Psychic Sisters Reveal What They See That We Don’t

They're trying to contact a loved one. If they go to a medium or something and they don't contact that person, they might've already reincarnated already. It's like, I have this relationship with my mom as my mom, but when I cross over, is she still going to be my mom? Or it's just like, I know you. No, she'll still be your mom. Exactly. Yeah. The only time the roles change is when you reincarnate. Out of what we discussed and what you've seen, what does that tell you about the death and the transition that it is and our potential fears towards it as a human? People should not fear death. You continue living. That's all you need. You just come out of your shell and just keep going. Can you tell me if the New York Jets are ever going to win a Superbowl? Three psychic sisters. I had three psychic sisters on the show today. Do you believe in psychic abilities? Do you believe in connecting to the other side? Because this episode is exploring that. I spoke to all three of them at once in this really fun episode. I asked that you have fun, have an open mind, feel free to look into whatever you want, believe whatever you want. And when I asked them specifically, how do we know this is real? They said, check the receipts because they put their videos online. You can go back years and you can fact check them yourself. In the meantime, join the ride. I asked them about the afterlife, about experiences and connecting to the other side, what their mission is and trying to intuitively heal people. And is it helping people? And what do they believe about the afterlife and death? Is it real? How does psychic abilities apply to our life today? All these questions that I tried to jump into in this podcast that I truly hope you enjoy again, have fun with it. Hope you enjoyed this episode. Thank you for everyone. That's been here. That's subscribed. That's been following the show. That's been writing reviews. And to everyone that's considered joining the Patrion again, you could try it for seven days free. And if you don't like it, just cancel really doesn't matter. Thank you again. I'll stop talking. Let's get some good talks. Yeah, of course. And this is a, for everyone listening right now, I guess we'll start for everyone listening right now. Hopefully you are listening. This is, first of all, this is the first podcast I thought with four people. So I'm going to have my head on a swivel for anyone watching on YouTube. And, uh, who wants to take the reins and introducing y'all? Cause you go by the Trinity oracles, correct? And y'all are sisters. Yes. Okay. That's a good start. So who wants to answer what exactly that means when you call yourselves the Trinity oracles? You want to take it over? So we're Trinity oracles. We're three real psychic sisters. And we all, we cover all the players. We have the ability to like hear, see, um, feel spirit, get in, get accurate answers for people. And that's what we do. We help a lot of people. And how did y'all discover this? So who's, what's the, what's the age difference? Who's who's leading the charge? Who's at the bottom of the totem pole? I'm leading the charge. Okay. So I'm 30, what? 37, 38, 37 years. Okay. So it's, so it's tech. I want to ask you because you're the oldest and so you were the, were you the first one to discover or your, what would you call this talents? Gifts feeling? I would say gifts. Yeah, it's called gifts. So you're, so you all three of you have a similar ability to essentially connect with spirit, AKA the other side. And when you say psychic is it's predictions as well. Exactly. Okay. And so is there any, is any one of those more powerful than the others? Like you have an ability to connect to the other side more or, or predict the future because I feel like, is it predicting the future? Cause I feel like sometimes I've heard when it comes to psychics, it's not exactly always, it's kind of like a vague prediction in that you kind of have an idea what's going to happen, but cause I feel like there's a balancing act of knowing exactly what's going to happen, but is there also things can change at the same time? It's not like you're predicting the future and you're always going to be right. Like, how does that work? Yeah, things can change, but there's also things that are just, they're just predestined. So for example, with Donald Trump and the January 6th insurrection, we were like, oh, he's not, he's going, he's not going down without a fight. He's going to do an insurrection. Then boom, three years later. Like, it's just like, this is just going to happen. That's not going to change. How does that, how does that come about? Like, are you focusing on these certain events in order to understand how things just pop into your head? Like, what does it actually feel like? Well, sometimes you just look at a picture and you're like, okay, this is, this is what's going to happen with this. Or it's just a feeling. I'll get random stuff come to me. Like I could be like cooking and it's like, oh, this is what's going to happen. Just randomly. Yeah. Randomly. Yeah. But it's, we do it intentional of like our videos and for our clients, we'll do it intentional. Like they'll give me their name or they'll be like, oh, what do you think about this person? I'll be like, oh, they're like this, this, they'll just look at the cards. Right. I like to scribble and I'll just start receiving information through scribbling because I'm not thinking. And when I'm not thinking, that's how I receive the information. Interesting. So kind of when you have your guard let down. Yeah. Exactly. No resistance. Yeah. They call it, they call it no resistance. Exactly. Yeah. I tell people you're doing a reading for someone and you're thinking you're not doing it right. Exactly. You're not supposed to be thinking you're supposed to be receiving it from, I know you're, you're y'all like, what? Because a lot of the times I don't remember, like we can't remember certain things. They're like, oh, remember when you said this? And we're like, we don't. So you're channeling or you're seeing? All of them. There's exactly. We have them all. So even I taste things like when I'm with a client and say, I'm doing medium ship, which is different than psychic, but I'll be like channeling their father. And I'm like, they cigarette smoking. They're like, oh, he was a chain smoker. Oh my God. Interesting. Yeah. So I'll get that taste to make the connection. So the client knows I'm actually connected with their father. So is this a, is this a blessing and a curse? It's a complete blessing to me. Cause we're able to turn it off like a light switch. It's basically turn it on, turn it off, you know? So we're not driving down the street and like, Oh, I'm getting, that's something you had to develop like that. Kind of the craft of it, or is it just come naturally? And that's it? Everyone in our family is psychic, but can you develop it? Yes, you can. Cause everybody's born with intuition. Just call it something different. And that's why it's interesting. I've had, you know, mediums that I've spoke to and they always, they, the people I was with, like, you know, I believe everyone can tap into this. I can think maybe some people are born with a certain ability that makes it easier X, Y, Z, but it always seems to come back with that intuition, especially the lack of releasing the resistance that resonates with me just in general, outside of any of these gifts. It's just like, I feel like more comes to us through intuition when there is no resistance and you kind of let it happen. So is that part of the process as well? Yeah, exactly. And a lot of people, they think they're going to be seeing visions like that. So Raven, like that's not for everybody. That's not, might not be your strongest ability. Like I'm a big feeler. Exactly. So I, I could feel, you know, walk into a room and feel what's going on. Walk past somebody. It's like, okay, I feel like this is this, this, this situation. Got it. So you, you're, you're more feeling based. Is that similar to you three, you two, or is it kind of, we all have everything, but we are different. Like I have all five Claire. So I see, I hear, I feel, I just know things, I taste things. So I'll get a collection of everything. And sometimes it depends on, yeah, for me too. Sometimes I'll see stuff. Sometimes I'll, um, I feel like coming through my body. It's like a feeling. So what do you, I mean, I'm getting into it right now. What do you all say to people that, cause I've had these conversations and obviously in a different format of, uh, mediums and even near death experiences and such a divisive conversation and what people believe in, whatever, believe whatever you want to believe, as I've always said. But what is your response when people think you're, you guys are pulling someone, pulling a fast one by people and they just don't believe it. It's like, what is your feeling towards that? When people say that okay. Yeah. I mean, we do our YouTube readings to prove