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00:00 Unbelievable Florida Traffic Stop Analysis 03:05 Analyzing Pupil Dilation And Blink Rate 06:10 Identifying Short Horizon Lying Tactics 09:15 Media Propaganda Tactics Ground News 12:20 Clarification Delay And Buying Seconds 15:25 High Velocity Internal Dialogue Signs 18:30 Incremental Admission Of Guilt Loop 21:35 Hand To God Cosigner Strategy 24:40 Analyzing The Facade Of Confidence 27:45 Detecting Survival Brain Output Shifts 30:50 Identifying Lifestyle Versus Intentional Lies 33:55 Final Verdict Deceptive Negotiating Patterns
Today we're looking at some body cam footage that's unbelievable.
Greg, tell us about the videos we're going to watch.
Yeah, this is from Flagler County, Florida, so you know it's going to be a good one.
And this is a sheriff's office video of a traffic stop.
And if you want to see something really wild, hang on.
This guy might be sitting on something.
I don't understand what the problem is.
What do you keep reaching for in the car?
I'm not doing anything.
Okay, stop.
I'm sorry.
Okay.
Apologize.
All right.
That's like the first time you've reached inside the car.
I did not.
I just got out of the car.
Okay.
Do you have a medical marijuana card or anything like that?
Yes, I do.
Okay.
Hold on.
Without reaching for it.
Okay.
Do you have a medical marijuana on your person?
Pardon?
Do you have any medical marijuana on your person?
On my person?
Like in my pocket?
On your body?
Yes.
Okay.
That's what I'm asking.
Is it in the packaging?
No.
Am I here with you?
I can smell marijuana now.
Yeah.
Okay.
So you have marijuana in your pocket?
Yes.
In the packaging that comes from the dispensary?
Yes, sir.
In the dispensary packaging?
Yes, sir.
Okay.
Are you okay if I remove that?
It's not in the dispensary packaging.
That's what I just asked and you said yes.
I said I had a medical marijuana license or a card.
Okay.
All right.
Because now that I'm out here with you, you reek of marijuana, okay?
So do me a favor.
Just put your hands right here for me, okay?
And you were moving around a lot.
Come on, man.
Put your hands up here.
All right.
Put your hands up here.
Don't take them off the card.
Do you understand?
Yes, sir.
Went back there.
You kept digging under your body when I was watching you.
I was pulling that beer out.
Just search him real quick, man.
Oh my God.
I don't have any guns, weapons, anything like that.
What is it?
Cigarettes?
Yes.
I'm just going to take them out, okay?
For anything else in there?
No.
Wow.
Wait, I'll think about that.
Well, I don't think his brain's in the conversation at all.
I agree with you.
You know, the first indicator, I talk fast and I usually watch these videos on two times
the speed.
I could not watch it on two times the speed and understand what the hell he was saying.
He's already on two times speed.
Yeah.
It's a combination of things he's doing there.
He's doing the thing like, I don't know what's going on.
What's happening here?
What have I done?
He's doing that thing while he's just pitifully trying to hide what's happening.
Because you know two seconds in, there's something wrong here.
Something's not right.
So first of all, I'm going to give a shout out to Axon for entertaining the world and
coming up with the Axon.
Thank you, Axon.
Great company.
Great company, by the way.
They make other stuff other than the Axon camera, but they really have created a whole
stream of entertainment.
But yeah, he says that whole thing of, do you have medical marijuana on your person?
Pardon?
So you instantly know, you heard the question.
Everybody heard the question.
Pardon is like, that's just a blaring, a loud red flag, Chase, as we call it.
Very loud, audible red flag.
And one of the, this is one of the best examples.
We always tell you when somebody's feeling real stressed, they don't blink and their
pupils, their drugs probably have something to do with his pupil dilation.
But that threat check and that lack of blink rate, even under this much, whatever substance
he's on, is crazy.
It's just showing you a great example of something we always talk about.
And we see this constantly.
So it's somebody, they cannot stay present because they're mentally managing something
that we are not supposed to see or know about.
So their attention's just totally fractured.
There's somebody, they're somewhere else.
Yeah.
So if you see somebody who can't hold still in a moment that should be relatively simple,
they're running, they have two tabs open and they're both running at full speed.
And that's what we're seeing.
It's the inner dialogue that's going on to protect what he's got in the car or the
situation that's happening.
