Migrants who prioritise loyalty to Australia are what s needed

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Jun 25, 2026
Menzies Research Centre Senior Fellow Nick Cater says Australia needs a “more realistic” approach to migration.
Mr Cater told Sky News host Rita Panahi that he doesn’t distinguish people on their “colour or race”.
“So long as they’re overriding, number one loyalty is to this wonderful country that we chose to call home.”
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AI GeneratedThe discussion centers on a debate sparked by cricketer Usman Khawaja and Minister Anne Aly regarding Pauline Hanson's views on \"monoculturalism.\" The conversation evolves into a broader philosophical argument over the definitions of multiculturalism versus monoculturalism, the nature of national loyalty, and the ideal approach to immigration in Australia.
Now Australian cricketer Usman Khawaja has taken a little swipe at Pauline Hanson. He was at a Q&A
event hosted by Amazon at Parliament House and was asked which politician he'd most like to see
drafted into a sports team. He immediately nominated Pauline Hanson for the Socceroos,
saying there would be a lot of drama. Meanwhile Labor Minister Anne Arley has claimed that under
Pauline Hanson's monoculturalism there would be no Socceroos, there wouldn't even be any soccer.
Pauline Hanson's monoculturalism? There would be no soccer. There'd be no Socceroos,
there'd be no Cahill, no Foster, no Aloisi, no Irokunda, no Mabel.
Oh dear me, these arguments are so asinine, Nick, really. I mean there'd be no soccer,
apparently. Does she misunderstand what monoculture means or does she just playing
deliberate games here? Because I think she's intelligent enough to know that in a monoculture
you can have people from all sorts of backgrounds and ethnicities, you just have a dominant culture
and set of values and beliefs. Well I know what Pauline Hanson means, I know what you say is
generally correct, but I must say if I'd have been choosing my words for a national audience
I would have probably avoided it because it just points back to, you know, it presents ideas in
people's heads that aren't part of her intention, she'd be better off, you know, saying it in words
that isn't going to, people won't necessarily agree with, but they're not going to sort of
smash their television in protest. So that's another thing, that's just a matter of words,
not content. As for the Socceroos, look this is nonsense. I mean they are the very example,
those of them that are immigrants, I don't know how many are, but they're the example of the very
immigrants we need. People that are prepared to stand up, work hard for their country,
have the right values in terms of skill, energy, in terms of persistence. They prove why we need
to be much more careful about the kind of migrants we select. Not that multiculturalism and all its
sort of woke glory is the right philosophy to hold. You know, no Australian would have
any quarrel with those kind of people who come to this country. Indeed we want many,
many more of them. The question is we want a government that's able to pick between the two
and overall just keep the numbers at a level that we can absorb.
I disagree with you. I don't have a problem with her using that word,
even introducing that word to the debate. I think for too long conservatives have been frightened
to actually make these points and articulate their positions. All they ever do is play defence
and to actually boldly say this is our vision, this is what we want and if it's going to put
a few noses out of joint or people want to deliberately misrepresent what that means,
they're going to do that anyway. I want to play you a clip here from Christopher Pyne. I think
it's bad enough being lectured by Labor and the Greens, now we've got liberal bedwetter Christopher
Pyne on the ABC lecturing us about multiculturalism. I also noticed that Pauline this afternoon was
talking about the Socceroos being a great example of monoculture. They're actually a great example
of multiculturalism because of course, as she was pointing out, there are so many different
people in the team, players in the team from many, many different countries of origin and yet they're
all playing under the green and gold, under the Australian flag. So I think Pauline's example of
monoculturalism is actually an example of multiculturalism. So I think we're getting
to the semantics. What Pauline's really saying is she wants everyone to kind of support Australia,
which I think we all get, but that's not a rejection of multiculturalism, it's an embracing
of it and I think Angus should embrace it as well. It's almost become semantics, word games here and
again, I don't understand why you cannot say, you know, we believe in a multi-ethnic society
but multiculturalism by definition suggests that all cultures are equal, all cultures should be
tolerated and that's just simply not the case, Nick, because in Australia we don't tolerate
women being treated as second class citizens, we don't tolerate all sorts of cultural practices
that may be prevalent elsewhere in the world. Well exactly and you and I I think have known
long enough to trust we're broadly on the same side on this question, but I did a lot of work
late last year on the history of this dreadful, weak, limp concept called multiculturalism.
It came out of Canada, I suppose you're not surprised, it came from a lefty Prime Minister,
Pierre Trudeau, and it was enthusiastically picked up by Gough Whitlam and made our state
philosophy. It is hopeless, it is a joke, it's got no form or substance when you push underneath it,
and it gets down to the point of we all want the world to be a nicer place,
that is we just need a more realistic, hard-headed approach to migration, that's all it is,
that's all we're saying. I don't have a, I mean I don't distinguish between anybody on the grounds
of their colour or race, I would hope, but you know that's just not on the table here.
What is simply on the table is people need to have an overriding, wherever else they feel,
if they want to support Holland like our friend Andrew Bolt, I don't care, so long as they're
overriding number one loyalty is to this wonderful country that we chose to call home,
and I want to remain this to be the great country and become an even better country.
That's as simple as that, Rita, speaking as a migrant, if I may.
Well said, Nick Cater, thank you so much for your time tonight.
