Lynda’s New Age Beauty Secrets to Staying VERY Youthful at 75!

Linda O'Day has gathered tens of thousands of followers in just a few months with audiences flocking to hear her secrets to looking and feeling so vibrant and youthful at the age of 75. And today, along with the beauty and wellness tips that have attracted this following to her new age beauty channel, you're going to hear an incredible life story where at just a young age she was given two years to live and had to walk away from a flourishing modeling career with a top agency. But she not only made it through, she made it her mission to thrive in the face of adversity and conquer all she set out to achieve in the worlds of tech, real estate and even horse racing. From bio-identical hormones, skincare, fitness and the most effective beauty procedures she's tried, to life-affirming wisdom and a mindset for manifesting her dreams, every one of us can learn from Linda. Well, Linda, I got to start by saying how absolutely stunning you look. You know, I expected it, but really we're not quite in person. It's through the screen. But absolutely a beautiful woman and remarkable at 75. So I can't wait for this conversation. Thank you. I do. I do appreciate it. And it's not really that I decided, you know, that I just want to stay young. It has nothing to do with that. It's about staying vital and vibrant and making the most of your life into your later years. You know, I just want to keep going and going and, you know, not be dismissed and not be disregarded and not be held back by others' perceptions. Oh, you will certainly not be disregarded. I mean, you have a new YouTube channel that is growing so rapidly, I think because people look at you and see somebody who top to toe is looking remarkable, but also, as you say, there's a vitality, there's an energy there that people want to kind of tap into. So I'll be interested just to hear about your mindset, you know, and we can talk about the beauty side of things as well. But I can tell that there's just a whole package of life experience that's gone into this. You describe yourself on your website as an ex-model, geek, marketing entrepreneur, realtor, mom and nana. Can you just tell us a little bit about your background, having had such a varied and interesting career? Yeah, so I grew up in Washington, D.C., still live here, so I'm not very interesting from that perspective. I became a model, you know, young, obviously, got married young, became a young mom young. And at 19, this was really a critical step for me that changed my trajectory very quickly. So I, at the age of 19, I was in New York just briefly for a modeling event, and then I was discovered by this big agency, Wilhelmina, which at the time it was Wilhelmina and Ford were the two big agencies. And I was recruited for Noxzema and Max Factor and different cosmetics companies and different skincare companies. I mean, it just all happened in a week. It was like this big explosion of opportunities, and my head was just spinning. And anyway, I wasn't sure what to do. It was exciting and all of that. But I then came home, and literally the following week, I was told I had one year to live, two years to live, two years to live. I was diagnosed with an autoimmune illness, and I can laugh about it because obviously I'm still around and doing well after all these years. But the gift that came from it, well, there were several gifts that came from it. I learned how to be strong and brave and all those things. When you have to face the world, I ended up getting divorced. So facing the world on your own, didn't really have family and all that. So it made me strong and courageous because you have to be. And the best thing that happened to me was I was told to stay out of the sun. Okay, so this is what you have. You will probably live two years. I was actually pregnant at the time, and I was told I needed to have an abortion. If I had an abortion, and if I stayed out of the sun, and if I avoided stress, I might live five years. So that was the framework for how are we supposed to proceed. And I'm thinking, so how do you avoid stress under those conditions? That's like the exact opposite of what your world's going to be. But I could avoid the sun. So that's what I did. And looking back on it and seeing how people that I knew who were my same age were aging, and they just baked in the sun and slathered body oil, baby oil all over them. I mean, the things that we did back then or people did back then. Unfortunately, I was one of them. It just it makes such a big difference. So you know, my skin is firmer. Now I've had procedures done. I'm going to talk about that. But you know, my, the quality of my skin is excellent for my age. And that is certainly a big, big, big, big part of it. It took me a few years to figure out I wasn't ultimately going to die. That was the good news. And I got on with a normal, quote, normal life. And I ended up after a variety of marketing jobs and administrative jobs, and just trying to take care of myself in between modeling assignments. I ended up in the horse racing business through an evolution that was actually pretty interesting, but too long a story. But what really changed my life was, in the early 1980s, I fell in love with Excel. It helped me become more efficient and productive in my work. And so it's a software program, right? I'm sorry, the Excel