our accuracy. And then on our website, we have a page, like hundreds of predictions of world and celebrity predictions where boom, you can just go on our page and see all the correction, correct predictions we've made. So it's like, how are we going to be fake? How can we predict X amount of years later that but day-to-day life? Like, I really don't care. I'm just like, yeah, it's true. Oh, well, I understand. It's just like how you were saying, like no resistance, you receive stuff. It's no different than like someone who's an inventor of science. They're just trying to figure something out for years and they're just like sitting there one day and they're like, Oh shoot. That's all I need. It just comes when they're not, they're not trying to receive anything. Exactly. I think that's such an outside of, again, your gifts, that idea of release, like releasing the resistance is such a lesson in itself, regardless of if you're going to tap into the other side, it's like that releasing the resistance, that's when things come to us. Yes. I love that comparison about the idea. It just kind of like comes to you. So that's a, that's a similar feeling or y'all just happened. It happens all the time. Random like driving. You're like, Oh, turn this way. Exactly. So, so in regards to the, like the other side, I want to get into, we'll check those receipts in a little bit. Cause I'd love to hear some stories, but in regards to like the other side and connecting to, uh, whatever, I guess, deceased people and all that. What have y'all learned about the afterlife? Is there, have you been revealed like a part of it? Cause obviously I've heard stories about some mediums talking about, you know, I've seen, I feel like I got a glimpse of it. They seen it, but I'm sure there's who, I don't know how infinite it is. So maybe you haven't seen everything, but what do y'all know about the other side and the afterlife? Is there one? Yes, there is for sure. Um, I've seen it, you know, one day I was about to go to sleep and they're like, you want to go to heaven? And I was like, I was going to die. I literally, I thought it was like, you want to go to heaven? Okay. You're about to die. I mean, you guys saw voices saying that to you? Yeah. It was Archangel Michael. So he was like, you know, you want to see heaven. And I was like, Oh, I'm scared. And he was like, you're not dying, Jasmine. We're just going to show you, you know? So he took me up there and it literally looks just like earth without all the buildings, like just the pollution without, yeah. And it's, it's amazing up there and they're doing the same things. They'll be fishing. They're hiking, like cooking, dancing. So there's physical bodies on that side. It's not, it's like they're there, like their essence, I guess you want to say. Imagine like a colorful orb. That's how they come across, but some of them are bigger. Some of them are like smaller, but sometimes when you're connected with them, they will present themselves as like their physical body. Now, what did you, what all through your backgrounds in regards to religions, a whole nother conversation, but what is the background there? I'm just curious. Christian. Yeah. So because you mentioned Archangel Michael, obviously it was a specific belief more or less, or a store or whatever you want to call it. So do you see, is that the way it is? Or do you see it the way you believe it? Cause I feel like I've heard also in near death experiences, some people have said to me, uh, cause I go back again. I've always said either everyone's right. Or everyone's wrong. Cause I feel like if we're going to be all going to the same place, are you seeing that based on your beliefs or is like someone, for instance, who's Muslim or believe or Jewish or whatever their beliefs are, is that what they're going to see? Like, are they, is Archangel Michael the same for everyone? That's interesting. You brought that up. My, um, friend is, is Jehovah witness and he died surfing and they, Jehovah witnesses do not believe in heaven. And I was like, really? I didn't know that. So he said when he died surfing, he went to a black, completely pitch black place, but he said he felt like he had been asleep for thousands of years. He said he had no resistance. He was at complete peace. And I wonder, did his mind take him there? Cause he didn't believe in heaven growing up Jehovah witness. I often wonder that too. So, so there really is no finite answer there cause you can't, you don't know that for sure if people are going to see what they believe or is it heaven for everyone or is heaven a loose term? Like it doesn't have to be biblical. It's just like a really nice place. It's an interpretation because everybody has different like gods. You know, some people believe animals are gods, so it's up to what they're taught. Yeah. Well, from what I was told with Archangel Michael, when someone is sick and their body went through a lot or they had a lot of trauma, they go to the black space. That's where they have peace. They need to, their soul needs to recuperate. So that is their heaven because they need to sleep. They need to rest. I've also heard that I was like, I forget what book it was. I want to say it was many lives. Many masters are also maybe, um, um, Dolores County, Dolores County. I think her book mentioned something calling it the healing room. Exactly. So it's just, it's always seems like it's different. It's just different human words that we're using to maybe describe the same thing. And that's where the beliefs start getting mixed up where people get upset at each other for calling it heaven for calling it this, that, the other, but I kind of feel like we're saying things in a different way, but there's gotta be different experiences for everyone. If you cross over from what you're understanding, are they going to the same place, but just seeing it differently? If I'm being redundant there. I think they go to the same place, but they're going to different levels, but they got to get healed first and then they get to go to heaven. That's what I think. Exactly. Cause I tapped into this one girl, her dad, and she was like, Oh, you know, where's my dad at? Cause she's at her mom, visit her in dreams all the time. Her mom's always happy. I go, your mom, I'm sorry, your dad's in a very dark space. And it looked like he was in a rehab facility because her, her father had mental illness, um, childhood trauma. And she said he was completely delusional. And it's like, his angels are trying to wake him up. You say dark place, not necessarily a negative place, just literally dark. Not hell, but they showed him being like in a rehab facility on the other side to wake him up so that he could go to heaven and be happy. So what's everyone doing over there? Chilling. Like literally living the best life. Like they've shown me images of them. Like watch it. They're like how we watch reality TV. They're like, you guys are a reality TV. So they'll be like watching us doing things. Like it's just different things that some of them are choosing to be like a guardian angel. So they're down here on earth doing the work. So it's just, it's just so many, so many different things. Have y'all tapped into past lives or reincarnation? So that's a thing. Oh yes. So what's the point of, I mean, what is the point of coming back and going up to like, what's the ultimate mission? Say if we reincarnate to become enlightened, there's gotta be at some point when our job's done here on earth. Exactly. So after that, what are we doing? I know you just said, okay, different jobs like guardian angels, but is there anything above that which strictly stays in the afterlife? Like what duties are there besides fishing? Like you said. There are ascended masters, so they're up there with the ascended masters, gaining more learning. There's also work for them to help guide souls. So they're not on earth, but when souls get trapped in transition, going to the other side, there are souls that actually choose to stay and they work with the angel of death. So they're going around helping souls that get trapped. How do you get trapped? And what does that mean? Well, some of them don't want to leave earth. Some of them don't even like, they're shocked. They're like, I died. I died. Oh my God. And it's funny. People on earth, their loved ones know that. Like when you tell them like, Hey, your dad's actually trapped here. He's earthbound. They go, I felt that. Like he wasn't at peace. I knew it. So how do they get at peace if they're trapped? Like when they say unfinished business, are they still doing things in between that affect us? No, some of them don't want to go to heaven and some of them can't believe they, they don't want to accept the fact that they're dead. Yeah. And some of them fear judgment. Some of them based on their religious belief system. They're like, Oh my God, you know, I'm scared. I'm going to go to hell. And the angels are like, you're not going to go to hell. Come, come, come, come. You know, like. And