'Labour want CHAOS!' | Ben Leo RAGES as government to move THOUSANDS of migrants to military bases

Right, breaking tonight, Labour promised to end asylum hotels and technically they have because instead of hotels, well, they're kicking the can down the road. They're now moving migrants into military barracks. Lucky you. Same crisis, different postcode. If you take the issue of asylum hotels for example, we had years under the previous government where they didn't process claims. So tens of thousands of people didn't have their claims processed. They were then housed in hotels. That was the policy of the last government, with 400 at the height of it, it's now about 200. I'm determined that we will close those hotels, we're processing the claims much more quickly and where people have got no right to be in our country, we're removing them at a higher rate than the best part of a decade. So we're taking action. Yeah, right. Let me be honest from the top here, this whole thing is a scam because nothing says under control quite like reopening RAF bases to house thousands of asylum seekers. We don't know who they are, where they're from, what their intentions are, 3,750 people being parachuted into lovely places like Bicester, Barnham, Linton-on-Ouse, entire communities now finding out they're getting an asylum centre before they've even had a chance to complain on Facebook and trust me, British Village Facebook pages make the Hunger Games look civilised. But we've done this before, haven't we? Do you remember Linton-on-Ouse? The government tried it in 2022, locals revolted and the council sued and the plan collapsed quicker than Meghan Markle's popularity in Britain. What the Home Office has done is appalling and people want to let the Home Office know that there is strong feeling that what they've done is absolutely wrong, that this is the wrong plan and that this is the wrong place. Well they're at it again, they're back. Because rule number one in politics is if the public hated it the first time, don't do it again. Unless of course, you're the Home Office. But it gets worse because the entire debate exists for one reason, Britain still hasn't fixed the front door. We've not closed the border. We're arguing about whether migrants should stay in a hotel or an old RAF base while tens of thousands continue coming still. It's like arguing over deck chairs on the Titanic. We are passing a borders bill with extensive powers to smash the gangs. These are terrorist-like powers that give powers to the police to intercept where they think the suspects are committing people's murder. And yet here we are again, still debating where to house people who weren't supposed to be here in the first place. Let me tell you, the public are not stupid. With me now is the host of Stinchfield Tonight on Real America's Voice News, the man himself, Grant Stinchfield. Grant, good to see you. Fair enough, so good to see you first. Thank you so much for coming in. Look, just explain what happens in America with, you did have some migrant hotels as well, didn't you? A lot of them. I mean, when Biden was in office and they had our open border problem, we were flooding hotels in big blue cities, of course, with these illegal aliens. And I remember a story in Chicago where one of my very good friends, a man you know, was out there reporting on this. He literally had United States American veterans that are homeless on the street in sub freezing temperatures. And we had illegal aliens being put up under the dime of Chicago getting reimbursed from the federal government. It was crazy. You're going to have homeless veterans on the street and you're putting up illegal aliens. And the fact you told me that this is happening in Great Britain now, it doesn't surprise me because it's a leftist mentality. Yeah, it is a leftist mentality because they could easily, for example, the least they could do in the UK is detain these people. If you want to put them in hotels or former military bases, fine, stop them coming in the first place, I argue. But if they have to come in because you're so incompetent from stopping them, at least make sure they're detained and they're not allowed to leave. I think the first thing that you all need to do is secure the borders. Look, that's what President Trump did. He secured the border. So then once you do that, you know, once he took office, it happened very, very quickly. Once you do that, you can start the roundup process. You already have them in hotels. Why are you letting them to leave? You know what they're doing. I know you know what they're doing, Ben. I know the viewers know what they're doing. They're going out and committing crimes. So you're telling me you're going to let criminals go out on the street, commit crimes, go rape the citizens of Great Britain, and then come back and put them up, give them a hot meal and a warm bed? Yeah. Courtesy of the taxpayer. Like you said, some nationalities, it's been found from government data, they are more prone, much higher odds of them committing, for example, sexual offenses than native Brits. How did Trump stop it over here? Just briefly, illegal migration. Well, so by one, shutting down the border, enforcing the border, shutting down. We had this this border patrol app that you could basically sign up and waltz right in. Shut that down. Start patrolling the southern border and enforcing the law. It like literally was that simple. You start enforcing federal law that you are not allowed to come into the country illegally. You're going back. So, Grant, tell me, as an American, when you look across the pond and you see what's going on, we've had 70,000 illegals into the country since Labor took power. They've been put up in hotels, now to military bases, communities being thrust for these people when they don't want them. Why do you think that's happening? And why do you think our government doesn't do the same as President Trump and literally stop it overnight? Well, I know for a fact that your government doesn't have the stones to do what President Trump does. I don't think they have the political will to do it. I think they have the same problem that Democrats have in the United States, that they're pandering to the people they're trying to help, but they're hurting the most. So