by Candace Owens, also by professional derelict Milo Yiannopoulos. There are variations that include Erica's rings signaling secret society membership. Again, there is zero evidence here. Zero. The vast majority of this crap is just people reviewing in detail tape of Erica and saying she's not crying at the appropriate place or smiling at the appropriate place that her pants are too tight or that she is wearing white clothing when she should be wearing black. The reality is that for those who saw Erica in the days after Charlie's death, she was devastated. I mean, I know because I saw her the Monday after Charlie's death, but you don't have to take my word for it. Stacey Sheridan, TPUSA's senior director for advancement, was right there by Erica's side after Charlie's death. And the conspiracists ask why Erica's family and friends weren't with her. The truth is that Erica was joined by family, close friends, staff and pastors at Charlie's funeral, his public memorial and every single public event. There is one so-called eyewitness named Mitch Snow. He's a retired army sergeant who appeared on Candace's show and said that he was 95 percent sure that he saw Charlie's former security chief Brian Harpole and Erica Kirk at a military base a day before Charlie's assassination. Snow is not credible. He has multiple anti-harassment orders against him, including for domestic issues as recently as 2023. And Harpole can show he was in Dallas at the time. And then people were trying to make fun of Erica or impute evil motive to her because she posted a video of her grieving next to Charlie's open coffin and saying that the ring that she wears is a Freemason ring because it has the letter G on it. But the G is most likely a G for her daughter, Gigi. OK, other claims that Candace has made that Erica and TPUSA executives had ties to Jeffrey Epstein. Again, this is the all purpose conspiracy theory for the woke right and the woke left. Jeffrey Epstein, as master string puller, passed his death years past his death to the death of Charlie Kirk and that Charlie was actually assassinated to prevent him from exposing some sort of human trafficking ring. Candace circulated a conspiracy about Erica participating in child trafficking out of Romania. By the way, when it comes to actual alleged sex traffickers out of Romania, like Andrew Tate, Candace is totally on board when it comes to Erica Kirk. She's just making up. The theory alleges that Arizona properties near the US-Mexico border were used for trafficking schemes and TPUSA adjacent people have ties to those properties. Again, this is a totally unrelated homicide case having nothing to do with Jeffrey Epstein. There is no, count it, zero evidence establishing links between Erica, Charlie, TPUSA or Jeffrey Epstein. There is a real ICE case about a Phoenix property that was used for human trafficking from 2014, but there's no evidence tying that whatsoever to either TPUSA or anyone in its orbit. So basically, she found an address near another address from years before. Apparently, she says that there is a connection between Erica and Eastern Europe because she called her grandparents Morfar and Farfar, which are terms of endearment in Sweden because Erica is of Swedish descent. Erica also worked for a Christian charity for orphans that did some work in Romania before, and the charity once worked with somebody who was accused of abusing minors. So you string all that together and somehow she arrives at somehow magically. Erica was a sex trafficker. OK, then the claim that, of course, has gone most viral because on the Internet, anything that mentions Jews or Israel goes most viral. And this is that Mossad ordered a hit on Charlie Kerr because he was planning to abandon the pro-Israel cause. Pretty much every conspiracy theorist has embraced this theory. Tucker has embraced this theory. Candace specifically took a Max Blumenthal, who is a lying piece of crap, originated story on Bill Ackman and Hampton's meeting where Charlie was being forced to be pro-Israel in exchange for money. Allegedly, that is not what happened at the meeting. I know a bunch of people who went to that meeting, like a lot of people who went to that meeting. Charlie called it. Charlie asked people to come. If I were going to theorize about what exactly this meeting was, my guess is what the meeting was designed to do was to impress Bill Ackman as a potential donor with the fact that Charlie was taking questions about Israel seriously. In any case, there was this influencer gathering in August of twenty twenty five and included topics like the economic future of America, the cultural landscape of dating and marriage, the convergence of East and West and Mamdani, the new threat to America. There are people who are both pro-Israel and pretty anti-Israel. Charlie Kirk, Bill Ackman corresponded on a bunch of topics thereafter, including launching more open mic events on campus and all of the rest. And then there is Candace's theory that there were two Egyptian Air Force planes that overlapped with Erica's locations over several years and were present near Provo Airport on the day of Charlie's assassination. And this is proof of some sort of foreign military plot to kill Charlie. Ironically, not the Egyptians. It must have been the Israelis or the French. Well, there's only one problem. Candace doesn't understand time zones, literally does not understand time zones. There is no evidence any planes have ever tracked Erica Kirk. Erica offered her flight logs publicly. Liz Wheeler has a full episode debunking this nonsense, and she found that Candace's definition of overlapping planes included Egyptian planes landing within 100 miles of Erica and three days before to three days after Erica got there. OK, next crazy theory, a federal cover up. So the idea here is that Tyler Robinson didn't kill Charlie Kirk by himself, that the FBI scripted the text messages and created a deeper plot, a deep state plot to cover all of this up because the text messages are neat