they're trying to persuade them to get on the other side. Persuade them to. So what are they, what are they doing in that transition? But there's an orb floating around. What are they doing? Literally like stuck, like in a loop. Yeah. Is that a scary place to be? No. Like you're, you're, they're good. They're good. I don't think they're good. I've had some that are sad. Yeah. Sad and mad. So the person on base, they're in, they're good, but they're trapped mentally. It's not a bad place. Yeah. So they're still conscious. Like, what is that? Yes. They're conscious. Yes. Is it? I'm sure like a different type of conscious, not like I'm conscious. Exactly. No, no. They're like, they're just like, yeah, they're like, I don't want to go to the other side. Some of them just don't want to die. I got some people like this one guy, he was like 15 or something. And he was like, I just can't leave. I died. I don't want to be here. I don't want to go to the other side. So he just like stayed with his mom. His mom's like, I feel him all the time. So she had to do a ceremony to release him. They'd be like, it's okay. If you die, you got to go. And then he left. But then he left me and he went to the other side. Yeah. He left his mother and went to the other side. She felt the release. And then he, yeah. What's the ceremony? She did. I think her angels told her to do some type of like Haitian ceremony or something. And sometimes I'll even channel, like get a specific candle with their picture, write him a letter and ask her angels to actually come get them. Why do you think people, why do you think people accept the one word that I've heard over and over again is demon. And every time someone brings up the demon, when there's connecting to the other side, I'm like, I always say, I'm like, that's like the nicest demon I've ever seen. If that's a demon, and it's always just like, they don't believe in connecting to the other side. Kind of. Sometimes they believe in demons. Then also some people are just saying maybe they do believe in that, but we're not supposed to connect to the other side. We're not supposed to have this contact. Why would, what, why do people, why would you believe people to see it as a negative? And what is the positive of having this ability to connect the other side? But when you're talking about the demon, what do you mean in regards to, for instance, I've had stories of people have near death experience. And this one, uh, girl, Cassandra was saying she felt like she connected to her brother who died. And then some people are like, Oh, that's a demon. Don't that, that shouldn't be happening. What is that fear? That, why would that be a, is that just what they've been taught? Like, is that what the Bible said? Bible talking about demons like that? It could be a past, it could be a past life that maybe they connect to a demon or something like that, but I just feel the unknown, what is going to happen to you because you connected to that. Yeah. I don't know why people get so offended to the idea of connecting to the other side. And someone made an example. I forgot what podcast I was listening to. He was like, garage openers are magic. You just press a button and you can't, there's nothing in between. The door just opens and it's like, it is true. Like these little things that we're so used to, we're talking in a mic, it's recording into some device and people are going to hear us talking from all across the world. It's like that itself is an energetic magic that transmits, but it's impossible that we can connect to another form of energy. That's my belief. And again, whatever puts you to sleep, puts you to sleep at night, makes you happy, do your thing. But I just have a hard time just dismissing that makes the most sense. You think of radio waves, that's kind of what it is. I think it's a fear. And then also them not just thinking logically, like DNA does not die. They can find a body a million years old and dig up his DNA and the vibration of that DNA is still moving. So that means that life is infinite. So that's what I, I don't know. I don't know either, but y'all know something that I know. So what was like, do any of y'all have a very eye-opening experience of experiencing these gifts for the first time? Like, was it, were you calm? Was you freaking out? Did you think y'all were this side or the other? I was scared. I was in high school, um, and I came home and normally people are at, we're at home, so nobody's home that day. So I was like, Oh yeah, let's get the house to myself. So I ran upstairs in my room, like sat on the floor and I hear like, this is deep male breathing, breathing heavy in my ear. So I was like, man, I ran upstairs. Maybe it's me. But so I put my hand over my mouth and my nose and I stopped breathing, but I still kept hearing it over and over again. I was like, what the heck is that? So I left the house cause I was scared. I was like, what is going on? So that was my first inkling of hearing. What was that? Like, did you ever get any answer on what that was? You just, that was the first touch of like, that was something. That was something. And that was somebody there in my room. And since your family has a history of that, did you, were you able to connect it to like, Oh, maybe I have what my family has or you had no idea what that was? I had no idea. No, I was just like, who's in my room. This is not normal. I'm by myself. We never talked about it. Yeah. So what, what is your mission in regards to predicting, you know, certain things that do relate to celebrities and is that just more like entertainment for the crowd? Like, what is your, like, what is your mission with doing stuff like that? Like, what is your, like, what is the positive for predicting certain more, uh, cultural stuff to prove our accuracy? I didn't mean to cut you off. No, no, please. Yeah. To prove our accuracy, you know, like the easiest, why we do it. I mean, we don't know celebrities. We don't care about celebrities. We don't watch TV. I watch movies. I don't want to see if I don't know what's going on. We'll just get someone just like email. I was like, well, what's going to happen with Blake? Live. We'll do a reading of Blake Lively. We don't care about her. And the stuff will come out. I feel like I'm so accurate. That's the only reason why they book a reading with us. Cause we were accurate. Exactly. Well, that's, I mean, once again, if you're putting yourself out there, that's where a lot of people challenge people that connect to their side, because there are, you know, there are charlatans out there and I've experienced one or two that might, I wasn't insulted. I'm partially, I was not insulted by it. Like I hope there's, it didn't resonate with me and it seemed, it just seemed off, so I do for people that are looking for certain experiences like this, just, you know, take it with a grain of salt. But when you have people like you that are open to put it on video, put it in front of the world and call it and call yourselves out, it does offer that comfort, like, okay, they've been right on this, this or that. So I could feel more comfortable with them. Not trying to pull one by me. So with those receipts, is there any specific one story, whether it's, um, through mediumship or, or your psychic abilities or anyone that stands out the most that was like, what's up now? Erica predicted the overturning of Roe versus Wade two years prior and people didn't believe us. They were like, that's not going to happen. They'd never do that. The government would never do that. And I was like, well, yeah. The January 6th incident actually predicted that. Aaron Carter passing away. Yeah. We did a reading on him and, um, to also answer your question about like why we do celebrity readings. Another reason is like people are, they feel emotional connection to that celebrity. So like, what's going to happen. So when we did the reading, I was like, he's not going to be here. And then he passed away. And I was, is that another one? Y'all do like a video of it. And then it happened straight up. That's just like, you can watch that video. And then all of a sudden fast forward to happen. Yeah, exactly. Does that freak y'all out? People tell, no, no, no. Cause I looked at him and I was like, yeah, he's not gonna, he's not going to be here very long. We said Jamie Foxx too. We said Jamie Foxx would have a near death experience or either die. And then he came out and said he did die and come back to life. I think I heard about that. I've been trying to get Jamie on the shows with Jamie. If someone was saying, are you Jamie Foxx, please give me the plug right there. I would love that. With everything we're saying, he seems so, he's so talent. I don't know the guy I'm not saying personally, but he's so frigging talented. It's crazy. So funny. So with that stuff that happens when you do see into what may happen, there's what if someone says, okay, okay. You, uh, you tell someone, I don't know if you try to keep it positive. Maybe there's some things you don't want