And so we always see this in a really tiny version of it.
Whereas here, it's huge.
This is about as big as I've seen in a long time.
Well, and if you think about that mind, brain and body, the mouth, brain and body all doing
the same thing, his isn't.
It's very clear that his brain is, to your point, look at thinking in the car, his mouth
is trying to cover this story and his body's doing all kinds of crazy stuff.
That one sentence he put together, they say monkeys could type anything, given enough
time on a typewriter, that'd take about four minutes for a monkey to figure out that string
of words.
Talking of writing, here's one of the clues for me.
So you get that clarification at the start.
Harden, because it wants to hear it again.
Then you get repetition on my person and that.
So here's my rule.
If it's starting to sound like a Seinfeld script or a Chris Voss negotiation, they're
like this constant repetition.
Repeat the last thing that somebody said to give yourself some time to come up with that
answer or chase, as you're saying, like run that code in the background going, hang on,
I'm managing this other thing over here.
Pardon?
I'll repeat the last thing that was said.
And that repetition is something that in a lot of this training you'll hear called a
clarification delay.
He's not confused about this.
A golden retriever would probably understand it on your person.
So he's buying seconds.
So this other tab running in the background has some little processing power.
You're going to see this in negotiations and interviews all over the place.
Somebody repeats your question when it was very simple, like a really simple one.
So that's computing versus clarifying.
So that's how I would say it.
Did he say I was digging for a beer?
Is that what he said?
Yeah.
I think so.
Yeah.
It doesn't help.
Yeah.
It doesn't.
But it is a lesser, potentially a lesser crime.
Let me confess to looking for a beer rather than having crack.
What's interesting is how he doesn't look comfortable, but he's comfortable around the
cops.
So I'm sure they know instantly this isn't his first time talking to police because there's
a line you don't cross.
And even if it is your first time, you've done something you're not supposed to and
you're a loud mouth and all that, that's one thing.
But the comfort this guy shows with doing that is incredible.
I mean, he's all jacked up, but he's at ease going over those lines, over the red lines
of those guys.
But at the same time as negotiating some of the terms as well, because even on my person,
as you rightly say, Chase, as a clarification, is also a potential negotiation of like, well,
would it be okay on my person rather than is it in the car or have I left it at home
or, and this continues in the next one.
The negotiation is huge.
Well, and look, the squirrel, he's trying to distract with everything else.
God knows what's in the car.
We don't see that yet.
This guy might be sitting on something.
I understand what the problem is.
What do you keep reaching for?
I'm not doing anything.
Okay, stop.
I'm sorry.
Okay.
Apologize.
All right.
That's like the first time you've reached inside.
I just got out of the car.
Okay.
Do you have a medical marijuana card or anything like that?
Yes, I do.
Okay.
Hold on.
Without reaching for it.
Okay.
Do you have a medical marijuana on your person?
Pardon?
Do you have any medical marijuana on your person?
On my person?
Like in my pocket?
On your body?
Yes.
Okay.
That's what I'm asking.
Is it in the packaging?
Am I here with you?
I can smell marijuana now.
Yeah.
Okay.
So you have marijuana in your pocket?
Yes.
In the packaging that comes from the dispensary?
In the dispensary packaging?
Yes, sir.
Okay.
Are you okay if I remove that?
It's not in the dispensary packaging.
That's what I just asked and you said yes.
I said I had a medical marijuana license or a card.
Okay.
All right.
Because now that I'm out here with you, you reek of marijuana, okay?
So do me a favor.
Just put your hands right here for me, okay?
And you were moving around a lot.
Come on, man.
No, put your hands up here.
All right.
Put your hands up here.
Don't take them off the card.
Do you understand?
Yes, sir.
Back there, you kept digging under your body when I was watching you.
I was pulling that beer out.
Just search him real quick, man.
Oh, my God.
I don't have any guns, weapons, anything like that.
What is this?
Cigarettes?
Yes.
I'm just going to take them out, okay?
For anything else in there?
No.
Get your hand up there.
I'm sorry.
Put your hand on the car, okay?
Don't take your hands off the car.
I apologize.
Do you understand?
He already said it's not in the container anyway.
So just, yeah.
Put your hands right here.
Okay.
You're being detained for your safety, okay?
You understand?
All right.
Yes.
Okay.