and stilted. And it can't just be that you have a trans person and a gay loving furry who are tweeting or texting each other in stilted, weird fashion because they're stilted, weird people. No, it must be that the FBI is covering it up. Megyn Kelly once pressed Kash Patel on the fake sounding text and Kash Patel stood by everything in the charging documents as authentic. And by the way, the texts are not the only evidence. There's DNA video, his parents recognition and Robinson surrendering to the cops surrendering. Hey, there are a bunch of claims about forensic anomalies, all of which are false. They say that there was no ambulance at the ready, no hospital footage of Charlie arriving, and they say they did not give Charlie CPR. Number one, HIPAA and privacy laws block public release of hospital video. Second, there's visual timelines that show Charlie's body being carried to a vehicle within minutes of being shot. Apparently, he was still alive at the time. Again, I know that only because my security was talking to his security in the car. Again, that is standard for active shooter scenarios because you don't want to leave somebody's prone body out there when there's an active shooter who's still shooting people. And as far as the CPR claim, you may have noticed he was shot in the neck and was bleeding out. CPR doesn't help you if you are shot in the neck and bleeding out. That's not how CPR works. There's a claim that there is no massive exit wound from the bolt action rifle bullet. Well, an ATF report confirmed at a 30 caliber class to form damaged bullet jacket fragment and four lead fragments were covered in Charlie's autopsy. Damaged fragments can share class characteristics with Robinson's rifle. It can't be linked back to any gun because, again, they are fragments. Then there's the claim that Charlie was killed by his microphone exploding. Consumer grade video runs at a certain number of frames per second that can blur cause and effect when you play them in extreme slo-mo. The ATF and FBI filings don't note any explosive residue shrapnel from a device or burns consistent with the detonation. And of course, the autopsy shows he died of a bullet wound. And then they claim that the UVU paved over a courtyard where Charlie was killed and then installed pavers or something that supposedly hid a trap door like a magic trap door. Again, this is so it's retarded. This is retarded. And you're retarded if you believe it. In reality, the school was organizing a memorial to Kirk in the courtyard. Nobody's trying to hide that that's where Charlie was killed. And the school has invested in replacing the grass where Charlie was speaking with new pavers. But the pattern of pavers match standard hardscape and drainage designs. There is zero evidence of anything structurally anomalous. Again, the facts don't matter. This is the whole thing. The facts don't matter. I can spend all day doing this. The facts don't matter. They are of zero consequence to Candace or her myriad followers. Because here's the shtick. And this is always Candace, your shtick, always in front. It's also happened to be Tucker's shtick and the rest of the conspiracy woke right. The goal is to create a miasma of suspicion around an event in order to undermine trust in systems and foster a belief that the conspiratorial leader is the only one who's telling you the truth. That's the entire game. It's the game over and over and over. So in this particular case, the goal is to create a bunch of smoke and nonsense, a bunch of distraction around Charlie's murder and around Erica, because, again, the idea here is to try to show that Erica is a joke or nefarious or an assassin and turn Charlie's assassination into, again, a call for conspiratorial thinking that implicates everything from our allies to the federal government, everything from close friends of Charlie's to his widow. Candace is I don't think Candace is stupid. I think Candace has a unique capacity to convince herself that anything she is saying at the time is a thing she believes that is, in fact, a unique capacity. It makes her fantastic on camera. It also means that she's a sociopath. But do I think that Candace Owens deep down in her rational brain, whatever is left of it, believes that Erica is complicit in Charlie's murder? I don't. I think that she does this because she is a sadist and she enjoys watching Erica and TPUSA and everyone else saying try to fend off her insane accusations day after day. I think she enjoys watching episodes like this one and thinking, hey, look, Shapiro is spending all day on me and spending all day fending off these insane accusations. And again, on a broader societal level, the goal is to essentially destroy anyone who stands in the way of Candace Owens's aspirations. And if Candace Owens can somehow craft a narrative along with friends like Tucker Carlson or people who cover her for her, like like Megyn Kelly or whomever, they can craft these magical narratives where Erica Kirk is the villain. Again, you have to understand how crazy this is. This is legitimately like if there was a movement after MLK's assassination to somehow go after Coretta Scott King or after JFK's assassination to go after Jackie O. It's hard to find an equivalent because an equivalent doesn't exist. But it works. It works because if you can turn the widow of a murdered man into a punchline, you can do anything. If you can use conspiratorial thinking to destroy the legacy of a person who is assassinated, you can accomplish anything. You can tear down anything. Candace is a universal asset. And it works. It works. I mean, when comedian Drewski is making fun of Erica Kirk and this is popular and this is good and it's considered like a normal punchline now. Again, this is not mocking an assassination because, again, we have lots of assassination jokes. It is mocking the widow of the of the person who was assassinated. And this was this was popular online. This is this is considered normal and cool and funny. Get on your feet. I