Manifesting A Music Empire: Jason Derulo's Keys to Global Success

It's easy to kind of continue life and forget where you started, but like, I'm from the most humble beginnings that anybody can ever imagine. And my family is from one of the poorest countries on planet earth. But I made that decision, you know, for myself, that this was going to be my life. You have this certainty and belief in yourself. Where did that come from? Like, were you born with that belief? I was born with the gift of knowing exactly what I wanted. Because a lot of people, they just don't know what they want to do. You said about singing your name. And so I'm sure everyone that comes up to you sings your name to you out in public. And I thought about introing you that way. And thank you for not doing that. Yeah, I'm like, I'll be original. My name actually means healer. Jason means healer. You have to be so sure about yourself. In calling this book, Sing Your Name Out Loud, it's kind of like unapologetically saying, I love me and I think that I deserve the best. One of the manifestation techniques that I use is to visualize, to use my imagination. Using our manifestation actually connects us to God and God delivers us through the imagination. So I can feel that you feel that by your reaction. Before I go out on stage, I visualize what I want to look like in that moment. I'm imagining everything. And your imagination is the one thing that I feel like is a strip from you. As soon as you become an adult, you're not allowed to imagine anymore. Right? As you're growing and ascending and achieving more in your life, how do you deal with when someone is critical or you read some comment that's not so nice? I've utilized negative comments to make myself a better version of myself because sometimes... Welcome back to the Manifested Podcast with Kathleen Cameron. I'm actually inviting you into my life, into one of my manifestations. So if you've been listening to this podcast, you know that I have a vision of hearing the manifestation stories from some of the people around the world that have done what we would call the most successful things that have made the most money, the biggest impact that are really changing the world in really, really huge ways. And so today is one of those beautiful interviews and one of those beautiful manifestations. So welcome back. And today I have as my guest, who doesn't really need much of an intro, Jason Derulo. Welcome. Thank you so much for coming and sharing your story. I had the opportunity of taking a peek through and reading your book. And as I was reading it, I could hear much of the theory that I teach around manifestation coming through in your daily life. But I would love to know from you, what do you think manifestation is? How would you describe it? I actually learned about manifestation from my mom. And it was more of a religious thing for us, because in the Bible, it states that the tongue is really powerful. And whatever you say, whether it be negative or you say something positive, it will be the truth. You know, the more that you speak positive on your life, the more positive things will come. The more that you speak negative on your life, those negative things will come. And so much so that I learned how to speak about myself. I learned how to watch what I say, because sometimes it's like those little simple things where we're just like, I can't believe I can't I can't do this. I just can't. Like if you say that you can't, you really cannot. But I try to be really careful with how I speak about myself and how I speak on to the people that I care about as well. My philosophy of manifestation is a little bit different. I combine both like feminine energetics with the masculine energetics. So it's like the doing, the showing up, the grinding, the getting it done. But then it's also the feminine, which is kind of that softness, that spirituality, that letting, that surrender, that presence. So I define it as spirituality meets personal growth and development. I love it. So what I would love to know for you, is there a place for spirituality in your life and in your world? And how does that show up in your manifestations? Yeah, because for me, manifestation and the power of the tongue is all rooted in spirituality and all rooted from my beliefs in God. I believe that he's given us the power of the tongue and it's up to us to utilize it appropriately. And I don't know that people really understand the power that it has. For me, when I'm speaking and sometimes when I speak, other people around me would like think that I'm crazy and have always, like throughout my whole life. When I say the things that I believe to be true, when I say the things that I'm manifesting, when I'm thinking about tomorrow, when I'm thinking about what I want for myself, when I'm thinking about what I want for my family, people think that I'm crazy. All the time, though, like it's an everyday occurrence, you know, from simple things like, you know, like speaking about like my family, like my dad, I'm like, Dad, like you can like really get the muscle back that you had when you when you were in your 30s because my dad used to be brolic. And I'm like, you should go back to the gym because this is for you. And he's like, no, no, I'm too old. I'm like, no, you're not to stop saying that. But this is, you know, an everyday occurrence that that happens with him. I always say that whatever you believe to be true will always be your truth. You will naturally just express that truth. But I