The Pebble Beach of Muscle Cars MCACN 2025

All right, so we're here with Mr. Wayne Carini, one of my mentors and a legend. I think I can call you a friend at this point, right? We're great friends. Okay. Not just a friend, great friends. That is awesome. Worldwide shipping is available on this cream puffer. What a great day to be alive. Once in a lifetime opportunity. Runs hard. Wow. Outstanding. So grab your cup of joe and let's go. We're in Chicago and here's what's cracking and macaquing. We're gonna go find out, right Jean-Pete? Oh, macaquing. It's cracking a lot. Is the LS6 here? Yeah. Some of the rarest, finest muscle cars on the planet. Some of the best restored Corvettes in the world. But my favorite class is the Survivor. Barn Fights. Let's go. Extraordinary. All right, so you guys remember we did a show with Red Dirt Mopars. Bought a killer CJ from him. He's big into wind cars. Yep. Right. Had a few of those. And Hemi cars. Yep. He is a master at chasing down some of the rarest Mopars out there. I appreciate that. What's your favorite Mopar of the show? I haven't even been in there yet. Really? I haven't been in there yet. Have you looked at this one yet? Just now. Don't. He's killing it. He's great on camera. I just got here. One of the main reasons we're here is there are so many Holy Grail cars that you would never see in your life ever. So we're going to try to get as many as we can on the show. I've been doing this for 40 years. The cars that the once-in-a-lifetime finds end up here every year at MCAC. And check this out. It's rougher than a stucco bathtub, but I love it. Factory meals are here. We get them every week. Always fresh. Never frozen. This is how they arrive to you. So I'm about two years into this. It is so much better than 80s fast food. We're always on the go here. Truffle Butter Chicken and Mushroom Risotto. Chimichurri Pork Tenderloin. Smoky Gouda Macaroni and Shredded Beef. Exactly like that one. Ginger Teriyaki Salmon. Smoked Gouda Cream Meatballs. Roasted Garlic Chicken. I'm going to go for the Truffle Butter Chicken and Mushroom Risotto. Just help me eat right, feel right, act right. Head to Factor75.com or click the link below and use COFFEEWALKFB50 like FactorBox to get 50% off your first FactorBox plus free breakfast for one year. That's code COFFEEWALKFB50 at Factor75.com to get 50% off plus free breakfast for a year. That's good stuff, Mater. Factor75. Real quick because I think this is very important. We're calling this as day two cars. Yeah, so you bought a new muscle car in 69, Cobo Camaro. Right. What do you do when you got home? Do you leave it stock? You know, emissions control, diverter valve, manifolds. No, you ripped all that off. Yeah, no, you went to super shops. Right, you went and got headers and you took the smog off and you got a three barrel Holley and you put mags on it and traction bars. We celebrate super cars, tuner cars, all that stuff. I mean, that's what Baldwin Motion did. That's what Yanko did. That's what Dickie Harrell did. That's what they did. But people consider those day one cars, right? Right, right. So day two cars. Well, they're day one, but they're super cars. Correct. So they kind of blend it. What's kind of a drag is for many, many years, we were unwinding that. Exactly, exactly. You got to find the smog pump. You got to find the manifolds. You put it all back on. You drive it in the trailer. You drive it out of the trailer and it wheezes and it's not loud. You don't enjoy it. And then people start saying, wait a second, you know, I had this car in 74. I want to be like that. Tuned and running right. I mean, super car reunion. I used to go to the super car reunion every year. We'd restore a car. You bring it there, a Yanko Camaro with manifolds on or something and run a 15 second quarter mile and you're like, yeah, the vehicle. Right. Power stroke, diesel pickup truck. You towed it there, but it was faster. So then you tune it, you make it right. So, I mean, that's really what McCacken's all about. We celebrate the way the car should be. The survivor cars, the vintage certification. I mean, my 65 Shelby's here. I put 70,000 miles on it. I'll never restore it. That's incredible. You know, you got to use these cars. Well, you guys ready to go for a tour? You got time? Of course I got time. Hey, thanks for coming back. Let's hit it. So, Fred Gibbs, what was great about them is they kept documents on all their cars. Right. Huge, right? Yes. Yeah, I mean. Was this a Fred Gibb Nova? Well, we know if it was or not definitively. And that's the thing. Yanko and Gibb kept good records. You know who didn't? Baldwin Motion. You know, the Baldwin Motion cars, for years, it was a little tricky to figure out what was real and what