I'm sorry.
The whole time you were in the car, you were digging around.
You kept dropping your hand underneath you, okay?
We don't know if you're going for a weapon or what.
I wasn't.
Now that you're out of the vehicle, you smell the marijuana, okay?
Yes.
You said that you don't have any marijuana in dispensary packaging.
Right.
Okay?
Yeah.
So that's where we're at, okay?
Right.
Yeah.
When you get carried, it needs to be in its prescription label bottle.
The mainstream media is not broken at all.
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It exists to manipulate you, to divide you,
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I've spent years studying propaganda and psychological operations and human behavior.
And I will tell you this plainly.
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It's here to shape your truth without you even realizing it.
Every network, every outlet, left or right or center, they are all playing the exact
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Okay.
Just like you get it.
Yes.
That does not look like marijuana.
Huh?
That, that, that.
It's meth.
That is not meth.
I swear to God.
Are you serious?
That is not meth.
That is not ******* meth.
That is not mine.
It came out of your pocket.
No, it didn't.
Oh my God.
That did not come out of your pocket.
Oh my God.
You've got to be kidding me.
Don't put that up there.
Oh my God.
Let's walk back here.
No, don't put it on God.
I did not.
That is not mine.
He said, don't bring God into this.
Therefore, I wouldn't dare do that.
Where's your, where's your medical marijuana card at?
It's in my, in my wallet.
In your wallet?
Is it valid?
Pardon?
Is it valid?
Um, well, not, not the, uh, not, not the, uh, not the ID.
Now your medical marijuana card is not valid.
No, not, not the, not the card.
The card isn't valid.
So you don't have a valid medical marijuana card.
I do have a valid miracle.
Yes.
I just asked you.
I said the card wasn't the card.
Isn't.
What does that mean?
If it's okay, that it's, it's an old card is basically what I'm trying to say.
Do you have a newer card or no?
Correct.
When I checked the marijuana dispenser, you're going to be on it.
Yeah.
And valid.
Yeah.
Are you sure?
Yes.
Holy smoke.
I want to go.
I want to go first here.
This is something I've written about called short horizon lying.
So every single one of his answers to these people is engineered to survive
the next 10 seconds only of the conversation.
That's all it's designed to do.
There was no strategy, no coherent through line.
So each lie just manufactures this brand new, uh, liability that needed
another pie to cover it.
And every correction has to be louder than the last one.
Like I am making this up in real time is what's really happening.
Yeah.
That's, that's, that's good because what, you know, I've got one thing to say on this,
which is his level of anger is actually quite good for somebody who might be telling the truth.
Cause he gets angry and he gets more angry.
He gets more angry, but then, and you could easily go, okay,
well, fair enough.
Maybe there's some truth.
There's some honesty here because he's getting quite upset at the unfairness of it,
but there's drugs involved.
Clearly drugs can get you a little bit, a bit angry, but also chase to your point.
He's having to escalate each time.
So again, it's like another Seinfeld script.
You have to escalate and escalate and escalate and repeat and escalate,
repeat and escalate until you are in this bizarro world in the end,
it won't let you anywhere else.
And I'll say one more thing is that what I love about this is that you've on these
body cams, you've got the time on there.
So when we come to our next video, I'm going to be able to tell
exactly how long he's been able to be angry or not for body cams came out.
And I remember thinking, there's no way they're going to have a camera on everybody.
That's going to be so tough.
Where's that going to come from?
What's that going to look like?
How are you going to keep up with all that?
Now it's everybody's got one, you know, it's not that big.
Chase, what you're talking about, I always called incremental admission of guilt.
What he's doing is cascading and it's kind of eroding the ground under him as he goes.
And he does it more than one time.
But my favorite line ever in any of these videos we've ever seen is,
that's not meth, that's not meth, that's not meth, that's not mine.
It's just beautiful.
And then he goes on to do the same thing.
Well, I have a medical marijuana card.
I don't know what he says, something like that.
But is the date good?
No, the date's not good.
So incremental admission of guilt.
He walks himself right into it.
It's beautiful.
It's just perfect.
Well, in this situation, you know, they're obviously watching body language.
They may not be watching to the specifics we do, unless we've trained them specifically.
I don't know these guys.
But one thing we don't see, I think they know he's not going to run.
I think they're afraid he might turn around and start biting him or something.