love what you're saying about people thinking you're crazy. So one of the things I say all the time is that I'm living in the delusion until the delusion becomes my reality. So I will create this idea in the mind that's so wild and crazy and out there that outside of that, people are looking at me like, is she for real? But then eventually they're like, oh, OK, yeah, that makes sense. It happened. So for you, do you create these delusions and live from those delusions? Would you say that's what you do? One hundred percent. And if I just take a look at my life, it's easy to kind of continue life and forget where you started, right? And forget what your dreams were before as they come true one by one by one by one. But like I'm from the most humble beginnings that anybody can ever imagine. My family is from one of the poorest countries on planet Earth. And my life is not it's not a story that people would believe to be true. You know, if you looked at all the odds that were against me. But I made that decision for myself that this was going to be my life. I was going to accomplish this. Then I was going to accomplish this and I was going to accomplish this. But I think one of the more important things is that. I took it one day at a time, so it can be really daunting when you're looking at like a specific goal and you're like, I want to be the greatest that is, you know, I want to be the greatest it is of all time. That can be daunting. Like if you're a young kid and you're you're you're looking at this goal is like, how can I have accomplished that? I think it's important for people to know that. You should set smaller goals that are attainable so that, you know, when one day you look up, then you're like, OK, I'm in a totally different place than where I started, you know, as opposed to looking at that goal and being like, this is crazy. I'll never get there. What I thought was really beautiful in the intro of your book was you you said something about how you have this certainty and belief in yourself. And because of that certainty and belief in you and what you're accomplishing, that's what essentially creates it. Where did that come from? Like, were you born with that belief? I do feel like I was born with that belief. I was born with the gift of knowing exactly what I wanted. And I truly believe that's a gift, right? Because a lot of people are they they just don't know what they want to do. I feel like my greatest gift was knowing exactly what I wanted to do very, very early on. And having that certainty and moving towards it every day. Definitely. One of the things one of my favorite authors. I don't know if you've read the book, The Science of Getting Rich. It's an original manifestation book. And actually, the docu series, the secret was based upon it. But what he says is that our thoughts are the magnetic power that draw everything to us. But our actions are what make us open to receive. So for you, you could think about and dream about this life that you're living today. But you had to take the action in order to receive that. So what was that action piece like for you? I'm assuming discipline and commitment, stuff like that. Definitely. It's also about working smarter, too. I think in a lot of instances, people feel like they have to do it all themselves or that they can do it all themselves. But I talk about the importance of a hive within this book. And sometimes you don't have the right people around you. But that's something that can come with time. And when it is just you, it is about that tenacity. It is about, you know, spending all your time and energy and making sure that you are the best version of yourself on a daily, you know, like make sure that it's a daily thing. But, you know, when you're looking at the full spectrum and as you continue to grow, you want to add puzzle pieces so that you can accomplish your goal easier. And for me, I was able to find those pieces to the hive pretty early on as well. Yeah. Community is so important. I remember beginning my journey. I was a registered nurse working in hospitals for 12 years, and then I launched my own coaching academy and business. And I built a community. I built a community of individuals that were like wanting to succeed and thinking along the same lines. And that really keeps you in that opportunity to elevate. So I agree with you on the hive thing. Yeah, it's something totally different, which I love. I was thinking about this this morning. I was thinking about your journey and and you've been doing this for a long time. I think it's something like 20 years or something. You've had like three. You've had songs in like Billboard charts over like three decades or something like that. Yes. Yes. So one of six artists is one of six. It's pretty, pretty impressive. That's amazing. So when you think back to that, though, what was one of your like first manifestations or like goals that you achieve that you can remember that got you like the most excited, like I can do this? Honestly, my goals were never attached to numbers. My goals were more attached to affecting people. Impact, you know, yeah, impacting people. And and I always wanted to be able to impact the world. I always wanted to be able to have a sold out show and be able to have people enjoy the material that I was putting out. And I think that that pure heart, you know, the pure intentions played a massive part in my success as well, because I think we're all put on the earth for a specific reason. I think we all have a light inside of