The New American Food Guide: Doc Give It A Grade

Today we're going into teaching mode, we're grading a paper. The U.S. Guidelines for Food. Food Guidelines. Now, it's in an inverted pyramid shape. Did you notice that? It seems like an odd choice. We're gonna dive all the way in. We're talking about what they changed, what's good, what maybe is not so good, and maybe some of the rationale behind it. Welcome to Talking with Docs, I'm Dr. Bradley. I'm Dr. Paul Zalzel. Imagine if the ancient Egyptians tried that stunt. They'd be teetering on the little point. Napoleon would've loved it. This is gonna be easy. That's right, we'll push it over. And the take-home message at the very beginning is that we're not telling you what specific foods or diet that you have to eat. You always get to pick. We're just gonna try to provide the information, and then you get to make informed choices, whatever works for you. Yeah, absolutely, but you know, I think it's important for governments to put out these food guides. 100%. It's helpful for the population, you see. And our idea was just to go through this new one. They go through, I think they put out a new one every five years or something. Canada doesn't seem to do that, I think. We just did one recently, though. Did we? Yeah, like six years ago or something. Yeah, six. What happened to the five-year? I think because it was so good, it didn't need to be tweaked. And I think the new administration was quite proud of this one. Oh, this year? Yeah, the American government was quite proud of this one, and I'd say it was received with some optimism and some confusion. Yeah, I mean, I agree, too. There's a lot of stuff with which I agree. Some good stuff. There's some stuff with which I'm not sure about, and there's some stuff with which I disagree. Agree. I agree with all that. It's like Goldilocks. Yeah. Just before we jump into the food guide, we thought a little bit about food ourselves. Right, we had done that video about that kind of, the easiest diet kind of ever. Yeah, and we came up with this plate, which we're gonna talk about at the end of this video, so stick around. Okay, so let's first start with the message from the secretaries. You can get this all online. We'll put a link in the description. So the thing that I thought was interesting, which was quite good, is that we're gonna talk about whole, nutrient-dense foods, so a focus on real foods, dramatic reduction, highly processed foods. They mentioned unhealthy fats. They talked about the plight of the standard American diet that was reliant on highly processed food coupled with a sedentary lifestyle, and then later on, they went down to this changes today, kind of mid-paragraph. Yeah, I thought that was cool. I also was interested in the first half of it. They put some references. They provided some references when they're establishing the scope of the problem. 70% of American adults are overweight or obese with a reference. One in three American adolescents between 12 and 17 years are pre-diabetic. Which is shocking. That's a lot. One in three of 12 to 17-year-olds. Right, and they provided a reference, which I thought was great. It was the first time I'd seen this in the food guide. There's reference. Unfortunately, they didn't provide references for any of the recommendations, but at least they provided references to define the scope of the problem. For me, there was one telling line that was a little bit of a red flag for me on the first page. It says, we are realigning our food system to support health of the American people. No, sorry. It was to support American farmers, ranchers, and companies who grow and produce real food. That was a bit confusing to me, to be honest. I thought it was transparent and honest. It's super transparent. It's very honest. I would say, we're putting together this food guide. This is our focus. The sole goal of this food guide is not your health. One of the purpose of this food guide is to help the food economy. Actually, that was the first goal. That was actually the first thing that they said. And then the second paragraph, they said, we're putting real food at the center of the American diet, real food that nourishes the body, real food that restores health, real food that fuels energy and encourages movement and exercise. I don't know that any food encourages movement and exercise unless you have to catch it. Maybe if you're like a chicken farmer, you actually have to catch the chicken. Maybe that would encourage exercise. Some of the food got bad. I gotta get to the washroom quick. Scientific integrity. I thought that was a useful term. I'm not sure that it was always appropriate throughout the