to tell people, but if say hypothetically someone you see might die in two years, is there like an interference factor of, okay. If that person, you told someone that, uh, and they're going to do their best to prevent that, like, is that in stone or do we still have control over those things? For some people? Yes. Some things are set in stone. They're going to pass away in X amount of months. Like, for example, I did a reading on Wendy Williams and I think what three months prior, I said, you know, Wendy Williams, mom is about to pass. And then her spirit guides, like there's nothing she can do. It's just her time to go. Sometimes with clients, they'll say, Hey, look, don't drink and drive. I'll never forget. I had a client. They told him do not drink and drive. Or you're going to pass in 10 years, right after you have your first kid. And he's like, you know what, every time I get in my car, I always have this feeling I shouldn't drink and drive. He's like, even if it's like, I'm under the limit and I drink a little bit, he's like, I have this deathly fear. And I'm like, you're picking up on it ahead of time. And now I'm telling you, this is confirmation. So he can live out till 90. My 90 years, they told him you'll live X amount of years. If you don't drink and drive. What about things like, can you tell me if the New York jets are ever going to win a super bowl? It wasn't happened. Right, right. Because that one, I don't know. I, I would, that'd be great to know because I've been wasting my time for a very long time. So what is, so what, out of all this stuff, like, what do you get the most pleasure out of? Like, do you, well, actually let me skip that question for a second. What does this tell us about the process of death? Obviously a lot of people have the fear of dying and, and all this, but what is this, what have you, out of what we discussed and what you've seen, is there, what does that tell you about the death and the transition that it is and our potential fears towards it as a human? People should not fear death. You continue living. That's all you do. You just come out of your shell and just keep going. And so, because I was thinking about this yesterday, leading up to it, I was thinking about, you know, I lose my mom, my sisters, or when I lose my dad. It was, it's an interesting thought. You think about past lives. Okay. My dad was just in this body for how I knew him. But then he lived all these other lives. But this, if someone's in my family now, like, is that a, most, most of the time, at least souls we've had experiences in our past lives. So it's not so much like when I go to, which like, who am I seeing when I go there? I see my dad, but if we had past lives together, which one am I seeing? Is this a soul connection? So it doesn't really matter which way I remember him on earth. Does that make sense? Yeah, I think that makes sense. Yeah. So it doesn't matter. Cause like the soul, a soul is just the soul. This is just a meat bag. So like when I see it, I might recognize my father from having potential past lives with him in many ways. So we're going to, so we're going to be reunited with our, that's my worry about it. I was not worried. It's like, I have this relationship with my mom as my mom, but when I cross over, is she still going to be my mom? Or it's just like, I know you. No, she'll still be your mom. Yeah, exactly. Yeah. The only time the roles change is when you reincarnate. Like she might be your sister. Exactly. Right. So like, say, say she was my sister in the, in the last life before this one. And I die and we go up there and I see my mom. Am I seeing her as my mom or my sister? Oh, I get what you're saying. Yeah. No, whatever relationship you had with them on earth, you'll have with them when you go to the other side. Exactly. Mother or sister though. That's what I'm saying. Well, if, if, okay. So you're saying if she was your sister in the past life and then, but she's still in heaven, you come back down, you go back up, you're going to remember that. So all hidden knowledge is revealed. So you can remember, oh yeah, you were my sister and my mom and my mom in that past life. It's like, it's like an open discussion. It's like, for example, we're all in a play. She played Peter Pan. I played Tinkerbell. She plays such and such. And I'm like, oh yeah. Hey, Tinkerbell, blah, blah, blah. And then she might play Captain Hook in the next play. You did good as Captain Hook. It doesn't take away from, you know, you're going to remember all of that. I remember when you messed up in 1592, you did that ---- again. And a lot of people reincarnate with the same habit. Yes. I think that is the most wildest answer. This girl, like she asked about her past life. So I'm like, yeah, you used to love to gamble. I go, you're a mischievous. You love to, what they call it, panhandling. And she kept like, like gambling, forgetting. And she's like, you know what? I'm addicted to gambling in this lifetime. I cannot stop gambling. And I go, you brought that same stuff over from your past life. And is that coming over to get past that? The whole point is to get through that? Well, for her, she was trying to get rid of it. She asked me a reading, like, how can I stop gambling? Cause she goes, it was ruining her life. So she needed like some past life regression stuff. And then she needed to really go to like some, uh, what do you call it? Gambler's anonymous. She needed to do stuff like that. So is there any, is there any, uh, when you go to the other side, like, are we good? Like regardless, regardless of the life you lived here is, are there some people that don't go to a good place, but it's not forever. I guess it's kind of like a healing room kind of thing. Some people learn. Cause they weren't good in the past life. They're like, man, I messed some people up. Let me go. When I die, make it right. And then come back and be a good person. Ultimately is like the aura of everything. Just is it good? Yes. That's what I believe. Good. Like people say hell, but it's not really hell. It's like, they could be in a rehab facility over there or something. They do have psych wards on the other side. Yeah. But people think they're like, I guess you'd call it like a psych ward. That's like our interpretation of it. That's, that's what they show me on the other side. It's like a psych ward, but it's like your angels, your spirit guides are all trying to help you like wake up. They're trying to fix you basically. So it is positive. A lot of things y'all are saying are, that's the cool parts, right? For anyone that is listening and blah, blah, blah, just, you know, look, just come with an open mind and look and explore a little bit outside of y'all too, because I see a lot of consistencies again, when Dolores can, and even the, uh, many lives, many masters that I already mentioned. And there's other people I've seen and listened to on podcasts. Like it's a lot of similarities that y'all call it calling it different things, but it's like the same thing. It is like the same thing. So it's, it's just, it is comforting. It's kind of wild. I just don't think it's wrong. You're seeing these things. Like you've, you feel like you've seen a glimpse of what's on the other side, or is it more feeling for you or it's just, you've seen it, you've been there, or is it just kind of like watching on a movie screen, like everything, you know, the feeling of what it's like to be there. All love harmony. Everybody's euphoric, like not in a sexual way, but euphoric happiness. Like when I, cause I didn't ask to get taken there. I was just going to sleep. I wasn't even thinking about it, you know, just like you want to go. And I just, boom. He was, I was just like, whoa. And when I do healing work for people and I take them up, like there's different realms too. So I take them up to the angelic healing realm. You can take them and they feel it. Yeah. I take their soul to the angelic healing realm and it's just happiness. It's joy. It's like, it's like you like letting go of everything. Yeah. It's just like, I cannot explain it. It's just so much joy. I feel like I, so I did DMT in 2016 and I didn't, I didn't break through as I said, but I was in one place where I, I think they call it like a dying molecule. Cause the process of going to DMT kind of, apparently what they say is it feels like you're dying. And I kind of understood that without knowing what it's like to die. But I went to this one little area, like I wasn't gone, gone, but I was in this place of complete euphoria where I was like, all my questions were answered, even though I didn't have questions, everything was okay. It wasn't even thinking about any, I was just like, I'm good. But I didn't see any physicality. It was just a white room. First of all, I was like, if there was any correlation from me and my experiences of understanding what the other side was, even though I don't see it as vivid as y'all, it was like, Oh, I feel like this is, this is, we're just, I'm just good. Like, I'm good, I