But when you see a runner, you'll see that they'll get quiet and they'll turn around
and they'll start looking around for where they're going to run to.
Not here.
This guy's not doing that.
He's looking down and constantly turning around on him, trying to talk to him.
So I'm afraid, I think what they're concerned is that he'll turn around and start swinging
or something.
Did you catch the matching?
I mean, boom.
Oh my God.
10-4.
He turned to a cop.
It's just beautiful.
He knows he's in a bind.
He is.
Yes, I have a valid card.
Check the dispensary.
I'll be on it.
So he bet everything on a bluff they could verify in 30 seconds on a laptop.
That's what I'm talking about.
That short horizon.
And he puts it on God.
This is called bringing in a cosigner.
You know, I put it on my kids.
That's beautiful.
On my wife, you know, all this.
This is, he's bringing in somebody to cosign.
And in his head, I wonder if he thinks that one of the officers is going to be like, wait a minute.
Sir, are you serious?
And he goes, yeah.
I'm like, all right, boys.
Come on, uncuff him.
I think what's happened there.
And the reason he does that is because of the people he deals with every day that he's hanging
around because he can say, you don't believe me?
Check it out, man.
Go look into it.
They don't have any place to look into it because they're meth heads, you know?
So he's expecting them to act the same way as his friends do, the people he hangs out with.
He thinks he can do something like that.
It will hold that weight, but it has no weight behind it.
Because all you do is go to the car and look.
Yeah.
It means that the whole hand to God thing must work for him.
In enough situations that he goes, well, I'll bring in God.
And then they'll go, oh, well, sorry.
Yeah.
Hand to God.
Well, that's supposed to be the last word.
On your children or on God.
Right.
When you're a cloister with a bunch of druggies.
Is everybody comfortable with seeing Greg's head this big?
I could see it bigger.
I could manage it a lot bigger.
Okay.
I'm just making sure.
Because this is the biggest it's ever been on the show.
It's huge.
I had the biggest head here, but his is way bigger than mine.
One picture.
One shot.
Different camera.
Yep.
Get your hand up there.
Put your hand on the car.
Okay.
Don't take your hands off the car.
I apologize.
Kerry said it's not in the container anyway.
So just, yeah.
You're being detained for your safety.
You understand?
All right.
Yes.
Okay.
I'm sorry.
The whole time you're in the car, you're digging around.
You kept dropping your hand underneath you.
Okay.
We don't know if you're going for a weapon or what.
I know.
I wasn't.
Now that you're out of the vehicle, you smell the marijuana.
Right.
Yes.
You said that you don't have any marijuana in dispensary packaging.
Right.
Okay.
Yeah.
So that's where we're at.
Okay.
Right.
Yeah.
When you get carried, it needs to be in his prescription label bottle.
Okay.
Just like you get it.
Yes.
What is it?
That does not look like marijuana.
Huh?
That, that, that.
That is not math.
I swear to God.
Are you serious?
That is not math.
That is not ******* math.
That is not mine.
It came out of your pocket.
No, it didn't.
Oh, my God.
That did not.
Oh, my God.
You gotta be kidding me.
Don't put that up there.
Oh, my God.
No, don't put it on God.
I did not.
That is not mine.
He said, don't bring God into this.
I wouldn't dare do that.
Where's your, where's your medical marijuana card at?
It's in my, in my wallet.
In your wallet?
Is it valid?
Pardon?
Is it valid?
Um, well, not, not the, uh, not, not the, not the ID.
No.
Your medical marijuana card is not valid?
No, not, not the, not the card.
The card isn't valid.
So you don't have a valid medical marijuana card?
I do have a valid miracle.
Yes.
I just asked you.
I said the card wasn't the card.
Isn't.
What does that mean?
If it's okay, that it's, it's an old card is basically.
Okay.
So do you have a newer card or no?
Right.
When I checked the marijuana dispenser, you're going to be on it.
Yeah.
And valid.
Yeah.
Are you sure?
Yes.
It's right there.
Okay.
But just like a prescription.
Okay.
Yeah, bro.
That's a chunk of meth right off a freaking block.
Look at that.
What do you mean, dude?
I've been doing this 19 years.
You don't think I know what meth looks like?
I'm sure you do.
I'm not saying that you don't, come on, man.
It came out of your pocket.
I do not do meth.