software program, you know, so that adds up every day, manages data for you. So I discovered that and that changed my world. And so I've always looked to, you know, how can you improve your life, whether it's, you know, not necessarily how you look, but you know, the quality of your life, the quality of your work, be better at what you do by using technology. So that became a mindset for me that I have carried through my entire life. But I just get very excited by possibility. And, and that has driven me ever since. So in that world, I was in horse racing, horse racing business at the time. And I got to develop a new computer program for helping you select horses. Wow, created these new entertainment centers where I combined sports entertainment with horse racing, built these very glitzy facilities like Las Vegas, and we attracted all new fans to the industry. And that eventually took me to doing, creating this big plan for sports entertainment centers, it became the ESPN zone. After I worked on it for four years, they ended up building the first one in Baltimore's Inner Harbor. And then that I worked for the end, did some projects for the NFL and the NHL. So I was in sports one way or another, you know, sports marketing in a big way. Now, eventually, that business kind of was real estate got really expensive. It was hard to then build those kinds of facilities. That's when I got into real estate, because I wanted to work forever and ever, as long as I people would hire me. So I thought, well, real estate's a perfect way to do that. And so I ended up developing a website, legendaryhomes.com is that business, and attracted a bunch of new clients and went into business with my daughter. And so that's what I've done for several years. I got a full time job at 70 years old as an executive in a real estate brokerage firm, heading up strategy and innovation, and I got to develop new things again. And it was just fabulous. But my husband became very ill last year. And so I need to be home with him most of the time. And so I'm working with my daughter from here, I handle the marketing, and I handle the website stuff. And now her son, he's who just turned 30. So I have a 30 year old grandson. Oh, wow. So the two of them are running with that business. And so I'm still involved, but from home, mostly. But that is how I started my new New Age Beauty channel. And I started that by developing the website, newagebeauty.com. And now, you know, I've done five videos. So I look at how many videos you've done. And I thought, Oh, my God, will I ever get there? I don't know. Well, do you know your five videos, they have made a splash. That's what it's all about. And people just so intrigued to hear your kind of secrets and tips. I mean, we did talk just before we started recording, you did tell me briefly about your husband's situation. I just want to say again, I'm just so sorry, you know, that he is so unwell, and you were really looking for something that you could do from home. And it's just incredible, really, that everything you touch, I think, Linda, you're one of these people, everything you touch turns to gold. You started this YouTube channel, it's taken off. I mean, why did you think in terms of starting up the YouTube channel and so on, what was it you hope to share with other women? Well, thank you. You know, I've always had a passion for, ever since I modeled for, you know, skincare and makeup, you know, and I'm a girly girl. So, you know, I like things pretty, I'm very aesthetic. I'm a Libra, and I hate to say I believe in astrology, because I really don't know if I believe in astrology. I just know that being a Libra describes the essence of everything that I am. You know, everything has to look nice and be pretty, and everybody has to be treated fairly. And, you know, so it's about justice and beauty. And so that just personifies me. And it's like, you know, did it become that way because we were told that's the way we're supposed to be, or what? You know, it's trying to sort this stuff out. But I'm a Libra, through and through. And so I am very aesthetic. But, you know, I care about deeper things as well. So, you know, whenever I approach something, I try and look at, you know, both angles of it. It's kind of odd. I'll go into Sephora, and they'll ask me what makeup I'm wearing. Or I'll walk into Bloomingdale's, and they say, oh, how did you do your eyeshadow? You know, at the cosmetics counter. I thought, you know, I guess I do know what I'm doing, because I am continually reinforced by that. And then more recently, I have women asking me about, you know, how do you stay so young? And how do you do this? And I thought, you know, that is something I can share, where, you know, as you get older, you get fulfilled by being able to share about what you know, just like you want to learn, you know, I want to learn. And that's the beauty of life is we never stop learning. So I thought, you know, I called it New Age Beauty, because for a couple reasons, it's about aging beautifully, first of all, it's not about staying young, it's about aging beautifully. And it's also about the fact that we live in a new age, where we get to connect online to learn and share with one another. Looking back at my own, you know, journey, you know, I never made a choice. Oh, I want to stay young. I mean, that never entered my mind. I also have never said to