wasn't even doing anything. I was just in a weird place. It was like, Oh no, I'm good. We're good. And I truly believe that. So regardless, I think if that's what it is, I, and we do kind of stay with the people that we're on a life now, I think it's, we're scared of like losing this experience with each other and not having that. But once you're over there, it's like, no, we're good. Yeah. We're the ones suffering over here. Exactly. We're the ones suffering over here. So with your experience of connecting to the other side, all three of you, do you connect, do you use this for your own benefit in a sense of connecting to people that you've lost where you just want to talk to someone? Is it that easy? Yeah. It's as easy as like, imagine like picking up the phone. Hey, you know, Hey grandma, I can just call my dad. Yeah. What are you doing up there? Exactly. Help me with this. Exactly. Hey, guardian angels. Hey, spirit guys. Just picking up the phone. It's like turning up a radio dial. They keep it low key. Like maybe they don't want to tell you everything. So you've got to figure out some stuff on yourself. You just, they just give you all the answers. Like what's going on. They're like, you'll see it in time. Yeah. Maybe you have a little leniency to like, they're not, it's a little leniency that you got to, you still got to figure some of this stuff out. Exactly. And they know what to tell you and what not to tell you exactly. So is that something I can, can I tap into stuff like that? Obviously maybe not as intense, but I can, if I'm, I said, for instance, I'm looking for, I'm trying to really figure something out deep spiritually, even for this podcast, for example, like what to do next is just meditating and opening up. Like, what does that mean? First, you got to get out your way. That's I am in my way. Exactly. Like you, what you're this, this world is so expansive. There's so many different ways that things can come to fruition and can happen, but sometimes how we think based on our past lives, based on our current life, based on what we see on TV, we're thinking this is how we get there. And your guardian angels are like, you're thinking the wrong way. It would be easier if you just do this, this, this, and this. So you have to learn to get out of your own way and be like, all right. Like I like to work with Archangel Michael. He's the angel of truth. He's blunt. He's the Capricorn. I don't know if he's a Capricorn or not, but that's how I said it. The Capricorn. He's a Capricorn. He is? Oh, okay. She's a Capricorn too. Oh yeah, no wonder. She's blunt too. No wonder, yeah, she's very blunt. Yeah. And it's just like, all right, Archangel Michael, tell me the truth. Give it to me straight. And he's like, this, this, this, this, and this. But you have to get out of your own head and be able to accept the truth. You know? So it's, it's working consistently to get out your own way. I tell myself when I do a reading, get out of the way. So I'm not in the way of the client. I try to tap. I try to have those conversations. Sometimes like I haven't had any experiences that are just like, if I try to like, I just want to have a conversation with my dad, whatever that means, it's more just me talking to myself. It feels like, but I, I try to go there. I don't, I don't know. I just don't, uh, I can't tell what is just my intuition and my now my making that up because I'm thinking too much. Like, did I really have that thought? I got to trust it more, but it's a weird thought. Cause I try to connect with whatever that higher self is or this or that. I'm not, I just, I think I'm, I need to just like, we'll let go a little bit. Whatever that means too. Yeah. Just tell your mind, let go, let go, let go. And when you get that thought, let go. If the thought comes back, that's spirit talking to you. Yeah. If you say let go and you get another thought, then trust that second thought, because you told your mind to get out of the way and spirits like, boom, we're in. We do have a meditation. What's our meditation called? We're removing two of them. Removing psychic blocks. And what's the other one? Meet your spirit guide, meet your spirit guide. So we have that. And it opens people up. People are like, Holy smokes like that. They work. Like I can actually tap it. And I think it's only like less than a 10 minute meditation. Yeah. It's in our course, but you have to buy the course, but it really does work. It opens you up. It's super simple. Yeah. Okay. Well, we'll tap into that. I'll put a link there for anyone wants to tap in again. Remember this also, like if they're trying to contact a loved one, if they go to a medium or something and they don't contact that person, they might've already reincarnated already. Oh, interesting. Yeah. And so you can't, so that's, that's when they reincarnate, you can't contact them anymore. Now you can contact them, like to see what they're doing on earth right now, but you can't contact them. Like there's souls. Some people do reincarnate in the same generator, like the same timeframe. Oh, some people loop. Like they don't want to go there. Like they come right back as a dog. They don't want to be over there. And that's cool. Okay. I was, I wasn't sure how, like, I guess it depends on who needs to chill and heal over there. Who's ready to come back. So it's just like, we make that choice, whatever that may mean. Yeah, exactly. Damn. Okay. What about, uh, the thought of like how big this universe is and people talk about there may be like multiverses or there may be other life forms. We're getting more signs of maybe aliens, UAPs, wherever you want. So when we're going to that place, is that still, is that one place just for people on earth in our realm? Or if, is there, in your opinion, is there other existence in this universe that may be human-like or non-human-like? Do y'all know that? Are there people here who are non-human-like? For instance, like there's a lot of information coming in about UAPs and like what used to be called UFOs. And we're getting a lot more information. I've seen them several times. Those things are real. Right. But I'm saying like, say those other human forms that are way more advanced than us and say, say if those people are either in the earth or somewhere else in the universe, when they die, is it all the same thing? Or is there like in heaven that you've seen, as you call it, are those all just earthly people that we know? Or is there any idea? They go to, I guess, their type of heaven, I guess. So there's different heavens? Yeah. It's like wherever, yeah. Is that what you believe or have seen or just a theory? No, that's what they show me. That's what they show you? Yeah. They're like different realms, I guess. So this is different, which is different. So we're different. Yeah. Okay. Which is weird. We're all one, but different. Interesting. So there's multiple heavens. I've never heard that before. So there is multiple heavens. Yeah. So is there any point those intertwiners or something beyond that? It's a great question. But what they've shown me when I've done reading, so I've met people who are, they're like weird, like hybrid aliens and they know it. I'm like, you're like got some alien DNA going on. They're like, I knew it. But they show them like going to like a different space when they pass away. Interesting. Yeah. Which is weird, but I'm like, okay. Yeah. But they're like connected, but they're different. Yeah, exactly. Yeah. And I bring that up because I just had a, I don't know if you know, I'm Billy Carson on the podcast a week ago. Um, Oh, it was so much fun by the way. I mean, I'm sure a lot of people listen now and go check out Billy Carson's episode, but he taps into some stuff. And again, I have these conversations. I let y'all talk and everyone else, I ask my questions, everyone else, you know, look into whatever you want to look into, but he talks a lot about ancient civilizations and Anunnaki, which are came from a different world. And they're half human, not human. So I just think if, if that exists, I don't know if you've ever heard of the Anunnaki, but what, like, what is that? They're not even us, but they're somewhere else. So there's, it's a whole nother ball game. It's like basketball and baseball. We're not even, but we're all within the same universe. So why, why, why does that exist? What is the, what is the point of them? Exactly. What is their, what is their goal? Well, I don't even know what exactly it means. Like what is, I don't, I don't even understand what I said. Anunnaki. I can't, we did a reading on our Patreon. I can't improve what they are. So I think they're the first beings, right? Supposedly they're like, yeah, it was like, it's like alien hybrid. I don't know. It's comes from the Emerald tablets, which has been deciphered. So I don't know. Y'all look it up. Yeah. It's something like that. Yeah. Okay. So there are people who are still on earth who are descended from them though. Like there are people who are walking around today who are hybrid