Go behind the design with interior designer Emily Pun as she shares the deeper story behind the transformation of her London home. Following her full house tour on The Interior Design Show, Emily reveals the thinking, challenges, and creative decisions that shaped the space, from restoring original features and navigating planning restrictions to designing bespoke joinery and incorporating reclaimed materials.
Emily also explores her personal design philosophy and how her background in interior architecture influences the way she approaches both her own home and her clients’ spaces. She explains why great design starts with people, not aesthetics, and how understanding how someone lives is essential to creating spaces that feel meaningful, functional, and lasting.
Throughout the episode, Emily offers practical advice on renovation priorities, where to invest, where to save, and how limitations can become opportunities for creativity. This is an honest and insightful look into the process behind the finished result, and the mindset that drives thoughtful, human-centred design.
00:00 Introduction 00:42 Creative Background & Career Path 03:04 Design Philosophy & Working with Clients 05:13 Renovation Advice: Where to Spend & Save 06:59 Buying and Transforming the House 08:52 Kitchen Design and Extension 09:47 Lighting and Functional Design 11:16 Office, Bedrooms and Daily Living 13:27 Planning Challenges and Creative Solutions 15:08 Renovation Lessons and What She’s Most Proud Of 17:20 Reclaimed Materials and Original Features 20:25 Design Details, Colour and Personal Touches 23:37 Launching Her Business and Future Plans 25:15 Final Reflections
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I've never talked about this before, but actually.
Hi, Interior Design Show.
My name is Emily Penn, and this is Behind the Design.
I actually wanted to become a singer.
I wanted to become an artist, a painter.
I've always been very into the creative arts as a child,
and interiors was something that I kind of took on board
in high school and through university.
So I went to university for interior architecture.
So it was just a natural lean,
and I guess I was really good at it in school.
So being good at it probably propelled me
into loving it as well.
So when I finished university,
I found myself leaning further into it
in the commercial space,
and now I do it for people's homes.
I think my foundation and my learned experience
through university and just having trained in the craft
has been able to give me the ability
to really think about a problem
and think about an opportunity in a very deep way.
I personally walk into spaces and I know very quickly
when things have been considered versus not.
So I guess having been trained at it
is giving me the ability to kind of extrapolate,
but also dive in really deep in a really focused way.
My daily non-negotiable is exercise.
I have to move my body in some way,
but not in like a calm way.
My exercise needs to be quite intense.
So a painful workout is my non-compromise.
If there was a fire in the house,
I would save my dog, obviously.
I think it would be really sad
if that wasn't the answer.
I would save him.
He's my first thing to go with me.
Religiously cult-like breakfast item is always oats.
Oats with oat milk and a really super riped banana.
That's my breakfast of choice.
My friend would describe me as unhinged,
and they would describe me as open,
and then hopefully they would describe me as loving.
My core design principle or philosophy,
me right now, is being able to put people
in the core and the center of what I do
is something that I really treasure
and that I really, really protect in my work.
I think design can have many fonts.
It can have many different ways of iterating
and looking and being, but really down to it,
it's about the people who are inhabiting
the space that I do.
And if they don't love it,
and if they don't resonate with it,
I think that's kind of when the design breaks
and when creativity becomes quite fluffy
and superficial and there's no depth to it.
So I think that's my core.
I'm obsessed with watching how people interact
in spaces or interact with each other.
There's something about the psychology of human brain
that's really fascinating to me.
And I think I've always been very creative
and perhaps interior architecture, interior design
is just something that kind of found its way
in my fascination with humans
and my love for creating things.
And it feels like it marries those two parts of myself
into something that I can do as my job, as my day-to-day.
I think the more time I spend with a client,
the more I get to know what they truly are
and who they really are and what they value in their life,
what they don't.
I also talk about money a lot.
I talk about a lot of the pragmatic, practical things
that have to do with designing homes.
I think we can shoot for the gold star,
but we need to bring it down to earth
and see what's actually achievable.
I don't think it's necessarily about having
an unlimited amount of money to kind of get what you want,
but there will be elements that people
really love about a certain thing.
Is it the timber that they really like?
Is it about a memory that they had from their childhood home?
So yeah, understanding those,
just natural curiosity of humans again,
just knowing what kind of moves them in certain directions
really helped me guide conversations.
I think spend on plumbing.
Plumbing items are so critical
to the longevity of your bathroom,
the longevity of your kitchen.