wasn't. And a bunch of the other tuner guys like, you know, Scuzio, which some people say I pronounced that wrong, but they did a lot of day one stuff. Right, right. I mean, their shop knew how to tune the cars, make them run right, but they didn't really keep records of that. No, I mean, you're just doing cars. Like today, if you buy a new Hellcat and you throw a tuner on it, do you document it? No, you buy the tuner, you plug it in, and you go drive it around. You're right, you're right. You know, we're just having fun. And they were just having fun. So, what's significant about this Fred Gibbs Z28? Well, this car was raced and it was raced hard. I mean, it's pretty cool. Usually, you don't see the small block cars out there racing, you know, but these are high wind and fun cars. So, I mean, these things, I imagine this guy was probably going through the draft at 7,500 RPM, you know, to win a lot of drag races. That's incredible. Isn't that cool? Very cool. You know, and you'll see, kind of scattered through the show, we have different, you know, these feature cars, unveilings. And this is, you know, people have called this the Pebble Beach of muscle cars. And I believe that. You know, people will restore a car and they will not show it anywhere until it comes to McCacken for its first show. You know, we really reward the guys who bring the cars here and want to unveil it with us because it's cool and you get the coverage and you get the crowd. But, you know. Some of these guys have literally spent five or ten years on these cars just to unveil them here. And some of them will sit restored for a year or two years or three years until they can get into the show and do it here. We were putting up pipe and drape and put on carpet last night. I didn't get to see the cars yet. So this is cool. I get to see them with you. Outstanding. So if you catch me off guard. Paul's first tour. He runs the show and I run the show. So here we are. Stars and Stripes Corvette over here. Unbelievable. L88. That's a pretty famous car. And that's the cool thing about McCacken is that you'll walk around and there's not a bad car in the building. That's unbelievable. Every car you see here. You go to some car shows and there'll be 200 cars. There'll be five good ones. We have 640 cars here. I bet you at least 637 of them are great. Agreed. This car's crazy famous. I used to own the Delmo Johnson car that ran against this car. Delmo was one of the original Grand Sport drivers. And one of his cars morphed in and ran against this car for several years. Amazing. And this car did something like 215 or 220 miles an hour. Back in the day, it was clocked. Incredible. Kevin McKay restored it, as I recall. And a lot of these cars were just lost over time because they went through so many seasons and so many changes. Got disassembled and sold off. Nothing's older than last year's race car. That's right. The fact is still, even now, of one-year-old race cars, not worth a whole lot. And they'll change the class. And then it's not competitive. And then it goes down through the privateer ranks into the junkyard. 16 L88. A monster. Yeah. So then our red carpet display here. I mean, we have a feature every year. The big feature is down the red carpet. So this year, we've got B-Body Hemi's. So they didn't make a lot of them. Right. You know, but it'll look common. When you walk down here, you'll think, oh, they're everywhere. But no, they're... They're not everywhere. They're just all here. Right. Oh, let's go check it out. Red carpet for B-Body Hemi's. That is a crazy rare color. Yeah. Hemi B-Body convertibles. Get you some of that. And yes, I said it. Isn't that crazy? This is muscle car heaven for sure. Mopar heaven. Yeah. It's just overwhelming. If you're a car guy, you have to do this event. That's a crazy rare color too. Wow. I love this color. What is that, turquoise? I don't know, but it's pretty awesome. This one, and this is a... Is that F6 green? Level one. That's who Wayne Schmeckle has a lot of his cars. Yeah. This is Phil Mitchell's car, but level one restores his cars as well. And what's the color code on there? I'm not familiar with it. I don't know this color. But these two colors together... Have you been to their shop? I have not. I haven't either. I have not. Boy, they do some good work. They really do. Wow. Mopar's crazy colors. Color makes the car. It's the best option you can have. Yeah, lay around brown is kind of a drag. We used to call them stick around brown. Stick around brown. Texas is lay around brown. Those are the recall wheels too. Unless it's a Jeep CJ, they sell. How about 446 pack black Roadrunner? That's pretty cool. That convertible on the end. Wow. Black with that copper guts. You know what it