aliens. That's what he was. I believe that's what he was saying as well. I have to go back. There's a lot of information. So y'all aren't scared of dying. No, no, but at the same time. It's like a yes and a no, because although they've shown me countless times, what happens, you know, they're like, look, when you pass away, your soul's going to leave your body. You continue leaving. But at the same time, it's like, but I'm going to die. It's like the reality of, I almost died. I wasn't scared. I was just like, you know, whatever. I had a fibroid. I didn't know. So I was like bleeding out. So I was basically dying. I'm like, my heart was like beating super slow. Yada, yada, yada. So I say, you know what, God, I'm going to die. Make it quick. So I'm not joking at that moment. I saw a white light come from the ceiling, go down, hit my vagina. And it's, I'm not joking. It was like pop like that. And then I stopped bleeding. It was powerful and peaceful at the same time. And it's not, I stopped bleeding and then I was able to just go on about my day. It was a weird, was your pain prior to that? Like, do you feel good after that? Like you didn't feel, I had no pain, the bleeding and I bled for 26 days at a fibroid. Yeah. Jesus. Yeah. But I was okay with dying. Cause I was tired and I was like, you know, I'm done with it. Yeah. I told y'all let's wrap it up. Yeah. And I, and I woke up and I thought I was going to die in my sleep. I woke up and I was like, Oh, I wasn't scared to die. Yeah. We've all had freaky experiences with spirit. I've heard, you can leave us or you don't, we have stories like that. You can leave us or you don't call it a day. I had a candle in my room for Archangel Michael. This woman's like, Oh, just do that. You know, no resistance. She's like, Oh, just make this little prayer and say it. Archangel Michael. I went to like little Mexican store. I got Archangel Michael, Michael candle, lit it, read the prayer out loud. It asked my question. I woke up at 2, 2, 2 a.m. in the morning. It was lightning. Um, candle flashed in my room. Boom, boom, boom. He goes, you made the right decision. Cause I was asking a question and it was boom, boom, boom. I was like, Holy smokes. But I wasn't scared though. But his voice was like lightning. Yeah. His wasn't scared. I wasn't scared. No. Yeah. But the candle was flickering boom, boom, all over my room. I was like, Holy. But I wasn't scared though. And I was like, I was like, I said, thank you. And I went back to sleep. So let me ask you, I want to tap into the, uh, a little bit of like the religion talk. So you guys have your background, but you should Catholic, right? Christian. Yeah. So when it comes to knowing what y'all know and with your gifts and whatnot, and then the Christian beliefs, how much of that, like how much is what's written with Christian belief is right. And not right. And like, what was like, cause there's what's manmade and what is created with religion to potentially have more control on people. Like it was always church and state, but I always, I always thought, you know, well, your beliefs are one thing. Your spirituality is one thing, but when it comes to religion, there's, you know, there's been some shady, shady ---- in the history of when it comes to religions in general and conquering and violence and all that stuff. Is there a, uh, an overlap of what is kind of for control and what is actually the truth as to what happens spiritually? You know what I mean? Do you have, do you have any like, you know, little, uh, questions towards religion? Like, yeah, I don't know. That seems a little, uh, um, what's the fascist, if you will, like this is written just to control people. But in regards to the afterlife, there's, you know, there's, when it comes to, I'm not knocking any religious beliefs. I was raised Catholic. I was, I went, you know, confirmation and all that stuff. But in regards to the idea behind a religion, like that was, you know, religion, I feel like was man orchestrated, but when it comes to the spirituality and the beliefs of a God or that's why I believe in that, but sometimes I think those are separate, but also the same at the same time. Yeah. Okay. So do you have any, do you have any, do you have any thoughts when it comes to religion that it was, you know, written for different reasons as opposed to, you know, happy-go-lucky God afterlife. There's some control. It's like 50, 50 to me. There's the control part. Then there's like the interpretation of like what they meant for like people to be like liberated. Yeah. I think it's 50, 50. And just believe what you want to take what you want from it. Everybody has their own interpretation of the Bible. That's true. I think it's very positive and there's stuff, stuff in there. You're like, you're like, come on now. You're like, you know, somebody wrote that based on their opinion. And that's where I think that's where it comes to this. I think the open-mindedness and just whatever that goes back to like the intuition in general, like what feels good to you and try and trust that. Yeah. Cause sometimes like when the Jehovah's Witness come to the door, like they'll read a passage and they'll be like, Oh, that means this. And I'm just like, how did you get that from that? I would have never put two and two together, but they believe that's what it means based on their perception or their interpretation. So that's why I just, you know, like, I'm just like, you know, whatever. That's cool. I respect that though. Hey, whatever. I mean, as long as you ain't messing anyone else up, it's like swipe left. If you don't like it, I guess, how does it work? I know you said y'all can turn it on and turn it off. Like, how does that work? Like being in the presence of someone like, I'm not trying to fish for you to do something with me right now, but is there, is it just turned off right now? Or is there sometimes ever noise that creeps through like, Oh, someone's over my shoulder. It's me. It's like, for me, it's like a light switch. It's like, do I want to tap in? A lot of the times I just have to put a protective bubble over myself. Like when I was walking down the street earlier, I was like, this is a rough, rough neighborhood. I was like, just come on in, you know, spirit guys, angels. And I wasn't tapping into people, but I knew to kind of keep that barrier. So how does that work? When you literally hit a switch, you just in your head to say, okay, uh, David, I'm talking to you right now. Is anyone, what is that? What do you mean a switch? Literally? Like I'm thinking I'm going to stand up right now. If I intentionally want to do a reading for you, I'm going to turn it on, but if I'm just walking, you know, out and I see, I'm not going to be like, Oh, yes. An intention. Like I'm going to walk down the street. I know what's going on in the area. You know, come in, protect me. Interesting. Exactly. It's like, she's an empath. I'm not an empath. So I don't feel people, which is good. Cause I don't, I don't want to feel people. Is that something you can turn off and on? I can. Yeah. No, I have it turned off. You have to turn it off. I kind of want you to turn on somebody if I'm giving off good energy. It's all I want. That's all I want to know. You don't even have to say you are. So I appreciate that. Uh, just, just a little story time. Is there any, is there anything in regards to connecting to the other side? Any stories that stand out? Cause I know he asked about some things that were either first time you had an experience, everybody asked us a little bit, but is there any stuff in regards to working with a client or someone in particular about connecting to the other side that was so, um, helpful to them or was so obvious to them? Is there a story that we can, you know, clip up? That's like, this is a great story. This, this really was obvious. Yeah. I did a reading for a woman a couple months ago when her boyfriend partner had died the night before. So she's like, I just want some messages. And, um, he came in and he said, I want to be on your altar. You know, alters like, yeah, I want to be on your altar. He's like, put my picture there. And he kept going like this sprinkled peanuts. And I was like, he said he wants peanuts. And she was like, oh my gosh, he was eating peanuts in a video. I watched him a week before he died. That was his favorite thing to eat. And he accepted, he wanted us to be a part of the altar. I think he didn't believe in alters and the spiritual world, but he said, I want to be on it. Interesting. When you say something like peanuts, it's kind of, this is the specificity of that. Yeah. He was like peanuts. I was like, he said he wants peanuts. I can't do that. She was like, oh my gosh, he loved that. I was watching a video of him before he died and he was eating the peanuts. Have y'all experienced loss in your life? Yeah. Is there, is what is the grief process for you three when you have these experiences? And cause I was essentially human experience about experiencing grief, which is so