whole guide. And then just the take home, and I totally agree with this, and we've said this a hundred times, eat more real food. Yeah, that's the introductory page. The other thing that I found interesting was that the president's name appeared in the food guide. I've never seen that before. I've never seen a prime minister or president's name appear in a food guide. And I think they're gonna have new hats that are gonna be Maha, the Make America Healthy Again. I like that. Yeah, you got the G, you got the H. I is next. So they're gonna figure out something for I next. Okay. But the other thing I really liked was that together we can shift our food system away from chronic disease and toward nutrient density. So the idea is we're looking more towards prevention. Very Socrates. Rather than treating. Yeah. Right? All the E's. So that's the introductory page laying out the groundwork. It's honest. They've referenced some stuff. Haven't referenced other stuff. They've basically said, look, it's not just you we're worried about. It's the food industry we're worried about as well. Which is important for a country as well. But you have to keep that in mind when you digest this. And we talk about bias. So there's some inherent bias right out the gate. Yeah. Now it's not even biased because we just told you about it. Yes. This is what we're doing. Okay, so we're gonna go through each section. We're gonna say, hey, we like it, we don't like it. Thumbs up, thumbs down. Okay, so the first one, eat the right amount of food for you. Love it. Yeah, of course. Love it. Control your calories. We'll look up for portion sizes and hydration. It says it's a key factor to overall health. Choose water. Ideally, avoid those sugary beverages. We talked with one of our nephrologist colleagues about this, Dr. Pandey. I said, kind of eat to your thirst or maybe just to hint beyond. And one of our urology colleagues says, hey, if you look at your pee, it's really yellow, drink more water. If it's mostly clear, then you're probably doing okay. Yeah, and this is one of the things that I think is, and we talked about this in that Twinkie Diet video. It's really calorie reduction or weight loss. And so this just saying, eat the right amount for you. Right. And that's why I'm like, I don't understand an all-you-can-eat buffet. I understand it. I think it's, I understand the lack of your health. You should have an all-you-should-eat buffet. Yeah. Smaller plate, one trip, that's it. But then, but then do you pay according to your size though? Well, all-you-can-eat buffet, you can eat. No, but the all-you-should-eat. All-you-should-eat. Then you can weigh in at the front. They're like, okay, bro, you're 160 pounds. You get this much food. It's $18. I don't know about that. All I'm saying is all-you-can-eat buffet, if you're going in there thinking I'm gonna maximize my profits, it's a bad idea for your health. That would be me, because inherently, I'd be like, I gotta get my value. Yeah, yeah, yeah, get in there. Lift the table up over there. I'll put my plate here. Let's go. And the same thing with the all-you-can-eat wings or all-you-can-eat whatever. It's not generally a good idea to eat with that mindset. I agree. I'm gonna eat all I can eat right now. Right. Okay. So that, I love that. What if you had all-you-can-eat takeout? Oh, well, that driver would be busy at your household. That's it, that's it. That's number one. Eat the proper amount. I'd say one hard thing, though, is- Who ordered this on Tuesday? It's Thursday, and you're still going. I would say some people struggle with knowing how much is appropriate. Like, how do I know what my caloric intake is? There are guidelines available, but yeah, it is tricky with according to your height, your weight, your activity level, and your age. So there are, it's a hard number to know. But you might think, well, my appropriate amount is 2,000. You eat 2,000, but actually it's 1,800. So every day you're actually gaining a little bit of weight. So I think you have to dive in a little bit to find out exactly what that number is. Okay, that's fair. How about if you're gaining weight, reduce it? Yes. If you want to lose weight, reduce it. And we've talked about this before, a nine-inch plate. Right? Yeah. Not an 11-inch. No. Not a charger plate. No. Not a trick. Fair. All right? Fair, so love that. I love that that it's first. Me too. Okay. Okay, number two. Prioritize protein food at every meal. Yep. I like that. I think that's reasonable. And there's been some evidence. Oh, and so where is this, all this coming from? Did the secretary just write up this food guide? No, there was a whole scientific panel. Yeah. And