Does Discipline Equal Freedom?

Dr David Maloney Psychotherapy
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Dr. David Maloney is a Psychologist and therapist. His has trained in a variety of techniques (person-centered, Gestalt, ACIM, psychodynamic) and works with people on a wide variety of issues. His main areas of expertise are in self-esteem, motivation, and relationships.
I want to make a video on a concept that
I hear a lot of people talking about in
selfhelp and uh personal development and
the idea is you may have heard it
yourself. It's that discipline equals
freedom. Right? A lot of people um
suppose this idea and it's an
interesting one but I want to give my
own personal take on it here. Um I want
to I want to steal man the the idea
first and make sure I'm representing it
well. and I'll give my own thoughts on
it and I hope it'll give you a different
way of thinking about it. Um, and maybe
even a deeper understanding of what it
means this idea that discipline equals
freedom.
So, what does it mean discipline equals
freedom? Well,
the way I think about it, it would be
this, and I've mentioned this myself in
the past.
Let's say when we're procrastinating in
life,
we are often avoiding important work or
important goals that we have and we're
engaged in things like playing video
games and watching TV and things that
are kind of traditionally I guess seen
as a waste of time, right?
And
we are doing fun things, but there's no
real enjoyment in them when you really
look at it because it's those
experiences of playing video games when
when you're, you know, avoiding the the
goals that you might have. They're
infused uh typically with this sense of
guilt. So, are we actually enjoying it
at all is the question. And I would say
there's a great argument to be made that
we're actually not enjoying it. Right?
It's it might feel preferential to do
that instead of the work that we have on
or the goal that we want to do, but
we're not actually enjoying it because
of the guilt. So, in a sense, there's
this like
there's the hard way and then the really
hard way. The hard way is discipline
equals freedom, which is you're
disciplined in what you're doing and
then you can really enjoy the things in
your life like video games and all these
other things and just maybe not having
any goals, being free. That's hard. But
what's harder actually, which doesn't
look harder, but actually is harder is
that thing where you procrastinate and
put off those things. And so you're
actually not making progress on your
goals, but you're not actually even
enjoying yourself because you're doing
the enjoyable things, but it's infused
with this sense of guilt. So in that
sense, discipline equals freedom makes
sense. It's like, okay, I if I can just
get organized enough and do this
important thing, I will be able to feel
a sense of freedom and enjoyment in
those other aspects of life. Discipline
equals freedom. Makes sense. And I agree
with it to a large degree. But here's
the thing I really wanted to to say in
this video, right?
When I think when most people hear
discipline equals freedom, most people
say, "Yeah, that makes sense. That's
true for me."
But here's the thing. How many people
feel comfortable saying freedom equals
discipline?
Just going to let that sit there for a
second.
How many of us feel comfortable as
comfortable saying freedom equals
discipline?
I think not many. And just to sit with
your own reaction to that, do you feel
that's a a more risky statement to make?
Now, it's literally the same statement,
right? If if discipline equals freedom,
well, you know, if you've done basic
level mathematics, you flip that
equation around, it's the freedom equals
discipline. It must be true. If they're
equal, it's it has to be the case that
freedom equals discipline. And that is
the part the deeper understanding of
this philosophy that's missing in our
culture.
Yes, discipline equals freedom, but
freedom equals discipline.
what it looks like
practically speaking.
I mean you can you can obviously see how
freedom equals discip uh uh discipline
equals freedom works in a practical
level. You get disciplined, you do the
thing and then you experience the
freedom, right? How does freedom equals
discipline work?
You put in non-negotiable guilt-free
play into your life. Now it's not it's
not a a thing that you negotiate on.
It's I'm I'm doing this. This is set in
my life is something that's
non-negotiable.
That leads to discipline.
Our culture is very very wary of that
strategy. It feels very comfortable
telling us to be more disciplined and
then you can have your freedom. But in
my experience, if you can start to get
good at guaranteeing your freedom, you
are much more likely to be disciplined,
to engage with those goals or work
things that you maybe tra in the past
have avoided.
And I promise you that's true. It makes
it 10 times more likely that you'll be
able to engage with it. If you if you
stop seeing rest, play, enjoyment as
essentially a secondass need that you
have. The need for discipline or I call
responsibility is a need. But our
culture tells us that that need is is
ordinate and play and spontaneity and
relaxation are subordinate to that. So
no, but discipline equals freedom.
Freedom equals discipline, right?
They're actually in the same level here.
They're the same thing. Now, that So, if
you see anyone talking about that idea
online, it's typically coming from a
self-help, self-improvement, push
yourself mentality. And it's true. It
has some truth to it, but I I wonder
sometimes if there's a deeper
understanding
of it, if they've really considered what
it means. Freedom equals discipline is
just as true. And from in my experience,
it's the part of the equation that
people feel uncomfortable with.
So
if you can become comfortable with that,
you start seeing that your freedom, your
play is not contingent on anything else.
It's its own thing. It's equal to
discipline. It's just as important. So
therefore, it can't be contingent on it.
You become a very, very different
animal.
very different. You stop treating
yourself uh or your own needs or one of
your needs was the need for play and
spontaneity and relaxation as a
secondass citizen within yourself,
right? And you lose all the resistance
that was there before due to that um
ranking of your needs.
So I think subtly what discipline equals
freedom really means is discipline comes
first and is more important than
freedom. when that's not really what
it's saying. It's saying discipline
equals freedom. So freedom must be equal
to discipline. So practically speaking,
what you can try is like you may say,
well look, I feel uncomfortable about
that giving myself this this freedom.
And that's because in the past, more
than likely when you did have freedom,
it was in in infused with guilt. You
were feeling guilty about it all the
time. And that's because you weren't
taking it seriously. You weren't doing
it on purpose. you weren't doing it with
intention. How you take the guilt out of
it is you do it on purpose. Most of us
kind of fall into video games or find
ourselves watching TV when we, you know,
should be doing the other project or
whatever. And when you fall into
something, it's unintentional and that's
when guilt comes into it. But if you can
say, okay, I have to take freedom really
really as just as as seriously as as
discipline.
Okay. Well, I would have no problem
scheduling discipline. I'm going to
schedule freedom.
When you schedule it, you're doing it on
purpose and are far less likely to feel
any guilt about it. Right now, that's
truly restorative actually when you're
actually enjoying something like that
and there's no guilt. The guilt actually
makes it so that you can't actually get
any benefit out of it. Really, it makes
it worse. So,
I want you to
do me a favor, right? If you see anyone
talking about this idea online, share
this video with them. And I'd like to
get their feedback because I think it's
a pretty common idea out there. And
again, I don't necessarily disagree with
it. But I think for a lot of us, there's
a nuance missing with it. Discipline
equals freedom, but freedom equals
discipline. And that's the part that
we've been missing. So if you see anyone
talking about online, share this video.
Let's get a debate going on this. Maybe
I think it could do with a little bit
more nuance in in the discussion around
that. And uh it would be um interesting
to hear from the advocates of that what
they think of it. Maybe
if you disagree with this, tell me
below. I'll read it. Maybe I'll even
make a response video to it. If you're
adamant that discipline is essential for
freedom and it's ordinate to it and it
must come first,
it's the, you know, you you can't have
your dessert until you finish your
broccoli, right?
Well, okay, tell me about it below in
the comments and let me know. But, uh,
if you did enjoy this video, you know,
let me know that as well if you found it
useful. And, um, I hope it was. And, uh,
I'll see you in the next video. Hope
that was uh interesting and uh take care
of yourself until next time. Okay,
bye-bye.
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