takes to make a black car look like that too. That's why the manufacturers still don't want to do black cars. It's tough. Real GT40. My old yellow car here. Boss 9. Black Boss 9. But real 250 GTO. What's that thing worth? Like $200,000, $300,000? Y'all know I think what they're... $40 million now? $70 million. Wow, way off. Yeah. Wow. That's the only white one. I'm going to just jump completely to the other side. So we have an auction house in Dallas called Heritage. I walked really close. Because I'm also a coin collector, which most people don't know about coins. They do coin stamps, posters, and comic books. On Friday, they sold a Superman watch, 1939, for $7.6 million. Comic book. Makes that GTO look cheap at $70 million, I guess, huh? Yeah. So Black Boss 9s, which I've had, I think, three. Stavang, other than the Lawman. 69 too. 69 unrestored Black Boss 9. That's unrestored? Yeah. How many miles are on it? I don't know how many miles are on that one, but... Wow. That's the real deal. That's crazy. This is our kind of car, right? Yeah, it is our kind of car. Yeah. That really is neat. Even though it's not a muscle car, but having a GTO here. Most people never get to see one in person. There's 36 of them. Unrestored 250 GTO. I mean, how can that car be that nice to be unrestored? That's crazy. I'm sure it got baned up and fixed and painted, whatever, but never been blown apart. Never down to the tubes. So pretty neat stuff. And a GT40. Yeah, a GT40 road car. This is down in the cheap seats. You know, this car is only, you know, $6, $7, $8 million, so... Dirty bubble. Yeah. That is so cool. It's for your helmet. Pretty cool stuff. And Carl, I'm just overwhelmed. We haven't even... We just started. All right, let's keep rocking. We've made it 100 feet. Buick stage cars, 1970. Most underrated muscle car there is, I think. The torque in these things. I mean, when you have cars that are known for having bearing failure because the acceleration is so intense that it uncovers the oil pickup in the oil pan. Incredible. I mean, the torque in these things, they leave the line so hard. The fastest car, one of the fastest cars in high school a guy had, his brother was a Marine at stage two. Right. Just brutal. Yeah. And then... Mere 500-some foot-pounds of torque on this thing. I mean, I've always been an LS6 Chevelle guy. Yep. However, it's easy to blow up an LS6. It's hard to blow up a stage one motor. Right. Unless you keep launching it with sticky tires and you don't get any oil in them. But executive hot rods right here. Yeah. I mean, and they ride and drive quality is so nice in these cars. It's like a luxury car, but it... Yeah, the fit and finish on a Buick is like a Cadillac. Right. Compared to a Chevrolet. Not a ragged Chevrolet, but I mean... And you know Wayne Schmeckle, right? Absolutely. Yeah, you've been to his place. This is his display. Wayne pulled out all the stops with his Rod Hall deal. Incredible. He's over here signing autographs. Should we buy one? Is he? Yeah. Let's go see if we can get Wayne's autograph. So we're here at Wayne Schmeckle and Liberty's Rod Hall display, correct? Tell us about it real quick. Well, I'm Shelby Hall. I'm Rod Hall's granddaughter. And this display is our Hall family legacy display. It's all about where it started and where it is today. And really just showcasing the amazing career of Rod Hall over the years. So you guys are probably, what, 10 years into this deal? What do you mean, 10 years? As far as restoration, paperwork, gathering. Yeah, I mean, they started collecting everything. Hey, buddy. How are you guys doing? Great, great. How are you, sir? Are you doing a coffee walk here or what? We're doing it right now. Wow. We are welcome. You're in it. Nobody's talking to Shelby about your Rod Hall collection. My question to her was, how many years you got invested in this? Um, we're probably only in, like, anything. You jump in, you just go. So you hear the stories and legends about people that never sleep. It can't be done. I don't know how, because that's true, right? It's true. It is true. Amazing. That we've really enjoyed. I obviously was a fan of Rod Hall. I had a truck in 1976. If I were a magazine, I would see Rod Hall. Because 76 is a big year for Dodge. Yeah. And that was the pre-production warhorse that year, right? Right. When they went full production in 77. I think so. Yeah. If you guys want to know where the rare Strop stuff is, the rare Rod Hall stuff is. One guy has them all. He's got them all. It's great to see you, sir. Are we going to dinner tonight? Yeah, I would love to. Outstanding. Yeah. All right, let's rock and roll. All right. All right, what do you want to see next? You know what? I'm going to direct you. I'm going to show