Iran is signaling a clampdown on anti-government protests, challenging President Donald Trump's pledge to support peaceful demonstrators. According to the Human Rights Activists News Agency, the death toll has risen to at least 62 people. Ellie Cohanim, a former Deputy Special Envoy for the U.S. State Department, who fled Iran with her family as a child during the 1979 Islamic Revolution, joined NTD to discuss these latest developments.
Welcome back. I'm Tiffany Meyer. Iran is
signaling a clampdown on anti-government
protests challenging President Trump's
pledge to support peaceful
demonstrators. According to the Human
Rights Activists News Agency, the death
toll has risen to at least 62 people.
Joining us now to discuss these latest
developments is Ellie Cohen, who fled
Iran with her family as a child during
the 1979 Islamic Revolution. She served
as a deputy special envoy for the State
Department during the first Trump
administration and is currently a senior
fellow at Independent Women and a host
for Al Arabia English. Alli, thank you
so much for joining us. First, how are
you viewing this latest protest? Is
there more momentum, enthusiasm past
ones? Tiffany, it's great to be with you
and I would tell you that um this wave
of protests does seem different from all
previous uh waves. And the reason is um
twofold. One is that we have seen the
movement start with um financial crisis
with the Iranian currency hitting a
historic all-time low about 13 days ago.
But then the protests went from um from
again the economic crisis to clear
chance in the country for uh death to
kame for uh calls for resa the crown
prince in exile and for the end to the
regime. So we've seen a clear um demand
by the people of Iran for the downfall
of the regime. So that's been a a
significant difference. The other
significant difference I would say is
the uh reaction of President Donald J.
Trump in that for the first time we are
hearing a US president clearly tell the
Iranian regime if you hurt kill
protesters you're going to get hit hard.
>> And on that last part would you say that
President Trump has given the
demonstrators hope?
>> Oh absolutely. Um, I can tell you as an
Iranian American that um I have Iranians
in Iran reach out to me constantly on
social media and um they're always
asking for help. They're always looking
to um what is going on in the United
States, specifically in the White House.
And um look, there's a stark contrast
between how Barack Obama responded in
2009 to the Green protest movement to
again what we're hearing from President
Trump today, which has been, you know, I
would say about fourth or fifth time we
heard from him in a press conference
today reiterating uh his warning to the
Iranian regime. And I think if you take
President Trump's warnings in light of
the recent US operation in Venezuela,
removing Maduro and and extraditing him
to the United States and also in light
of the 12-day war in which the United
States um fully destroyed the Iranian
nuclear program. Uh if I were in the
regime's shoes, I would be taking these
threats very seriously from President
Trump.
And of course the big question now is
could this latest wave of protests lead
to an overthrow of the regime? What are
your thoughts?
>> Oh yeah, absolutely. I think again
because this time is very different all
those factors that I mentioned. Um look
the 12-day war as an example really left
the regime completely exposed and
vulnerable and its own population knows
that the Israelis wiped out Iran's
missile system. Uh their skies are just
completely open for further attack. the
nuclear program was decimated by the
United States and also the Israelis took
out the top leadership not just of the
nuclear program but also of the IRGC.
And so, you know, you you combine that
with 47 years of oppression and
repression by this uh theocratic radical
Islamist uh dictatorship and um you know
all of their violent oppression, the
fact that they have taken a very oil
rich and energy energy rich country and
somehow have left the uh population
impoverished. All of those factors
together combined have led to this
moment which is um the Iranian people
wanting to take back their country. I
think if you want to understand it from
the a person's perspective, the way they
see it 47 years ago, the Ayatolli
um made all kinds of promises of free
housing and free this and free that. And
it's something that I think in the
United States we're hearing more of
these days from our own politicians. And
so the Iranian people 47 years ago were
were sold a bill of uh a fake bill of
goods. For 47 years, they have been
victims of this oppressive regime that
has carried out violence against them
over and over again. And so now, 47
years later, I think the Iranian people
just want to correct a historical
mistake. And that's the reason why
you're often hearing chants in Iran of
Javid Sha and um which means long live
the sha and also uh chants that are
saying that this is the final battle and
pavi will return again. this um call for
the prince, the crown prince in exile,
the sha in exile to return to Iran. They
want to correct what they believe is a
mistake that took place 47 years ago in
a history of a very proud and ancient
people.
>> Well, Ellie Cohen, thank you so much for
joining us.
Good to be with