FAIL FRIDAY 1968 GT500 Shelby KR Barn Find 1969 Pontiac GTO JUDGE

I don't even want to talk about... you approached it wrong. You must buy and sell them a lot but you approached that one wrong. You're talking about a guy that it may not matter because I may not live to the end of the week. I missed a real joke. That is awesome. Worldwide shipping is available on this cream puffer. What a great day to be alive. Once in a lifetime opportunity. Grab your cup of joe and let's go. All right guys we got something a little bit different today. Two fails on two great finds. Two cars that I tried to buy. We went and looked at them but we did not get them bought and sometimes that happens. We don't show that normally but these are two significant cars that we spent time on that failed. All right we're in gun barrel city Texas. Here's our finder here. We're gonna go and see if we can get permission to film this deal. How you doing sir? Michael Janis. Janis how you doing? Great sir. Good morning. How are you? Oh good morning. I'm still sick from the hospital. Sorry to hear that. Can we take pictures back there while we're back there looking at it? Yeah I guess. I mean I thought I was selling it and then you can take all the pictures you want. That's the plan. I must have misunderstood. No the plan is to us to make a deal and get it on the trailer and get you paid today. You know I love Shelby's and I think just about everybody in the muscle car world does and a KR is very significant. I was able to track the history of this car before I went and looked at it so I was confident what it was. It came out of Houston Texas and it's been up in the East Texas area for a long time. After I got there I realized I knew who the owner's dad was. He used to be a significant Mustang guy around Richardson Texas area where I grew up. So I don't know if it was you or your dad but y'all used to live over close to super shops. Yeah. And your dad would do body work on my Mustangs out of the garage there. Really? Yeah he'd come on the weekends he'd help me with some stuff. What kind of car? Mustangs 65 66 mainly. He would do body work? Well he showed me how to roll dents out of the rear valance out of the front valance without replacing them. A good friend of mine lived over there. He never ran a shop. No it wasn't a shop. Yeah. But he'd sell me parts out of the house. Yeah I bought parts out of your house there Richardson. Yeah. I knew it. There's just no way there could be this many Mustangs and I did not figure that out. It took me a minute. Yeah. Wheeler Wheeler Wheeler. He did a lot of stuff with Dallas Mustang as well. So there were Mustangs everywhere. So we wouldn't walk the property. I was gonna see if there's anything else could get thrown in there and get back to talk to the owner of the KR and as I listened more things came out about the car. But I made an offer on the car. Well I had an offer and Mike already blurted it out. I wouldn't have never told anybody but he blurted it out and it's okay. I had a guy that said he was gonna look at the car and then he made a decision. He was buying the car and I said well let me go down there and look at it one more time. He texted me in about 30 minutes and said he was being grieved by his wife and he couldn't buy the car. Buyer's remorse before he bought it. Yeah. I get it. Even though he just sold a Hemi car and a this and a that. So he he had the money to buy it or he says he did. It would have to either be bars of gold or cash. So would you cash today buy it? You mean less than what the other clown offered? Yeah well he didn't fall. He probably didn't know. It won't. It won't. I'm totally offended. Well I don't want to thank you very much. What does it take to buy it? Well. Well he immediately acted like he was offended. First of all a guy that has 50 or 60 cars on his property is technically a car dealer. So I shouldn't have gotten offended. But my offer was $5,000 less than I was told he had the car sold for and the guy backed out. So it certainly was an egregious low offer. So after going back and forth for a while a lot of this stuff is not going to be on camera because the guy got a little bit unusual if you will. I went back at that number. I said well I'll just you know how about I pay you what you had it sold for. He said well no you should have offered more than that. I don't even want to talk about you approached it wrong. You must buy and sell them a lot but you approached that one wrong. You're talking about a guy that it may not matter because I may not live to the end of the week. Well there's some other things about the car. If you look at the car there I think the car would have cleaned up. Obviously it hadn't been taken care of and where it is it's a disaster. It would have taken a lot of equipment to get it out. Probably couldn't even got it out that day. I mean it's going to take a forklift