they put out an appendix. It was like 160, 170 pages or more. And that gives all the scientific background. How many people were on the panel? Do we know? And do we know how many of them actually had jobs in agriculture? No, there wasn't a ton of bias in that panel. They used a lot of international research for their guidelines. So a lot of research from France and things like that. Sure. I did look at it, and it was, it seemed legit. The scientific panel seemed legit. But the scientific, the findings of the scientific advisory board don't always match 100%. Right. That ended up in this document. It doesn't translate, kind of thing. They say, here's what we recommend. They say, okay, yeah, thanks. We're gonna do this. So with respect to the proteins, I think where the nuance is is how much you're supposed to get. 1.2 to 1.6 grams of protein per kilogram. Right, which is a shift from the 0.8 that was kind of the standard RDA for a long time. Yeah. I would say most people recognize that probably 1.2 is kind of the new 0.8. I think there's less evidence for 1.6 unless you're like an exercising athlete, you know, trying to specifically gain a lean muscle mass. I think that would be a bit of a push to justify that, but. And the advisory board was clear on that, said you need more research to find out the exact amount. So it seems, you know, so that's, it's discordant with the advisory board to come and say, this is what you need, 1.3, 1.6, whereas the scientific advisory board is like, we're not entirely sure how much you need. I think it's also funny that the Americans are still using grams and kilograms. Yes. It's like that, just that clip on Saturday Night Live with Nate Borghese. Yeah. And he's talking about how they developed all the different measurements. Yeah, yeah. It's hilarious. But grams and kilograms is the best way to do it. What I'm surprised with is that to put that in there, not everyone can do that calculation. Right. First of all, not everyone knows how many kilograms they weigh. I think a lot of Americans would not know. I don't know my weight in pounds for a while, so I'd have to do a conversion, and then I'd have to multiply it out. So can you do that for us, because you have the math. Sure. So let's say the average person is, okay, let's say if you're 160 pounds, let's say. Let's go 154 pounds. Okay. 154 pounds, so that's 70 kilos. Okay, so 70 kilos. Right, so then 70 times 1.2 is 84 grams of protein. Okay. 70 times 1.6 is 112. And he's not on the spectrum, but he can still do the math like it. It's incredible. I'm living on the spectrum. All right, so this is amazing. So what was that, how much protein? So 84 on the lower end. 84 grams of protein. Yes, and then, sorry, 112, 112 for the 1.6. Okay, so 84 if you're around that weight, which you probably aren't. Nobody is. No, almost no one is. Probably a bit more. Most of us are. Honestly, I'd focus on the 1.2. Don't even worry about the 1.2. Okay, so say 1.2, so then, and you said 80 grams around? Yep. So you're looking at somewhere between 80 and 100 grams of protein. Exactly. All right, just to put it in perspective, because you're not gonna do this calculation on your own, I didn't. So 80 to 100 grams. So then you gotta look at how much protein is in the food. Unfortunately, a piece of steak doesn't have the protein it has in it, but a protein bar does. Right, and there are some studies that talk about how much protein can be absorbed per meal. It's certainly debated, but around the 30 grams is the thought. So if you spray 30 grams with every meal, that already gets you to 90. Yeah. What's interesting for me is in paragraph two, so high-quality, nutrient-dense protein foods. Makes sense. Yeah. Ideally, you want them whole foods, as opposed to like a shake or a bar. In a pinch, those certainly still can serve a purpose, or if you're really struggling to find food that has enough protein. But what I would say is like animal sources, it says consume a variety of protein foods. And it starts with animal sources like eggs, poultry, seafood, and red meat. And then as well as plant-sourced protein foods. So what I would say is I think, generally speaking, most nutritionists and health scientists would recommend more plants versus animals for health. Yeah. And I think what maybe the group that looked at this doesn't recognize is that the plants, all plants have protein. And there are certain plants that actually are complete sources of protein. We have a whole video about this. So I think you can get a lot of it from plants. But this kind of shows some of the focus of the eggs, the poultry, and the red meat. And honestly, the subsidies of these industries make sense