myself, you're getting old. That's not how I look at the world. And I don't want, I believe that your words do help reinforce your, you know, reality. So I never say, Oh, well, that's the way it's supposed to be, because I'm getting old. Not how I think. But I do know that I want to remain active, stay relevant, and be able to be who I am, as long as I can. And I think this is one of the things that everybody gets frustrated with. I mean, we think of ourselves, when we were at the peak of our lives, I think, you know, and that's how we still are, you know, in our minds. That's why we don't we stop recognizing ourselves in the mirror sometimes when we get older, because that isn't reflecting who I am, or how I feel inside. So it's not even about staying young, it's about staying who we are, in our heart and in our mind. And we have the whole even bigger issue about how we're perceived, and how society, you know, puts these parentheses around us as, you know, well, she's over in this category. And therefore, she's allowed to do this, this and this, but don't dare go do this, this and this. I mean, so we have the whole societal issues that, you know, about how we dress, and are we trying too hard? And, oh, look, she's trying to stay young, why don't you just let it happen? I mean, just all of these thoughts that, you know, are not particularly helpful. When I take on a challenge, whatever it is, and in this case, we're going to talk about aging being the challenge, challenge, I am relentless, as in, I am incredibly impatient. So got to do it now, got to do it now. But I'm equally persistent. So that, you know, if you're impatient, and you're trying to get stuff done, you get very frustrated. But if you're persistent, then you got to deal with the frustration that allows you to continue to be persistent. So it drives you the combination of being impatient and persistent. And so that's why I tend to get stuff, get it done eventually, because those two forces, you know, bang against each other, and then ultimately, you know, you get it done. What interests me so much there as well, that was when you said, when you were recapping your career, and you said at 70 years of age, you were made an executive, you were put in a kind of strategic development role. In charge of innovation at 70. In charge of innovation. And you know, I mean, I left my kind of profession in journalism when I was about 51. And I've got to be honest, because I'm somebody who talks about aging well, and, and has believed I have an aging well mindset. But in the workplace, I thought, oh, well, I'm getting a bit, I'm a lot older than the people around me here. And I was in an innovation role as well. And it strikes me that because you believed that to your core, or you, you never questioned your age being an issue. Others didn't question your age being an issue, because they're just almost reading from you reading from your energy. I don't know what it is. But clearly, that organization didn't see that as an issue at all. It's very interesting. But I asked myself, so if I had not been keeping up my appearance, and I looked 70, would I have ever been hired? I don't believe so. I don't believe so. And I did think working in media, that was that was one of the reasons that I became kind of aware of how I was aging in the first place was was more the aesthetic of it. You know, am I am I looking my age? How do I continue to stay relevant in this very competitive industry? And then the rest followed, because obviously, I realized, well, your aesthetic is very largely dictated by how you are on the inside. It's it's mind, body, skin, everything. It's all interconnected. What do you feel the the biggest factor has been in maintaining that kind of youthful look, you know, and just just your whole vitality at 75? Is is that mind over everything else? Do you think first? Yeah. So you know, my New Age Beauty, if you look at my website, the logo is New Age Beauty, mind, body, spirit. So it's all how you combine all of those things. How do they work together to manifest your reality? And I actually, this has forced me doing this channel. I mean, you can't really share and teach and all of that unless you really understand the mechanisms yourself. And so it's caused me to go back and reflect. And I created a little diagram that's on my website that shows the things the processes within mind, body and spirit coming together with the goal being the manifestation, whatever that manifestation might be. And so now I actually can put a little what I consider science, you know, to creating, you know, the reality that you're that you're working on creating. And so anyway, I, so that was actually very, very helpful to me. I wonder when that fell into place for you when you realize that, oh, my thinking seems to then dictate what happens in my life. I think that goes way back to when I was sick, because I was then under a lot of stress prior to getting sick, which I think caused a lot of it. And I was so desperate, because I really had nobody to turn to at the time to help me, I turned to books. And I started reading about the power of positive thinking, that it helped me deal with my illness, and deal with the consequences and just get my mind clear that I needed to change how I thought in order not I wasn't it wasn't I was trying to cure myself. I wasn't thinking that way. It was that I have to