and everything else. But after listening to him I had a 427 in the car and he did not have the original 428 Cobra Jet motor which is 68 and a half R code. Cobra Jet motors are expensive. They're hard to find and if you have to gather one up from parts you're going to spend a ton of money and time. Now having a 67 GT500 with a 427 in it is perfectly acceptable to most people in the Shelby world. But having a 68 KR which what you're buying there is the motor and having 427 in it is not cool. Then after talking to him for a while I said the reason it was parked is that motor had an oiling problem. So we know right off the bat that 427 needs to come out. We need to gather up a proper date coded 428 Cobra Jet motor which we have done before. That is time consuming and expensive. I have followed up on that car and I have since then been offered that car by three different people. They didn't get it bought either and they're calling me on it. So we did not get that car bought. I don't know that we ever will but I'll keep on trying. Guess what time of the day it is Zach? What time? It's time to wake up and get ready for this 12 hour day. My short days are from 6 to 6 and my long days are from 6 to midnight or whenever. What has really helped me is Timeline. Two of these a day. Oh I need to smell good. Let me smell them. So Jeep's got to have fuel. Hot Rod's got to have fuel. Sports car's got to have fuel. Your body's got to have fuel. The mitochondria again is the powerhouse of the cell. MitoPure by Timeline is what unlocks that energy in your cells. I take two of these a day along with an inordinate amount of coffee. Of course my coffee tastes great but I'll have to say that the Timeline MitoPure tastes better. Two of these a day will keep you going. I'm 60 years old and I plan on running this harder for at least another 15 years. This has really helped me do it. When you turn my age you need some help but you need the horsepower. You've got to have power from your cells and the best way to unlock that is with MitoPure by Timeline. Get your mitochondria going. You've got to fuel the machines. You've got to fuel the body. Try the new MitoPure gummies for free using code GUMMIESGIFT or use my code COFFEEWALK for 20% off your first purchase using the link below. Next one we get a few pictures of and I requested multiple times can I have the VIN number and they never answered back with the VIN number. Kind of weird but whatever. The lead on 69GTO just came in from a friend of my wife and I that we've known forever who owns a foundation repair company is really really good at it. Honest guy. He just said it was a friend of the family you know sent him these pictures. He had to see it himself. All right we're in Pilot Point, Texas for 69GTO and we're hoping it's a judge. How are you? Good afternoon. Good afternoon. Hi Dennis Collins. Dennis nice to meet you. I'm Jenny. Hi Jenny. Wally's back here. What's going on? Hello Mr. Potts how are you? Good how are you doing? Good good. You busy as always? Yeah pretty busy. Well her mama's the final interest in it so I mean it's kind of up to her but I mean she'll negotiate through her mama so. Okay. Yeah. So I'm just going to go by what John told me real quick and he said that the family's on the car since 1970? Um yes since 1970. It looked cool. It's in a storage facility uh not too far from here so we didn't track across country and I felt like over the phone uh and talking to this lady's daughter very very nice to deal with it and we could put a deal together. Well the first thing I noticed in the pictures is it didn't have a Ram Air hood. All 69 judges whether it was Ram Air 3 or Ram Air 4 they were all Ram Air hood cars. A little odd. Enduro bumpers, fitment in the front's not very good um but this guy owned it since 1970. I was like hmm. Alex going to check the motor real quick. Manual brakes a little bit odd on a judge. Most of them were power brakes with disc brakes because you wanted to stop. Yeah. This is very unusual to see a so a bench seat four speed in a judge is very unusual. It's also got a base steering wheel. It does not have rally gauges. It doesn't have a hood tack which is also odd. So this is a later model stripe kit Alex which means this is a later model judge. If it's a judge and also the first 2000 cars did not have a judge emblem on the glove box. The the wing looked right on the back. Carousel red which is the most common color. Had all the judge emblems on it. Had the judge badge on the glove box which I think we're just on the later ones. They have no paperwork. The first thing we get we walk over to check on it is the motor. What do we got on the motor? What are you hoping for? WW. It's a WX. I'll take it. Okay. So WW would have been highly unlikely. WS is the most common power train in this car. Four speed. So WS is a manual transmission 366 horse Ram Air 3 four speed car. WX. WX