you some Shelbys. I agree. Let's go see Shelbys. We got to get a little culture. So nine GT350s are here, 65s. As you know, we just did the coffee walk on the new GT350R, which is only 36 of them. But there's nine 65 GT350s here. The reason Colin put this together is because it's 60th anniversary. Right. There's a couple of special in this anniversary display. We got a couple of special deals. So there were two 65 Shelby rally cars built by Shelby, by High Performance Motors, which is Shelby's dealership, 24-hour rally in Mexico in 65. These are the two cars. They have not been together since 65. Wow. So this one, this is a number 243, just got restored. He's owned it since 1981 or 82, and I own 249, the sister car. So the fact we were able to get these two cars, you can see they have the driving lights in the grills. I don't think I've ever seen that. They had more lights on them for the rally. They had like four extra driving lights in the front, but they shed those after the event. But you can see it was in the magazine. And they use these cars for the rally. They use them for road test. So these cars are pretty much torn up and worn out. You know, over time, and hopefully people aren't going to cringe, and I don't think you will. I've become a big fan of Stripe Delete Shelbys. It's not Stripe Delete. Not Delete. Okay. No Stripe Shelby. Correct me. I mean, he is the man on Shelby. So I prefer that big scheme to that. Yes. No Stripes and Krager, you know, the Kelsey Hayes wheels. That's my favorite look, you know. But this car's had torque thrust on it since the 60s. So I've owned this car for 25 years. He's had this car for 43 years. Wow. But we've never had them together. This car's been getting restored for a long time. Who did the restoration on that? He did himself. Really? Okay. Yeah. Wow. Subbed out stuff. But I mean, they're really cool. They're sister cars. They got their original plates on them. This car's got a supercharger. This is the one I was telling you I put 70,000 miles on this car. We just came back from a rally, a GT350 tour. Put 1,200 miles in the car in four days. You gotta drive them. So we have these two rally cars. So what's the story with the supercharger? How long has it been on the car? Since 67. Okay. So it's got a Paxton blower on it. Okay. Rips pretty good. I've got Jason Billups restoring. Yeah. I mean, a lot of people see this and you know. I took it back from a drag car. Well, that's right. That's right. Yeah, yeah, yeah. I was torn. But the car shouldn't be a drag car. No. To me. So, you know, the supercharged car is coming back. Right. Hopefully, it'll be done in the next. It's up to you, Jason. But two years, maybe? I don't know. What do you think? It's always two years. Then you restore. Two years, two years, two years. It's a big restoration. That's incredible. Yeah. So I'm pretty happy to have those two cars here. But then. Wow. How about two R models side by side? Unbelievable. First one. Ken Miles flying R model. There's the car. All the way out of the water. OK, so. First race. First race win. First R model photographed all the way off the ground. And it wasn't once. Every time he hit that bump, every lap, she was airborne. That's incredible. And probably the most significant 65 Shelby there is. So does that make it the most valuable Mustang there is? I think it's the most valuable 65 Shelby there is. OK, there's always that debate. I hate to gravitate towards value, but. Right. It comes into play. Well, they are. They are intertwined. The fact this car exists is unbelievable. The fact that it exists is unbelievable. I had made a little video of it yesterday getting parked. And this engine. Yeah, I said, I asked the owner. I said, who built the engine? He goes, oh, my guy John built it. I said, I think it's got some snap to it. It's got 14.9 compression. And it sounds like it. And then we have the Kemp, the Charlie Kemp R model, which is the winningest R model there was. He won everything with this car. So two R models. So incredible that you're going to see these two cars. Anytime in your lifetime, but in one spot. Only in one spot. There's 36 of these. We got two of them here. There's two of those. We got both of them here. Unbelievable. And there's 521 street cars. And we've got a whole bunch of those too. And a number of them just came off the tour. We just, we had 55, 65, 55 GT350s. So you guys hear that? They did a tour with these cars. 1200 miles. Yeah. 65 GT350s for 1200 miles. That's incredible. And you know what? They came off the tour and they came here. We're just using them. That's awesome. So we got a good lineup of that. Pretty impressive stuff to me. Thank you for watching. So two digit cars. Wayne Carini's car there with the torque