I think saving on furniture,
being able to, anything that you can buy secondhand really,
whether that be appliance,
as long as it's got a certification
that it's been refurbished well,
stools, chairs, yeah, any furniture item.
I think social media, Instagram has changed everything.
I think, especially in homes,
we are getting a glimpse into how people live now,
which is so fascinating
and in the best of times connects us all.
I really, really love that.
There's so much of my work that's about connection
and being able to bring connection to humans,
connection to people,
and social media has allowed us
to connect with people through their homes.
And how beautiful is that?
It's so amazing.
I think I take a lot of inspiration from traveling.
I like to expose myself with how other people live
in their day-to-day.
I think just being able to integrate myself
in the normalcy of living a very content
and beautiful life for everybody,
that's kind of how I bring myself into my work.
What drew me to the house was its potential
It was really run down and it wasn't loved or cared for.
And I am in the business for seeing potential.
So the fact that it wasn't really looked after
or taken care of, it filled something in me
and I guess it stirred a natural curiosity
for me to be able to put some life back into it.
One of the things that we knew we wanted to change,
honestly, I think the question should be,
what didn't we want to change?
There was so much about the house
that needed attention and needed love and care.
I think over the last couple of years,
we're just happy that it's a home
that has its own life and its own ecosystem.
I think homes are a living, breathing thing.
I know it sounds so woo-woo,
but I think because it facilitates and houses humans,
I really wanted to give it a new, fresh chance at living.
So the house was covered in purple dash when we bought it.
So one of the first things that we wanted to do
was resurface the brickwork.
It was really tired looking from the outside.
And we also changed the windows simultaneously
from new PVC to timber.
I mean, the hallway was completely refurbed.
We ripped up old carpets from the floor
to find rotten timber floorboards
and staircase that we had was very creaky.
So we re-bolted everything,
re-secured everything to the stringer,
to the treads and risers itself.
It also was painted.
We put down a new carpet runner
that I sourced from Etsy.
Storage under the staircase and painted the stair
in this glossy paint color called Tuscan Red.
So we extended the kitchen out into the rear garden
by, I think, a couple of meters.
I can't remember off the top of my head and into the side.
So we have a much wider and deeper space
into the kitchen dining area.
We obviously demolished most,
if not all of the existing kitchen.
We also had an outside toilet that had to go.
So it's a full redesign of storage, island,
kitchen run, dining space and into our garden.
So the shelving unit in the kitchen
is painted also in Tuscan Red
and it's glossy in finish.
It acts as a little bit of a display case
for our bowls and plates.
And I love eating my oats in the morning
because I get to choose.
I feel like I get to choose my Pokemon every day
to use in the morning.
So natural lighting is something
that's really important to me
and I'm sure to a lot of people.
I wanted to be able to light the space
based on different functionalities as well.
There's task lighting, there's ambient lighting.
I think kitchens especially,
to be able to holistically design the space
and not just one in isolation to another
because lighting will have an effect
on what's happening on the floor,
what's happening vertically on the surfaces.
Sometimes I feel like I don't have enough space
and sometimes people integrate lighting
into their upper cabinets for shelving.
I didn't wanna do that.
So we have arms that kind of shine on the work surfaces.
So now whenever we prep food or cook,
that acts as our task lighting.
And then we had Risa's spots
that light the kitchen quite evenly throughout the space.
They're very purposely placed in different areas
so that they're not evenly spaced on the ceiling,
but very much looking on what's happening on the floor
and then placed accordingly.
And then we have two can lights above the island.
Initially I was looking at pendants,
but again, I think it would have obscured the view
to the shelving item.
And then we have the wall lights that are coned
and they wash the walls on the side extension.
So it acts as a little bit of an accent lighting.
So our middle room is our office.
So we have a sit-stand desk there at the moment,
which is quite nice with some shelving units at the back.
And then we have pocket doors that pocket into the wall
before we go into the living space
because sometimes our living room is quite loud
because we have a surround sound system
in the living room for movies.
So the doors can be shut and it can be a bit noisy.
It's acoustically isolated to the rest of the house,
which is something that I really love too.
So the guest bedroom was one of the first rooms
that we did when we moved in.
It's a very simple space.
We wanted adequate storage.
So we had a bed with storage underneath the bed frame
so people can come and store all their bits.
It's very muted and neutral.
We wanted it to be quite relaxing
and wanted it to be for friends and family
when we moved into it.
Our main bedroom space is where we sleep.
We have a bed canopy that we DIYed.