us. Right. And we just got to figure out what that light is and and what our service is going to be to the world. And I believe my service here was to be a healer of sins. And my name actually means healer. Jason means healer. Yeah. So I believe I was here, you know, for that purpose. And, you know, having that that pure spirit, that that goal to impact people, the money just kind of follows the fame, follows all those things follow. But I if I had to do it for free, I would do it for free. You know, it's my favorite thing to be in the studio and make music. It's literally my favorite thing in the world. And if I didn't get paid to do it, I would still do it. I actually say that all the time that I would now not nursing, but the woman I am today, the teaching that I do, the coaching that I do. I say the same thing. I would do it for free. And I think because of that, the desire to want to impact people and make an influence makes a difference. And I think that's why, like we're sitting here together today is because I answered the call to good to elevate collective consciousness through this work. And now your story is part of that vision to do so. So I think that's beautiful. I was also thinking about your journey and all the things that you've accomplished and all the successes and the accolades and all that stuff. But the journey couldn't have always been easy. And so a lot of people along their manifestation journeys will be hit with struggles or roadblocks or they'll get nose. So what are some of those that you faced along the way and how did you overcome them? Yeah, I've had very the roadblocks came way too often. I think my roadblocks propelled me to the next level each and every time. And I'll mention three of the biggest roadblocks. My first roadblock was making it to L.A. I got my first publishing deal. I wanted to be an artist, but I got a publishing deal first. They wanted to sign me as a songwriter. So I came out to L.A. and I was going to write songs for for other people. And I was like, listen, like whatever I got to do to be closer to the action, you know, yeah, get into the energy. Yeah. So I came out to L.A. And my first order of action was to try to make an impact so that they understood that I was an artist. So when I was recording these demos, you know, I was doing it in a way that I felt like was me, you know, and I was going to, in turn, like take all of these songs and I was going to put it on a demo and then I was going to go and shop for a deal. But oddly enough, those songs started to get placed with different artists and whatnot. And I just started to become a bigger songwriter. And finally, J.R. Rhodam was like, man, you should be an artist. I was like, that's what I'm doing here. Damn, that's what I'm supposed to do this whole time. But that time period was really tough for me. I came out to Los Angeles. I spent the majority of my money on a car and a place to live for the place that I bought was way too expensive for me. My mom was like, what are you doing? You're going to run out of money in three months. And I was like, exactly. She's like, wait, wait, what? I'm like, if I run if I run out of money, I'm going to have to figure out how to make more money, so I'm going to make more money and I'm going to have to figure out how to live here. You put yourself on the hook. I did. Yeah, I wouldn't recommend that. I don't know if that's the route to go, but it ended up working. Yeah. And I ended up getting that that record deal and then I was able to pay for for my living. Yeah. The second big roadblock was in 2013. I believe I broke my C2 vertebrae. Oh, wow. And it shattered my whole world. You know, this this break was a hangman's break. So it's the same break that happens when you you get hung. So it was either not being able to walk again or even worse. Yeah. I was actually out for seven, seven months. I had to have this neck brace. I wasn't able to shower myself. I wasn't able to tie my own shoes. I wasn't able to do anything for myself. And you talk about somebody that was on top of the world and then then everything was gone. I was preparing for this world tour was my biggest tour that was coming up at that time. And and then I had to cancel the whole thing. And then I just didn't know where my life was going to head. I didn't know what the future had for me at that point. And at my lowest low, I feel like I'm able to thrive when my back is against the wall. And I always rely on routine. So instead of feeling sorry for myself or instead of, you know, you know, crying over, you know, everything has happened. I built a plan, you know, in every single day. I was going to follow the same exact thing. Woke up at the same time. I went to the studio at the same time. I worked out whatever that meant for you. At the same time in and I, you know, I wrote songs for the for that specific amount, a specific amount of time every single day, same time, every single day. And I relied on that routine. And in that routine, I was able to write my most successful album, six platinum songs off that particular album when I was at my lowest low. And the same thing, you know, within the pandemic, you know, I I didn't know how to social media. Right. And I was trying to figure out how to get people's attention on social media. I had sold 200 million records, but nobody could connect my name to the songs. Weirdly, right, because I sing my name in the song, but it couldn't connect my face to the songs. So I was like, I'm going to figure this social media thing