are you sure? We want a WS. You can take a look. We don't want a WX. Somebody's looked at it too. Yeah. WX is not correct. Right off the back that's a tough pill to swallow because if you got to gather up a Ram Air 3 400 that can get quite expensive too if we're talking carbon pan. But on the other hand we walked right out and opened the trunk and the original Ram Air stuff for the hood off the original hood is in the trunk. I keep looking at the car I'm just like man it's just very odd for a judge to not have some of the cool options that the GTOs came with or some of the cool options that the judges came with i.e. hood tack, rally dash, sport steering wheel, AC, power steering, power brakes. This car didn't have any of that and it had a bench seat in it. Not unheard of but very odd. I can't ever remember seeing a judge with a bench seat. But looking at this car I'm scratching my head but we go around we open the trunk and it does have the right springs in the trunk. So in order to when you had a judge and you had the wing it had heavy duty springs to stay up. So and also it's got the correct holes. Now I mean it's like yeah definitely it's at least a judge decklid. So we get walk around the car and Alex pops his head up and says look at your phone because he didn't want to be rude. Oh wow. Okay so we take the trim tag it is TT carousel red. The VIN decodes as a GTO. We're not able to see the frame number because you got to take the body off the back. If I look inside it this car looks to me and I need a little bit more time to definitively say this but it looks to me that it was hit hard enough that it had had even the firewall was probably replaced. But you could clearly get underneath the car and see that it was clipped. Now in 1970 these were just cars. They made 6,725 judges in 69. So that's a ton of cars. So let's say this car was crashed in 69 or 70. Well there was probably another one in a wrecking yard somewhere that was crashed on the other other end because the panels that are on the car look like their original paint. It looks to me that two cars were morphed into one and the other car was probably a carousel red GTO. So it just had a basic hood. Now you know me I'll buy anything dead or alive. Diamonds in the rough. Buy them out of the field or in a barn. I'm thinking oh my gosh you know and obviously you got to disclose this stuff to the next guy and but I'm scratching my head. I'm just and I just it would be highly unlikely that this is a real judge and if I pay good money for it which I had already offered good money and I offered good money in my opinion after knowing all this stuff they turned it down. But the last thing I want to do is drag this thing back and find out that I just bought a cut in half almost no option 69 GTO. Now on the other hand if I get it home and go through the PHS Pontiac Historical Society Mr. Jim Madison and got the records to the car it'd be a win. Well I didn't have the VIN number when I had the pictures before I've tried for days to get it or I would have submitted it before I went out there. Well I got back the first thing I did was submit it. We got them first thing this morning which coffee walk airs tomorrow. Now and I think you Pontiac guys out there that have seen this or scratch your like man I highly doubt that's a judge. So we'll just start off it is a factory four-speed car so he will give you this this comes in a PHS pack which is really cool and he highlights how the car left the factory. It is four-speed and this was special on this car a 390 to 1 track lock posi xk code they called it Pontiac called a safety track you know Chevrolet's posi track WS code 400 four-barrel carousel red which we knew black and the seat codes 268 with an asterisk and that's for bench seat. So you got a bench seat four-speed judge with a really good gear 390 to 1. So looks to me somebody ordered this car because they wanted it lightweight they wanted to drag race it. Now here's what you really want to see we knew the car was built in Arlington the car was sold new in Neosho Missouri. Now the four-speed that's in it was an extra $184 it's because it's a four-speed close ratio transmission then it says axle special ordered was extra $2.11. Now this car had no rally gauges in it which really threw me off and no hood tack well it was a hood tack car so that explains that has been changed and then option four down the judge so i missed a real judge or half of one or three quarters of one i don't know depends how you look at it this is one of the lowest option build sheets i have ever seen on any Pontiac and this is a judge so learn something new every day you know if it had the right motor in it obviously i would have gone with it being a judge or something else but so yes i did call them back this morning to see if the car was still available and they said they had somebody driving in from a long