get through the day. I have to deal with this. What am I going to do? So I needed to change how I was thinking. So because I became well, eventually, I attributed it to that. I don't know if it's true or not. I just know that it took a time in my life that was impossibly difficult to deal with, and changed my thoughts, changed my patterns. And it's been with me ever since. So starting with mindset is the most important thing, for sure. But now I have come to believe that physical vitality, as we get older, it starts with mindset. But physical vitality is the foundation for aging beautifully. So can I tell you a story about? Of course. I am all ears. I was in my late 60s. I did not have a workout program. In the past, I had had some failed attempts. I did Pilates for a couple of years. I wasn't particularly good at it. It was too slow for me. I had done weightlifting many, many years ago, and I didn't like how it was making my neck tense. So I stopped both of those. So my late 60s, mid to late 60s, 66, 67-ish, I was showing a property in a new construction building at high-rise, no elevator service. So we had to walk up four flights of stairs to show them the unit that they were thinking about buying. But after one set of stairs, I was walking to the next set of stairs, I had to sit down. And I totally lost my breath. I could not finish it. I was mortified and, you know, on the verge of tears. And the people I was working with, they were this young couple, and they were so kind, but they were so worried about me. And it was like, they were taking me by the arm. And it's like, what? You feel your age at that point. I'm the strong one here. I'm supposed to be helping you. You're not supposed to be helping me. And it just totally freaked me out. And that week, I went on YouTube and figured out a plan for getting strong again. And I started with the TRX and free weights. Within a week, I had a little studio set up in a very small space in my house, because I knew I wasn't going to go to a club. I don't, just not me. And my schedule didn't permit it. I was crazy busy with work. So within a week, I had a program. And I have been doing, I've evolved the program. I just did one, my second video on the channel was showing the exact routine I did when I first got started. What that taught me was, as I got stronger physically, you know, my posture improved, my stamina improved, how I felt about myself improved, my energy improved. This is all strength training, basically. I became more powerful. How I presented myself changed. I just, you know, I stand up straighter. And that made me start thinking about how we present ourselves to the world. I call it taking up your airspace. I am going to take up all my airspace, meaning that, you know, you're going to know when I'm there, because I'm not hiding anymore. What do they call it, dimming your light? I had gotten to the point where I was dimming my light. I was feeling the weight of getting older. I was feeling, you know, it was just happening to me, because I wasn't reacting. You know, it was just happening. Now, when you think about people aging, what is your visual? You know, it's not all about your face. In fact, that's the least important part of it. I think you can have a face that looks great. And if your body, if you are, you know, not taking up your space and you're dimming your light and, you know, you're letting gravity set in and you're not resisting it, you know, that's far more aging than being able to have, you know, a physical presence because you're strong and you're vital and you're, you know, confident in who you are and your face has wrinkles. That's far more impressive. And, you know, and when I say impressive, what I mean is, is how the world views you. This is what we're talking about. How are you perceived? Because that feeds your confidence. So think about someone, doesn't matter what age they are, in their 80s. And they have perfect posture. Just visualize it for a moment. They have perfect posture. They're standing up straight. You know, they're walking normally. There's no shuffling. You know, they're not bent over. They're not, they don't come across as frail, right? Which is what happens if you do nothing. And that person, you know, walks into a room and you see them and you go, wow, that's a powerful person. It has nothing to do with their age. It's how they are presenting themselves to the world. The only true fountain of youth is exercise. And I would have cringed, you know, 10 years ago because it's not what I wanted to hear. I want to bang the table in agreement. It's just so true. And I think people do want to know what cream you use, what supplement you take to give you the whole look and vitality. As you say, the real fountain of youth comes from being strong. I joined a gym a year ago, but then more recently put a barbell rack in my garage and I work out there with my parents. We're squatting with weights. We're weightlifting. And the difference in them and the difference in me is extraordinary because working out with weights in that way, the strength that brings to your core and into your entire being and how you feel about yourself and about aging is just night and day. And I, if I could get any message out there and I'm sure you're the same, it's to tell people, don't be afraid, do it, find any way you can to do it. You don't have to spend a fortune. Even