serve a righteous God. And that is why we say our prayers. And we are all his children. But when I say children, I mean like the holy blessed Trinity, which is why I hold the Bible. We have to protect all men in America, especially all white men in America. Those are the boys that we care about in this country. America, this is all fun and games for Candace and her crowd. This is all fun and games. And then you can just pass it off as it's just jokes. It's just jokes. Because, again, normalizing evil, you say it's a joke. Here is Candace laughing at the at the monstrousness that she has created because they are the ones who matter most. OK, that black guy didn't say a single word. And so just takes away the entire scene, just perfect faces that he's making behind him. This is how everybody's feeling. And now there are real world consequences, both immediate consequences and then far ranging consequences for this sort of stuff. First, the immediate consequences. So there is an institute called the National Contagion Research Institute, and they sort of investigate online trends and try to figure out how certain things percolate on the Internet. They just released a report July 2026 titled How Candace Owens Built a Digital Assassination Culture Targeting Erica Kerr. They did an analysis of X content because X is where this stuff spreads most virally targeting Erica between Charlie's assassination in September 2025 and June of 2026. Of the 712,559 posts on X referencing Erica that NCRI collected and analyzed, 1034 contained explicit threats or incitement directed at Erica. NCRI found they reviewed about half of those explicit threat posts and they found that 82.7 percent were genuine threats or incitement and that Candace Owens was referenced in 9.2 percent of the posts. Her mention rate in explicit threat posts rose from 1 percent in September to 14.4 percent in December to 15.8 percent in February, coinciding with the launch of that Bride of Charlie docuseries. Owens herself has made 412 posts mentioning Erica Kerr, Charlie Kerr or TPUSA in that same period. 130 of those posts are Erica specific. And NCRI found that Owens is Erica targeting posts on a given day predicted elevated threat volume two days later, a statistically unlikely pattern. One of the 10 highest volume accounts generating Erica Kerr related content was one called Adam E-Media, which references Owens in 26.2 percent of his posts. This is a pro-Russia fake MAGA node, this particular account. So again, Erica has not been able to public events. Obviously, the outsized hatred and mockery of Erica is being generated somewhere, and we know where that is coming from. And that's evil. It's wrong. It's a widow with a couple of kids. It's disgusting. And again, not all fun and games, not all jokes, not just a bunch of entertainment content that you're consuming. You know, like it's George Nouri at 2 a.m. You're listening to alien stuff. This is evil and it has much, much deeper consequences even than the immediate. And this is a real question. Is there a conservative movement left to save? That's the question, because conservatism depends on one very simple premise. You are responsible for your own actions. Conspiratorial systems are not responsible for your failures. Your choices are in your own hands. That is what conservatism is rooted in in a free country like the United States. But if you sell people a bag of goods that says that everything around you is a manipulated system, that you live in the matrix, that everything around you is a manipulated system, all your failures are the result of deeply embedded evil systems that can get away with anything from assassination to child sex trafficking. And you can't even see the evidence because the cover up is that good. If you start to believe that you will not just ruin your life, you'll ruin the country. See, here's the thing. Watching Candace Owens do this shtick is not just a matter of watching some trash TV, you know, while you're while you're bored at the office. It's not watching Jerry Springer or Ricky Lake or something. For conservatives, this is a matter of whether your mind will be captured by a theory of the world that suggests, again, you are not in control of your own life. You need some sort of wizard like figure to guide you through the political spirit world that there is no truth that you can discover, except if you are guided there by somebody with dreams who no knows that everything you don't like is the result of systems designed to harm you and your family. That stuff is cancerous. It's cancerous to a constitutional republic. It's cancerous to conservatism. So here's the thing. It's an actual sin to listen to Candace Owens spew this evil trash. If you do, you're giving her your time, which means that obviously she's making a lot of money off of this sort of stuff. But what's far more important than the money is money is just money. But what's far more important, if you give her your brain cells to kill, you are harming yourself. You are harming the world. Stop pretending that you're subscribing to ideological pornography just because it's entertaining. It's soul destroying, not just for Erica Kirk or her children or the people at TPUSA, but for you and then for the country. Now, people who are trying to destroy the country and the soul of the country, the left obviously wants to do this, by the way, in an ineffective right, a right that succumbs to this sort of conspiratorial nonsense at the highest levels. And again, it has percolated up to the highest levels of the Republican Party, people who engage in this sort of conspiratorial anti thinking trash. A conservative movement that destroys itself is not capable of facing down a left wing movement that is ascendant right now. And the America haters are on the move. What an amazing video you just watched. Wasn't that amazing? Well, you know, if you think so, head on over to Daily Wire dot com slash subscribe to watch the full show ad free or check out this crazy story here.