ways from another state who is a collector of gto's to buy the car uh i hope he's got a flashlight but you never know that deal might unwind and we might still get it it still has value it's still cool i think we could have cleaned up that car what we would have done we brought it back here is we put a hood tack on it try to get some of the panel fitment better make the car run and drive and then you'd have a uh cheater judge i guess we would call that because this car's never going to be a real high-end car because i highly doubt you would ever find a matching numbers motor but you can certainly find a correct coded motor so that one failed too so there's two fails but they're two cool cars we're going to keep trying here's what i need you guys to do we need more leads social at cb jeep.com send us the cool stuff we're still looking for 911 porsches 356 porsches shelby mustangs for sure and we are on the hunt right now for a 67 gt 350 shelby in any condition blown apart wrecked rusted rolled over any condition you've got a 67 shelby gt 350 we will also consider very nice original cars but we need a 67 gt 350 soon so help us with that we really slowed down on the corvette buys this year we've kind of run low on leads we need 53 to 67 corvettes any condition and of course we're always looking for 76 to 86 jeep cj5s cj7s i need one more favor for everybody out there at coffee walk world as you know we love coffee and we've got a new flavor coming out for christmas we want you to help us name it if you name it we're going to send you a killer swag pack including coffee coffee mugs coffee walk shirts all that stuff so it has cinnamon brown sugar and vanilla in it what would you call that the most clever name that wins we're gonna send you a swag pack please post it thanks the egg tacks not that it's something crazy but i had philly cheesesteak omelet at the maybake cafe never had a philly cheesesteak sounds interesting you said ribeye he said he was slicing off a ribeye back there it's pretty good to me uh french toast and scramble everything that's in your hands i like it we gotta win yes all of that the kid's meal i just put all that on one plate and keep the dishwasher busy that's literally a side of hash brown we just leave that there and you can have my bread sean okay looks like you need some more bread i'm gonna make some sriracha on top of my uh hash browns a little ketchup a little tabasco dennis took my knife so i'll take your little pepper do we get another setup did i steal yours sean i did no i didn't maybe i didn't i don't know you did you have two knives here you go yeah i took yours all right see how that works the philly cheesesteak actually works you know i like it we'll do best buy ketchup tabasco pepper philly cheesesteak well the buy was a fail but the breakfast isn't this gluten is amazing good sean is all into gluten so they all send him all kinds of snacks have crazy amounts of gluten in it yeah see how long he can tolerate it well i got maybe five years left on me maybe zach you didn't get a burrito no i got an omelet you feeling okay no must be feeling bad or something no mac and cheese and no burrito that's unusual all right well we tried to go to bibo's burgers which is right down the road but they weren't open for lunch so we're at the corner cafe which had a really good rating let's go check it out all right so it looks like zach made the right call as far as looks yeah that looks good killer sandwich but i got my favorite for breakfast hamburger patty eggs over easy hash browns crispy crispy bacon so it's always a treat maybe you're a small town you use to find that thank you ma'am one sweet tea put that there to make it easier it's a really quick best buy feeling ketchup today that's what i'm talking about there's just something about a hamburger steak eggs over easy hash browns and bacon when it's all put together this requires two hands because you gotta get the bacon at the same time great start of the day see you guys next week coming up next week we're gonna do a full show of 1980 jeep cjs and just how special they are we're gonna go back through we've got roughly 120 cjs here and try to pull out all the ones that are actually in the brochure for the cj lineup in 1980 and go over those big changes and differences and things that came out in 1980 so if you're looking for 1980 this may be of some interest for you you're looking for one to restore we're going to pull some out that need to be restored and we've got some serviced and ready to go but 80 was a big pivotal year for the jeep cj so stay tuned for that next week and if you've got a 1980 for sale we would love to buy that thanks for watching our fails hope you enjoyed it i'm not going to say we enjoyed it a whole lot but you got to see it as always please like share and follow and most importantly subscribe to our youtube channel see you next week