out. And this is the perfect time to do it. The world has stopped. I choose TikTok. All right. So I start posting six times a day. It's a non-negotiable. It's a routine every single day. I'm going to shoot from this time to this time. I'm just going to have to figure out what I'm a post. Six is six times a day is a lot of times the post. Right. So I started to post six times a day. And then I'm trying to figure out what I'm going to post and in trying to figure out what I'm a post. Since it's a non-negotiable, I have to post no matter what. So I started to post anything. And then you got to see what people liked. Exactly. And it's that freedom. It's that carefree nature that allowed me to like really let let loose and and kind of figure out what that meant to me. But those were, you know, times in my life where I felt like I was able to like really rely on routine. Yeah. And I think what's so interesting in those kind of like road blocks or setbacks that you talked about, especially the one with your vertebrae, the universe will always in the moments that it requires you to stop and to like regroup and to rest and to settle. It'll give you an opportunity. So it was like it needed to do something to get you to slow down so you could work on that album that was going to come next. Right. So even in those moments, we can just know that it's working out. It's all happening for a reason. And it'll one day reveal itself. You said about singing your name. And so I'm sure everyone that comes up to you sings your name to you out in public. And I thought about introing you that way. And thank you for not doing that. Yeah, I'm like, I'll be original. But what I actually love about this, and it is the it's in the name of your book. What is it? Sing your sing your name out loud. I actually think this is so brilliant when it comes to manifestation, because there's a lot of underlying things in that. Yes, it's a brand and it's a marketing thing. But if we think about it, when you decided to sing your name out loud, you had to think pretty highly about yourself, about the path that you were on. You were actually thinking from where you were going when you did that. Definitely. So can you tell me, like, how did you come up with that? And then do you think that that continues to play a role in your manifestations? Yeah, I that's why I ended up calling the book singing in my lab, because I feel like it was symbolic to such a greater good than people realize. When I was 18 years old and I was in that studio and I sing it for the first time and I figured out what what that what that tag was in that moment on my mind was just. This is an opportunity for the world to hear me for the first time, and it could be my only opportunity. So if this is my only opportunity and I'm going to have somewhat of a stage, I want people to get to know me, at least, you know, like in this first song, they're going to at least get to know what my name is. And it just became, you know, just, you know, with time, it just became a thing. You know, people like really latched on to it. But symbolically, it's exactly what you're saying. You have to be so sure about yourself. And in calling this book, sing your name out loud. It's kind of like unapologetically saying, I love me and I think that I deserve the best. And why not me? Like, why does why does this guy get to be a billionaire and not me? Like, why? How like, why is he better than than I am? You know, it's this false narrative where people believe that somebody else can do it better or somebody else will take that stage or somebody else will sing their name and they're not willing to, like, put their name forward. Exactly. My whole manifestation journey changed the moment I started to love myself. Like I was a woman that would look in the mirror and just not anything nice was was being thought towards me. And I intentionally turned it around with like mirror work and a lot of a lot of internal narrative and affirmations. But now and I say this to my daughters all the time, I ask them, I say, when you look in the mirror, what do you think? Do you ever look in the mirror and think, wow, you're beautiful or like, oh, wow, you're amazing. Oh, wow, you're powerful. And my daughters have both told me that, yes, they look in the mirror and they think those things. And I'm like, I didn't think that till I was 37. And so self-love is huge. And that is what I hear when I hear you singing. Your name is worthiness, value, self-love and the recognition that you are someone that can make an impact. I think many people won't even try because they don't think they can. And so I think it's a beautiful message. Yeah. And and sometimes it's the people around us that kind of make us afraid as well. I think you're a product of of those people that are around you. Right. And I think one thing that needs to be a non-negotiable for everybody is if the people around you, if something great in your life happens and the people around you aren't jumping for joy and as happy as you are, you got to let them slide like right away. Like that's that's the one non-negotiable that I feel like everybody should have. Like if your circle is not trying to uplift you and put you in the best position possible and wanting the great things for you, you got those people need to go. Yeah. You got to protect your peace, but you also got to protect your confidence. You got to protect the the the manifestations. You got to protect everything that is leading you on that train to success. You got to protect