thrust on it. So is that the matching number? Is that, what's the serial number on that? Well, you know, what's funny was when he registered, he didn't know what the serial number is. So it doesn't have a serial number on the sign. Okay. Should we open the hood and take a look? I'd love to. Cause I think he was trying to match it to his new car. I know his new GT350R serial number 11. What is it? 150. Okay. Hey, look at that. Two boards. That's cool. Wow. So to me, two of the most pure American iconic cars ever. Has to be 65 Shelby, 63 split window. Yes. And we've got Pete Brock here with his new split window. He designed his modern interpretation of the split window where he did everything he wanted to do when he originally designed it. Wow. So, you know, flush mount glass, everything's smoothed out. All this stuff, the GM, the bean counters wouldn't let him do it. So you got to find him before you're out of here. He's up front. He's got a display up there. He'll be here later today. We will definitely hit him up. You know, and talk about Pete Brock with 65 Shelby's and split windows. That's cool. At McCacken. And then you'll like, we've got some 67's over here for you. I mean, we've got everywhere you turn, there's a cool car, but I think you need to get to the barn finds. I do need to get to the barn finds. Well, let's do it. So here's your deal. How did that get there? Oh, man. I'm going to call security. I like the license plate. I like it. Now, are you going to restore it? I mean, no. So one owner from new on the original title. Wow. And an M22 car. Oh, and a four-wheel deposit killer. Good road trip car. Yes. So a lot of people, not you. Right. But a lot of people didn't even know they made an LS6 after the 70 Chevelle. Right. So Dunntop did this car. Okay. He did the motor. He wanted this car to happen. So aluminum head, LS6 from the back. So that's an L89 LS6. Correct. Right. So they made 188 of them. And then in that year, there was only like 130-ish M22 cars. Okay. Of all 70 ones. Right. Not of LS6s. So you put that combination together with a four-wheel deposit and one-owner car. Is it Holy Grail? I think it is. And what color is this? Bridgehampton. It's hard to tell. There's not a lot of it left. I'll take that dig. You know, we didn't wax it, so... No, I love it. I love it. But we got it running and driving. It's a monster. It runs hard, drives fast. And... It's great. You don't leave it like it is. Yeah, you were telling me about it. And then you said you're going to bring it. And then you sent me the video of it running. I was like, they got that damn thing running. Yeah. That's cool. That's so cool. You know, the M22 is crazy because you had to have... It's a twin-disc clutch. Right. Different flywheel. I mean, it's... What's the code for the twin-disc clutch? I had a Camaro with that twin-disc clutch. We interviewed the guy that was the mechanic of this car's whole lot. Okay. He said, when we put a clutch in, I don't remember the year. He goes, we couldn't get one. Yeah. So we sent it back to GM and it went to Copo. And Copo relined the clutches and sent it back to the dealership. Yeah. Because they were crazy because it would engage the first disc first and then lock into the second for the grip. But everything's different. Yeah. You know, people you hear all the time, oh, I got an M22 Rock Crusher. No, you don't. Yeah. People say Rock Crusher all the time. But this actually has one in it. Right. Well, you can tell when you drive them. You can hear it. Yeah. Oh, it rattles. Oh, they're great. That's why a lot of them went away because people thought there was something wrong with it. It wasn't anything wrong. Right, right. So it's a Detroit Locker and a Shelby. Right, right, right. People go, it's broken. I went to park it and something broke. No, that's just how it is. Okay. Well, enough about the LS6. What's your favorite thing you hear in this other than this car? Again, you're catching me off guard because I've been busy making sure people come here and buy a ticket. He hasn't even walked to his own show yet. I'll do it tonight when the concert's going on. Mopar's 5150 has been bringing the heat the last couple of years. Man, he's turning up the wick. It's awesome. It's great to have young guys out there hustling, finding the stuff. Yeah, Tony's a good kid. I mean, let's face it. We're kind of the silverbacks at this point. No, we're old. You know, yeah. I tried to dive this. It didn't even work. How you doing? Good, sir. How are you? Oh, man. You've seen this one? No, no, now I'm in trouble. Uh-oh. Colin hasn't even seen this car. Car 332. So one of the eight that were exported to Hawaii. I lied to you. He said this is one of the eight that were exported to Hawaii. I had