squatting is an excellent start. Something like a weighted vest and a squat at home will make the most fantastic difference. So I'm so glad that that is one of your key messages there. I mean, in terms of diet and nutrition, do you follow any particular diet? Right now, I have to cook for my husband, which is tragic for him because I'm a terrible cook. And he had always done the cooking. So I'm using those pre-planned programs because he's on a special diet. So I get those little cards and they say, do this, this, this, and this and chop this like this and do, you know, so I need, this is what I need cooking for dummies. And so I am now having to do what I'm doing for him. So I'm not a good example right now, but I will say what has changed my world is bio-identical hormones. Okay. It's not HRT, you know, it's bio-identical hormones where they put your actual, you know, it matches up what true hormones are in your body and you have to get them inserted. You can do creams and things, but I just go ahead and get them inserted every few times a year, a couple of times a year. And I just really feel it when I don't do it. So I'm a big advocate. I know there are people out there who don't necessarily believe in it. A lot of doctors do it. So you have to find a doctor who does agree with that. Otherwise they'll be giving you all of this advice. But most of the doctors, physicians that I go to actually are on it themselves. So, you know, we went initially to help my husband, but then I started doing it and just a big, big, big fan. So, and so I, that has helped to stabilize my metabolism. I don't have the same hunger and, you know, cravings that I used to have. It helps my skin, the hydration in my skin. It helps thicken your skin a little bit. You know, it gives you extra strength and vitality, energy. It's a great source of energy. So my husband and I have been doing that for many, many years. And I was going to say, when did you start? Was that around menopause stage or? It was, I'd say it was right at, yeah, I'd say it was towards the end of menopause. You mentioned supplements there. Are there a couple that are particularly key to, to you? Do you think there's anything that's made a particular difference? Yeah, I love phytoceramides and biotin. They're great for skin hydration, the quality of your skin and, you know, hair as well. So those big fan of those for, for beauty, you know, and, and vitamin D is hugely important as you get older. And especially for people who aren't, you know, just spent, don't spend a lot of time in the sun. So I do a lot of that. And collagen. Yes. Getting ready to try hyaluronic acid internally. Haven't done, have not done that yet. So I'll have to report back on that. So, so I, yeah, I do a lot of supplementation. Now, everybody will be very keen to know if they haven't watched your channel yet, and they will be after this. I can tell you that I'll be linking to it in the description below for them to check it out. But, uh, the, the main treatments and procedures that you've had done and the ones that you think made the biggest difference. Yes. I did a, um, a true confessions, it's called face facts. It was my fourth video, I think, where I talked about everything. So I had surgery 12 years ago and I had my lower face and neck done and I had my eyes done. Haven't done any surgery since then. Now your surgeries don't last 12 years. So the things I've been doing the last several years really has been some progression of that. That's made the big, the biggest difference. Yeah. Because it looks like those results have held up absolutely beautifully. I think I actually look better now, ironically, and it's, you know, just from a variety of things. I've been doing Botox forever. Um, I started, a girlfriend gave me that as a birthday present in the early 1990s. Wow. In LA. And I would be in LA. Yes. Yes. I had a very deep brow. I mean, I just, I frowned a lot with my brow. And, uh, so I started by doing that and I was just amazed. Uh, it made such a big difference, not just in terms of, you know, how, cause I don't have a brow lift. I mean, that's Botox. Uh, that's why I keep looking at myself like, cause it just kind of lifts up. Why? Because it's relaxing the muscles. You know, people call it a filler. It's not a filler. People who do Botox understand it. It's, it is neutralizing the muscle. So it keeps you from tensing. You also feel more relaxed. So that's what I have noticed over the years. Now there's actually been studies and tests about it that, you know, that is actually a fact. So I do, you know, the Botox there, uh, and I do it out here to help with the lines. And then just a little, she does a little right here to keep you from frowning so much. So it's really about undoing the stressors on your face. Yeah. You make me want to get it done again. I was talking myself out of it recently. I haven't had it done in about nine months. Um, but looking at you, you make me want to get that done again. Well, I also do microcurrent, which we'll talk about as well, but I have noticed that when I do the microcurrent, like through this area, I don't feel like I need Botox as much. So I do think it helps with that. Uh, microcurrent does. Um, so what I have been doing most recently that I'm a big fan of is, uh, bio stimulators, Sculptra and Radiesse. Okay. So as you get older, which you don't have, you know, at