The Real Work of Rhythm: Denise E. Williams on Intuition, Movement, and Creating Your Own Day

Retirement isn’t the end. It’s a recalibration.

In this episode of Real Work, Jennifer Tarle sits down with Denise E. Williams — occupational therapist of 45 years, intuitive healer, classically trained singer, dancer, speaker, and founder of Holistic Hoop — to explore what it means to live rhythmically, intentionally, and spiritually aligned.

From managing pediatric clinics and keynote speaking… to studying intuition for decades… to being invited to perform in New York in her seventies, Denise shares how curiosity, movement, and discipline have shaped every season of her life.

This isn’t about slowing down.
It’s about creating your own day.

In this episode, we discuss:
-Why rhythm is essential for mental and physical health
-How to reinvent “retirement” through movement and purpose
-The power of intuition — and how anyone can develop it
-Voice, breathing, and speaking with clarity and confidence
-Acting “as if” to overcome fear and performance anxiety
-Why you must be your first patient before serving others
-Healing through humor, creativity, and self-expression

Denise reminds us that growth doesn’t stop — it evolves.

🎙️ Part of the Real Work series
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Connect with Denise E. Williams
➡️ YouTube: https://www.youtube.com/@holistichoop3295/shorts
➡️ Instagram: https://www.instagram.com/denise.e.williams/
➡️ Facebook: https://www.facebook.com/denise.e.williams/
➡️ Threads: https://www.threads.com/@denise.e.williams
➡️ TikTok: @desniseewilliams72

Shop Media from Episode: https://amzn.to/40A2IAY

Books
Show Your Work! — Austin Kleon
Keep Going — Austin Kleon
Performance Anxiety

Music / artists
Duke Ellington
Count Basie
Sarah Vaughan