the members of these communities where the illegal aliens are coming out of the hotels and going raping, pillaging, stealing, it's not the rich, fancy communities. It's the poor communities. It's the very poor people that they claim that they have compassion for from letting into the country. So, again, you've got to shut the borders down. I don't think your politicians have the will. I don't think they want to. I think the people that are leading government in Great Britain, you know, thankfully Keir Starmer is stepping down, who knows when, but he's stepping down, stepping down. I think they want this chaos in their country because then what they do is they make all of the people beholden to government. When you see the chaos around you, oh no, well we'll have to turn to government for the solutions. That's not the solution. Stop the chaos and let everybody live peacefully. You know, you've been here in DC. I've been here a couple of times over the last month or so and I hadn't been here for a long time because I don't like coming to this city. It is a swamp, except it's a beautiful swamp now. President Trump literally transformed this city. The statues are cleaned up. There are a lot of homeless people on the street. I feel safe. London could do that. York could do that in a heartbeat. You could do it the next day, Ben. I was at the Reflecting Pool the other day speaking to, there was a couple of leftist voters there. They were saying it's, according to them, the only good thing the president's done is clean up the city, make it look beautiful again. I would argue there's a lot more that President Trump's offered than that. There's an awful lot more than that. But even they were saying it's great what the president's done here. But no, look, Ron, some people may be watching this clip online or on the show and be saying, well, it's not all illegals who are rapists and murderers and go and commit crime. It's a minority proportion. What would you say to that? Well, I'm going to tell you, I don't care how many others are doing it. I mean, I want it all stopped. I want every illegal alien arrested and deported, whether they're in Great Britain or the United States, so they can't commit a crime because the crimes they commit didn't have to happen if they weren't here. Let law enforcement focus on the American citizens, the citizens of England, to go out so they don't have to worry about illegal aliens and focus on criminals here. Of course, we've got all kinds of criminals here. But the bottom line is I want cops being focused on them now. They're so focused on so many people here that we let in that are committing crimes. And the fact is, in England and here in the United States, they commit crimes at a higher rate than anybody else. Yeah. Government data shows that as well. And like I said, you get people on the left who would say, well, white British people commit crimes and white British people rape or commit sexual assaults. Well, it's a ridiculous argument because, again, if the police could focus on your citizens that are committing crimes and that's all they had to worry about, great. But then now they have to worry about this whole other slew of people that are committing crimes. And why does anybody want anybody committing crimes in their country? And I'll tell you this, when you put them up in hotels, when you feed them, when you give them debit cards and free groceries and cell phones and all this stuff, all you do is incentivize the illegal immigration. Yeah, they just keep coming. What do you think President Trump would say looking at the UK's illegal migration problem now? Saying that we're going to put them in military bases, freeze Roman communities? You know what he would say? The people running the government are low IQ individuals. Low IQ. That's a great impression. It was worth it. I tried that. Thank you so much. Appreciate you being here. It's great to be here. Thank you. 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Probably going to go into the places like Chippy Norton, Morning Marsh, wherever, all across the Cotswolds. And you're now going to have these people who spend a lot of money living in a nice place going from Bicester into the Cotswolds, elsewhere, all across the country. These communities do not deserve this. Kicking the can down the road and at the same time, Labour taking a victory lap for closing asylum hotels is absolute nonsense. With me now is political commentator Dana Alexa. Dana, good to see you. Thank you for coming on The Late Show Live. What's your take when you hear this kind of nonsense from Great Britain? My mind goes in a million different directions. Well, first, Ben, why? I mean, why even invite a problem to begin with? So you have people coming over by ship and there's hundreds, if not thousands of them. And you know, like your previous guest just said, there's this incentivisation to do that. I don't know why the previous prime minister, Keir Starmer, you know, the way he talks about it, it's more like you're inviting the problem there. And it's probably because if you don't talk about it, you don't win elections. And unfortunately, we have a class of people, the menopausal class, the women, the white women in particular, that bend over backwards for the very people that would kill them. And so it's one thing to to migrate to a community. But if you don't assimilate to a community, you don't have a nation. And so these are the same people, mind you, that in broad daylight out there in the open advocate for the for the for the breakdown of civilisation. You know, they hate our Western culture and it's not a secret. They say it out loud. And so I don't understand why you're inviting a group of people that want to seize us existing into the very great nation that it was. I've never been to Europe, to be honest with you, Ben. I have no will to go to Europe just from what I've seen from the countries and all over Europe. I thought we would take a history lesson and I could spend an hour doing so. But I'll spare you for that. Dana, let me get your thoughts. Why do you think the government could do this? Why do you think the government, OK, if they're going to flood the southern border and flood our towns and cities and military bases, why do you think our government, our