That is not my *******, uh.
Are those your pants?
These are my, of course.
Yeah.
Oh, I was just asking.
I was just asking if they were your pants.
He can't, he can't possess it.
Christian, highly.
Or are you going to get a medical marijuana card?
Are you kidding?
I do.
You haven't had one since, you haven't had one since 2022.
My, uh, I swear to you, my, uh, my wife.
I just looked on the dispensary database.
You haven't had one since 2022.
Four years.
Really?
Yeah, really.
And you're not allowed to possess it.
The street.
No.
What?
Where'd I get that?
I got that from a friend.
Uh, what do you call it?
Who has a medical marijuana?
It doesn't work that way.
Well, and they've, they've never, you've never heard of someone like, uh, giving another,
you know, another person.
We hear about all the time, but it's illegal.
But it's illegal.
All right.
He wants to go first.
Well, so to my point, he's only managed to sustain the anger for three minutes.
So if he was really angry, he should be able to go for way over three minutes.
He should be able to hit.
And maximum, but, but he's, it's all he's lost the energy for it.
My first notes is I think he forgot to remember to intelligently deconflict his
lies because all he's doing is compounding the punishment that you bought weed from
somebody who owned it legally.
Okay.
That's still illegal.
I bought, I've used, I get beer in the car, open container.
Okay.
There's another one.
And I've got this meth on me that I don't know where it came from.
So he just keeps piling them up and chase to your point about earlier about incremental
and when, whatever you call the initial version of what you were saying, that whole idea that
when somebody is walking across that way, they talk themselves into corners all the
time because they don't think about that cascade gets much heavier than the original lie.
Especially when you don't go after their lead.
They're like, Oh, it was a beer.
And he's hoping the customer, wait, you got beer in there.
Let me, I'm going to, I'm going to redirect all my attention towards that beer.
Yep.
Yeah.
They have to redirect with another illegal substance.
Smart move.
Yeah.
But the thing is, the more you try to confuse everybody and get everybody worked up, the
more he thinks he has a shot of getting out of that.
That's what he's used to doing.
From the people he hangs out with, I think.
Yeah.
Cause if he goes, Hey, you know, I've got beer over there.
Everybody in his crowd, they probably go, Oh, let's go and have a look at the beer.
And you know, the chaff and redirect does work probably in the majority of his life.
Have you guys noticed this?
Greg always says, you know, the fish tastes like a monkey redirecting on dance floor.
Did you notice that when he's looking away from the threat,
his blink rate goes through the roof.
When he's looking.
Yes.
It is so good.
And it's, I'm glad that body cams have gotten up to 4k.
Thank you, Scott.
Remember that?
Yeah.
That was, that was not last one, but the one before.
Yep.
I did.
Crime Con is going to be so much fun this year.
I can't wait to get there.
Panelists will be at Crime Con.
Yeah.
Oh yeah.
So if you're interested in Crime Con, please come out.
We're going to have the best time.
Come find us.
Love to catch up and talk.
But the first, was it the first time we went?
People showed up with those.
Or was it, you couldn't.
Chase couldn't be there.
The second time.
They came with their own cards.
The people came with their own Chase used.
Yeah.
So I got one.
Remember we put one in the chair?
Yeah.
And then I tucked one in, put it on Instagram.
It gave probably just as good an analysis.
I think that's what everybody was saying.
It's not bad actually.
Yeah.
They give you feedback.
That's what they said.
I've got better feedback than you the first time around.
Yeah.
Because I mean, look at that picture.
It's adorable.
Look at that.
You remember the lady who came up who was stage fright
and she held that in front of her face and sat between us?
Yeah.
Bless her heart.
It was very cool.
Should I just stick this back here somewhere so it's always there?
Yeah, stick it back there.
Yes.
Yeah.
I think it might do that.
Yeah.
What a good friend does.
I'm going to do it.
It's right there.
Okay.
But just like a prescription.
Okay.
Yeah.
Bro, that's a chunk of meth right off a freaking block.
Look at that.
What do you mean, dude?
I've been doing this 19 years.
You don't think I know what meth looks like?
I'm sure you do.
I'm not saying that you don't, Doug.
Come on, man.
It came out of your pocket.
I do not do meth.
That is not my *******...
Are those your pants?
These are my...
Of course, yeah.
Oh, I was just asking.