painful and real. And a lot of people, you know, have, um, it's an obstacle to get through. Do you guys have a grief experience? Do you still feel that human pain or you guys is so tapped into what happens next? Like I didn't lose them. Just, we're just not physically with you right now. Uh, I felt, I felt sad. Like our grandma recently passed away, but I, uh, I had like, I smelt her in my room for a whole week. And then I was like, okay, it's good for you to go. And this phone went away. But I always see butterflies all the time when I think about her. Exactly. Interesting. Yeah. And always know it's like, yeah, like you see her too. And you're just like, you know, like, Hey granny, how are you doing? Are you her laugh? Yeah. And then she came to me in a dream and she was very happy. Literally hear the laugh. Yeah. She was laughing at me. I'm just going to look at her body. Cause I was like, oh man, this is the first time I've ever been to like a viewing like that. And she was just laughing at me. And I was like, okay. So you still feel the weight, but it's like the weight or you don't feel the weight of it as much. Cause you're so tapped in. Exactly. I was sad, but then I knew that she was at peace because she was not well before she passed away. So it's like, she's free of her pain. And when she came to me in a dream, she was super happy. And she was just super happy. So I got closure for that. And she still comes around. Like I said, every now and then. So what do you think the comfort, the comforting thing of what you're saying for someone that the people that are going through grief and is that someone? Oh, it's my wife. So what is, what is like the comforting thought for people that don't have this ability to tap in and don't really can't see it. Can't truly understand it outside of their believing that they're still with us or they're still existing and out of the plane. Like, what is the comforting thing? You can tell someone that maybe is. And obviously it's different for everyone's. You can't give them pinpoint advice, but what is the ultimate message with what is happening on the other side that can help people, you know, feel a little bit more ease about when they lose someone. Like even they can't, I'm just, I'm not going to be with this person physically, which sucks. That sucks. Yeah. Like what is getting through that? What is the belief to get through that process in your opinion? There's no wrong. Oh, wrong or right answers. Just know that they're at peace and they're like in no more pain anymore. That's what I always tell people. And then I, you know, I tell people, some people actually need to go to grief counseling, but sometimes I'll channel those people actually go see a medium, like the medium will, you know, contact them and they'll give them some things. And they're like, they'll get closure from a medium. Interesting. Yeah. And that's just, is there any times that you can't successfully give someone a reading just for whatever reason? Like what are those moments when you try to pull someone through and it's just not as potent? It hasn't happened. Yeah. Cause we always just turn the light switch on. It's just boom. And tap in. Like, so there's no moments. Like for instance, if we were tapping on my dad, he's just like, Hey, he doesn't want to come through right now. Or he might reincarnate it. Like I said. Exactly. So that's, that's true. Can you guys figure out if someone's reincarnated and who they are? You don't have that. That's not part of it. Like in their past life. Like, like if say hypothetically, my dad already reincarnated. He's somewhere here. That's not something you guys can see. Is it? Like who? Oh, yeah, yeah. You can pick up on their frequency and their soul is the same thing. They're just in a different body. So right now you can tap into and figure out someone who reincarnated who they are on this earth today. Oh yeah. Yeah. I'm doing forget. Are. No, our great aunt, she passed. I never met her. And I was telling my mom, I was like, Oh, she's up in there. And she shows me, she's like surrounded by yellow. And she's like, yeah, I'm up here talking to God. And I'm about to reincarnate because life, I want to enjoy life. That's what she said. I want to enjoy life. I'm ready to go. I got things to do. And I'm going back to Mississippi. She showed herself as this little five year old black girl, but she showed me her as a five year old. But she said, I'm going to Mississippi. I'm being a five year old black girl. About, well, you know what I mean? I'm going to be this black girl. But she was showing like how happy she was. And I said, my mom, and she goes, you know, it's crazy. She always felt like she didn't want to miss out on life. She always wanted things to do. She, and I never met her. So it's just like, you can just boom. Oh, they're here. They're there. No shits. Yeah. They'll come back as animals too sometimes. So how did, that'd be, that'd be when dad was a dog. Like, I'll just be a dog. It's just more simple. It's somebody to take care of me. That's how I think. I'm like, I would love to be like a little girl. And I only, I only lived for 10 years. Like I got in and out. And then some animals don't want to be an animal again. They're like, they regret being an animal. Yeah. I had, I have so many dogs telling me like they didn't, or the soul said I shouldn't have been a dog. Cause I didn't like being controlled by a human. So they want to be a human in another lifetime. They can be, they can live longer and be free. So much. How do you, how does it work with stuff? Like friends, like back, you ever see like back to the future? There was one of the back to the futures where he went back and made a bet. Cause he knew this X, the team was going to win four years in a row. Is that something that's kind of like prevented from doing things like that? Like finding the scratch, like literal, literal things that are advantageous, which would be, you know, kind of, I don't want to say messed up, but it's like, have that ability to see the future for certain things. Can you predict certain things like that? Like I said, with a team winning the Superbowl, it's very layman stuff that, okay, that number is going to hit. So I'm going to bet that number. Like, can you do things like that? Uh, I've never done that because I don't think that's important to them on their side. They usually tell you things are important. Oh, right. I just spoke up the channeling too. So it's not like guys, you can't just, it's not exactly. I know what you mean, but I don't do stuff like that. They will respect the boundaries. So say if Candace was my client, she's supposed to win the lottery. But she might not believe in playing a lot. She's like, I'm not for the lottery. And then her deceased grandmother comes through and says, play the lottery. You're gone. I'll win. Play the lottery. It's still her choice. Exactly. Why wouldn't you? Why do y'all think you'll have this, this gift? Like what, what is the reason? Like, you know, obviously some people you said can maybe tap into it. And there's some people that have the ability to do it. Why you three to help people? Yeah. We help so many people. Like they're like, I'm confused. I don't know what I want to do with my life. We put them on the right path. Like, Oh, this is what you should be doing or what you can do if you want to be happy. And they're like, you know what I want to do as a kid, or I never even thought about that. And they get into it. They're like, Oh my gosh, like this is perfect. So if I were to book a session, does it one-on-one is usually all three of you at the same time. It's one-on-one, but you can, you can do it all three of us. We do offer group sessions. That's just individual basis. So you'd have to reach out to us and kind of, is there a fine line between looking into understanding things that are in the future and maybe it's just better off not knowing, you know what I mean? Some people have the belief like, Oh, that's, that's, that's bad work to be looking into the future. We shouldn't be doing that. It's witchery. Is this, that sorcery, whatever. Is there a fine line between maybe we shouldn't know certain things? No, no. I don't think so. It's all, it's when your spirit guides and God or whoever comes forward to talk to you, they deliver a message to help you. It's for a reason. Like they'll tell one girl, they were just like, they told me, they were like, whoever you're with, they're like, do not have a baby with them. They're like, he's going to leave you. She contacted. That's some good information. Two years later, like, you know what? He left the week I've had the baby. She goes, you were right. Yeah. So she could have shifted her life if she just will listen, not have the baby with him. What do I have to answer this question? But again, a hypothetical, if I were to, if I'm on this journey with this podcast, this is my, this is my baby. And I asked the question, okay, is this, is it going to be X, Y, Z? Like, I wonder if that's something I