very simple thing of detaining them, making sure they can't leave? Because that is, for me, the big issue, them being allowed to come and go as they please, get buses into towns and cities, mix with the locals and so on. Why do you think it's a very simple, basic thing which they could do overnight? Why do you think they don't do that? Why do I think that they don't what sit there and like and like that the very people that they're inviting in is the question. Yeah, pretty much, I mean, honestly, sorry. Yeah, it's a it's not that complex. But to put it very bluntly, I just feel like if you don't have active problems like immigration, which has been a main one all across the UK, then you don't win elections because right when your country or the region you're in starts to have some semblance of normalcy and things are operating as they should and everything's peaceful and communities are getting along, you have nothing to run on. And I honestly just think it's all election driven. And it's the same kind of stuff that we do here in America. I hate it. The left does it all the time. The same talking points, the same tactics. And guess what, Ben? It wins them elections. So it's no surprise that you have, you know, Keir Starmer, people in the past, other people in the UK parliament that advocate for this kind of thing. Yeah, interesting. Elon Musk has talked about it a lot in the United States, saying it and being very generous. The most generous explanation, and maybe it's one part of the puzzle, is that in the future, when these illegal migrants get asylum, they then become citizens, they can vote. And who are they going to vote for? They're not going to vote for the parties who wanted to close the borders. Dana, thank you so much. Appreciate you being on. Please come back on soon when you can. Dana Alexa, political commentator. Thank you. Let's get the thoughts of my panel. Chair of Republicans Overseas UK, Greg Swenson, Democrat strategist Mally Smith, Tory councillor Elliot Keck and Labour commentator Simon Nash. Good evening to you all. Right. Who wants to go first? Mally Smith, let's start with you. Why, why are our governments doing this to the people of Great Britain and America previously under Biden? What is this? Well, I don't know. I do think it's funny that trying to tackle this issue, they thought that the hotels were the problem, not the unchecked migration. And the next prime minister, Andy Burnham, is going to have to come up with a solution here because we've seen how this issue really tanked Keir Starmer. I think it's going to obviously be some combination of strengthening the border, cracking down on asylum jumping, because the UK is the last stop here. They are going through other countries where they could claim asylum. They're claiming asylum at the end. And then the second thing is, is they have to process these faster, which means spending money on judges to make sure when there are legitimate claims, those are being heard. Which, you know, I think my answer here, Ben, is probably a little bit to the right of some progressives saying that, yes, I think there needs to be checks. But I also think, too, as I said, there needs to be spending on judges so asylum claims can be heard. So when they're legitimate, they can stay and it can be processed quickly. So we know what's wrong and why this is happening. But why aren't they fixing it? Because they can fix it, Greg Swenson. They can fix it. And to me, I'll say again, it almost is so incompetent, it seems intentional. Yeah, it is intentional. And in the UK, they want the migrants coming in, as your first guest said, because it creates chaos and more dependency on government. It grows the state. The state becomes a bigger part of not just the migrants' lives and the free stuff, but also the state has to step in to manage the chaos that they've created. In the United States, it's a double whammy. When Biden did this, yes, it was to create chaos. But also, as Dana pointed out, it's all about elections. They flooded these blue states with illegal migrants, even though they can't vote yet, not for at least a few years. It counts in the census. So we have a census every 10 years. That determines how many congressional seats and electoral votes each state gets. And what they're doing, when we're seeing California, Illinois, New York, the people that pay the taxes are moving out because those states are ungoverned and they're being ruined. But they're replacing them with illegal migrants so they don't lose as many congressional seats as they would without the migration. Well, Elliot, the risk of that is, if that is the explanation, and the government would deny that, of course, they'd say, of course, we're not allowing illegal migration to harvest votes for the future. But if that wasn't the explanation, they are trading off votes for the integrity, the identity of Great Britain. Great Britain eventually will look no longer like Great Britain, if that's the path they take, Elliot. Well, yes, Ben. And listen, there is actually a history of this. The first Blair government in the late 1990s significantly liberalized visa laws to allow immigrants to bring in significantly more family members. And one of the reasons why was because a lot of the immigration at the time was in particular from places like India and Pakistan, countries that are in the Commonwealth and countries whose citizens are thereby entitled to vote in British elections, even without actually citizenship, even without indefinite leave to remain. And so as a result, significant numbers of Indian and Pakistani migrants brought in extended family members, adding to the total electorate. And of course, those communities do, at least historically, tended to vote Labour. So there is a history of this. I do think that is at least one of the factors here. But Ben, I think you made a really important point earlier in the program. I think all this debate about where we house migrants is second to the conditions and the requirements that we have when they are housed. And as you say, they should be detained. They shouldn't be allowed to mix with the population. Although I do think that military barracks are slightly preferable to hotels, given the second you take up a hotel, you are removing an important