I was just asking if they were your pants.
He can't possess it.
Christian Hiley.
Bro, you ain't got no medical marijuana card.
Are you kidding?
I do.
You haven't had one since 2022.
I swear to you, my wife...
I just looked on the dispensary database.
You haven't had one since 2022.
Four years.
Really?
Yeah, really.
And you're not allowed to possess it.
Where did you get your weed from?
The street.
Yeah, exactly.
No, what?
Where'd I get that?
I got that from a friend.
Asked me from a dispensary.
What do you call it?
Who has a medical marijuana?
Where do you...
It doesn't work that way.
People that have a medical marijuana card usually get their weed...
Well, and they've never...
You've never heard of someone like giving another...
You know, another person...
Oh, we hear about it all the time, but it's illegal.
But it's illegal.
All right, do me a favor.
Handle this stuff in your hand.
Yeah.
Uh-oh, Stacey's looking hard at me opening this little pill bottle.
No, I'm not.
Oh, Stacey!
Oh, you're under arrest, Stacey.
Oh, my God.
You got meth on you too, Stacey.
What?
In her pill bottle, in her hand.
Ask us if we're shocked.
This is my shocked face.
Nope.
And guess what, Stacey?
We're going to seize your car for forfeiture as well, okay?
Oh, my God.
Oh, my God is right.
It sounds like she's lost a game at a party or something.
Yeah.
It is like a bit of a game show going on here.
And though drugs is a horrific thing, and you want nobody to be involved in it.
And all kinds of things could have gone on in these people's lives.
At least every...
Certainly those last...
The last video is...
Everybody's doing their best within the situation
to kind of make light of it and make a bit of a game show out of it.
Because it could be a very heavy situation.
And everybody's actually kind of having a bit of fun.
She's smiling the whole time.
That's the odd part.
Yeah, she is.
But then again, it goes back to being a game.
You know what I mean?
Yeah.
The cat and mouse game, you call it me.
And she knows she's going to do a little time, you know, a day or so.
And then she's going to be out again.
That's probably not that big a deal for how much she has or whatever.
Yeah.
Let me call Susan again, get her to go feed the cats.
Maybe it's the last time.
This is another good example of something we say all the time.
When people are concerned about what you think, their eyes lock on you.
He calls her out on it.
He calls her out on, look how hard she's looking at me.
That romance or whatever we want to call it.
That hard eye contact.
I love that.
Because this has got a lot of really good examples of what we preach all the time.
Yeah.
He's doing his own commentary to his own web.
His own cam footage.
He's doing his own, doing his own YouTube show.
Stand up.
I thought it was interesting.
There was no fear with her at all.
Not even a little bit.
She wasn't afraid of getting caught.
Well, that goes back to the game theory.
But still, when you think about that, that's kind of weird.
You know, well, maybe she's all jacked up on meth or something.
Yeah.
I would imagine so.
That's what I was talking about in the last video.
You can see the exact same thing here.
There is zero through line in their head.
No through line.
No coherent thought process of like, in two hours, this is where I'm going to be.
It's just this little 10 minute compartment that they're thinking in.
I think you're taking part.
Yeah.
But do you think, Chase, that is drugs or a certain type of liar?
That's the cheapest pin I've ever seen you hold.
It is.
It's from the Wyndham Garden.
The question was, do you think this kind of short term thing is due to the drugs or just
due to a certain style of lying or potentially both or something else?
I think it's a lifestyle.
Right.
Because they'll be this close to the termination of their lease at an apartment somewhere
and haven't started looking for another place yet.
And then at the lease date, they'll be like, hey, where are we going to live?
You can't kick us out right now.
You're going to have to call the sheriff.
You have to file an eviction.
I don't think there's a lot of foresight.
And Chase, I think it's probably some chicken and egg there, right?
People who get in that situation get good at doing whatever it is.
Yeah.
And it cascades and turns into their normal lifestyle.
Yeah.
I think it's become cyclical and it's hard for them to get out of it.
Yeah.
It's like we always talk about people having two personalities.
If they're drug users and they're hiding it from people.
Yeah.
The one for real grouchy one.
Then a real fun one.
So that's bad.
All right.
Do me a favor.
Handle the stuff in your hand.
Oh, Stacy's looking hard at me opening this little pill bottle.
No, I'm not.
Oh, Stacy.