it with everything that you got. So everybody around you needs to be on that same wavelength. And you're surrounded by family. I think I've met several family members since I've been here today. And I have my family all in my business. My parents are in my business. My sister's my assistant. So family is so important. And then if you build yourself an extended family as well. And when you treat everybody around you like their family and with nothing but love, you get that energy back. So that's for sure. It's beautiful. I would love to know. So one of the manifestation techniques that I use is to visualize, to use my imagination. And I truly do believe that imagination is the portal between the 3D physical world and the 4D, the 4D realm. And I do believe that using our manifestation actually connects us to God and God delivers us through the imagination. So I imagine things. I feel those things and then I bring them in. I guide and direct source energy by that. So I can feel that you feel that by your reaction. For sure. Yeah, I got chills when you say that, because I am the same way. Like I visualize myself on stage before I go out on stage. I visualize what I want to look like, what I like, what response I want to have on a specific moment. I visualize lately what I'm visualizing is what I want my body to look like, you know, and even when I'm in the gym, like I like as I'm doing a specific workout, I'm imagining the back that I want. Like if I'm doing pull ups, I'm imagining the back that I that I want to have in in that moment. So like it goes it goes deep. I'm imagining everything. And your imagination is the one thing that I feel like is a strip from you. As soon as you become an adult, you're not allowed to imagine anymore. Right. Oh, but the imagination is is truly the biggest part of it all. Yeah, I actually call my imagination my number one business tool. Like any business success that I've had, I've thought it first, imagined it, felt what it felt like to experience it and then let it go. And it always shows up for me, whether that's clients, marketing, bookings, TV gigs, book sales. My book went international bestseller within, I don't know, the first six hours of being launched. But I specifically wrote that down and visualize that. And so anything that I've experienced, I always say we don't live once. We live twice. Once in the imagination, once in the visible 3D world. So for somebody that doesn't visualize right now, what would you tell them would be the best way to get started and then to keep that practice going? I would start with with baby steps. You know, I think just like anything, practice makes perfect. So you have to start somewhere. And it's something that I'm constantly preaching to the people that I love, you know, and in turn, I want to, you know, preach this to you guys as well. All it takes is for you to start, you just got to take that first leap, you know, whatever that is for you, you know, because we we all have different dreams, we all have different aspirations. But start with like what I talked about, you know, being in the gym and imagining the the body part, you know, that you're working out and imagining what like what you want that to look like. And then slowly you'll start you'll start to imagine what you want your your your home to look like, what you want your room to look like. And then you'll slowly start to take the steps to make that come to fruition. You know, I know I know what I need to to do to my back. I know how much I need to to to work that back to port for that actually to happen. I know what I need to eat for that to happen. I know what I you know, but as I imagine it, every single day it becomes it becomes closer and closer and closer. And, you know, like like anything else, practice makes perfect. And a little bit of the theory behind that. The subconscious mind doesn't know the difference between what's actually real and occurring right now in this moment versus an imagined state. So when you are imagining yourself on stage in front of all of these people and it's never happened, the mind is actually believing in it, which means it's then reprogramming itself to believe that that's truth. And then we will naturally express ourselves based on that truth. So you'll start showing up that way and speaking like you're on this big stage doing all these things. So it is part of bringing that reality. And so for those skeptics that are like, oh, and what's visualization going to do? It's reprogramming you. The other piece is it changes your vibration. So when I sit here and I'm kind of in a little bit of a funk and I'm not so happy, I'm vibrating on a lower frequency. And so I'm going to call to me things on the lower frequency. But when I visualize myself being happy, joyful, successful, grateful, I my vibration that I'm sitting in in this moment will raise up. And then what I bring to me will literally change. The people will come to you and be kinder and nicer and all of that. So do you pay attention to your vibration? And do you understand how your vibration you're in every day impacts your physical 3D? 100% so much so that if I'm in a funk, I will fake a smile just to be in a better mood, like all the time, by the way. So before I go out on stage, right, like I don't get I don't I don't get to have a funk like you can't. There's 20,000 people out in the audience. I don't get to be in a bad mood. I don't get to like phone it, phone it, phone in the performance and be like, oh, yeah, I wasn't feeling it