why this is. Even just dairy alone is estimated to be between seven and $22 billion a year subsidies in the US. We have a whole video about dairy and about the cheese program. So there's some bias, but I think, yes, protein with every meal. So fair to say that they got this wrong with respect to your health? Yes, I agree. And I think you get a lot of pushback from the American Heart Association and different dieticians and things like that. Just about all the science we've come across says go for plant sources first, animal sources second. They've listed animal sources first, plant sources second. So they got that wrong for your health. But maybe that part of it is supporting the industry, as they mentioned. I think for sure it would be. And we've talked before about red meat and cancer risk. I think it's, I think the word nuance, because it just means we don't really get it. But it is a little bit nuanced. Processed meat, not negotiable. Red meat, definitely there's a link. It's probably much less, not probably, it is much less. So it's listed as a probable carcinogen as opposed to 100% a carcinogen like processed meat. Fair, okay. So think about your protein, but it's important. Okay, and then of course they talk about avoid deep frying and go for, how'd it go? It was really good. Nice, a little marinade. Yeah, instead of frying. Okay, so that's protein, cool. Number three, consume dairy. This is a whole paragraph on it's own. Well, it's curious that it was the third thing, like it comes in above whole grains. And vegetables. And vegetables, okay. All right, so. Because we have a whole video about dairy, we're gonna link it. Okay. So yeah. We may or may not link it. I think we might link it. There's a whole lot of subsidy of dairy. So there's a vested interest of the government to say, hey, we wanna support our dairy farmers, which I get. But I think, I think that there's reasonable evidence that dairy has been shown to be not good for you because of the saturated fat. And they actually specifically mentioned full fat dairy. So that's a little bit confusing to me. The other thing that I would say is that, because so many people are lactose intolerant. Right. Like if you did the math on, of the 340 million people in America, African-Americans, 90 to 95% are lactose intolerant. Yeah. And there's about 55 million African-Americans. So that's like 40 million people you're saying you should eat dairy three servings a day. American, Asian people are approaching 100% intolerant. So that's another like. I don't know. Intolerant. Yeah. Yeah, so they're almost 100% lactose intolerant. That's another 7 million people or so you're saying, hey, you should eat three servings of dairy a day. Yeah. Sorry about your gas. And then about 25% of all the rest of the people. If you're from like Northern Scandinavia, your genes have changed enough to maybe have be totally tolerant. But I think it's an odd recommendation. I recognize that it's a good viable source of protein. The saturated fat is concerning. You'd meet your caloric requirements if you're eating full fat dairy. If you're say 2000 calories a day, three servings would meet all of your saturated fat requirements. So that 10% recommendation, which is a bit troublesome, as well as some evidence that shows dairy consumption is loosely linked with both prostate and endometrial cancer. Yeah. Okay, so fair. You're going to get some, they're going to get some pushback from, again, American Heart Association, probably. For sure. Dietitians and. Oncologists. They're going to get some pushback on the dairy for sure. It's odd that it's the third thing they've heard. But I'm lactose intolerant. So I feel like with this statement, they're supporting the toilet paper industry. Yeah, maybe. Heavily. And interesting, the Canadian Food Guide actually says dairy's okay, but recommends low-fat dairy because of the saturated fat. They say, listen, we'd rather remove the fat, not necessarily replace it with sugar, which happened in the low-fat craze. Yeah. But that's something. And I love the gut health paragraph. Okay, yeah. Hey, we're introducing gut health. I love it. We're teaching you about gut health, but basically you've got a ton of bacteria that you're supposed to have in your intestine. And what do they recommend to support your gut health? Vegetables, fruits, fermented food, and high-fiber foods from a diverse microbiome. So there, plants get kind of their- Introduction. There you go. To the next paragraph. Eat vegetables and fruits throughout the day. Yes, okay. Okay, that's, I mean, I like that. Yeah, colorful, makes sense. Those are the ones that have the highest vitamin content in their original