Voicing b d g sounds if your language lacks them e g Chinese accents ep 5

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Voicing b d g sounds if your language lacks them e g Chinese accents ep 5
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00:00 Start
01:06 Chinese accent phonology & examples
03:35 What is voicing?
05:06 What are plosives and how do you make them?
11:05 What is perceived as voiced
12:47 How to identify what sounds to work on
A subtle feature of certain accents is the lack of /b, d, g/ sounds, the voiced counterpart to /p, t, k/. In addition, various languages devoice /b, d, g/ sounds as a feature of their accent in English. In this podcast episode we examine what voicing is and how to do it so you can sound more native when speaking English and other languages with these sounds you may lack
AI Generated·May contain errors
Chinese accented English might say it's not good. It's bad instead of it's not good
It's bad with a cut or a bus sound instead of a new or a bus sound. Hey amazing people
Welcome to today's podcast. We're gonna be talking about a little accent feature that I've always subconsciously
Recognized having grown up in a primarily Chinese
speaking environment
being exposed to Chinese
Specifically Cantonese accented English
This is about the sound bud and gun how they are substituted in Chinese accents as butter and cup
Although this feature is an accent feature of Chinese accent in English
We'll also talk about the concepts that govern
Why it sounds the way it is such as voicing which applies to all like it just so happens that Chinese doesn't have
Voicing for these particular sounds but for other accents other languages. They also have voicing issues. So
We'll talk about that as well and we'll talk about exercises about how to
practice voicing as well as how you can predict or self-diagnose what features you might have issues with and
So you should stick around one of the more subtle features of a Chinese accent that you might not realize is a fairly simple one
The fact that there's no bud or guh sounds. That's right
There's no voiced plosive sound buh-duh and guh in Chinese accents
Specifically Mandarin and Cantonese which are the most common types of accents you'll encounter
Instead of the bud or guh sounds you will get a voiceless
But the or cup and that's why Chinese accents might instead of saying I have a dog with the duh sound
They might say I have a dog
With a voiceless duh sound. Do you hear that? I have a dog versus a Chinese accented
I have a dog or instead of saying I need to go with a guh sound
You might say I need to go with a guh sound or Chinese accented English might say it's not good
It's bad instead of it's not good
It's bad with a guh or a buh sound instead of a nguh or a buh sound for good and bad
Do you hear the difference? I'm gonna repeat the words a couple more times so you can hear it good versus good
bad versus bad
good good
bad
Hopefully you could hear it now the difference as I've mentioned before is voicing
Chinese languages often do not have but the guh sound which are known as voiced plosives
Instead they have two sets of voiceless plosives with one set having
Aspiration and the other not having aspiration. So instead of what you might get in romance languages like Spanish or Slavic languages like Russian
Like contrast between the sound buh and buh in Chinese you'll get buh and puh
or instead of getting a
Guh and guh you'll get guh and cuh or instead of duh and duh you'll get duh and tuh
So that's how Chinese languages typically operate. They usually have a
voiceless
unaspirated
Plosive like but the or guh and then a voiceless
aspirated plosive puh, tuh, and cuh and
There's a few that have the voiced version as well. Although for the most common ones you won't have it and that's why they substitute the
Buh, duh and guh sounds you get in English and other languages like Spanish and Russian
With a harder sort of a harder sound like but the or guh instead of buh, duh or guh
Let's review voicing again, and we can learn how to create this effect this concept of voicing
Voicing is the vibration of the vocal cords in your throat when you make a particular sound
You can actually feel this. So place your hand on your throat
Got it. Now say ah
Do you feel it vibrate in your throat?