today. You can't call in sick. No. So I've gotten used to making myself feel better. Yeah. And I don't know where that came from, but it's something that I've that I've always kind of known been known to do. So it was not something that somebody told me or somebody said, like, you should try this. It's just something that I've always kind of over time. You've learned. Yeah, that I've learned. And like you have the power of of how you feel. And if you have good good energy, that energy feeds to the people around you. Yeah. One of the things that I tend to do is I will use things like music, which is so beautiful because you're putting music that makes people feel good. Music is one of my most important parts of my manifestations. Even in my teachings, I will play music that raises my students vibration so that it opens up their mind. But I will use music that makes me feel like a boss. I'll use music that makes me feel calm and relaxed, like whatever kind of vibe I want to be in. But is there any other tool or anything else that you use other than music? This is something that I was talking about earlier. This is not something that I use. But I know this brilliant songwriter who was actually with me for the last three days. And I've noticed like with him specifically, every single time before we start writing anything, he just starts telling jokes and ---- like and he just makes the room. He lifts the room. Yeah, he's like, yeah. Everybody's just laughing and everybody's in a good mood. And then everybody is just like, like has like the greatest vibration. Right. Because everybody's smiling. Everybody has tears in their eyes from crying, laughing. And it happens every single time I work with him. And he's one of the biggest songwriters in the industry. And I thought that was so interesting that he utilizes humor to kind of just like equalize the room. You know, no, but there's no egos. You know, nobody's intimidated by anybody. It was just like the great equalizer is his humor. Yeah, he's putting them all in the same vibrational state. That's beautiful. So as you're growing and ascending and achieving more in your life, often people will have this fear of criticism, this fear of what other people will think of them and fear of, you know, especially with with the age of social media, fear of what people will say in the comments or in the DMs. So I'm sure you get a lot of really positive feedback, but I'm sure you also get the duality and you get the other side. So how do you deal with when someone is critical or you read some comment that's not so nice or if you even read them at all? But so I talk about it and sing your name out loud. I talk about negative comments and I talk about how. I've utilized negative comments to actually make myself a better version of myself, because sometimes something that somebody says can sting, you know, it can hurt. But if you just take a step back and look at the things that somebody says, maybe you can find something that will either like, you know, give you motivation to do more. Or maybe there's some truth in what they said, and maybe like it can help you pivot and like do something else. Yeah. Or sometimes it's just plain old hate and it's not really useful for anything. But I think you should be able to take all of those those points and discern like, can I use this? Can I use this? Can I use that? But I would I wouldn't put so much emphasis on the things that other people say. Yeah. Because honestly, most people that are sending negative comments, I mean, think about what kind of person that is and what kind of, you know, hate they must have for themselves to be sending out a message like that. But I will say that for me, I've actually learned to discern the comments and I learned a lot, you know, sometimes from from negative comments. Yeah. It's almost like you're using it as feedback. For sure. To be able to kind of reframe and then grow and become a better version of yourself. Yeah. Depending on what what what the comment is, you know. Yeah. I love that so much. My book is called The Best of Yourself. And the reason that I called it that was because I find over the course of my life, I was always trying to become a version of myself that the world would want me to be or so I thought. So all the time I was like, OK, well, I'm going to try to like lose weight so that I could be skinny so that I could be successful. I'm going to, you know, try to grow my hair out so that it looks better so that I can do this or I'm going to get another degree so that I'd have another letter next to my name so I would be successful. But I never actually asked, like, what do I want and like, who am I? And what does it mean for me to be my best? And I think stepping into my authenticity, which is the most magnetic energy in the universe, is what has led my life to quantum leap in the way that it has. And so I can feel an authentic energy coming from you. And when I was reading your book and so in a world that you're in now where there's so many eyes on you and there's so much success, how do you remain authentic to who Jason is? Life is really short. And I don't want to live my life for nobody else except myself and the people that are closest to me. And you got to be able to put yourself first, always. I ask people this question all the time when I'm when I'm trying to get a point across. And I ask them, hey, what's your what's your mother's name? They tell me their mother's name. And then I say, what's your grandmother's name? Then they tell me their