your age, it's not as big an issue, but as you get older, you get a lot of Halloween in your face. Um, and especially cause I've lost weight gradually over the years, which I'm now at the weight that I want to be at. So you get, you know, kind of a sunken look. So I had Sculptra, I don't know, year before last, I guess. And they, what Sculptra does, it's not really a filler. Um, it's injected. So people consider it a filler. Uh, but what it does is it stimulates your own collagen, like so many things now. Yeah. Now that we understand how important collagen is, which that's why the staying out of the sun has been helpful for me because, you know, it's, it hasn't killed all my collagen from my age. Um, but by using Sculptra or other ones like that, they injected deep, deep, deep into your skin, much more so than a filler. And then over a period of months, it is building up the collagen, which is putting back the way your skin, you lose 1% of your collagen a year. So by the time you're my age, you have essentially none left. Um, and so it's putting back the collagen into your skin naturally. So it's the most natural way to, you know, stay youthful is as, as you lose volume. So you saw a really visible difference, did you, with that Sculptra treatment? There was four treatments over the course of a year. Yeah. And, uh, but yes, it's absolutely keeping this part of my face lifted. And the Radiesse, uh, which is part biostimulator and part hyaluronic acid. I know it's a mouthful, isn't it? Uh, and they do that down here. So I'm very, very, very pleased with those between that and radio frequency and, you know, all the other, um, uh, types of devices that they're doing now. I just think we're on the verge of never needing surgery. I mean, it's a few years away, yeah. But if you start early enough of never, never needing surgery, but if you get to a point where you've lost so much of, you know, your, um, elasticity and there's so much sagging and all of that, then you almost need surgery to undo that. Um, yes, I think so. I would probably add to that. I mean, obviously there is some, there's some bone loss, there's, you know, fat loss and so on in the face, a bit of muscle loss, because that's just what happens as we age. So I do like to, uh, try to include facial exercises into my routine and things like using a skin ruler to get the blood flowing, um, little things like that, I think make a difference. But you know, at my age, I've just turned 52. I think, well, we would, I mean, at the moment, surgery isn't a financial option for me anyway, but I think, would that be enough? You know, um, yeah, with, with everything that I, that I do, I think there is a sort of some reality of skin aging creeps in and you have to make that decision whether you're just going to kind of do as much as you can, but, but stick, stick with what nature, uh, gave you or whether you want to go down a different route. And what you mentioned earlier, I interviewed somebody just recently who's had a facelift and, and she said she didn't recognize herself in the mirror. And I think that would be a very key turning point for most people. If you look in the mirror and you don't recognize the person there, it doesn't match how you feel. And I think if I, if, if I was in that situation and I had the money in my pocket, that is probably what would send me to, to the surgeon. Being able to get the look that you want without surgery is definitely a challenge. We're getting close. Um, but it's, and I think, you know, these treatments I did radio frequency, microneedling, Morpheus eight, about five years ago, four years ago. And that, um, you know, helped tighten here a little bit. Um, but it just revitalized your skin. It was beautiful. I haven't done it ever since. Um, but, um, you know, so these things are all cumulative, but by the time you're spending all of that money on these cumulative treatments, you can get surgery. So it's, yeah. Yeah. It's a very interesting one. I think as well for me, because I interview a lot of different experts, you know, surgeons, uh, cosmetic doctors who do the more of the clinical treatments rather than the surgery. And they will all say different things. So, you know, the surgeons will say, oh, you don't want to do the bio-stimulators because we see changes under the skin with them. Um, then you'll get other people saying, well, those energy treatments. And I have had a lot of viewers who've, who've lost facial fat with energy treatments, but they work brilliantly for others as you found getting the right doctor or the practitioner is key. So there's a lot for people to weigh up. And again, looking at you, you kind of inspire me to try the bio-stimulators, but I'm a big coward. Oh, are you? Well, they don't. I mean, it's like, do you, do you do injectables at all? I have had a little bit of, um, hyaluronic acid filler here just to give me a bit of a lift. Um, and I've had Botox maybe what about once a year, it probably works out for me with the Botox. I eventually go and I start my frown lines get too deep. Um, otherwise not really. I had an all therapy treatment about maybe six, five, six years ago, pre COVID. Well, those were painful. It was extremely painful. Yeah. Well, Sculptra is less painful than that. Yeah. Um, it's something I would consider. There's a little loss of volume here that I would like to do something about. Um, so