guess, should I know that? Cause hypothetically, what if you see something that's like, it's, you know, this, this isn't your path, but I want it to be. So it's like, do I just, would I just give it up now? Are you saying it's really good? Okay. So keep going. It's like that, that's a fine line where it's, would I ask a question? Like, is my podcast going to get to where I believe and I, where I see it. And you all send me no. And I was like, oh, well, I might as well. What do I think? I think I would go back to my choice. I would keep going anyway, I guess. But it's like with that weird thought in my head, it's like, but yet these girls told me that it's not going to be that way. People go, oh, um, if it's not going to work, you're like, well, what could I do to make it work? There's always a choice. That's right. So I, so it's like right now in this moment, maybe that was part of like me asking that question. Y'all tell me that it's like, okay, as of now, based on the best, so maybe I got to switch something so that where it comes out, where there is a little, there is still the free will, even though you may, so it's possible that you see something as it is right now, but based on my changes that whatever you predicted could change sometimes, sometimes not though, like sometimes like they're like, oh, I'm doing this job. Am I ever going to get ahead in this company? And I'm like, no, you can keep, you can stay in the company you want to, but like, you're not, you're supposed to be in a different career. Exactly. And then does it go back to what they believe? They're like, oh, I believe in it. Cause they tell me that some people may just be so optimistic and driven. Like, no, I'm not going to, I'm going to get through it anyway. And their belief is so strong that can override that. Uh, no, I've had spirit. Tell me you're wasting your time with clients straight up. Be like, you're wasting your time at this company. They're not going to promote you. You're not going to do this, this, this go do this career. You'll be happy. Exactly. And I'll be like, oh, okay. And this is up to, they can do whatever they want to do. Spirit will tell us they're not going to listen to you. Jasmine, you tell them you're not going to listen to me and you're going to keep being, you know, bullheaded, you know, and it's going to fail or it's gonna work or whatnot. You know, cause spirit, they, they're all knowing, they know all this stuff. So they'll just say, they're like, I'm sorry, it's not going to work, but you're not going to listen and you're going to keep trying, but it's okay. Exactly. Sometimes that stubbornness reveals the greatest lesson of all, you know, you, you end up being like, you know what, this job ain't ----. You find out, you know what I mean? So there's nothing, we're not here to guide you. We're not here to tell you what to do. Yeah. Like we're here to guide you at the end of the day, there's always a lesson behind something regardless. So it's like, yeah, it's all good. Um, I forgot how to say bye. It was the first time I had to do the F word. It takes me a lot shorter to say that I'm getting better at not cursing. So thank you from Jersey, from the East coast. It's part of our, what do you like it or not? It usually comes with a lesson. I suppose, as you say, is it, what else, is there anything else you want to say before we get out of here? Cause I appreciate these conversations. So fun. I feel like we may be able to do something again, because there's different angles I think we could take with this. But is there anything else you all want to say before we get out of it? I appreciate it. Obviously I'm going to plug contact information, the show notes, everyone that wants to finance returning the oracles. And if there's anything else you want to say as an outro, the mics are yours. If you want your life, find things, make you happy. You're on positive people and enjoy your life. Life's short. Exactly. Always trust your intuition, no matter what, like other people can be telling you different things. Don't do this. Don't do that. But if your gut is telling you something, follow that intuition, like stick to it. How do you know, like, how do you decipher what is your intuition and not just, you know, word vomit? Like, how do you, how do you know it's your intuition and not your brain saying something else? It's usually a gut feeling. Just trust the feeling. As soon as you'll get like something in your head, like I'll be driving and they'll be like, Oh, instead of taking the freeway, take the back way. And then I will listen. I'll take the freeway. And there's a bumper to go for traffic. Exactly. Happens all the time. Yeah. So that's like, yeah, it's just, they're telling you, but you're not listening. Exactly. This is going to be ridiculous. I know I'm saying this on the podcast. But I had a dream the other day I was at home in Jersey. I actually physically was home in Jersey and I had a dream about this jelly that was underground. I was like scavenging for, just bear with me. I was scavenging for jelly underneath the ground and I was, I found this property. I was like, Oh my God, this, all this delicious jelly underneath on the earth. And I was, that was the main focus of the dream. Then I woke up in that morning and the first thing my mom says to me is, I think I'm going to make some jelly doughnuts. Am I psychic for the wrong reasons? I remember the last time I had a dream about jelly and I asked my mom later and I was like, when was the last time you made jelly doughnuts? Like a couple of years ago. I'm like, why did I just dream about jelly? Like, is that a song? Hey David figured out it was just, you just, that's just weird. That means literally nothing. I don't have what y'all have, but I had a dream about jelly and now my mom's making jelly doughnuts. I have weird dreams too, they mean absolutely nothing. I just have wild dreams. So yeah. Yeah. And some of those things like, I was just jelly, David, relax. It was a stupid dream and your mom made jelly doughnuts. Anyway, that was my psychic story. But again, I appreciate y'all taking the drive up here from San Diego. We came all the way downtown to thank you Spotify for hosting us. And I appreciate you girls taking the time to talk to me. It's fun. I would love to do something again and we will explore different angles and have some fun with it. Even though we just had fun, have fun, as you said. And again, if there's real quick, before we get out of here, how do they find you, even though I'll put links in the bottom, just feel free to plug yourselves. Yeah. You can go to our website, trinityoracles.com to be able to book your reading, but we also have a celebrity predictions blog, so we do YouTube predictions, like celebrity predictions, but we also have a blog where we have, and we have Patreon, we have Patreon, we have like all that Anunnaki stuff, uh, we had conversations with Jesus, Martin Luther King, all sorts of things, our Patreons. Conversations with, we're not done yet. Conversations, conversations with Jesus. Yeah, the devil, the devil was wild. Yeah. The devil was wild. I gotta save the room after that. I was like, I got to get out of this house. We felt that when we were like, oh, And Jesus's presence was very strong too. Like I felt like, obviously he had a ruler and he just was like, Hey, do this. This, this is what I want to say. Jesus had a ruler? Jesus had a ruler or literally a 12 inch ruler. Like a 12 inch ruler. Like somebody, he was a carpenter, I guess. Just somebody telling the truth. It's not what people think. Yeah. Like they think Jesus is like, ah, no, Jesus is very straightforward. He's a Capricorn. Jesus is extremely straight forward. How do you know it was Jesus? No, you didn't tell you, he reveals himself. We do readings. Jesus will come forward and be like, tell that person to go do this. The energy is wild. When you feel the energy of Jesus, it's different than guardian angels. It's phenomenal, very masculine, very strong. You're like, yeah, what's Jesus doing right now? Teaching, working, raising consciousness, working. Yeah. Big time. I can't wait to get on there. Our Patreon is crazy. If you want to get into the really in-depth, go to our Patreons. Yeah. All right. Well, I'm going to, maybe we'll have a sub conversation after this. So we can, we're going to keep it rolling. But in the meantime, I appreciate y'all for listening to another episode of Dead Talks, the Trinity Oracles. And, uh, as they mentioned, they gave you the plugins. Go find them in the show notes. And I thank you ladies for being here. Thank you so much for tuning into another episode of Dead Talks. Please do not forget to hit the subscribe button and also the notification bell. That'll give you updates as to when we post a new video, more episodes and more content in general. We are streaming in all the major podcast platforms, including Apple, Spotify, iHeartRadio, Pandora, and all that. And also find us on Instagram at Dead Talks Podcast or www.deadtalks.net. Thank you so much.