form, so they don't want them highly processed. They recommend washing them because of the associated pesticides and herbicides. Frozen, dried, and canned vegetables and fruits can play a role, which I also like. If your preferred flavor is salt, spice, and herbs, do this, obviously, carefully. If you're gonna do juice, careful, no added sugar, and certainly recognize that this is a very dense form of calories. Do you like your orange juice? I do. Every day? Yeah. Every morning I have a glass of orange juice. Yeah, and they recommend three servings of vegetables per day and two servings of fruit, which is interesting because in Canada, we recommend seven to 10 servings per day, like double. In a place where we have, it's harder to grow this stuff. Okay, so I love that. I think they should have pushed more to be honest. Yeah, up above the eat your dairy. Okay, then we go into the incorporate your healthy fats. Yeah. Yeah, actually, you know what? Here they do say more high-quality research is needed to determine your types of dietary fats. Yeah. I thought that was good. I thought that's good, but they said healthy fats are plentiful in many whole foods, and the first three things they mention are meats, poultry, and eggs. If you're gonna get healthy fat from an animal, I would say fish probably would be the first animal that has that. The fish industry is not a big part of the USDA. They just threw fish in with seafood. Fish, yeah, the seafood's stuck in there. Nuts, seeds, full-fat dairy. Full-fat dairy got in there again. No healthy fats there. All is in avocados. So we're really talking about omega-3s, and a bunch of these have saturated fat, which is, it's a really weird choice, and it's odd that the two plant suggestions are at the end. Well, three, I guess, because it's nuts and seeds. Yeah. Yeah, it's odd. Okay, again, odd, and again, the Scientific Advisory Board wouldn't support this and their findings, but it made it into the guide. All right. I think it was honestly a waste of money, I mean, really. Okay. Yeah, but I wish they said, listen, omega-3s are really good for your brain and really good for your heart, and then. But no cardioid is fine, they have full-fat dairy. Well, at least they did leave a way out with the more research is required. Yeah. You know what I mean? That was one good thing, that they maybe put that at the beginning, maybe. Okay, whole grains, focus on whole grains, love it. Yeah, put that up higher. Yeah. Put that before you eat your dairy. No, they don't want it higher. Okay, and that one's supported by the science. Yeah. Easily supported by the Scientific Advisory Board, yes. Yeah, so they said, fiber-rich, we are all about fiber. It has so many benefits for you, really critical. Most people get like 15 grams, you probably should be getting into 30 to 40 grams per day. It says, reduce the consumption of highly processed refined carbohydrates. 100% totally agree. I think people get confused about being afraid of carbs. So refined carbs and sugar, very bad. Whole carbs, like complex starches, are actually very, very good for you, necessary to provide good energy, help restore your glycogen after exercise, and have many, many health benefits. In Canada, we recommend six to eight grains, at least half of them being whole grains. This says, recommends two to four servings per day. Okay, fair, yeah. I mean, they didn't put in the grams that are recommended, as they did with the protein. No, usually they don't, it's like a serving, depending on what the grain is. Yeah, okay, fair. So they're about half of what you do in Canada, they don't, but they do recommend whole grains, so there you go. Fair, I'll take it. All right, take it. Love this. Me too. Limit highly processed foods, added sugars, and refined carbs. This is a big, our kid's really big on this, and I like that he's got some stuff that he's really passionate about, and I think this is one of them that's really important. And you know what, you are sticking it to a lot of big industries. Yes. Big industries, high processed foods are crazy. Yeah. Right, and now we're saying, hey, sorry, we don't want your stuff. Yeah. Because you're killing us. And you're costing the healthcare system a ton of money. So limit foods and beverages that include artificial flavors, petroleum-based dyes, artificial preservatives, and low-calorie, non-nutritive sweeteners. Avoid sugar-sweetened beverages. And it says, while no amount of added sugar or non-nutritive sweeteners are recommended, we should consider limiting it to 10 grams. But I think, yeah, generally speaking, we know that it's not good for us, and we know that it disrupts our microbiome. Even the