That's voicing. That's your vocal cords vibrating
that means that the ah sound is
voiced because when you say ah
You can feel it vibrating here
Vowels, however in the vast majority of languages including English and Chinese
Are voiced so you can try it with ee and ooh as well. Try it
Or
You can feel it vibrate. Those are voiced
Sounds. Now, of course, it's not just vowels that are voiced. You also have consonants. So in English you got zzz or vvv
You got
As well, you can feel those are vibrating and English also as well as Spanish and Russian and a lot of European languages have the voiced
plosive sounds like muh, duh or guh
Chinese however doesn't have that although Chinese as I said before does have voiced vowels and that's pretty typical
I think I can't think of any languages that don't have voiced vowels
But if you can think of any do comment them below because I'd be curious to know
I can't think of any languages that have voiceless. Anyway, Chinese does not have
Voiced plosives which are sounds that have a explosive sound. That's why they're called plosives
So you block the air from escaping your mouth with some sort of articulator like your tongue or your lips
So you're blocking the air then the pressure builds up like when you say puh, you're actually building up pressure
and then you release it and
That creates a
Plosive sound that's the build of a pressure plus the release
So for example, buh and puh both of them are plosives made with the lips
They're bilabial plosives. Bi meaning two and labial meaning lips
so bilabial plosives because you're using the lips to block off the air to create the
Puh or a buh sound when you build up that pressure and then release it. We can try it in slow motion
So try to build up that pressure in your mouth
Put your lips together
put them together and then have air try to escape but don't let it escape because you're building up the pressure and
then finally
Release it. So if you're listening to the podcast, you won't be able to see this, but let's try it together
Right building up pressure
Release. All right. So that's that's a plosive sound
That's the voiceless P sound with a bit of aspiration
But that is a plosive sound
now
You also have it for the B sound which is voiced
Which as I mentioned before as you remember you might remember there is vibration in the vocal cords
so when you do this you want to say
But there's a kind of a rumble before the release so you can hear maybe if you slow down do really slow motion
There is a kind of a build-up
Buh, okay, that's that's the
Voiced version. There's a build-up and that's the vocal cords vibrating that little bit of time when the vocal cords vibrate
That is what makes a sound voiced
So you should feel a sort of a rumble or a vibration in the throat and potentially the mouth
Just before you release it
like
But let's do this a few times in slow motion
but but
Let that rumble build up until you can feel that you really can't increase the pressure anymore and then release it
but
But now increase that speed a little bit because you don't need that long of rumble
but
but and try not to spit either because it's not a
Spitting action and if you're doing that you're probably putting too much pressure and too much effort into it
It's just but and so you just kind of speed up until you still have a little bit of that
That rumble which causes it to become a voiced sound
but but but and so if you're a Chinese speaker trying to sound more native in English or
other languages that have voiced
Plosives like bada which Chinese lacks then you want to keep practicing this until you can really easily do it without thinking
But you know you can you want to speed it up so it sounds
fluid
Natural, but you don't want to speed it up so much
Do you just skip that rumble that voicing that is the voicing and that's what causes it to become a buddha sound one more thing
This might not be happening for a lot of you, but it might be happening for some of you
You don't want the air to be escaping through your nose
The air should be trying to escape through your mouth because this is an oral sound
if it escapes through the nose it becomes a nasal sound and what you get instead is an M sound like
And there's no pressure because the air is escaping through your nose
you don't want that you want it to try to escape through the mouth and
Create that sound not through the nose which would be and you don't get that pressure now. Let's try saying it in a word
bad
very slowly
bad
Speeding up a little bit bad
Bad, it's a buff sound you get that little rumble. That's the voicing and they get bad
Bad like that and not bad, but like bad so you can hear bad versus bad
There's a little bit of a book and you can slow down
Speed I think you'll be able to hear a little bit of rumble bad
Versus bad and that second one isn't what you don't want because that's more of a Chinese accent
Congratulations, that's how you do a voice bus
The good and the dust sounds are basically the same though
But for those sounds you block the air in your mouth with different parts of your tongue
so for example with a