seen this car. My buddy Craig Conley called out this car when he found it in California. Okay. So I remember this car had sold last January. Pretty cool car. I mean, sit in the shed. You know, what I love now, though, is everybody appreciates this. 20 years ago, this would have been so frowned upon. Oh, my God, that car's rough. It needs to be restored. This is wrong. And that would just suck your mind away. Well, the value proposition used to be, would it cost more to restore it than the car was worth? But thankfully, people are appreciating the cars enough where now you can afford to restore a car. If you want to restore a 65, you can do it. You got enough headroom. But for me now, if this were my car, I would just do it all mechanically and drive it like that. Yep. Period. Yeah. We've got a 68 KR that we're doing right now. And the Porsche is 79. It's probably this rough, you think, Zach? It's pretty rough. We call those three drink minimums. What's it called? The three drink minimum. You go on those tough bars, those country western bars, and when it says three drink minimum, you know you're in the right place. See, they're still out there. GT 350. Barn find. One of the eight that was delivered new in Hawaii, but ended up in California. These guys are going to do a sympathetic restoration, which in British terms, it's kind of followed into US terms. Right. Survivor. That's true. I mean, for so long, cars were the only art form that people erased all the history on. You know, you wouldn't do it with a coin or a stamp or a comic book painting. Well, still with coins now. You clean the coin, you ruin it. Exactly. I mean, you erase all that history. So if you can save it, maintain it, you know, preservation is a big deal. Pebble Beach has a huge preservation class. We have a preservation class here. I love it. That one over there. Let's continue. This section is my favorite section. Thank you, guys. So my first pick was the 73 Baldwin Motion Camaro. Somebody had already picked that. However, I'm glad they have because I've had my second thoughts and doubts. My first pick now is the unrestored 66 GT 350 Shelby. One of eight that was delivered new to Hawaii. Let's go check it out. So we just had Chris Jacobs here, which is pretty cool. I haven't seen him in a while. I see him every year at some of the major shows. We talked about the Baldwin Motion car. This 1965 Shelby is my Coffee Walk pick award. Incredible. I love barn finds. I love original unrestored cars. And I hope they just get this running and driving. So thank you to the family that brought this. Coffee Walk pick is 1965 Shelby. How are you, sir? Good, man. How are you doing? Good, good. So we're going to give you the Dennis Collins Coffee Walk pick award for the show. Awesome. This car right here is my favorite car of the show. Awesome. I appreciate that. You good with that? Yes, sir. I'm not going to complain about that. If you'll take that to the front left corner, you get your trophy. Awesome. It's a nice one. I appreciate it. Yep. So send us all your leads on these barn finds. My lead's on the front of that cover there. You know who he is. Thanks for bringing it. Dang, man. No problem. Outstanding. I appreciate it. Yes, sir. Yeah. Thanks for bringing it. We know the car's back here. Congratulations. That's a great car. Great car. Incredible. Yeah. Nice to meet you. So I don't know if you saw that episode, but I found the Jimmy Walker car. Oh, okay. It was with the really famous drag car. You had two females running these cars. Rich Rickey's mom was one of them. But the Jimmy Walker car's arguably the lowest mileage car. That's got like 19 miles. Perfect original. Wow. But we sold it to Rich, and he's got two of them now. Captain America. Road race car. Incredible. Look at magnesium wheels on it. Oh, these are brutal. These cars wheelie back in the day. I don't think those stripes are 60s. That kind of looks like 80s to me. It looks like the old... Remember the Mopar guy that had the... That was kind of their logo. Yeah. Colors. Mopar Price guy, I think is what it was. That's crazy. I have at least been washing my cars. Right. I get this. Yeah. I'd love to be a survivor. Sometimes you got to wash them. Sometimes there's a lot of rodent debris under the hood. You got to clean it out. So cool. Isn't that neat? So a Raleigh Cutlass. Raleigh 350. Yeah. Now that is a cream puff. That hood makes me itchy just looking at it. Yep. Raleigh 350 car. Yeah. Roadrunner convertible. Six-pack car air grabber. So cool. W31 car. Yeah. Great. Mopar had the best graphics. Yes. They were just pushing the envelope on that stuff. I love this. Just so you can remember. I love it when guys write their old changes down here. Right. So is this 30 degrees