non-sugary sweeteners, which is confusing, you think, why does it even matter? But, you know, it's still going in, and our bodies are doing something to it. It's messing with the bacteria. And more evidence is coming that they're probably not good for us. Lots of fear mongering about cancer in them. I think the links to cancer for the non-industry is pretty weak at this point. Well, but it's the gut health. Yeah, the gut health, for sure. Okay, and then they, of course, go into what, and they even teach you, say, look, ingredients that end in the word sugar, syrup, or ose, and they've listed a bunch, in case, because sometimes you get tricked, and you're thinking, oh, well, it's agave syrup. That must be good for me. Agave? Yeah, agave, hey, nice. But it's not. How about turbinado? Do you ever use turbinado sugar? No, it sounds like a winter storm. It does. Sounds like a frosted tornado. But even, they've named it clever, like even that last one, the Ace of Fame K, we've talked about that one before, and you'd be like, what even is that? Yeah, it sounds like Special K. Yeah. All right. So there you go. Here it is. This is alcohol. Yeah, so over, the kind of general message of eliminating alcohol, I think, is good. But it says, consume less alcohol for better overall health. Okay, the big difference is what they said before. One to two. It was one to two per day. Two for men, one for women. Per day. So they said consume less, so I like that message. However, it's pretty vague. You think so? Yeah, because I think research, I think, would undeniably say the safe amount of alcohol is zero. And I think you could say, you should consume less, ideally, for health. You should consume zero. Yeah, I think the issue is, prohibition didn't work. I think alcohol is so ingrained in the culture right now. You're not taking it away, you're just telling them that they shouldn't do it. Yeah, but I think then people would just shut it off and say, no, forget it. I don't buy any of this. I'm going back to the old thing. Which is the same risk with when you put the president's name in there. Because you gotta think, you know, these days, leaders win by such narrow margins. Half the population doesn't. Is that, is the U.S. polarized? So, what that runs the risk is, like, if I'm the leader, if I'm the prime minister, I don't want my name in there because you know, half of my population doesn't like me. Right. Right, and if I put my name in there, as soon as they see my name, they're gonna throw this thing in the garbage. Right, it is tricky. And I think the same thing with the alcohol. If you say zero alcohol, they're gonna say, yeah, forget this thing. It's not for me. And it is, that would be unfortunate if nutrition guidelines became political. Yeah. But I honestly think that, I think both the Republicans and the Democrats, regardless of who's in, I still think they pander to agriculture because it's a big part of the economy. And the alcohol industry is huge, too. For sure. For the most part, it's coming easier. I mean, I thought it was nice if they said consume less alcohol for a better life. Yeah, soft line. I think they could have gone further, but sure, better than before. But some people might say, they used to recommend two, but you know, I feel like three's better for my health. Yeah, I guess you could. Right? It's open to interpretation. Right. But they did give good cautions about medical conditions that can interact, family history of alcoholism, be mindful of alcohol consumption, right? If you have addictive behavior. Yeah. So I thought that was really good. Pregnant women don't drink, which is good. So, I mean, I don't have a huge problem with the alcohol statement here. You do, I know, but I don't have it. I just think it's not honest. I don't think it's honest. Consume less alcohol for better overall health. It's intentionally vague. Okay, then they come in with sodium stuff. Yeah, so 2,300 milligrams. We've talked about this. We have a whole video about salt. That's actually one teaspoon. That is a very small amount. If you eat any processed food, you're gonna be meeting your salt requirements. I think some people in the day of pink Himalayan sea salt, fancy salts, worry about iodine deficiency. This is actually very uncommon, but the thing about iodine is interesting. It's critical to make thyroid hormone. Four little molecules of iodine are attached to a tyrosine amino acid to make thyroid hormone. So if you get iodine deficiency, it usually take months of essentially no iodine. So the people that would be biggest at risk, we do who are truly strictly plant-based, no processed food. You could get it, and then I'd say consider