community space, spaces where people have Christmas parties, weddings and the like. So listen, the whole situation is a mess. And I do agree with, I think it was Greg that said that this is simply a government that has no interest in actually dealing with this in the long term. I would, I disagree with that. Yeah, and for me, don't, sorry. Well, yeah, I mean, the government is dealing with it. There was a huge issue with migrant hotels. And I recounted that story of a man who, you know, well, they are they're moving people from hotels to barracks. The government owns those barracks already. So the rent cost will be zero pounds. Well, I mean, you're not, you get the money. Forget the money. These people, these strange people from far away lands, we don't know who they are, where they're from, what their intentions are. They are still allowed to roam the streets of Britain, to frequent our high streets and cities, to mix amongst our children and our women primarily. What's the difference? Well, I mean, you talk about detaining people. If that is a future policy to restrict the movement of asylum seekers and refugees in the future, it will be much easier to do that on a military base. I don't think that is a huge issue. But I mean, having people in migrant hotels, you can't stop them leaving migrant hotels easily if they're on a military base. You don't think it's an issue, Simon, these people are allowed to walk around the streets freely? You don't think that's an issue? Well, it can be an issue. But I think for the majority of them, no, I think the majority of them are good people and treat other people and treat women well. But how many rapes and murders is too many, Simon, for you? Rhiannon Sky White, stabbed 24 times in the head with a screwdriver. Poor lad down in Bournemouth, what was his name? Thomas Roberts, I believe he was, killed by a double murderer from Serbia. Another elderly man in Manchester. How many rapes and murders is OK for you before you say, no, they should be detained? Well, should we detain every single white man in Britain in a curfew at 6pm? To stop any woman being harmed on any night out? I mean, I don't think that would be. We've got our own misfits and degenerates. We've got our own misfits and degenerates in the UK before importing more. So again, I ask you, how many imported criminals, rapes and murderers is enough before you say, yes, they should be detained? Well, that's a very difficult question to answer. I think that I mean, putting people in military barracks and making them have good lives there whilst they're seeking asylum and serving them, giving them education and maybe detaining them there, that might be a better solution than migrant hotels. And the government is doing something about it. Shahbaz Mahmood is putting through an immigration act at the moment. And that will mean, OK, the right to family life, this part of the Human Rights Act, which has often meant people can have a child or they're both from overseas, both claiming asylum. They have a child which is then technically British because it's born here. That means they can't be deported. Well, she's getting rid of that. And no government in the last 10, 15 years has done so. I mean, we do have the statistics on this. Aerotrains and people from Afghanistan, who are two of the most overrepresented groups coming over on small boats, they are 20 times more likely to commit sexual crimes than the British citizens. And if the argument is that we already have rapists and murderers here in the United Kingdom, so let's import a load more, that does not seem like a healthy or sustainable argument over the long term. Well, I wouldn't agree with many. Oh, sorry, carry on here. Go on Simon, I was just going to say there was a young girl raped by three Afghans. They were jailed not so long ago. I mean, multiple rapes, but let's talk about Afghans alone. They are just more prone, the data backs it up, to raping people, to raping our young girls and women. So it's not a controversial argument to say these people should be detained until their asylum applications are processed or preferably deported. Well, I mean, we are where we are. The government is reducing small boat crossings. People are now in migrant hotels. They're moving them to military bases, which are more isolated, which are more away from vulnerable teenage girls. So actually, that is moving forward. And so while we've got these people here, if they do stop all of the small boat crossings, those people can be processed and then the problem can be solved. I mean, there is an argument kind of half-jokingly for DEI for the small boat crossings. They are largely young men and perhaps they should introduce some kind of DEI thing, so you have an equal number of women and people of different ages. That would solve a lot of problems in an ideal world. Yeah, well, it's all young men who are fleeing war, leaving their families and their women and their kids back in their home nations and then come into the UK. So yeah, and to say that these military barracks are away from young teenage girls or women, they're not. They're putting one up in Bicester, in Oxfordshire. They're going to get buses. They get bus passes. The government literally says, here you are, Mohammed or Abdul, here's a bus pass. Travel freely where you want. Go into the Cotswolds, go into Surrey, go wherever you want. They are free to roam the streets. Just stop the bus passes then. Simple. Just stop the bus passes. Problem solved. Don't be silly, Simon. Yeah, don't be silly. Well, they haven't got bicycles and cars, have they? When we're talking about Afghans and others who are raping women and kids, I don't find that very funny. Anyway, GBNews.com reports. That's your say. Let me know your thoughts. Border security and asylum minister Alex Norris has said, we promise to close every asylum hotel and hand them back to communities. That's exactly what we're doing. Twenty more hotels have closed and hotel numbers have more than halved since their peak. Instead, we're moving asylum seekers into ex-military sites that are a far cry from the hotels the last government left us. This is a system being brought back under control and we won't stop until the job's done. Well, very good then. Everything's going to be just all right.