grandmother's name. And then I say, what's your great grandmother's name? A lot of people cannot mention what their great grandmother's name is. And then I say, what's your great great grandmother's name? And there's nobody. Nobody knows what their great great grandmother's name is. And then I say to them, so if you were just a couple of generations and you're forgotten, why are you worried about what they're saying in the comments? Like, why are you worried about what some something negative somebody says about you? Like you need to live for right now. You need to live for yourself, because at the end of the day, this is this is your life. This is what you have. And when you're gone, you know, it's it's it's you're gone, you know. So for me, I always try to decipher what is good for me and what makes me feel good, what is going to enhance my life when I'm thinking about business, when I'm thinking about time in my family, when I'm thinking about rehearsing, when I'm thinking about all of these things, I'm trying to figure out and balance what is right for the most happy life. Yeah. You know, it's not just about success. It's about the most joyful life that I can live while I'm here. Yeah. One of my favorite quotes is by an author called Thomas Troward. And he has a I think it's a he calls it like an essay called yourself. And he says that there is a livingness in being yourself. So you actually come alive when you are being yourself. And I find the moments of my life that I am the happiest, the proudest, the most grateful is when I'm just being me. And that is the easiest to describe yourself. That's for sure. So for the young kid that's working at Walmart right now, that has a dream of becoming a musician, being an artist, being an actor, an actress, something along those lines. And they feel like their dreams are a little wild and crazy, but they have them. What kind of advice would you give them? I would tell them that they got to take the reins. Everybody is starting from a different, different place. Right. And a lot of times we're looking at the people around us and we're like, OK, that person is doing that. And they're more successful than me. And that person is doing that. And they're a little more successful than me. Or this person is not doing enough. But I would say. Focus in on yourself. Then find that person that you feel like is the ideal. Kind of ending end goal. Figure out the things that they did. Figure out the paths that they took. And start to adopt those things within your life. You know, I think that's a perfect way to start, because we're always trying to figure out like where to begin. Like how like how do I how do I start? It's it's really tough when you when you're by yourself and you're trying to find a path and you have nowhere to start. But if you have a starting point, you know, like, for instance, Curry. So, OK, Curry shooting 300, 500 shots a day. OK, cool. Who am I to think that I can? I'm only going to shoot 200 shots a day and I'm going to make it how? So I know that Curry is shooting 500. I probably need to be shooting 515. You know what I'm saying? So I always say find whoever that picture is in your mind of that end goal and chase, chase, chase like nobody's business. Yeah, that's really beautiful. And I think when you are inspired by someone, it's the beautiful. It's the most beautiful starting energy. And so I used to think inspired was just kind of like this feeling, OK, I'm inspired by you. Thanks for that. But I actually saw somewhere that inspired actually means to be in spirit, which means to be in your God essence, which means to be connected to source. So for me, like if anybody inspires me, I'm like, oh, it's meant to be like I'm meant to be inspired by this. I'm meant to take action. So that's beautiful. We are getting to the end of the interview. But I wanted to ask you, you know, you have done so much in your life. You've made such an impact. What's next for Jason Derulo? What are you manifesting next? I am so in a in a creative zone right now with music more so than I have been in a very long time. And I feel like I've just been making the best music of my life at my present. And I'm really excited to share this new music. So that's next on the horizon. After this album cycle, which is called The Last Dance, I'm going to make a pivot and go into a totally different direction and start doing start starting to do more films and take that on. Wow. So this is going to be your last album. This is my last album is called The Last Dance. Well, you heard that here. Wow. That's amazing. And to be in your most inspired state, making the best music you've ever made and ended on that note is so beautiful. Thank you. Thank you so much. To the next thing. Absolutely. Thank you, Jason, so much for coming here and sharing your journey. It's my it is inspiring. I am like lit on fire here. I'm like, OK, I'm going to go manifest my billion. That's what I leave here. I think you're manifesting a billion to 100 percent. That's right. We're manifesting the bees. That's what I call it. Man, come on. You know, there is no limit. And that's how I end this podcast, actually. So beautiful. Thank you so much for being here. I appreciate this. And you are going to inspire a lot of people that are going to listen. And maybe we'll have some pop stars start popping from this episode. I hope so. Absolutely. Absolutely. With absolute gratitude. Thank you so much. And please, everyone, remember such a beautiful example of how the limit does not exist.