Sound use the front of the tongue to touch top and block the air you get
Duck duck right and then go use the back of the tongue to block the air in your mouth and you go
go
Go go go and not go
Because that last one which is the Chinese accent does not have any real amount of
Rumbling that voicing before the release and caused it to sound a bit off a little bit like a case
Sound that you get in in Russian or in Spanish
All right
So practice this enough and you'll be able to say quick enough that you can still have a little bit of this rumble
Which is to say voicing by the way, you might have noticed this but voicing is a continuum
So it's not like a computer that's either on or off but rather like a light bulb with a dimmer switch as you turn it on
Slowly the light might not completely fill the room and so it becomes completely bright
It might still feel dark even when the lights are on
But at some point as you're turning that light switch there
You're turning that dimmer becomes brighter and brighter and brighter and some point you're like, okay
The room is now right so you can see that it's like a continuum like that right voicing might be completely
Lacking then there's a little bit of voicing but it might still feel like it's voices and at some point it becomes
Voiced and different languages have different thresholds
Of whether it's a voiced or voiceless sound at some point they consider the voice sound or a voiceless sound similar to the light
Well, you know at some point it's lit enough and beyond that it's kind of dark
it may be different from person to person and it is different from language to language and
Listeners will subconsciously or consciously identify sounds as being either voiced or voiceless
Just like we can tell if the room feels dark or bright the lack of voicing in Chinese
Plosives like but yeah, it's slightly less voiceless than the Spanish or Russian
But and cuh, but it's way more voiceless than they're booked and good
Which is why it feels like a fata or cut sometimes to the ears of speakers of those languages
English's voiced Buddha and go sounds are slightly less voiced than other languages, but a lot more voice than Chinese
So finally, let's talk about how you might identify these potential issues in your own accent
A lot of this knowledge deals with phonological in this is the set of phonemes
I use sounds that are used in the language. You can often find a list of these on Wikipedia
Just type in language
phonology like Spanish phonology or
Mandarin phonology it will often show you a set of symbols in the IPA the international
Outlet that will tell you what sounds exist and if a sound exists in your target language, let's say English
Maybe you're learning English and this sound doesn't exist in your native language
You'll likely substitute it with something else
For example, the first sound is super rare among world languages and speakers of various languages may substitute it with tough or
stuff
So you might get instead of thank you. You might get thank you or thank you
If you look at Mandarin or to Cantonese phonology, you will see that the phonology lists
No, but duh or duh sounds which predicts correctly that these speakers will often
Substitute the buh-duh and guh sounds with buh-duh and cuh the voiceless versions
Funnily enough this reminds me of the first time I watched avatar by James Cameron
With the blue aliens if you've seen that movie, I think a lot of you probably have the alien Na'vi
People the Na'vi people and the aliens
Had a sort of Na'vi accent, which was very well done because while watching the movie
I had no idea. It was actually a real language
Real as in it was created with linguistic principles
But I was thinking wow it it sounds so real and based on the accent of Natiri one of the aliens
When she said the word rider like someone who rides a horse in that case that riding this flying
animal based on how she pronounced rider as right there I
Predicted that the language would like Chinese lack the voice but the guh sounds because when she said rider
It didn't sound like a D to me. It sounded like a duck sound like it like a Spanish T or a Russian T
After the movie, I immediately went to Wikipedia and I discovered that the language had in fact been designed by a real
Linguistics professor and it indeed lacked the buh-duh-guh sounds
So I think this accent was very plausible and realistic since it followed all the expected accent substitution at least the ones I noticed
Anyway, so today we've learned about
voicing and how Chinese accents may substitute buh-duh-guh sounds for the voiceless version of
That sound namely buh-duh-uh-guh. This applies not only to Chinese speakers speaking English
But also Chinese speakers learning other languages such as Spanish or Russian. And so if you're a Chinese speaker that does this
Then I
Hope this helps and I hope this helps for the rest of you listen to this as well as we also touch upon
What voicing is and a lot of languages have different voicing rules than English does
So if you've enjoyed this episode
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Let's make your accent amazing
