PIZZA, GRAPE SODA & EPSTEIN

PIZZA, GRAPE SODA & EPSTEIN

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Lara Logan
36 Video Views·Feb 17, 2026  #GoingRogue #LaraLogan #MikeSmith

PIZZA, GRAPE SODA & EPSTEIN

On Episode 64 of Going Rogue with Lara Logan, Lara is joined by Mike Smith, a former Hollywood stuntman and action director turned independent filmmaker.

Smith spent years working inside the entertainment industry before producing the documentaries Out of Shadows and Into the Light, films that examine media influence, cultural narratives, and allegations of corruption in powerful institutions. Out of Shadows became one of the most viewed independent documentaries online and has been translated into multiple languages.

In this clip, Smith and Lara read directly from emails connected to Jeffrey Epstein and discuss the unusual phrasing that has fueled years of online speculation.

The FBI has never released an official code word list. Interpretations surrounding terms like pizza, grape soda, and jerky come from internet theories, not confirmed admissions. The conversation focuses on the wording itself and why many people found it unsettling.

“Pizza and grape soda. ’Nuff said.”
“May I bring in your slice of pizza to you?”
“Jerky class, anyone?”

The question is not what the internet believes.
The question is why the language reads the way it does.

EPSTEIN OUT OF SHADOWS & INTO THE LIGHT
EP. 64 | Going Rogue with Lara Logan

Watch the full episode here
https://bit.ly/goingrogue-ep64

Watch Mike Smith’s documentaries here
https://intothelight.movie

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