Oh, you're under arrest, Stacy.
Oh, my God.
You got meth on you too, Stacy.
Ask us if we're shocked.
This is my shocked face.
Nope.
And guess what, Stacy?
We're going to seize your car for forfeiture as well.
Okay.
Oh, my God.
Oh, my God is right.
All right.
This has been pretty interesting.
Mark, what do you think so far?
Yeah.
Interesting pattern right at the start there.
Clarification, repetition, negotiation.
That's a good sequence for going.
Hang on.
I think we've got a few pork pies coming up here.
Yeah.
So nice to see it so clearly there.
Shame people are on these drugs and I hope they get themselves clean, Chase.
I learned today that British people pronounce both drugs and maths as singular nouns.
Drugs and maths.
Yeah.
So let me talk to you here watching this.
Here's what I want you to take from this.
You're probably not going to be standing on the side of some highway somewhere pulling
some dude out of a car like this, but you are going to sit across from somebody, a client,
partner, whatever, negotiation of some kind, and their story is going to start shifting.
And it won't be dramatic like this, but it's just enough that you notice.
Maybe the clarification delays, the edited answers, like emotional performances,
all of this kind of stuff.
What you're watching is somebody who's thinking has gone offline
and survival brain is like in the driver's seat for that time.
So they're planning.
That's what I want you to think.
There's something being planned in addition to what they're saying here.
So they build exactly what you just saw.
But now you know what it looks like.
From a crazy video in Florida, now you know this applies elsewhere in your life.
Greg?
Yeah.
I think this is a good example of when your mouth, your brain,
and your body can't get the story together.
And it's probably because the person's having to number one,
think on the fly and adjust for everything that's going on around him in the car.
And that without good information about what the outcome will be,
if he does it poorly and without the capacity to function normally.
But the other good thing about this thing is we see really good examples of what we tell you,
that when people have eye lock with someone,
that's because they're trying to cover up and make sure how that's being perceived.
Also, you get the chance to see the person dancing around
and doing incremental admission of guilt or their story falling apart.
And if you're talking to anybody and their story just keeps changing as they go,
you probably have a person like this, maybe not an influence of drugs.
Scott, what do you got?
I like this one because it gives you an insight into another social
system or almost a little society on its own, you know, because it's the drug world.
And you see how those people act and interact not only with each other,
but with the cops and how at ease they are doing that.
Now, if we got, well, we know cops, so we wouldn't feel that way.
But a person who's not used to being around and was in trouble,
they say might get in trouble.
It's going to be a completely different scene.
They're going to be quiet and try and find out what's going on.
And did they do something wrong?
What was it?
It wasn't me and all that, but not here.
There's no fear there at all of saying, except for getting caught.
But I mean, there's no fear of the interaction with them.
So, and when we see that fear of the interaction with a person,
with a person at work or in this situation, the druggie and the cops,
that tells you a lot about what's going on, who's in charge, who isn't, all those kinds of things.
And again, it's seeing though, you'll see this in the real world,
but you'll see a really tiny version of this.
When somebody gets up in their head and they have inner dialogue going on,
they're talking, trying to work things out, work the problem out,
make sure everything's okay before they start speaking.
So I really, I really liked this.
I think it was a really good one.
All right, fellas, there's another good one and we'll see you next time.
Cutting, cutting stuff.
Cutting what?
Steak?
Well, I frame stuff.
Oh, you frame, yeah.
For doing framing and, you know, generally and measuring stuff.
I like to measure.
What are you going to measure?
Tell me the last thing you use that thing for.
I want to know.
Well, yeah, I mean, I've been cutting this, you know, this framing.
Oh, okay.
So you get this as well.
What do you got, an art department over there?
Pretty much, yeah.
Mark is pretty artsy.
Yeah, what I do is I find old frames on the side of the,
people throw out the most incredible frames.
Here we go.
Most incredible frames, you pick them up, you get,
and then you cut your glass and you cut your mounting board with it.
And yeah, I've got, I mean, I've got so much artwork that needs framing.
Yeah, you have real art though.
And you're sticking, what's his name?
You know, what's the guy with the kid with the flower?
Banksy.
So you're throwing a Banksy in that damn thing?
Well, the last ones I did were a couple of Banksy's.
A die-faced tenor.
That's what I'm saying.
Yeah.
You have real art, you know.