It's very calming to us.
We love waking up in that space.
We retain some of the design features original to the house,
like the fireplace and the base of the hearth.
We have storage underneath the bed,
same as the guest bedroom.
We built IKEA PAX wardrobes
into the chimney nooks and niches.
We refinished the windows to timber sash windows.
We have these long, beautiful, luscious curtains.
It feels like a hotel room whenever we wake up in it.
The most time I spend,
it will be probably the kitchen or the living space.
They both have very, very different functions
throughout my day.
I work at home.
I sit in the kitchen and I work here
because I want light and bright and focus time.
But sometimes throughout the day,
I get a little bit lethargic.
So I need to work,
but I just want to be a little bit more chilled.
And then I will step into the living room
and kind of cocoon myself in blankets in the fire.
You gotta have different work function spaces.
One of the aspects and restriction of creativity
can sometimes be such a blessing
in being able to push the fold
and push boundaries.
In this house,
we had to go into planning permission
with a rear extension.
Initially, my architect, Marilena,
wanted to do a box extension with a flat roof.
Oftentimes, planning permission will look at
what's kind of acceptable and accepted within the area.
And they had come back and said that
our side extension needed to be pitched.
So it was one of those opportunities
that could allow us to think a little bit more creatively
and just think outside the box, perhaps.
Pun, because it was a box extension.
It was no longer a box.
So think a little bit outside the box.
And I think, again,
it's brought in an element and a feature
with our ceiling that everybody loves now.
It's a timber baffle system
that kind of acts as sun shading,
but also warmth and adds rhythm to the kitchen
and kind of brings, I guess,
as an anchor that kind of unifies the space.
There's a lot of timber throughout,
so I feel that it was very aptly used.
I like to be able to have one element be the wow factor
or something that really draws people in.
So in the kitchen, it would be the floor.
In the living space,
it would be the fact that it's all drenched in one color.
In the bedroom, it would be the canopy
that kind of looks above the bed.
Just having one talking point
that kind of anchors all the little elements around it
is something that I would preach about.
I'm gonna plug my business.
If you're renovating right now, give me a call.
If you're thinking about renovating, it's so daunting.
There's so much information to learn.
There's like five bazillion choices
that you're gonna be making
in the next month to two years' time.
There is literally so much value
in taking time on making those decisions.
If it's a choice between not having enough money
versus not having enough time,
I would much rather advise my clients
not having enough money
because having the time gives you so much more freedom
and so much more autonomy and agency
in making the right decision for yourself.
I think I have a whole series on Instagram
after renovating the house on reflecting
and mulling over the things that I am really, really glad
in making the choices were
and some of the things perhaps I would have
and should have thought more about.
I don't see them as misses or rather than opportunities.
So hopefully if we have the luck
and the right timing to buy another house after this,
it's probably gonna be a continuous iterative process,
creating the beauty about creativities that there's no end.
It's always an iterative process
and that's what I love about it.
I am the most proud of the house itself.
There's no single element that I would choose.
I'm a person who really values the process
and I'm a person who really values
the experience of doing stuff.
So designing and renovating the house for me,
I knew it was gonna be a huge undertaking,
but I didn't quite know how pivotal it would be in my life.
So I am very, very proud to have embarked on it,
have had the opportunity to do so
and have the resources to do so
and have such a support system
that kind of uplifted me when I did it.
And the fact that it resonates with so many people
outside of my immediate circle
is something that I'm very, very grateful for.
I am a very detail-oriented, very organized person.
So even the unexpected things were very much expected,
but I guess for others, when they come into our home,
the most unexpected thing is probably
the reclaimed quarry towels on the floor.
They're often an item that probably is retained
in old homes and old buildings,
but being able to bring in something reclaimed
as a new item into our kitchen and into our home,
perhaps most people walk in here
and they wouldn't expect it.
Most of the times reclaimed items
or secondhand bits are cheaper than new.
There's life to it.
There's where, there's history.
There's a story behind the item.
I really like thinking where its origin is from
or an origin story for the item that I purchased
from somebody's dingy garage or basement.
I really love that.
So being able to craft and give another life to it,
perhaps in a very different way,
is something quite magical, I think.
Original features in the house,
we kept some of the timber floors upstairs
in the first floor.
We kept the fireplaces.
Unfortunately, so many elements were kind of taken away
through the process of different purchases
prior to us buying it and moving in.
So we've tried to reinstate some of the original features.
You'll see that there's timber sash windows in the front.
