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'Sarah Ferguson maintains she never knew the extent of Epstein's abuse...'
'He was in prison when she visited!'
The Telegraph's Poppy Wood shares details on new revelations that Former Duchess of York Sarah Ferguson visited child sex offender Jeffrey Epstein twice whilst he was serving his prison sentence.
The Telegraph reports that Sarah Ferguson visited Jeffrey Epstein twice at a fake firm's office while he was imprisoned for sex offenses. Ferguson sought Epstein's help for a business venture called \"Mother's Army\" during a period of financial instability. The segment also includes a promotional interview for Tally Money, a gold-denominated account service.
Breaking tonight, The Telegraph is reporting that Sarah Ferguson visited Jeffrey Epstein twice at his office for a fake firm he set up while imprisoned on child sex offences.
The former Duchess of York met the convicted paedophile on two occasions at the Palm Beach office of the fake company he invented to secure work release while in prison.
She also planned to meet him a third time at the headquarters of the bogus firm, which was called the Florida Science Foundation,
but her travel plans fell through at the last minute, so it would have been a hat-trick.
With me now is the journalist behind that scoop, US correspondent for The Telegraph, Poppy Wood.
Hello Poppy, welcome to The Late Show Live. I would say this is extraordinary, but I guess as I've been saying all night,
the best way to describe Fergie's judgement is questionable, to say the least, and that's being quite generous.
Yeah, I mean it certainly looked like a difficult time for her. She seemed to be going through some sort of financial troubles,
but she really was reaching out to Epstein whilst he was in prison to try and get one of her ventures off the ground.
Epstein had been in jail for about nine months by this point, in April 2009, and she contacted him saying,
I happen to be in Palm Beach, I'd love to pop by for a cup of tea.
Actually Epstein was supposed to be in jail, but he'd been given a very generous plea deal at this point when he was first incarcerated on sex offences.
It was a lower judgement than it should have been, some argue.
So she went along, we see from the Epstein files, and they emailed the next day saying, Epstein said, you look great.
And she replied saying, it was spectacular to see you, it was a great honour to see you, that sort of thing.
She tried to arrange to go again, and then she went the second time.
It appears from the Epstein files, about a month later, again popping by Palm Beach to go and see him in this office that he got out of jail on very generous work.
Yeah, all very friendly and pally, wasn't it?
And one of the emails unearthed from Ferguson to Epstein says, I'm coming into Palm Beach to see you on Wednesday.
I land at half nine. Can your brilliant driver, Yanush, pick me up, bring me to you, the great one, and then take me to Miami, please, with roses on top, love me.
And what was she after? What was this organisation she was wanting money for?
Wasn't it a women's organisation?
So it was very pally at this point, you can see from the tone of the messages.
As I said, Sarah Ferguson, she was very public about her financial troubles since divorcing Prince Andrew, Andrew Mountbatten-Windsor, and stepping away from royal duties.
And she tried her hand at many things to get things off the ground.
I think by that point she'd already been sort of spokesperson for Weight Watchers.
She'd tried her hand at film production.
And this latest venture was called Mother's Army, and it was trying to connect women in need.
And she was sort of scrambling around to find high profile women that might help support this business venture.
I mean, that train of thought is just insane.
You're starting a women's organisation for vulnerable and needy women, and you're going to a predator of not just women, but vulnerable young women as well.
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I mean, what's going through her mind?
Well, she has always claimed that, you know, she never knew about the extent of his abuse
and she certainly wouldn't have been friends with him if that were the case.
But he was in prison when she visited.
Well, this is the kind of statement in the room is that, you know,
lots of people say that they've bought Epstein's lies
and that he found a very believable way to dress them up as, you know,
it wasn't as serious as it looked and, you know,
I was duped and maybe this woman showed for him ID.
But not only visiting someone whilst they're in jail on a child sex offence,
but, you know, in quite a cushy deal that comes out of it,
you would certainly raise questions about what was going on there.
It's already been reported that she, after he was released from jail a couple of months later in July 2009,
he was then put on house arrest at his home around the corner in Palm Beach
and she flew to Palm Beach another time with her daughters,
princesses Eugenie and Beatrice, to go and visit him again.
So, you know, serious questions probably should have been raised,
but he was somebody who could seek out people's vulnerabilities and exploit them
and it's certainly possible that happened in this case,
that he saw that she might have been in a bit of a pickle and used it to his advantage.
Well, maybe, obviously never met the bloke, never will because he's dead,
but maybe he was literally just a very charming man, very manipulative.
I mean, that's Fergie's excuse anyway.
So this sort of latest tranche of emails is from the Epstein file.
So we're still getting documents, are we, from the Epstein file?
No, it's all been there since the sort of latest data dump in January.
But as you'll know, and as a British audience will know,
there's been a flurry of reporting in the initial wake of those emails
and now there's a bit of a lull and in that time,
Congress has invited people to speak and give testimony
because they want accountability for what's going on here.
Andrew, Fergie?
Well, not yet, but some people have been speaking in the past few weeks
and they raised this fake company that Epstein had appeared to set up
to get him out on work release whilst in jail
and that really piqued our interest.
We started looking into it.
So it's more just a matter of collating things
that have already been out for quite a while,
but there are 3.5 million documents that are out there.
It takes some digging and some piecing together
to work out who's doing what when in decades of sort of data.
And just tell our viewers, Poppy, when you are going through the files,
what does that look like?
Do you have any sort of software or bots to help you search for keywords
or do you have to manually trawl through all these documents?
What's it like?
I wish it was more specific than that
and I think in years time we'll be looking back at this thinking,
I can't believe journalists were manually scraping through the files
and they're not in chronological order,
so it really does take some sort of timeline process that you have to do.
We should have used AI, but this is a matter of me and my team
going through it manually and trying to make sense of these things.
Yeah, well done you. Great scoop.
What is Sarah Ferguson doing these days?
Good question.
She seems to...
There is reporting that she's been at various wellness retreats since...
Trying to find herself.
...and Andrew have faced scrutiny in the wake of the Epstein files,
but I think it's a matter of sort of staying low.
She is not commenting on Epstein files stuff at the moment,
but as I said, she's previously said that she distanced herself from him
as soon as she knew the full extent of his crimes.
Yeah. Alright, Poppy, thank you so much.
Appreciate it. Great scoop.
Hopefully you'll come back in the studio soon.
Are you enjoying DC? How long have you been here?
Yes, five weeks or something.
Five weeks?
I'm very new to it.
Oh, you're a newbie. What do you make of it?
It's lovely. It's very nice.
But it's very different conditions to London,
although not at the moment because it's a heatwave in London,
so I'm climatising from coming down to swampy DC,
but it's certainly a lot going on here.
Swampy DC. You wait for the mosquitoes as well.
They're the worst thing in the summer.
They'll be here soon.
Poppy, thank you very much.
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A spokesman for Miss Ferguson previously told the BBC
that the Duchess spoke of her regrets
about her association with Epstein many years ago,
and as they've always been, her first thoughts are with his victims.
Like many people, she was taken in by his lies.
As soon as she was aware of the extent of the allegations against him,
she not only cut off contact but condemned him publicly
to the extent that he then threatened to sue her for defamation
for associating him with paedophilia.