of timing, 30,000s plug gap on your R43S? Really cool. Boss 302. So as far as driving, Richard, do you rather drive a Boss 302 or a Boss 9? Oh, Boss 302. Oh, I agree. Is there even a question? Well, it's just like... I love them both. It's like 67 Corvettes. Everybody thinks they want a 427, 435 horsepower. No, you really don't. Right. You want a small block car. Yeah. They just drive better. Well, they're different tools, different jobs. Correct. You just want to go straight. However... Right. But you talk about day two cars. Yeah. A Boss 429 needs to be a day two car. Without a doubt. It needs a cam. It needs an exhaust. It needs headers. So when we did the initial launch for the Hellcats. Right. All those webisodes, that Hemi Challenger and all those drag races is my car. Okay. So we did three different stages and three different drag strips. So we restored that car, which is the last time I did this, to judging standards. Okay. Well, on day three, we were at open headers, slicks, cowl tracks, front and rear. Long story short, in that short period of time, we got three seconds off that car. Which is huge. Huge. Yeah. Right. We were from high 14s to high 11s with the same motor. Because I don't know. I forget what the formula was, but to go from a 12 second car to 11 second car, what it takes in horsepower, it's a big number. I mean, that car was just bottled up. Right. We just un-corked it. I'll tell you one of the neatest things there was putting the cowl tracks front and rear so it came out of the hole in the slicks. And cowl tracks are great because it just gives you a hidden edge. Yeah. Just puts the bite into it. Boston Air 2 is a great course. Well, sir, we are honored to be here. Honored to have you. The show's amazing. I love this section. I love Shelby's. I love Corvettes. I love Mustang cars. Love everything about it. There's more Holy Grail cars here than you're probably ever going to see in a lifetime. Do not miss this show. We pack it. Thanks again for having us. Thanks for coming. Unbelievable. Let's go take a break. All right. So we're here with Mr. Wayne Carini. One of my mentors and a legend. I think I can call you a friend at this point, right? We're great friends. Okay. Not just a friend. Great friends. So we're standing in front of the GT350R, which they only made 36 of. Right. I was humbled and honored to get number one. Number one. You got number 11. Yeah. There's two ones. Yeah, there's two ones. Which means you win again. So we were talking a little bit earlier about preservation style cars. Yeah. I love that class. Yeah. Survivor class. Yeah. You have a restoration shop. So do I. Yeah. All Jeeps don't have to be perfect. No, that's for sure. And if you save them... You know, we used to... My father had a restoration shop, and I grew up in it. And we would get cars in today that I'd say, are you crazy? You're going to restore this car? It looks so good. You know, we try to talk people out of restoring cars. Rather than do that, buff it, clean it up, and preserve it. It got you almost a fanatical point. Yeah. Right? It did. I think we're going the other way. I love the transformation in the industry to try to preserve the car. Right. What's helped us a lot... My side is dry ice. As far as chassis cleaning. That's right. Steam cleaning. But my favorite class here... The barn finds might be a little rough. A little rough. But the preservation class... There's a couple of Fords, a 63 and a 64 Ford Galaxies down here. One's got 12 miles on it. One's got, I think, 22 miles on it. We've heard about those. We haven't seen them. Straight down. But they're both 390 cars. Black. Yes. So you do the world's finest restorations. Everybody knows that. Well, some. Some. There's other guys. A lot of them. But you're not opposed to saving a car. No, but don't save a car that is rusted up to the door handle. I've got a barn find. Oh my god, I want to preserve it. And you look at it and go, oh my god, that's not the car to preserve. Now, if you want to drive it and have fun with it, who cares what it looks like? But preservation is just preserving what somebody else before you preserved. Or what the factory built. Or the factory, you know. And they're benchmark cars when you get a factory car with 12 miles on it. You can see exactly how the car was. So my opinion of this show... It's one of the top, right? It's a pebble beach of muscle cars. There you go. That's it. He said it. I didn't. Pebble beach of muscle cars. Pebble beach of muscle car collecting. This is it. It is so good to see you, sir. Good to see you. Thank you for your time. Yeah, thank you. GTV PR number 11. As always, please like, share, and follow. And most importantly, subscribe to our YouTube channel. See you next week.