Clinton's Cave: Epstein Testimony Begins for Hillary and Bill Clinton

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Lawrence Jones speaks with Jonathan Turley about Hillary and Bill Clinton's depositions in the Jeffrey Epstein probe. They discuss the Clintons' initial defiance, Bill's relationship with Epstein and why charges haven't been filed.
So this morning, Hillary Clinton is in the hot seat as she's scheduled to sit for a closed door
deposition in the House probe of Jeffrey Epstein. Tomorrow is Bill Clinton's turn. He's the first
former president ever compelled to testify in a congressional investigation against his will
as they risk being held in contempt if they don't cooperate. Fox News contributor and
best-selling author of Rage in the Republic, Jonathan Turley, joins us now. I guess, Jonathan,
from a legal perspective, if you could boil down the inquiry here from the House,
what are they looking to get from the Clintons on record?
Well, Lawrence, it's a great question. The first thing is they're trying to get the Clintons on
record. I mean, the fact is that the Clintons stood in open defiance of congressional subpoenas.
They just didn't show up, and they didn't have any real legal reason for it other than
we don't want to do it. And what happened was that Democrats joined Republicans and moved to
hold both of them in contempt. And right before that vote, the Clintons finally shrugged and said,
well, OK. And so now we're going to have these depositions. Obviously, most attention is with
Bill Clinton, who was on this plane of Epstein at least 16 times. There are some very embarrassing
photos that have come out in these files. But today, Hillary Clinton will face some equally
difficult questions when it comes to their global initiative and foundation. Epstein seems to have
played a role in helping the Clintons in that area. And also, Hillary Clinton had a relationship
with Maxwell. And while both of them have tried to distance themselves as all of these files came
out, Maxwell was invited to her daughter's wedding. So this was not a arm's length relationship.
I guess, professor, and you've been on the criminal defense side of this, the Justice
Department job is to charge people, not release things that are embarrassing to people. And so
I'm struggling to understand if there is such damning information, why not charge people
instead of releasing dossiers? You know, Lawrence, that is a very good question. And I've written
about this, that I am uncomfortable with the degree to which grand jury material has been
released. You have hundreds of people have been swooped up because they're mentioned in these
files. There's a reason why we have grand jury secrecy. There's a reason why we have investigation
files that are not made public, because you sort of vacuum up a huge amount of stuff.
And it can create this public trial without a real chance to defend yourself in court.
The Clintons have not been charged. The committee is not accusing them of criminal conduct.
But they are going to be looking at how Epstein did what he did for so long. He had very powerful
friends, and he was able to escape serious repercussions for much of this period. And
they're going to ask the Clintons about that, when they knew about these allegations, what they did
about it, and also how they may have used Epstein's connections for their own benefit.
So with the 30 seconds I have left, Professor, do you think the issue with the Epstein files is
statute of limitations? Is there a lack of evidence why they haven't charged people?
Because I just worry about the system of government that is okay with releasing information
without the charges. Is it just a precedent thing going on right here, where they don't have
enough? That's exactly right, Lawrence. And if you take Bill Clinton as a good example, you've got
these pictures and hot tubs and these many flights, records showing him with Epstein.
But there's no direct evidence that he was involved with any of these underage girls.
And that's the lack of evidence that stopped a lot of investigators.
Copy that. Professor, thank you so much for all that knowledge.
Thank you, Lawrence.
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