adding a little bit of salt. Even half a teaspoon of salt, which is 1,100 milligrams in a teaspoon, you get 150 milligrams of iodine, which is about your daily requirement. So you can do it that way. There you go. Regular old table salt. All right, and then they go into special population, early childhood. So I don't think we need to go into stuff about that. Infants and toddlers. Yeah. They went into a lot of detail there. And I thought this document was good. It's not too long. Yeah. Oh, they do a little section on older adults. I thought the nutrient-dense food I think is really important because often older adults consume less calories. You want to waste kind of less calories with no protein or no vitamins, no minerals. So be a little careful that way. Okay, and then. A little section for you. A little note on the very last page about vegetarians and vegans. And I think interesting here is in the second line, it still talks about dairy and eggs in line two. Like essentially it's first. And then they go beans, peas, lentils, legumes. I thought, come on, like here's your chance. Like really? Yeah, well, I guess that's the vegetarian. I know, but come on. Wouldn't you say plants and then say if you are a vegetarian, put it at the end? Yeah, fair. I agree, limit highly processed vegan foods. Some of them are delicious, but they're definitely not healthy. So if it's an environmental concern, that's why you did it. Makes sense, you know, it saves the animals. But it's not necessarily good for your health. It should be kind of like chips and it can be fun, but you probably don't have to do it all the time. Like highly processed vegan foods. Vegetarian diets often fall short in vitamin D and E, choline and iron. What I'd say about D, everybody's short of D, not just plant-based eaters. So most people would need a supplement. I would take a D. B12 is an issue for many people. 6% of people in the U.S. and greater than 20% of people that are over 60. So regardless of what you eat, if you feel off, you should discuss it with your doctor, consider a supplement, or just take a supplement. Choline, like 90% of Americans don't meet their choline needs. Best sources are actually eggs, liver, and cruciferous vegetables, broccoli, you can get a little bit, but eggs are probably the biggest source of choline. That's why the egg people say, oh, choline, choline, choline. And then- That's why the AI dad says- Does he? Yeah, it was an AI call. One of our AI doppelgangers goes on about it. Yeah. There you go. I liked it. All right, there you go. Overall, what do you give it? What grade do you give this thing? Like a C minus. What? Yeah. That's harsh. I gave it a B plus. Really, eh? You're an easy marker. Okay, maybe a C. I'll give it a C. I gave it a B plus. I just, I'm just confused by, particularly like, yeah, yeah. There you go. C for B. Oh, so, like we promised, we thought about food ourselves. Yeah. And we came up with a little plate. We made a plate. It's a Talking With Docs plate. Nine inches in diameter. It's nine inches on the inside. Yeah. It's a little big on the outside, but that's just to hold the food in. Yeah. So it doesn't go flying off when you turn it around. I like the little lip. Yeah, and then you can see half the plate, or two quarters, are veggies, period. We got a quarter of protein. Yep. And a quarter of grains. Yep. Watch out for the corn. The protein could be plants or animals. Plants or animals. Yep. Grains, remember, corn is grain, not a vegetable. But you gotta get half the plate full of vegetables. This kind of looks a little bit like a Canadian food diet. Agreed, totally agree. A little bit more than that. See how it's not a pyramid? Nobody likes to eat off a pyramid. It's a plate. Yeah. And the idea is it's nine inches, so you're not gonna overflow yourself. You're gonna get enough vegetables. It does look kind of small compared to normal plates, right? Really? Yeah. I can live with that. I could too. Yeah. But I think, historically, they're getting bigger and bigger. Yeah, it's neat. So there you go. If you're interested, check out in the comments section, or check out in the description section. We may have a link. We may not, I don't know, but we might. I don't like it. If we can get a bunch of these made. All right. There you go. Let us know if you like our plate, and if you think you can eat off this plate. There you go. And if you like this video, please like it. Subscribe to our channel. So many of you are still not subscribed, and share it with someone that you think needs a little bit of extra lighthearted information about the American food diet. And remember, you are in charge of your own. See you next time.