yeah. Yeah. You're inspiring me. Well, the collagen loss, I mean, that's the biggest thing that happens to us. So the ability to be able to regrow that collagen is just, and I think Sculptra from what I see, the bio-stimulators are doing that better than anything. Yeah. Yeah. And, um, the other thing is I've, I've had heat treatments on my eyelids, but they're never really particularly effective. I have very hooded eyes. So that's a decision as well. Do I just stick with that or do I, do I go for surgery? So I did have, as I said, my eyes done, that was 12 years ago. And I mean, they've stayed the same ever since. I mean, there's no sagging, there's no nothing. I, I'm just really in shock by it. Now underneath you get the, that's they, that doesn't age quite as well out even after surgery, but the uppers between that and Botox is just totally lifted. Yeah. Yeah. No, you look absolutely stunning. Um, do you do a lot in terms of skincare? Yeah. I mean, we talked a little bit about microcurrent, you know, I mean, that's the exercise for your face. I'm a big, big, big, big fan of that. I love microcurrent. I do the, uh, foreo bear that when they came out with their most recent one, it's, uh, the two, uh, it's a lot more powerful than it was. And that's the one I is now my favorite. You know, they say the best device is the one you're going to use. So I believe that. And so I, that one I've tried new face. I tried, uh, uh, zip, uh, that kept falling, slipping out of my hands and put the stuff on to put on your skin. And then that it was just too slippery for me. So foreo is my go-to, uh, and then the, my Sama, um, red light masks. I love red light. Yes. Yes. I use their panel. Um, yeah. Yeah. Yeah. And also love that because it covers, covers a bit more. Yeah. Um, they should, I should start that. So what I noticed about, um, so I have a really good decollete, meaning that it's not, it hasn't aged very much part of that sun, but I was starting to get the crepiness there. I've always used this product nectar firm, which I love. I think it really helps, but I was getting crepey anyway. Um, so it can only do so much. Um, and I, that's when I started with the red light. Okay. And so I use that cheek chest to, yeah. Um, and it's made a difference. I mean, the crepiness is gone now. Mine wasn't bad yet, but if you can use that preventatively, I absolutely believe that that makes a big difference. That's really good to know. Red light. Yeah. Yeah. So to, to use one of the chest mass neck and chest mass as well. And my mom in her eighties, she used a red light cap and um, she's seen new hair. It's, it's, it's obvious she has more volume with her hair in her eighties. So, you know, it's quite powerful stuff. Red light. And that's amazing. Cause you wouldn't think that in your eighties you could be generating as many new cells. So good for her. So on skincare. So, you know, for me at this stage, it's about plumping your skin, you know, cause it gets, you know, um, thinner and more hollow. And, um, so I do love, you know, anything that's going to help doing that copper peptides. You know, I use a lot of those every day before, you know, under my makeup. And I also use, um, there's a company here and you're probably familiar with it, uh, called Dermalac that's come out with some wonderful serums. Yes, I know that. So I use all three of their serums and they're actually very affordable. Um, and so that's how I get all the vitamin A's and B's and D's and C's and just all of that. And are there some acids in there as well? Oh, yes. Yeah. They're all, you know, the alpha hydroxies are in there and, um, uh, pretty much the whole regimen of what you would want from that perspective is included in one of their three serums. Oh, they'll be thrilled to hear you're using their serums. Yeah. I'll tell you. Well, I do. I love them and they're not too much. I use Retin-A in my thirties. Um, you know, the prescription form and loved it, but I just got so tired of the shedding and all of that. So, um, so now I want, you know, more gentle forms of that. So those serums, I just, I swear by, I'm getting all of the key ingredients in skincare through mostly through those products. Peptides being a big one, niacinamide being a big one. Um, and anything that can help put hydration back in your skin. Fantastic. Totally agree with that as well. Um, how about your fabulous luscious hair? Oh, um, so hair, you know, I. Is that all your own hair? That's natural hair? Yeah. At 75. It's incredible. It's shiny too. I mean, it's really just. Believe it or not. I, um, just started to turn gray literally in the last three months. So I had a grandmother who didn't turn gray until she was in her seventies. So, you know, genetics, you know, that's the best treatment to have is genetics. My own hair is that dirty dishwater blonde color that just has no life to it. So I've been highlighting it forever and I have just never, ever stopped. And now, um, I don't know what's going to happen now that that's coming in. It's going to have to change, but it's shiny because of the way it's highlighted. I don't. Yeah. But this is just, it's just the, the volume is very impressive for your age as well. And the condition of it, that it's not sort of fly away, just looks smooth and sleek. Really, really impressive. And just your underlying condition, your, your health is obviously sort of feeding into