There's stained glass front door.
We've tried to keep as many of what we could
into the scheme.
Yeah, so you'll see flagstones in the front
being, I believe, quite original to the house.
I knew that I was very much set on a timber kitchen
because the floor was where all the fun bits were happening.
So I wanted the timber to be a space
where I can rest a little bit.
So we have these oak veneered fronts with J-groove handles.
So no handles that protrude out,
no ironmongery that detracts
from the simplistic fronts of the timber.
The direction of the grain is very intentional
where the vertical panels are all straight
running from floor to ceiling.
And then the run is left to right
to kind of elongate the space a little bit more.
Open shelving, not for everybody, I'll have to say.
It does get dusty and we have to clean it every month.
So if that's not for you, that's completely fine.
I wanted open shelving just so that
we could help balance the cost a little bit,
but also to keep the space looking bigger and more spacious.
It's an opportunity for us to also showcase them
for a little bit.
We have kitchen books.
All of our glassware plates and bowls are all exposed.
I want all and everybody to come into our home and my home
and feel like they know where everything is.
And I really like that about the kitchen.
So the window seat was designed for Harold, our dog.
He's not here today, but he sometimes sits there
and watches cats from our neighbors come out
and he very longingly wants to fight them.
But it's a moment that acts as a view port
from all the way our living space.
You can see all the way into the garden.
It was an opportunity for us to also think very carefully
about the garden and the rear extension
leading into the landscaping.
I was very, very adamant and I held a lot of thought
for doing the bench seating internally,
but also being able to think quite considerately
about the outdoor seating.
So you'll see that it kind of wraps around
and forms this really lovely planter.
So the view of the window seat frames that planter as well.
This is an exclusive.
I've never talked about this before,
but actually the timber beams in the ceiling
and the roof is actually two separate timbers.
Our contractor had ordered eucalyptus
instead of oak for the cladding
and had tried to convince us that it was oak.
It was very much not oak.
So we painfully stained it and dyed it
to make it a bit more closer to the oak timbers that we had,
but it's an element that has brought us a lot of pain,
but also a lot of joy.
I think we look at it, it's not super polished.
It's not very perfect.
There's knots and the timbers are a little bit warped
in some edges, but I think we've grown to love it.
I think oftentimes people have an expectation
of homes being perfect,
but again, we're fighting entropy, guys, so.
I think color is quite personal.
It's a very, very personal thing for everybody.
Sometimes it's kind of like clothes, really.
I find that when I sit down with clients
and I see what they gravitate towards,
it very much quickly reflects on who they are
and on their inner workings.
So I guess it's a process of discovery with them
and seeing whether or not
they might like something at the beginning
and what happens at the end is very, very different
because they would have lived a whole life
through the design process and through the build process
and they might come out being somebody else.
So my approach with color and texture
really is just in step with my clients
and I think things can look good,
but ultimately, yeah, it's about being able to reflect
who the user is and the people in it.
I am a huge advocate for eBay.
eBay, if you're watching this, sponsor me.
I love an eBay dive.
I used to buy lots of new furniture
from various different brands,
but I have found that being able to exercise that resistance
and feeling like you've made a win on a bid,
that thrill is fascinating.
I love it.
I think Next for me,
I have loved launching my business.
It's been so unexpected.
I have always worked in the commercial space
for really, really big businesses,
for really big companies and brands
and launching my business
and now having direct access to my end user
in such an intimate way,
crafting their homes
and they're gonna live in it for a really long time.
I see so much value
and I'm always so, so, so grateful
for people kind of opening their doors to me.
It's such a vulnerable way to bring people in.
So that's it for me,
just putting a foot in front of the other.
What's my dream style and home?
I would love to design a home that was just pure bed.
Every single surface was just...
I actually don't.
I think when I get asked questions like that,
I feel like I would be putting myself in a box.
I think, again, there's no dream space for me.
My dream project is every single client
that I get to work with now.
Honestly, it sounds like I'm such a teacher's pet
when I say that,
but there is no dream project for me.
I really, really just enjoy the process so much
that it doesn't matter what the end result looks like.
I'm just happy that I was a part of the ride.
What am I most grateful for?
I'm really grateful of my friends.
I am so warmed to know
that I have such a support system around me
who might not necessarily talk to me every day,
like even friends and people
that I'm not in their pockets all the time
and seeing them and being able to be seen by them
and heard by them in such a way
that really touches me to my core.
I'm really, really grateful of the people around me.
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