that as well. The only thing that's broken down on me is my hands. I have bad osteoarthritis in my thumb. So I can't write my name anymore. Can't, I can't write at all, but I doesn't affect my computer skills. Thank God. Cause your fingers are moving in a different way. So, um, so I'm good there chopping vegetables. I take the vegetables over to my husband's who's sitting down and he'll, you know, help chop some of the vegetables for me. So that's a bummer, but, um, my health, you know, I just, you know, I don't know. It's so funny. I was given two years to live when I was 19 and here I am. And recovery from that. I must ask you because of that extreme diagnosis. I mean, you talked about mindset. Was, was there any other, uh, specific treatment or how did you turn that situation around or did you just naturally improve? I believe my illness. Well, they know that my illness was triggered by stress, that stress was making it worse. So working on my mind was hugely important. And then my life started to get better after a few years anyway. So that helped. So, uh, and then my life actually got good. Um, and so, you know, I, I hate to, I hate to talk about how, you know, my mind turned my health around because you don't want to give false hope to people who, you know, may have more serious conditions. So I don't know how much, I know I was very, very ill. Um, and so, but I also know that stress was the contributor. I could feel it. I could feel it happening to me, uh, the cortisol levels. And, um, so I, you know, I just don't have all the answers that way. I just know what it did for me. My mindset got me out of what was causing all of that to happen. It lifted me out of it. Um, and then ever since then I've, you know, been on a good path. So we are running low on time and I'm going to get so many people saying in the comments, I can't believe you didn't ask for this and you didn't ask for that. I apologize for them now we ran out of time, but I do want to know, um, what mindset you're bringing to the next 10 years? You know, what do you think 85 will look like for Linda? Oh, so a million trillion followers. That's for sure. I hope so. That would be nice. So I, I know one thing I will continue to be strong, physically strong. Absolutely. I will continue to own my space in the world. What I mean by that in real estate, there's such a thing as you kind of own the land under the property and up into the sky. So I think we all have our own airspace and my arms stretch this high and go this far, and I'm going to own it all. Um, which basically means owning who you are and having confidence in who you are. So I'm going to continue that. Um, and you know, and that's by being physically fit and standing up and feeling good about who I am. And you know, no matter what my age is, I'll have more sagging and more wrinkles. Um, but I think the most important thing with everybody is, you know, always be open to learning, growing, evolving. YouTube is such a gift to the world. Um, and I mean, you look at Instagram and that's kind of fun and you look at all these different channels and they all have a different purpose, but that's in my mind, that's more entertainment and it, you know, and it can spark some inspiration for sure. Uh, but YouTube is where you can get serious about learning. Um, and you know, one of the reasons why I think my channel took off pretty quickly is you need to know what you need to do because YouTube's owned by Google. It's all about search engines and algorithms and all that. So I studied on YouTube, how to, you know, what do you need to do? You have need to have a good thumbnail. It needs to stand out so people see it. You need to have a title that's going to resonate, you know, just, so I learned on YouTube how to do YouTube. Well, you know, learning, always learning and whatever it is that interests you. So I think that is key to your mindset as you get older. So I will be doing something. I'll still be wearing eyelashes at 85. I bet on it. They'll be making fun of me, but I'll still be wearing them. Oh, I love it. Linda, it has been an absolute joy to talk to you. Um, really one of my favorites. I could just, I could keep going. I hope it's not the last time. Thank you. Thank you so much. That means a lot. I appreciate it. I'm happy to be here and to meet your followers. And, um, you know, it's pretty amazing what you've done. You've got an unbelievable channel with such great content. And, uh, I was following you before you knew I existed. I was absolutely thrilled by that. I thought it was amazing. Yeah. Thank you. You know, it's one thing listening to somebody in their thirties or whatever, talking about skincare and so on, but I think as well, you really are proof of, uh, of what does and doesn't work. I think that's why people are so, so drawn to, to you and just, just the wisdom and the warmth that, that you share with people as well. It's really, it's, it's joyful. It's wonderful. Thank you so much. Thank you so much. Well, you could probably tell that I absolutely loved talking to Linda and she put me in mind of another very inspiring guest of mine. Who's also in her seventies and that's 72 year old bodybuilder Renee Lander. So I'm going to link to that interview below along with a few other suggestions of related conversations and content. I think you'll love. 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